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black widow & hawkeye #2
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I've seen some people say Kate used to be the same age (16) as the other Young Avengers (except for Cassie, who was 14/15) in V1 before she got aged up in Hawkeye and Young Avengers V2 to 20/21 years old. Do you know if it's true?
yes, although it seems the other young avengers (except for cassie bc she was dead for a while) have been aged up to be in the same age range now. in young avengers v1 kate's 16, in young avengers v2 #11 she mentions it's almost her 21st birthday. v1 was 2005 and v2 2013, so that's 8 years real-time, which is generally about ~2 years in comic time going off the sliding timescale. so yeah, one would've expected her to be around 18 in v2, but oh well. it's now been nearly 20 years since v1 (which is an evil thought), so we're all caught up; although i think kate has been aging up keeping with the sliding timescale from here we left off in 2013, so probably being written as 23ish or so?
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Real reasson about Clint and Bobbi's divorce? I tough because Bobbi cheated on him, but not sure
absolutely not! i think that misunderstanding is likely from the end of the mockingbird solo in 2016, which decided to go ahead and try to retcon a very key event. let's get into it...
in west coast avengers, the whole team time travels to the old west. their time machine is broken and can only travel backwards. while trying to time travel back further, the phantom rider punches bobbi and takes her off the machine, separating her from the team (in space and time)
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phantom rider takes bobbi to his cave and concocts a drug to convince her she's his wife
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eventually, the two-gun kid (cowboy friend of hawkeye) tracks them down and is able to snap bobbi out of her drugged stupor. she realizes the extent of coercion that's occurred. clint is trapped in ancient egypt (and also dying), so he's not around for what comes next; during a showdown with bobbi, phantom rider falls off a ledge.
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because fuck this guy, bobbi makes her choice: that is, choose to do nothing.
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phantom rider's spirit actually just gets reincarnated when he dies, which bobbi admittedly didn't know about at the time, but fuck that guy.
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when clint and bobbi are finally reunited, she doesn't divulge the sexual assault that occurred. several issues later, phantom rider's spirit in the present tells clint bobbi killed him and doesn't say why (bc fuck that guy). in what is notoriously the most dickish response (and writing) possible, clint goes "that's not what he said!!!!!!!" when bobbi tries to tell clint why she let phantom rider drop (bc, again, fuck that guy). and so, a rift is born.
clint's whole motto is "avengers don't kill," so his contentions are: you killed someone, you lied by omission, you betrayed my trust by not telling me. bobbi's are: that doesn't count as killing, that guy was a rapist, you are being a shitty husband. also fuck that guy.
the ensuing issues are a bunch of "pick a side" bullshit with the team and squabbling. which was ridiculous. clint's stance was so ridiculous that while all their acid and strife in west coast avengers continued, clint and bobbi would constantly be trying to reconcile and acting tenderly toward each other in concurrent issues of solo avengers. bc other writers thought "yeah fuck that guy."
so that's why they broke up. but also they didn't bc they got back together? but also they didn't get back together bc that was a skrull. but that wasn't supposed to be a skrull at the time and was only one retroactively. but then they got back together anyway. i digress.
ANYWAYS this brings us to mockingbird #8 (2016), which attempts to retcon all that in a way i can only describe as insulting. first of all, phantom rider's described as an ex of bobbi's, which is a terrible start.
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then this happens:
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yeah. whether the writer was trying to retcon the reasoning behind the divorce, bobbi having been sexually assaulted, or whatever aspect of the entire storyline, what instead comes across is that the writer decided "woman who survived sexual assault and asserted her agency in letting perpetrator die" should be "so like, bobbi cheated on clint, bc she makes her own decisions!" while we have panels of a man drugging her. ???? the only way you could potentially reconcile this is bobbi is lying to phantom rider to get him to fuck off (bc fuck that guy), but as i mentioned, she also calls him her "ex" in her internal monologue earlier in this very same issue, so that definitely didn't seem to be the writer's intention. sooo. we should all collectively ignore this retcon attempt.
there's also the added complication of whether their divorce was finalized during west coast avengers what with bobbi being presumed dead but then not dead, and then clint actually dying and then undying and then dying and then undying again, bobbi confirming they were divorced in new avengers reunion, but then hawkeye v4 later having clint sign divorce papers...but that's not the crux of the issue at hand. leave that for a wills and trusts probate hypo.
SO in summary: not really. if you found this obnoxiously long, enjoy this even longer text post i once made summarizing their relationship, kind of!
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bobbimorses · 9 days
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BLACK WIDOW & HAWKEYE #2 Preview | April 17
When tensions between Black Widow’s symbiote and Hawkeye put Clint’s life in danger, Natasha will have to decide where her loyalties lie — and what she’s willing to do to prove it. Meanwhile, Clint’s enemies are moving in fast, and their uniforms seem awfully familiar…
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bobbimorses · 14 days
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black widow & hawkeye #1
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bobbimorses · 15 days
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black widow & hawkeye #1
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bobbimorses · 15 days
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2 weeks ago, on clint watch:
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indirect clint mention in miles morales: spider-man v2 #18
this concludes the latest clint watch.
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bobbimorses · 17 days
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60years
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bobbimorses · 18 days
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Clint Barton - RPG character profile
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bobbimorses · 20 days
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Bobbi Morse - RPG character profile
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bobbimorses · 21 days
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Trying out some stuff and of course he's my victim
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bobbimorses · 22 days
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HAWKEYE - "Hawkeye family"
Art by Vlad Zdor
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bobbimorses · 22 days
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i'm keeping the boop badges btw.
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bobbimorses · 23 days
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if you had to describe clint in one word what would you use? i was thinking of forgiving or maybe impulsive (but not in a bad way), but i'm not sure. what do you think?
sangfroid
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bobbimorses · 23 days
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clint barton loves teaching his skills to his friends
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bobbimorses · 23 days
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Clint’s two skills. Bows and football tackles
he can also juggle!
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