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I always forget how confusing it was about who Robert Arryn was meant to foster with. Stannis or Tywin.
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The Crone is like supposed to be the wisest out of everyone, right? And Alicent being the Crone is basically just saying “Yeah, she’s the most smart one out of all these idiots (Rhaenor, Laena, Hannah, Harwin) surrounding her,”
It’s not that she is the wisest. She is the one lighting the way (the Hightowers) and the one in which advice is given (her children turn to her more than they do Rhaenor). She is also the one to have let the First Raven into the world when she peered into the door of death (the imagery connected to Helaena and Aemond).
The imagery of the Crone best fits Alicent.
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I AM SORRY FOR THE PERSON I WILL BECOME WHEN THIS SEASON COMES OUT
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Richard of York was demonized by the Tudors into being an insane deranged hunchback. There has been a lot of interest into taking a closer look at him. Unfortunately this has led to people trying to make excuses for him and try and make him look better than he really was. The man almost certainly murdered his two young nephews. He might not have been the cackling villain from Shakespeare but he was still a horrible person.
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Double checked and Mary freaking died a year before EoY’s father died.
Still don’t get why Jasper was blamed for Mary of Burgundy’s death in The White Princess. Like, pretty sure the Tudor envoy was not there historically. It just felt really stupid and made Margaret of York seem psychotic in her grief.
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Still don’t get why Jasper was blamed for Mary of Burgundy’s death in The White Princess. Like, pretty sure the Tudor envoy was not there historically. It just felt really stupid and made Margaret of York seem psychotic in her grief.
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Love how Henry is demonized for putting Teddy in the Tower but zip is said about Richard throwing the boys in the tower because of their threat to his claim to the throne.
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Cecily of York is the only one who actually seems to understand what is going on and how to navigate the court in her favor.
Like, probably would have been for the best if Henry had married Cecily in The White Princess.
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The craziest thing in The White Princess is that Duchess Cecily suddenly cares about her grandchildren by Elizabeth Woodville as though she were not gleeful at the thought of them becoming illegitimate in The White Queen.
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Wildfire and Blood Chapter 36
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Tempest Grove Chapter 109
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I am SCREAMING!
I forgot Catelyn wanted to give some sort of burial for the men who fell on the way to the Eyrie but was convinced not to and then Catelyn isn’t given any proper funeral rights either, neither is Robb. 😭😭😭
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fromtheboundlesssea · 10 days
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Family, Duty, Honor Chapter 254
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fromtheboundlesssea · 14 days
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Listening to AGOT and another thought—more like a grievance.
I hate that Ned didn’t send Arya back to Winterfell after the Trident incident. She was not necessary for his cover and it was likely that a bigger issue could have arisen later (although it didn’t).
I also hate that the first person to use Sansa as a pawn for their own personal gain was her own father.
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fromtheboundlesssea · 16 days
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Listening to A Game of Thrones again. I only just finished Jon I and I just had a thought that I have no wish to expand upon at this moments, but maybe I will later or someone else could if they wish.
Starks and Targaryens
Lyanna / Ned / Catelyn -> Aemma / Viserys / Alicent
Lyanna and Aemma die giving birth to a child wanted by the father only for their only living child to be the gender the father of the child did not want. Both women haunt the story even though they are relegated to very brief mentions in their “historical” records. Both die due to a Targaryen man’s irrational belief in prophecy.
Ned and Viserys attempts to keep the peace between the two halves of their family, however, their first “child” causes tensions with his wife and other children and there is a divide between them. Both treat their first children above the typically accepted position their birth would have entitled them to.
Catelyn and Alicent are married to men and constantly feel compared to a woman who is dead or gone and feels threatened by the protective nature of their husband towards their first child. Both have a child who is disabled, only for their husbands to not care. No one was punished, even lightly, for the blinding of Aemond, and Viserys brushed the incident away. Ned left Catelyn alone with Bran, who could have very well died while he was away and chose his duty to Jon Arryn, someone dead, above his son. Both women die with vengeance for their dead children on their lips.
Jon / Robb -> Rhaenyra / Aegon II
Jon and Rhaenyra are their father’s eldest child and is raised above the station many children in their positions are given (Jon as a bastard and Rhaenyra as a girl). Their position within the family puts their stepmothers on edge and their positions also serve as a vague threat to their half-siblings. They both leave their homes and “set up court” elsewhere, Jon at Castle Black and Rhaenyra in Dragonstone, and stay away from the main fight of the series. Both were born the opposite gender their fathers wanted.
Robb and Aegon II both picked up their crowns after the urging of familial figures that discussed the danger their siblings are threatened with. Both lost control of their anger once their siblings began dying. Neither man seemed insistent on a crown and do not think of their other sibling as a danger to themselves despite the warnings of their mother. Both are betrayed by allies.
Benjen -> Daemon
These are more foils. Benjen is everything that Daemon is not and vice versa. Benjen sends himself into exile and remains there and serves the King and his brother with honor. He also tries to look out for his nephew and help raise him to be a proper man for the time he is with him. Daemon is constantly exiled for his actions but always comes back and leads his niece astray.
Jon / Sansa -> Aegon III / Jaehaera
Both Jon and Aegon III are made heir by the will of the previous king so that a woman won’t be given the throne (albeit for different reasons). Both have a complicated relationship with symbol of their house. They are traumatized by the death of a woman who had great influence over them (Ygritte and Rhaenyra). Both were never meant to be put in royal positions of authority, Jon being both a bastard and a second son, and Aegon with three older brothers and the son of the losing side.
Sansa and Jaehaera are both girls deeply traumatized by witnessing the death of beloved male relatives who are wrongly beheaded right in front of them. The two girls serve as keys to their houses and inheritance and are used for that inheritance despite being willed away from such an inheritance. While incited to violence, both are reluctant to such murder and do not enact it. They serve as a representative to sides of a war that are not well liked in the current ruling dynasty.
Ironically, if Jonsa were to happen it would be a true reconciliation of two sides of the similar conflicts that originated with the questions of inheritance.
Lannisters and Strongs
Tywin -> Lyonel
Both men are considered to be great politicians. However, their children undermined their political influence and reveal that both men are not actually as great as they are initially believed to be. Tywin does not think about the long term. Lyonel allows his son to put them all in danger by even allowing such rumors to swirl. If Lyonel were smart, he would have nipped those rumors in the bud not only to protect his son, but to not add shaky foundations for Rhaenyra’s reputation.
Jaime / Cersei -> Harwin / Rhaenyra
Both men have affairs with royal women and sire children that look like them. Both men have three bastards destined to die due to the greed of the women they love who can and will never acknowledge them as the fathers of their children.
Cersei and Rhaenyra do not wish to have children with their husbands, for different reasons, and often put their own sexual pleasure above their positions at court and their own allies. Both women are threatened by younger women who could usurp their place and often belittle them for the sake of their own vanity. Both greatly fear their younger brothers and what hand they might take in their deaths.
Tyrion / Larys
Both men are the “lesser” sons of their fathers and are disfigured—earning nicknames for said disfigurement. Both men are very resentful towards their siblings and either enact or wish for the destruction of their houses.
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Are you update not king at all this week
I might update on Monday. So sorry. It’s Easter weekend and then I’ve been sick. 😭
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fromtheboundlesssea · 20 days
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Updated link for an updated chapter!
Neither Gods Nor Men Chapter 73
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