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ariespsyche · 1 year
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fob4ever · 3 months
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patrick stump & neal avron on tape notes podcast (12.15.23)
songwriting stuff, demos, lyric process, a bunch of things! they talk about the songs lftos, heaven iowa and smfsd.
long summary under the cut!
talked about how they sat outside “emo” because they leaned more towards hiphop/rnb, but also how they didn’t fit in the “pop” genre too and how they would be put on pop shows and “comparatively it was like slayer was playing” lmao “but we’re still a pop band!”
they experimented with reggae and 90s shoegaze and hardcore during the pandemic
they recorded most of stardust together in neal’s house :D at the beginning it was mostly just neal and patrick working together, at the end of the day everybody would come in to listen
patrick said he got “kinda obsessed” with streamlining pete’s lyrics in the chorus over the past few albums: “pete is very wordy. he has all these ideas that take up a lot of space.” and that their manager sat him down at lunch and said “don't do that. you guys used to ramble. why don't you ramble?” and lftos was the first song patrick put together after that convo
lftos writing process: patrick followed what he was feeling, and most of what he did in that song were things that years spent working in pop music had scared him off on doing.
the “every lover's got a little dagger in their hand” lyric tied it all together for patrick: “[i was] singing that line and EAGERLY emailing neal: listen to this!”
they play a little of the lftos demo (16:55). it's wild. VERY guitar-forward
“neal and i lost most of the demos for [folie a deux].” the burning of the library of alexandria. to me
talks about how the folie demos were infinitely stranger than the final versions, “psychedelic at times”
for stardust, they didn't really keep much of the demo stuff- patrick: “and my demos are pretty decent!”
lftos piano demo (21:35)
patrick: i want some drama. when i look back at our records, our best ones start off with a sense of melodrama
they play individual parts of the lftos instrumentation (31:25), andy's drums, pete's bass, joe's guitar. <3
bridges are patrick's favorite thing to write, because he just gets to play
patrick: "pete doesn't even send lyrics in lyric-form, he just sends words. and it's interesting when you see it- it's almost like one-liner after one-liner. and i'll just get an email of those, and then you kinda have to figure out what thematically goes together, what feels like the same song. but then i also try to keep lyrics together as much as possible, because i feel he's in a place where it does feel like one thought."
"when i read it, there's almost a passive thing where i just imagine what it sounds like to me. and [the lyrics for heaven, iowa] scared me a lot, because it felt kind of sparse, and i don't really like sparse- i don't really like singing by myself. [...] i don't like being so front and center, and i could tell that there was something really intimate about this song, and it was a big challenge for me."
everybody immediately went for the heaven, iowa demo- it's from the first stardust session and it took the longest to complete because patrick wasn't satisfied with just his voice over keys- "it was too naked."
patrick doesn't ask pete about lyrics because: "first off, he will not explain things. but second off, i think there is something to that. where i'll read his lyrics, and i'll interpret it one way, and years later i'll realize it's another way. there's so many double entendres that i've only gotten decades later, i'll be singing and go, 'OH it's a sex thing.'"
patrick really attaches to the story of a lyric, the craft of it, and then years later he'll be like "oh that was a HEAVY lyric. [and] pete must have felt that thing! i don't really question it when i'm writing- it's kindof unfair on him, like, should i check on him?"
heaven iowa instrumental demo/instruments isolated (53:30)
patrick would tell joe to "go nuts" on heaven, iowa!
neal talks about the ambient guitar pedal joe plays during heaven iowa and how it worked really well. patrick says this was the kind of thing that saved (the song).
patrick and andy double drummed at the same time in the studio for heaven iowa! <3
pete told joe to go "full slash" at the end of heaven iowa : )
patrick almost didn't send out the demo for the title track, smfsd! he was almost sure no one was going to like it, even though he liked it. but he sent it out, and it "kept surviving"
both patrick and neal brushed smfsd off because they assumed they "couldn't do that", but pete really pushed for it, which surprised patrick.
so much for stardust demo (1:25:07) patrick plays drums on it, sloppily. which he freely admits to lol. it is quite sloppy indeed
patrick: "i'm a drummer too, but andy and i are very different drummers. and it's very cool translating our things between each other, because he comes from metal (...) and i'm more a funk drummer."
lotsa joe layering in heaven iowa and smfsd : )
it was patrick's idea to do a lyrical callback in lftos/smfsd, and pete was hesitant about it. but patrick pushed for it, becasuse it made sense as "story beats"- "it's like 'empire strikes back'!"
patrick doesn't like to putz around the studio that much, he just wants to be recording something.
patrick: "my routine [during the writing of the album] was just to make it to the studio as on time as i can be- i have adhd, it's very difficult- but i'd be there within 10-15 minutes of when i was supposed to be there, and then we'd just work through it."
patrick's advice: FROM ELTON JOHN: when you find your producer that understands you, stick with them. patrick: "and that was on a record we didn't do with neal, and i remember thinking [makes unsure noises]..." also prioritize in the short-term, what's important. take a step back.
neal's advice: if music is your passion, do it, and do it all the time
patrick was afraid people wouldn't like him "rambling" in songs, even though it was honest and natural to him. he was terrified of doing it again, thinking people wouldn't like it. but people did! "don't subvert yourself too much."
the host asks for them to choose a stardust song to close out the podcast, and patrick chooses what a time to be alive :)
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abyssalreid · 18 days
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Wholesome Pure vanilla cookie being such a wholesome bean gives me life.
So does him being tormented by Shadow milk cookie.
I am So torn. By this. That it hurts my soul.
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abyssalmermaiden · 5 months
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I've been singing that song again Another ballad that won't make amends It's been giving me nightmares again
And they don't end
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gohjuo · 4 months
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MAINS CALL
here's the tea ! if you like this post it means that you are interested in being mains. just know that there are preferences that i would like for being a main: us having talked ooc wise once or twice. i just feel like it makes it much easier for me to consider us being mains. it would also be really nice for us to have had our muses interacted in some capacity. so here's the perks of being mains:
my discord ( If you don't have it already)
random starters or asks
randomly tagged in images, musings, etc. that remind me of our muses
a tag specifically for your character
my undying love
please note that i will only accept three of the same muses as a main. also please note if i want to consider us affiliates we would have had to plot heavily between our muses with dynamics and their relationship ( please know i do not practice exclusivity with affiliates).
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swamp-hag-uwu · 6 months
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Vincent and Quincy from Adamandi for fucked up ship bingo?
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pepperysart · 3 months
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new oc
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Litterally me :3 peppery.
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nanaloopsy · 6 months
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NANA ✧ TWNTY ✧ SHE/HER ✧ PRICE’s WIFE
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Music: Ethel Cain, Flyleaf, Lady Gaga, Rosalia, Ashnikko, Lana Del Rey, Avril Lavigne, Megan Thee Stallion, One Direction, Five Seconds of Summer, Odetari, Alec Benjamin, Mitski, Hatsune Miku, Paramore, Kali Uchis, ppcocaine, lil hero, Kim Petras, COBRAH, and City girls
Movies: Hercules, Twilight, Now You See Me, Harry Potter (and The Half-Blood Prince), Any Batman movie, The Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants, Spiderman: Into the Spiderverse, Spiderman: Across the Spiderverse, A Silent Voice, and Words Bubble Up Like Soda Pop
Television: Grey's Anatomy, Private Practice, Umbrella Academy, Tokyo Revengers, AOT, One piece (anime and live action!), Avatar: The Last Airbender, The Legend of Korra, Derry Girls, Shameless, My Little Pony, The Walking Dead, Naruto, Death Note, Little Witch Academia, My hero Academia, Hellsing, BlueLock, Haikyuu, JJK, CSM, KNY, and FullMetal Alchemist
Kins: Tsukimi Kurashita, Hello Kitty, Kaiman (Dorohedoro), Manjiro Sano, Armin Arlert, Yuji Itadori, Ochako Uraraka, Yumemi Yumemite, Misa Amane, Zagreus (Hades), Soyori, Zenitsu, Soul Evans, Mitsuri Kanroji, Super Sonico, Tohka (Date a Live)
Inspirations: Marin Kitagawa, Yumemi Yumemite, Barbie, Every Bimbo ever, Ice Spice
Status: baby fever victim…..
Orientation: Bisexual (female lean/questioning)
Birthday: October 13th !
Zodiac: Libra ( °٢° )
Occupation: Professional Zeke Yeager Enjoyer
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snakeguy999 · 5 months
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Hello!! Just wanted to say we think your art is lovely, it has so much texture and it's so dynamic! Great job! your OFF game fanart is always so so so good fr! We wish you a good day/night! -🪷
: D thank you, im so happy you like my art! Have a good night/day as well
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gargoyle-doyle · 7 months
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Some of the brooches I’ve made for my dark wizard cloak. It’s mostly stars and gremlin heads but I’ve been experimenting with hearts, crucifixes, moons and Darren Shan related pins
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These are a few of the Darren Shan ones unfinished. I don’t think they’ll all become brooches, I might just blutac some to my wall for decoration:-3
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dhampyir · 6 days
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"A corpse should be well left alone... lest you've come to disturb my rest under the pretenses of an easy hunt."
@rotdame
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litrallytyrus · 9 months
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i don’t know how i feel about community adding random side characters to the main group in order to replace the main 7 in the later seasons but i have to say i am a little bit infatuated with frankie and i kinda need her bad
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