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#4.08 Smash the Mirror Part 1
dinneratgrannys · 11 months
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ONCE UPON A TIME REWATCH: 4.08, SMASH THE MIRROR (PART 1) What matters it that your powers make you special, and I wouldn’t want you any other way.
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henrysglock · 21 days
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[Kazoo Kid voice] Wait A Minute...Who Are You?
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ANOTHER installment of the Cracks and Mirrors series...this time tied (haha) to Brenner's ties. Yeah. Ties. Plural. This is going to be a long one. Where to begin.
#1: The Ties
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If you can make sense of that, more power to you. Here's what you really need to know:
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Meaning these 5 guys are different from each other:
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Wonderful! I hate it here.
Interestingly enough, this guy is the only guy we see the doors to El's stairwell with:
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Now, it finally makes sense why none of these blood patterns match:
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BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT THE SAME GUY/SCENARIO.
All of this, of course, ties back to what I said in September about Ten's changing test room regarding shot choices, prop movements, and color grading fuckery: It's not the same room continuously.
These two, however, seem to be set in variations on the same universe:
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And they both end in an infuriating camera cut to (in Brenner's case) a completely different guy. (smash cut to my post about how if El's experience is lifted from Brenner's memories, then Brenner should have seen One killing Two, like El did)
Anyway, what we can glean from this is that Running Brenner's universe is one of the top row, but not any of the bottom row:
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(i.e. It's at least a variation on a) the taped version of El's first NINA experience and b) Henry's electrocution. It is not, however, any of the other versions of El's NINA entrance, as far as we've been shown...which is consistent with the multiple versions of NINA we seem to be seeing overall.)
Okay. Good? Good. Moving on.
#2: Tying the Ties (to the Rainbow Room)
As I just mentioned, the Brenner in the hallway isn't the Brenner who runs into the Rainbow Room. And as far as I can tell, Rainbow Room Brenner doesn't appear in the hallway shots:
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Rainbow Room Brenner, as far as I can tell, seems to be this Brenner:
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And so, of course, the part you all knew was coming...
#3: Tying the Ties (to the Cracks)
Yeah. We're fucked. We got a bunch of different guys.
If you're just tuning in, I suggest you take a peek at the original Cracks and Mirrors post (the other installments of which can be found in my pinned post)...but for time being I've lifted the most relevant portion:
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Now. These cracks have associated Brenners:
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No Gate and Gate, respectively.
Not only are these two Brenners not the same guy, they're also not any of the guys we saw running around or the guy who burst into the Rainbow Room:
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Adding lines would make this more confusing, so just go ahead and squint at them all. You'll see what I'm on about pretty quickly, since I've circled the important bits.
But...Surprise! We now have seven Brenners! (My apologies for the fucking crunchy as hell "looks like the visual representation of an earrape video" cracks Brenners, it's just that the lighting is shit and I can see fuck all if I leave them as-is)
So. A Tale Of Seven Brenners...or so you THOUGHT. (Because fuck me, that's why.)
#4: More Fucking Ties!!
Of course, none of these Brenners are this weird fucker with blood all over his face:
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Many such cases, because none of them account for this Brenner from earlier in 4.01 who's shown with a) an incorrect tie and b) incorrect hair (shown here with "correct" Brenner) either:
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...Which I talked about here.
YUP. WE HAVE AT LEAST NINE BRENNERS.
Now...I still have questions about this last Brenner ^ being shown as a reflection in his mirror at home, as opposed to Brenner in the massacre who does not reflect in the Rainbow Room mirror (both in 4.01 AND 4.08, respectively):
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But for now...that's beside the point.
Closing Tangential Note:
Isn't it funny how everything electronic is going super haywire...except the camera and the card reader...and the lights in the hallway that doesn't exist on any of the HNL specs we have..........funny how that works:
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You could argue that the camera and card reader are on a generator/backup circuit...I just didn't think powers-usage picked and chose which circuits it affected like that.
And before anyone goes "Oh but James, there is a light flickering in the hallw—" YEAH. THE ONE SINGULAR LIGHT HENRY JUST SMASHED WITH THE BODY OF A GROWN MAN. LOOK BEHIND EL WHEN THE DOUBLE DOORS OPEN. FLASHING LIGHTS? I DON'T THINK SO.
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AS OPPOSED TO WHEN POWERS ARE BEING USED NEARBY, WHEREIN ALL THE LIGHTS FLASH:
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OKAY. OKAY. SO IT'S WEIRD THAT THE LIGHTS IN THE HALL BEHIND THE DOOR WOULDN'T BE FLASHING. THEY SHOULD BE FLASHING. BUT THEY'RE NOT.
It's almost like, by passing through those doors, El has entered the "plot", so to speak. Like when you hit a save checkpoint, or leave a "safe" space in a video game (staring at you, Resident Evil: Biohazard). She wanders through the safe but horrific "context" sequence, then she enters the unskippable "villain lore drop" cutscene, and then she's in the Boss Fight sequence. Babygirl, you are just a cog in the machine!!
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watchingfairytales · 5 years
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4.08 The Snow Queen episode stills
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freifraufischer · 7 years
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Do you have or know where to find a list of Regina centric or at least episodes with a lot of Lana? Also same question, but for Regal Believer. Or do you know of any complilation vid of Regal Believer moments thru the series? When I search Youtube, it's mainly just a montage set to music, but I want to see/hear actual scenes. Thanks!
Key Regina Episodes (RB in italics, * indicates that it’s B or C plot so the Regina material may be a very small percentage of the episode)
1.01 The Pilot
1.02 The Thing You Love the Most
1.05 That Still Small Voice
1.07 The Heart is a Lonely Hunter
1.11 Fruit of the Poisonous Tree
1.13 What Happened to Frederick*
1.16 Heart of Darkness*
1.17 Hat Trick
1.18 The Stable Boy
1.21 An Apple Red as Blood
1.22 A Land Without Magic
2.01 Broken
2.02 We are Both
2.05 The Doctor
2.07 Child of the Moon*
2.08 Into the Deep
2.09 The Queen of Hearts
2.10 The Cricket Game
2.12 In the Name of the Brother*
2.15 The Queen is Dead
2.16 The Miller’s Daughter
2.17 Welcome to Storybrooke
2.20 The Evil Queen
2.21 Second Star to the Right
2.22 Straight On Till Morning
3.01 The Heart of the Truest Believer
3.03 Quite a Common Fairy
3.05 Good Form*
3.09 Save Henry
3.10 New Neverland
3.11 Going Home
3.12 New York City Serenade 
3.13 Witch Hunt
3.14 The Tower* 
3.15 Quiet Minds
3.16 It’s Not Easy Being Green
3.17 The Jolly Roger*
3.18 Bleeding Through
3.19 A Curious Thing
3.20 Kansas
4.01 A Tale of Two Sisters
4.02 White Out* 
4.03 Rocky Road
4.05 Breaking Glass
4.08 Smash the Mirror
4.12 Darkness On the Edge of Town
4.13 Unforgiven*
4.14 Enter the Dragon
4.16 Best Laid Plans
4.18 Sympathy for De Vil 
4.19 Lily
4.20 Mother
4.21 Operation Mongoose Part 1
4.22 Operation Mongoose Part 2
5.01 Dark Swan
5.02 The Price
5.05 Dreamcatcher 
5.12 Souls of the Departed
5.13 Labor of Love*
5.16 Our Decay*
5.19 Sisters
5.21 Last Rites
5.22 Only You
5.23 An Untold Story
6.01 The Savior
6.02 A Bitter Draught
6.03 The Other Shoe*
6.04 A Strange Case
6.06 Dark Waters*
6.07 Heartless
6.08 I’ll Be Your Mirror
6.10 Wish You Were Here
6.11 Tougher Than the Rest
6.14 Page 23
6.18 Where Blue Birds Fly
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watchingfairytales · 5 years
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4.08 The Snow Queen episode stills
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dinneratgrannys · 3 years
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emma swan in every episode
4.08, smash the mirror (part 1)
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dinneratgrannys · 4 years
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Gifset per Episode: 4.08, Smash the Mirror, Part 1 This was a ruse? It was a ruse!
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