#Ben 10 omniverse season eight

[msnihilist]

what do you think about rook's character in ben 10 in general?you know I never really liked that he was this serious and workaholic partner from beginning to nearly the end,in Wikipedia says he's kinda ben's other best friend too but they hardly had a memorable scence for that together maybe except 1 or 2,and also he has scenes where he mocks ben seriously which I didn't like,idk it feels like his character is so unexplored he had more potential to him since he was ben's partner replacing gwevin in OV so just wanted to know your opinion👍🏻

I've already put all of my thoughts about Rook into my fics. Namely, Separately (S2-era Rook, who would disrespect Ben's boundaries purely for his own curiosity and then feels like shit for it), In All The World... (pre-canon Rook, and how/why I think he grew to idolize Ben and become a Plumber), Cross Your Heart (and Hope to Die) (puts Rook through absolute hell to break him down into one of the rawest character studies I've ever done), and Diamonds Are Forever (post-canon fic that explores the kind of person Rook is and how Ben has changed who he wants to grow to be/how Rook defines himself without Ben around).

But I know that's a lot to read, so here are the SparkNotes:

Rook mellows out a lot by season eight. This change is incredibly noticeable if you watch two episodes back-to-back.

Ben and Rook are very close, and this is something else you can see if you watch season one and then season eight to compare.

I think Ben and Rook had plenty of memorable scenes/moments. Their fake fight in season one, Rook being pushy during Showdown and later apologizing for it, "I don't always get him, but he's cool." "The feeling is mutual.", Rook physically holding Ben back from attacking someone (twice, lol), Rook fighting Lord Transyl's mind-control to warn Ben, "I have worked with Ben long enough to know that when he foolishly charged headlong into a trap, I should have foolishly charged after him.", Ben meeting Rook's family, literally all of their interactions in The Vengers, "Ben! I made a wisecrack!", acting like proud parents after Young One's tail fell off, Rook's promotion to Magister (and their successful fist bump!!), "It has been an honor to fight at your side," (Rook using his final words to tell Ben how important their partnership has been to him and that he doesn't regret a thing just does something to me), etc. If you don't think they're as iconic as Ben and Kevin, that's fair, but they do objectively have plenty of relationship-defining moments.

Rook has scenes where he mocks Ben. In early seasons, this is a character flaw. In later seasons, this is a product of the Omniverse writers thinking it's funny when the punchline to a joke is, "Ben's an idiot." If I held it against Rook, I'd have to hold it against literally every character... So I ignore it, lol.

Here are some episodes that I think do a good job of exploring Rook's character.

S2E6: Bros In Space

S2E7: Arrested Development (not a character-heavy episode, I just think Rook is really funny in this one.)

S3E2: Tummy Trouble

S3E8: While You Were Away ("You have become a hero while you were away," just makes me grin like an idiot every time.)

S3E10: The Frogs of War: Part 2

S4E2: The Ultimate Heist (I loved the scene towards the end where Albedo called Rook out on his willful ignorance.)

S4E8: OTTO Motives

S6E1: Catfight (Another one where Rook is really funny.)

S7E2: Rook Tales (Rook's fight with Kundo is iconic as hell to me. "You taught me everything you know. But we are not in your training hall anymore.")

S8E6: The Final Countdown

S8E10: A New Dawn

Rook is not an overly complicated person. He's a solid guy who gets character development and learns to loosen/open up. He's not as nuanced as Kevin. He doesn't have the history with Ben that Gwen does. But Rook is not a bad character by any means, and his bond with Ben feels earned.

But if you still aren't impressed with Rook, you can always rewatch UAF :p

#ben 10 #ben tennyson #rook blonko #my writing #ben 10 discussion #ask #anonymous #Rook isn't as obviously flawed as Kevin is so you have to actually Look and Pay Attention to see his character development #but it is definitely there #S8 Rook and S1 Rook are two totally different people

[caddeter]

“Why do you guys even watch RWBY if you hate it so much!?”

I am a fan of a show called Ben 10.  As controversial an opinion as this is, my favorite installment of the franchise was Alien Force.

One of the things that Alien Force did that I enjoyed was set up a romantic relationship between Ben and a new character named Julie.  I loved their relationship, the episode where they began dating showed off how great their chemistry was and how the two worked perfectly together.

The next installment, Ultimate Alien, gave serious blows to their relationship.  Almost every time their was an episode with the two, that episode was driven by the conflict between them.  And that all started with the episode Duped, which was the first time I ever disliked an episode because of how forced the conflict felt.

The next installment, Omniverse, felt like an insult to anyone who ever liked these two together.  Julie only has one speaking appearance in all eight seasons of Omniverse, and that episode had Ben and Julie break up in a flashback because Ben was playing video games and couldn’t be bothered to pay attention to his girlfriend.  That episode had a flashback to say that Ben accidentally broke up with Julie and didn’t notice for who knows how long.

And that’s just one of the criticisms I can make.  Earlier Omniverse feels like Ben 10 at it’s worst.

And Omniverse does get good.  It gets so good.  It is the perfect end for the Ben 10 franchise.  If I gave up on Omniverse because I didn’t like its first season, I would have missed out on so many cool new aliens.  I would have missed fun new or returning characters.  It would have missed stories that further expanded on the concepts the show had (When it wasn’t trying to retcon the last two installments).

Just because I’m critical of certain aspects of the show doesn’t mean I don’t enjoy it.  Far from it, actually.  I’m angry about Omniverse’s flaws because I’m a fan of Ben 10.

It’s no different with RWBY.  People are upset about its problems because they enjoyed some part of it, or because they wanted to enjoy it.

#rwde

[gritsandbrits]

"Trust is for fools! Fear is the only reliable way! Even you fear me."

#no kendrix i love you i do #ben 10k #ben 10000 #omniverse #time war #time war arc #ben 10 oc #kendrix tennyson #Sketch #a bit of angst #oc angst #Ben 10 omniverse season eight #villain oc #tragic villain #azula aesthetic #princess azula #quotes

[gritsandbrits]

The edgy colored, easy bake oven of a final villain in OV was a plot contrivance specifically to push the twash ship that was BenKai THINK ABOUT IT AND DON'T TRY TO CHANGE MY MIND

The whole time war arc was trash when you think about it. We could have had OV!Kevin 11k fighting the one from the original series, the return of Devlin, which would very much help clearing things up and remove the abuse apology undertone. We probably could have even seen timelines where Ben would be married to different people.

I mean, we could have had almost every character fighting the bad guys and saving the future, maybe one final team up with Ben 23 and maybe other version of Ben that's not evil. Heck we could have gotten an explanation why the OV!Eon turned out the way he did. Even Kenny could have actually earn his Omnitrix back if he wasn't so damn selfish!

But OF COURSE they blew it on pushing BenKai at the very last minute. Come on! You guys had EIGHTY EPISODES to endear her to the audience but she never played any meaningful role, got a proper backstory, or even shown to develop more positive feelings towards Ben. Yet we're all supposed to accept them together because Spanner says so.

THAT'S why I created Kendrix. So Kenny could have the consequences of his actions AND we could have a proper origin for Eon and an, you know, ACTUAL PLOT besides forced romance and an annoying talking household appliance!

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