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LOUIS, LESTAT, & CLAUDIA + THE THING LAY STILL
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Me again (the one who inquired about Claudia's death in the books).  And Louis and Lestat just forgave him after that?!?!?! I get that relationships work differently in the TVC, and they will likely stick closer to the books than the movie for Claudia's death, but do you think they will make her death less graphic than the books or make Armand less at fault because they risk making Armand too unlikeable or too irredeemable to the casual viewer? I'm brought back to the podcast where Levin said that Lestat was not involved in Paul's death because then he would be irredeemable to most viewers.
I had the suspicion that the show would make Santiago look like the villain, and it would be a sort of plot twist that Armand had a hand in her death the entire time, but after watching the Jones cut, I'm unsure of what direction they will take Armand. He does appear remorseful and exceptionally doting. It'll be very interesting to see how that all plays out but that would be a satisfying twist for television. As a fan of the horror genre, I kind of hope the show remains true to text, but then again, I worry the majority of people outside of fandom and book readers who don't know this is coming are going to be shocked.
I don’t think they are going to soften anything or make anything less graphic or lessen Armand’s role in anything. I also don’t think they give a shit about fan reactions. There will be shock. There will be outrage. It’ll make Rolin giddy with glee. It is what it is.
But to your point about Lestat killing Paul? Lestat didn’t kill Paul, so why would they even consider adding that? He wasn’t involved in Paul’s death in the show, because he didn’t kill Paul in the book. He also never beat the shit out of Louis or choked Claudia in the book, which is interestingly one of the events confirmed to be revisited in the show (an element I’ve vehemently disagreed with entirely).
As far as Armand goes, unlike Lestat, they are not making him do anything that he doesn’t canonically do, and I think the Devil’s Minion arc will serve as Armand’s redemption like what it did for book readers.
The thing is, we don’t actually know if Louis ever forgives him for Claudia. It’s never outright addressed in any of the books. It’s only ever said that Louis knew all along Armand was the one who killed her, yet he still stayed with Armand (granted to self-punish), but I think that’s gonna be another thing audiences find hard to swallow. Of course, Louis doesn’t know the true scope of her death (i.e. the horrific surgery) until Armand divulges it to David in The Vampire Armand, but I digress. He knew Armand was the mastermind behind the trial and that he could have prevented her death. You know how one of the S2 episode titles is the “I could not prevent it” quote from Armand? Yeah.
Lestat forgives Armand (for more than just Claudia), because that’s Lestat. He forgives a lot more than he should just like with Magnus or Amel or Rhoshamandes or even with the way he continued to care for and provide for his abusive father and brothers. Lestat has a very complex “who am I to judge?” headspace wrt people doing him wrong.
Anyways, you’re actually inadvertently touching on an incredibly hot topic of discourse that’s been happening for the last year, and it has left the fandom divided. Certain ones feel certain book canon things won’t happen due to certain show-only factors, and it’s just becoming more and more blatant that couldn’t be further from the truth. Now whether people agree with this concept or not is another can of worms entirely, but there it is. They are doing the books “pretty religiously” according to Mark Johnson at TCA.
So no. I don’t foresee anything being toned down or softened and like I said, that within itself will cause a nuclear bomb explosion amongst the fandom. I’ve said it before, but this material is not for everyone. The books are full of some of the most horrific, graphic, uncomfortable, icky, blasphemous, grotesque pieces of writing. It’s not up to the show to hold the audience’s hand, and that applies to all of us whether we love every single thing about the show or hate the show or are lukewarm about the show. I mean, S1 should prove they don’t have any qualms about serving up the vicious.
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nocontextlestat · 3 days
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but have you considered that he could not have prevented it?
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hekateinhell · 10 hours
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@monstersinthecosmos and I were talking and she dug up this exchange Anne had with someone on Fanpop back in the day, concerning vampires' love and sexuality. There were quite a few fascinating tidbits but these are my favorites:
I see them [vampires] as transcending matters of gender or age. Lestat loves Louis. Louis loves Claudia. Armand loves Lestat. Lestat loves Gabrielle. There is no distinct difference in the quality of any of these loves. This has also been described as polymorphous sensuality.
"--- Armand is desperately in love with Lestat but it has nothing to do with sex. Armand feels Marius failed him and Marius feels Armand failed him, and that part has nothing to do with sex. Marius and Pandora, that is a love affair, but again sex has nothing to do with it. So they are all capable of loving people of their own gender and the other gender; gender doesn't matter. It's the essence. Lestat loves David Talbot as a lover, a friend, a mentor, a father, etc. --- It goes on like that. The act of dominating and drinking blood can happen between any two characters regardless of gender. They cannot be pinned down. They see all life as potentially beautiful and all forms of love as rewarding."
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I'm verklempt at the fact Anne mentioned Armand and Lestat in the same vein as Armand and Marius and Marius and Pandora, but also I love how much she emphasizes that they can cannot be pinned down and all that forms of love are rewarding!
It's just such a revolutionary way of thinking especially when you consider that she was a woman born in the 1940s in the American South. She may have missed the beat on some things but on others, she was right on the fucking money. 
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iwtvdramacd18 · 14 hours
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WIPS again
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m-bennet · 3 days
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cuntyvampires · 18 hours
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Lestat and fond memories, Blood Canticle
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raayllum · 10 months
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i love it when characters are unfair, actually. i love it when they’re uncouth and cranky and hypocritical, i love it when they have cognitive dissonances, i love it when they make good and bad choices for the wrong reasons. i love when they’re short to anger and hard to understand. i love it when they’ve destroyed themselves for nothing but can’t even see either part of it yet. i love it when they’re messy and selfish and bad at communicating. i love it when they get convinced of their own ego and stuck in a feedback loop regarding their own warped paranoia. i love it when characters actively make their lives unknowingly harder for themselves. i love it when characters don’t know they’re in a story. i love it when characters are like real people
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macaulaytwins · 9 days
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they would’ve run the PTA like the navy
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fire-gift · 10 days
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Feast your eyes on this special extended look at Season 2 of Interview With The Vampire. May 12 on AMC and AMC+. (c)
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felixcatton · 5 months
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VAMPIRE APPRECIATION WEEK → Favourite Vampire: Claudia de Pointe du Lac
I am done enduring.
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rosesocietyy · 10 days
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This guttural rage oh the axis of the earth has shifted
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iwtv-az-hours · 2 months
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All the season 2 IWTV images we have so far in high resolution:
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nocontextlestat · 2 days
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But try measure loss
Measure the silence of a house
The unheard footsteps at the doorway
The unemployment of the mouth
The waking up, having forgotten
And remembering again the full extent
Of what forever is
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hekateinhell · 17 hours
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Woke up today remembering Lestat's little nieces and nephews that were executed during the French Revolution; the ones he worried about and asked for portraits of and sent presents to.
How much do you think baby Claudia might have subconsciously reminded Lestat of his nieces and the family he tried to do right by? She did look like she could be his own daughter, after all.
Lestat even dreams about it when he gets the letter informing him that no one of his mortal family survived, except for his father:
I had gone back [to the family castle] and made them all into vampires, and there we were, the House de Lioncourt, whitefaced beauties even to the bloodsucking baby that lay in the cradle and the mother who bent to give it the wriggling longtailed gray rat upon which it was to feed. We laughed and we kissed one another as we walked through the ashes, my white brothers, their white wives, the ghostly children chattering together about victims [...].
Like, is that foreshadowing or what?
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birdmans · 3 days
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THE THING LAY STILL INTERVIEW WITH THE VAMPIRE (2022—)
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