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#Conrad Kellogg
earwig5 · 6 days
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it’s kind of crazy that both fallout new Vegas and fallout 4 have the same driving force for the first half of the narrative (find the guy who wronged you and make him pay) but Benny is so much more memorable and narratively interesting than Kellogg.
It’s a matter of a strong character foil versus a weak one, in my opinion.
Benny and the courier are very much alike. They are both ambitious people who are willing to do anything possible to stack the odds in their favour. Honestly, Benny and the courier are the same card, reversed.
The Sole Survivor and Kellogg are also intended to be character foils. The game tries to convince us of this with the scenes in Kellogg’s mind, where we see that he ‘isn’t so different’ from our protagonist after all. But we don’t know anything about Kellogg other than his backstory. How can he parallel the protagonist if we don’t know which traits he has? Which traits the two of them share?
(As a side note, I wish Fallout 4 had touched way more on the ‘Man/Woman Out of Time’ thing. The protagonist being frozen in the past + Kellogg being functionally immortal would’ve been really cool to explore! Especially in the context of grief!)
In the end, I think the reason Benny is a more powerful character foil is that he doesn’t disappear from the world when you kill him. The chairmen can mourn him, House will comment on it, and even NPCs across the Mojave will talk about Benny’s death!
In Kellogg’s case, the protagonist is basically the only person who knows he even existed! Once he’s dead HE’s DEAD! He disappears completely from the narrative! As soon as you leave fort Hagen, the game doesn’t bother looking back.
that’s why Benny is a more haunting force for new Vegas; particularly an independent courier. You are Benny’s legacy because you are what he leaves behind whether he likes it or not. People remember him as the couriers victim. Meanwhile, nobody remembers Kellogg at all. The memory of who Kellogg was dies with you, and you can choose to forget him.
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FALLOUT 4:
"DEATH SHROUD" SERIES UPDATE!
Check out the AMAZING artwork tumblr artist @rad-roche did for our second installment in the Death Shroud! series. This story is titled, "The Cat's Paw", and will see an even BIGGER cast of voice actors returning to reprise their roles this May to benefit Wes Johnson's VoiceAPalooza charity drive for the Alzheimer's Association.
Please note that the voice cast list may change as more people confirm, so this is likely NOT the final art.
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stoat-party · 8 months
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Sometimes a family is you, your 200-year-old mom, her sad robot boyfriend, your dead father, your other dead father who your mom says was really your brother
Your uncle/fourth dad, your cousin/brother, his dead mom
A noir detective, his secretary, his weird brother from Maine, and your evil cyborg fifth dad who haunts his brain
The Irish pit fighter who doesn’t like you but follows your mom around like a puppy
A French medical researcher who’s also a robot
A militiaman with clinical depression
Your weird uncle you think might be a shapeshifter
A reporter and her 12-year-old sister
A cool drug-abusing mayor with no skin and a bodyguard who might be his daughter
The sad robot boyfriend’s one (1) friend, also sad
Your mom’s estranged grandson the Terminator
A handful of neighbors including a mechanic, a couple with lots of emotions, a former fortune teller, and the guy whose personality is “salesman for a company that no longer exists”
Your seventh parent the butler (actually a robot this time)
The dog who’s a part-time detective, the cat your mom stole off a giant airship, and the giant cannibalistic ogre who functions more like a pet than the other two.
And that’s okay.
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leavingautumn13 · 1 year
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all my recent fallout requests in one post
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memepipboy · 2 years
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How Bethesda wanted you to feel while confronting Kellogg but how I actually reacted instead
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rad-roche · 1 year
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god it's super funny how they do like the whole ooo look we're doing a full stylish noir twist when nick shows up and the look of it and his performance totally lands, but the writing is structured in such a way that you don't get to do much. detectivey stuff? there's the conversation in the office but that's mostly a summation and the answer to 'a bald man has spirited away my child' isn't we should find out who this guy is it's the detective saying 'oh conrad kellogg? mercenary? secret mercenary kellogg? local celebrity? won diamond city's baldest man two years running?' and the actual snooping is confined to his weirdly small apartment with his comfy chair and Staring Wall and also submerging your face into his brain like you're bobbing for plot points
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the-atomic-fig · 1 month
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knock knock
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danses-with-dogmeat · 10 months
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Choose a favorite character whose name starts with "K"!
(Or a character you just want to see me write for 😁)
If you have any questions on these characters, please feel free to ask!
And if you think of someone who's not listed here that you would like to see, feel free to add a name to the comments/reblogs!
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amazinglyegg · 2 years
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Companions as r/disneyvacation posts
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Stephen Russell is BACK as Detective Nick Valentine in a new original story that takes place after the event of Death Shroud!
Amazing, amazing artwork by @rad-roche
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fallout4brainrot · 5 months
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If you didn't want me to call her princess, you shouldn't have put her in full leather.
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newvegascowboy · 2 months
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Relating to the whole body-sharing thing, how do you feel about Nick x Kellogg's Ghost?
I have a billion plot threads about the two learning to share Nick’s skull, with the common factor being Kellogg Does Not want to take revenge, hurt Nick or Sole, or delete Nick / get a new body. He's in emtional Limbo as well as physical, not sure where he wants to go from here. The Lounger woke him up once, then Amari said he would fade away... And he just didn't.
Nick believes he means no harm because he was pretty unobtrusive and managed to hide in a shadowed corner of his mind for a couple months, just watching through Nick’s eyes and reflecting on his life. The only reason he would actually possess Nick and take him hostage was if someone tried to delete him before he's ready to face death again.
And from there they become friends and/or lovers while not telling anyone Kellogg’s still technically alive.
I feel like the Kellogg's Ghost thing is kind of a hot button issue in fandom where there's 2 camps. You either fall into "it was stupid and im glad they didnt do anything with it" or "they shouldn't have brought it up only to do nothing with it". I tend to fall more into the latter camp. I think it could have been a really fucking cool thing but. Alas!
I agree with you that I don't think Kellogg would necessarily want revenge. I feel he would be in a mindset of "well you beat me, fair and square." His surprise at not being dead effectively overrides any murderous impulse for a while. I think he would be more interested in hanging out undetected in Nick's head for a while, potentially trying to learn things about sole and their companions (there could have been some perception checks or something to see if your character notices anything off with Nick while Kellogg is piloting).
I think it would have been a lot of fun to occasionally get Kellogg's insights while traveling with Nick. Random voicelines while you're walking around, maybe some combat lines where Nick is effectively talking to himself ("You're welcome for the help" / "I didn't ask").
Given Nick's personal themes of autonomy and Who Am I, Really, I don't think he would want a passenger who occasionally takes the wheels. I think his priority would be to get Kellogg out of his head. There could have been some interesting resolutions to his quest, like either you kill Kellogg once and for all, kill Nick and have him take his place, or get Kellogg out into his own new synth body.
I think he could have had some particularly interesting insights if he's around during your final fight with the Institute, like providing an extra edge in the battle or accompanying you to help.
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leavingautumn13 · 1 year
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If I can request again: Conrad Kellogg
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up to no good
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4th-fallout · 1 year
Conversation
Sole Survivor: "Hey Nick, what do you want to eat?"
Kellogg, inside Nick's head: "The souls of the innocent."
Nick: "A bagel."
Kellogg: "No!"
Nick: "Two bagels."
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memepipboy · 1 year
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99griffon · 1 year
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Imma be real, I kinda just gave up 😩
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