#anti got

[asongofstarkandtargaryen]

When I talk about asoiaf and someone mentions events that only happened on got

#anti got #asoiaf #valyrianscrolls #a post of ice and fire

[jeyneofpoole]

bad show eppysode simulator. cersei has three glasses of wine in her hand and orange hair. she is making out sloppy-style with a floor length gilded mirror but oh no! jaime is not there! where is jaime? he’s actually staring soulfully into brienne’s eyes as she delivers a heartfelt monologue about being ugly (she is gwendoline christie.) across the narrow sea missandei is curling dany’s hair with a revlon styling brush it’s very chic very medieval. jorah is jacking off in the corner they just sort of ignore him. in the north theon and sansa are running through the woods to escape evil gay iwan rheon and theon looks sooooo tortured (they dunked alfie allen in olive oil and dressed him in an ascot made out of dryer lint.) loras gets hatecrimed so hard that he blows up and is never mentioned again. in the background of some shots you can see peter dinklage tying a noose. at the very end kit harington turns to the camera and says well we sure had a game of thrones! and they they all stand in a line and kill themselves. easily television!

#asoiaf #a song of ice and fire #valyrianscrolls #got #game of thrones #anti got #sansa stark #theon greyjoy #ramsay bolton #tyrion lannister #jon snow #cersei lannister #jaime lannister #brienne of tarth #daenerys targaryen #missandei of naath #loras tyrell

[helaensa]

the line that bothers me the most on the show is “i was awful admit it” from sansa to jon because it totally changes the perspective of their childhood like my girl taught him to compliment girl’s names; jon thinks fondly of how sansa would say that morning snow beyond the wall would be an enchantment and how tears would fill her eyes at the wonder of it, jon is the only one who explicitly states he enjoys and appreciates sansa’s romanticism. besides, when jon gets hurt, he gets pretty nasty, so if sansa was bullying him, he would have said one thing or two instead, he said “she looked radiant” so that’s how we know he has a soft spot for her. whenever they think of each other in the books, there is no disdain or resentment, only a little unfamiliarity, which makes a lot of sense!

#asoiaf #anti got #valyrianscrolls #jon snow #sansa stark

[pessimisticpigeonsworld]

I saw a tiktok comparing Paul Atreides to Daenerys and it made me want to gouge out my eyes and break my phone.

I just don't understand how Dany and Paul are comparable in any way. For one thing, Dany's ending in GOT only happened because of bad writing. There's no foreshadowing, no buildup, or reason for her fall.

Disclaimer: I haven't actually read the Dune books yet, just watched the movies and read Wikipedia stuff. So anyone who has read Dune, please please please correct me if I'm misunderstanding things.

From what I saw in the movies and read from secondhand sources, Paul was never meant to be a hero. Sure, he was a good kid, but his arc isn't that of a fallen hero. The moment Paul chose to exploit the fremen and the Bene Gesserit's false prophecy, he solidified himself as anything but a hero. He was set on vengeance and survival.

Paul is a fascinating character, but he's not a hero in any way, and wasn't at any point in his story (to my understanding).

Dany is a hero, whether you like it or not. From book/season one, she's been protecting those weaker than her to the best of her ability. She sacrifices her own desires and ambitions for the sake of others.

...this Mother of Dragons, this Breaker of Chains, is above all a rescuer. (ADWD - Tyrion VI)

Dany chooses to prioritize the innocent and the oppressed in her mission. Paul chooses to lead a holy war that will kill billions of innocents.

They're not comparable characters, because they're very different archetypes and communicate very different things from the authors. Dany is an underdog and someone who fights for justice while maintaining her gentleness. Paul is someone who basically embodies "for the greater good", sacrificing billions for the future.

Dany is written to be a hero, Paul is not. Dany is only turned from being a hero because of bad writing and sexism. Paul's descent is well written and clearly foreshadowed. Paul's story is what D&D wanted to gaslight the viewers into believing Dany's was. Unfortunately, that seems to have worked for certain parts of this fandom. Also, the poster had a Sansa pfp, so I think it's easy to tell why they view Dany this way.

Paul and Dany's characters aren't even in the same ballpark as each other. Comparing them is stupid.

#daenerys targaryen #paul atreides #anti got #anti d&d #anti sansa stans #asoiaf #dune part 2 #dune spoilers #just to be safe #anti dany antis

[eonweheraldodemanwe]

You know how the writers of Game of Thrones didn't get the books themes and characters?

Season seven when Sansa and Arya sre talking about Joffrey's death enjoying it and Arya wishing she was there to watch.

Meanwhile George has Sansa horrified at Joffrey choking to death and Arya finding no joy or comfort when she learns about it because it doesn't being her dead family back.

#anti got #anti game of thrones #anti d&d #sansa stark #arya stark

[laurellerual]

Mini rant:

Sometimes you want to read some old Gendrya fanfiction, and sometimes you find yourself in an endless pit of stories written at the end of season 8. There's an absurd amount, all the same, written by casual fans to vent on GoT's ending. The standard plot is: 

Gendry became the perfect lord in two weeks, commoners love him, highborns love him, everyone wants to marry him. He has magically become the most charming and famous person in all the kingdoms, Jon is his super.best.friend.forever and Sansa has adopted him into the family. Arya returns home and suddenly everyone hates her and demeans her, and treats her like a naughty child who must: A) happily accept that Jon will package her up and send her off to lord Gendry to marry against her will. Or B) Go to lord Gendry begging and humiliating herself until he takes her back. She must learn her place cause she is super dangerous but also just a girl, so every time she tries to rebel Jon and/or Gendry pin her down easly and bring her to Sansa for a scold. I swear sometimes they jiggle happly at how weak she is...

On nights like this I remember why I hate the GoT fandom... Anyway, sorry, I needed to vent too.

If you would like to recommend something good to read, I would be grateful. And if you want to spit out some frustration, you can do it here, this is a mean post. 🤷‍♂️

#arya stark #gendrya #anti got #I'm crying tears of blood #fandom bs

[rainhadaenerys]

I don't really care about HOTD all that much, but damn, it's hard to ignore how biased in favor of the Greens the show is. I just watched the new trailers, and not only is the Green trailer longer, but the Black trailer is filled with shots of the Green characters instead of actually focusing on the Blacks. The Black trailer also really seems to try to paint the Blacks in a worse light, while the Green trailer is all about "poor Alicent" who only wants to honor Viserys's "last wish" and who needs to be told by her father that violence is necessary because she is oh so upset about it... oh poor Alicent who made sacrifices for her house and the realm her entire life... the Green favoritism is really blatant.

#rambling #anti got #anti got rant #anti hotd

[abrideofdrogons]

people talk about foreshadowing but never forget season seven sees daenerys leave daario behind in meereen for potential "political marriage arrangements" & then none of her advisors OR jon's advisors decide to mend the rift in the north or avoid potential usurpation by.................................... politically marrying them despite THREE SEASONS of giggling & twirling their hair over it

#a song of ice and fire #asoiaf #daenerys targaryen #anti d&d #anti got

[unknown-terrain]

Congrats to show!Jaime for finally making it to #1 on a popular media list! 😂 Good to see that heading onto the 5th anniversary of the disastrous S8, Jaime's forced Twincest ending is still truly hated by the masses and that Dumb and Dumber's dream of J/C becoming the "true love" story the audience would grow to love be completely shattered over and over. Anybody with a functioning brain could have told them Twincest was never going to be loved. GRRM himself told them that through asoiaf and making Jaime/Brienne his Beauty and the Beast story but of course D&D never understood the books and thought they could do better. Anyways it's always nice to see D&D get hate for ruining Jaime lmao.

#jaime lannister #nikolaj coster waldau #anti got #game of thrones #anti game of thrones #anti d&d #anti jaime x cersei #anti twincest #anti lannicest #anti cersei lannister #anti cersei #jaime x brienne #braime #brienne of tarth #asoiaf

[jackoshadows]

Sometimes I recall what GOT did to the character of Daenerys Targaryen and I still can't wrap my mind around it. The single worst bit of character assassination I have ever seen in fictional media. I don't get it. They took the heroic protagonist who freed slaves and saved the realm from a zombie apocalypse and in the penultimate episode had her randomly slaughter thousands of innocent people FOR NO REASON!!

Cersei was already defeated, Daenerys already won, she got KL. The people of KL were not fighting against her like the slave masters or the Lannisters. And it's not even like the Mad King because even the Mad Kind only wanted to burn down KL with Wildfire because Tywin got through the gates and he wanted to take everyone down with him. Daenerys had NO REASON! They just wrote the protagonist of the series randomly massacre people in the penultimate episode for no reason - it's not madness, strategy or villainy! NO REASON.

It would be like if Tolkien did not finish LOTR and D&D got their hands on the adaptation (*shivers*) and there would be no Gollum and Frodo would end up not destroying the Ring and becoming a dark lord, the final big bad even more powerful than Sauron himself, to subvert expectations and surprise viewers...

Or if George Lucas stopped with The Empire Strikes Back and D&D finished the trilogy with The Return of the Jedi and Luke joins forces with Vader and Palpatine to subvert expectations....

And EVEN all of those endings would still have made more sense than Daenerys randomly massacring thousands... FOR NO REASON!!

#anti GOT #anti D&D #Daenerys Targaryen #I don't get it... #How did they look at the absolute shite they wrote and think that was ok? #How did the top folks at HBO look at this absolute shite and think it was okay? #and this garbage will be the only ending we will get because GRRM can't be bothered to finish a story he started 30 years ago

[darklinaforever]

The day people realize that the return of dragons and magic is not a bad thing for Westeros and that Daenerys is not destined to become a great villain, the world will be better.

Just as the world will be better the day people realize that the Targaryens are not the villains of the story, and that this house is not destined to fall through the downfall of Daenerys' character, who will never happen in the books. 😂

If GRRM ever finishes the books, it's crazy to think that Daenerys will end up dying as a big bad and the dragons will disappear again and House Targaryen will be destroyed. 😂

Daenerys Targaryen is for me the perfect revenge for what happened to Rhaenyra.

#house targaryen #daenerys targaryen #daenerys stormborn #asoiaf #a song of ice and fire #grrm #grr martin #george rr martin #fire and blood #f&b #house of the dragon #hotd #anti hotd #anti house of the dragon #rhaenyra targaryen #pro rhaenyra targaryen #the realms delight #the black queen #queen rhaenyra #the dragon queen #the half year queen #pro daenerys targaryen #team blacks #team black #pro team blacks #pro team black #got #game of thrones #anti got #anti game of thrones

[allovesthings]

Arya Stark deserves an adaptation with better costumes.

#asoiaf #a song of ice and fire #arya stark #better everything really but still #anti game of thrones #anti got

[fromtheseventhhell]

Northern Lords rallying for Arya aka "Valiant Ned's precious little girl" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jon and Sansa having to go door to door to ask for support like beggars

#arya stark #asoiaf #anti got #anti d&d #the downfall of GOT aka the Stark sister's are NOT interchangeable #the North remembers in the books...in the show the North has dementia #I hate that they reduced Arya's importance but I love that they did such a piss poor job of adapting that plot #Arya's right in the middle of the Northern plot in the books and the show barely even had a Northern plot lol #D&D being hacks who can't probably adapt a storyline /pretends to act shocked/

[asongofstarkandtargaryen]

Τhe difference between Asoiaf Arya and Got Arya and why the former will always be superior:

#arya stark #anti got #valyrianscrolls #a post of ice and fire #they did her dirty on the show #my poor baby

[pessimisticpigeonsworld]

D&D saying that one of their favorite plots from the books is the Boltons in Winterfell is a massive sign of their sexism. Now, for anyone one else, I'd probably not care, in fact, I'd agree it's a very interesting part. However, when it comes to the showrunners who needlessly wrote in excessive rape and violence against women, I see it as a red flag. That's compounded by the way they wrote it.

From the beginning of the show, D&D sabotaged the storyline by removing Jeyne Poole. Keep in mind, ADWD was released in 2008, while GOT premiered in 2011, meaning there was no possible way for D&D to not know everything necessary to bring about that specific plot. Add to that the fact that GRRM was heavily involved in season one, them blatantly ignoring Jeyne makes even less sense if they truly cared about adapting it properly.

Knowing this, that D&D themselves sabotaged their own story, the way it was handled makes a bit more sense, though not nearly enough. Without Jeyne there to play the part of fake Arya, a new bride for Ramsay was needed. Sansa was D&D's favorite character, they were unsatisfied with the story GRRM had written for her, they wanted more screen time and plot relevance for her. It seemed like making Sansa take Jeyne's place was a good solution to both these issues.

Except it wasn't. Littlefinger sending Sansa out of the Vale to marry Ramsay makes no sense. Not only is Sansa the object of Littlefinger's obsession, a replacement for Catelyn in his mind, she also was important to Littlefinger getting the Vale on his side (in the show). She was charming the lords and knights, balancing their intense dislike for him with their desire to help/protect her. Not to mention she was his only alibi to save him from accusations of Lysa's murder. Sending her away from the Vale harms Littlefinger's plans. She also would definitely not be "protected" from Cersei; after all the Boltons were loyal to the Lannisters and hated the Starks, what's to stop them from killing Sansa or handing her over once the Northern lords are more settled?

Speaking of the Northern lords, D&D removed the Northern Conspiracy. Throughout the book plot, the Northern lords are plotting to save Arya and depose the Boltons (in a nutshell, it's actually much more complex, but I'm not going into that rn). It's an excellent expression of how the Northerners loved the Starks and hate the Boltons. In the show, the lords are a bit disgruntled, sure, but they have no interest in deposing the Boltons and saving Sansa.

Another major part of the storyline minimized by the show is Theon/Reek. Theon's struggle with identity is a major part of his character throughout the series, and ADWD is no different. He's been stripped entirely of his identity by Ramsay's torture and Theon's own choices. Part of his arc in this book is discovering himself apart from the Starks and the Greyjoys.

That's definitely not what the show did. As I said earlier, Sansa is D&D's favorite character, so naturally she became the center focus of this arc, while Theon was pushed aside. He's essentially reduced to the method of Sansa's escape and goes on track to return to his pre-season one perception of himself: a Stark. This is a massive disservice to his character, Theon isn't a Stark; his life with them is important to his storyline and will definitely inform what he becomes, but it's not the true culmination of his arc. Basically, Theon was turned into a side character in his own story. It's through his pov we see this story, he's the character most tied to Ramsay. Obviously Jeyne is important and a main character in her own right for this arc, but she is not the central character we see the story through. So why is Sansa? She has no stake in this story, Jeyne is forced there after being sex trafficked and Theon is a captive.

So what does this leave for the show version of the plot? There's no conspiracy, Theon's pushed to the side, and politics and overall story are sacrificed. Well that leaves torture and violence against Ramsay's bride. Without the many moving parts of that storyline, it's just a story of a woman being abused horribly by her husband and eventually escaping. However, the escape isn't even the main aspect of the story focused on, that's always the abuse. It's also purely Sansa's abuse, not Theon's or the many people tortured and murdered by Ramsay, Sansa is the sole focus.

So basically, D&D took a plotline that's filled with the inner workings of Northern politics and the complexities of battling identity loss and reduced it to another excuse to show a woman be raped and abused on screen. The desire to turn this stroy into another way to make Sansa suffer is disturbing, and to make matters worse she fucking thanks Ramsay later on?? This whole storyline in the show is disgusting and yet another sign of how sexist D&D are.

#anti got #anti d&d #also sophie turner had just turned 18 when the season was filmed #disgusting #theon greyjoy #ramsay bolton #sansa stark #jeyne poole #asoiaf

[decadentbutterflies]

No, it's about the brain rot of Sansa stans calling Dany evil and a colonizer etc. Or erasing/diminishing Sansa bullying Arya when we bring that up that she's not exactly kind, only when she wants to be.

Acting like Sansa is a perfect fit for a queen instead because she's kind and "everyone she touches becomes kinder" while she slowly poisons a child, her own cousin (she was even warned about how it hurts the boy) and then going "me and father have more important things to worry about", who's mother was murdered by the man she covers. Being classist...

You could argue that she does it out of fear (which I agree with except the feasts and classist behavior ofc). She is not "kind" like an average person would be. She isn't evil, but calling her kind and then acting like Dany isn't and calling Daenerys a tyrant is mind blowing. Dany personally feeds refugees and genuinely does her best to help people, while Miss Sansa throws feasts while the common folk is starving.

And the argument is... She killed slavers.. Oh noo, how dare she.

Also Sansa's bullying is another reason why people don't see her as kind (validly), but again people love to erase that and diminish it.

Or do even THIS lmao. I just knew there's going to be something "Arya is mean, Arya is bad" in the comments.

Yes, because Arya bullied her so much, like throwing peach on her after Sansa was her classist self (this was Arya's reply to Sansa saying "once she's the queen Arya will have to bow down to her" btw. she ain't becoming a follower like some fans wish for her to be).

She was bullied so much that she has trauma that she doesn't even believe when others tell her she's pretty. Sansa felt sooo out of place in Winterfell and lonely (not like she had any friends that followed with the bullying..) :'((

But thankfully we have Jon who's going to save her and marry her because he just LOVES the "waiting for someone to save her" type of girl! He can't stop talking about that kind of woman lmao.

Ofc. A Jonsa and Catelyn fan account lmao.

I can't make this sht up. That show should've never been made, I'm sorry, but it brought so many morons combining the show into the books and completely changed how fanon sees many of the characters.

#asoiaf #anti d&d #anti jonsa #arya stark #sansa stark #anti sansa stans #anti got