#anti ironman

[tonystarkisadouchebag]

Once again remembering how Tony wasn't one of Steve's friends, but merely his annoying ass co-worker

The Stark that was actually Steve's friend is Howard

I still think one of the most disappointing things about the Avengers movies is that they never liked each other. It never felt like they had a fun team dynamic that grew and developed in satisfying ways over time. Tony feels partly responsible for this because everyone basically hated him before he had his martyr moment in Endgame. He was just endlessly cruel and mysoginistic to his teammates.

Civil War lacks the punch it should've had because Tony tells us that he and Steve were friends, but you have to laugh because since when?! Why was that never shown? Why would Steve choose a bully coworker over the one person who's always been there for him? Age of Ultron and Civil War were huge mistakes that caused irreparable harm.

#anti ironman #anti tony stark #ask #mcu criticism #mcu critical

[ifandomus]

Well, no wonder why they supported Tony and the Sokovia Accords; they don't see the enhanced characters as human beings either.

#mcu #anti tony stans #anti tony stark #anti ironman #anti team ironman #anti sokovia accords #pro team cap #pro steve rogers #steve rogers

[cixxsxturn]

"tony's a good person-" tony joked about reinstating prima nocta what are you ON??? that's a shitty sense of humour and misogynistic to the CORE what the fuck

#anti tony #anti iron man #steve rogers defense squad #anti irondad #anti ironman #anti tony stans

[nataliaxalianovnaxxx]

In response : Warning, lots of facts.

The Accords were most definitely created to take away rights. I don't know how whether or not someone is American has anything to do with their view point. How is the removal of due process not an infringement or the removal of basic human rights? So because they were made by the UN, they're safe? Didn’t the government try to nuke New York? Weren’t they the same ones with Hydra running around inside? The minute you start targeting a specific group of people, it's a problem.

Let me just break down the Accords real quick:

Any enhanced individuals who agree to sign must register with the United Nations and provide biometric data such as fingerprints and DNA samples. Those with secret identities must reveal their legal names and true identities to the United Nations. Those with innate powers must submit to a power analysis, which will categorize their threat level and determine potential health risks. Those with innate powers must also wear tracking bracelets at all times.

Fingerprints? DNA? Tracking bracelets? How invasive.

I’m sure this can fall under the fourth amendment (the right of the people of the US to feel secure in their homes, and of possessions, without fear of ‘unreasonable searches and seizures’).

Any enhanced individuals who sign are prohibited from taking action in any country other than their own unless they are first given clearance by either that country's government or by a United Nations subcommittee. Governments are forbidden from deploying enhanced individuals outside of their own national borders unless those individuals are given clearance as described above. The same rule also applies to non-government organizations that operate on a global scale (including S.H.I.E.L.D. and the Avengers).

Any enhanced individuals who do not sign will not be allowed to take part in any police, military, or espionage activities, or to otherwise participate in any national or international conflict, even in their own country. As a corollary, they will not be allowed to participate in any active missions undertaken by private or governmental law enforcement/military/intelligence organizations (such as S.H.I.E.L.D. and the Avengers).

Sounds like coercion to me.....which is illegal.

Any enhanced individuals who use their powers to break the law (including those who take part in extralegal vigilante activities), or are otherwise deemed to be a threat to the safety of the general public, may be detained indefinitely without trial. If an enhanced individual violates the Accords, or obstructs the actions of those enforcing the Accords, they may likewise be arrested and detained indefinitely without trial.

So, what exactly is defined as an extralegal activity? What if someone has it out for an enhanced individual and turns them in? Then what? This is a direct violation of the Sixth Amendment (The right of all citizens of the US to a speedy and fair trial)

It’s also in direct violation of the eighth amendment (A ban on extreme punishments for crime, with a focus on ‘cruel and unusual’, and on excessive fines or bail.

The use of technology to bestow individuals with innate superhuman capabilities is strictly regulated, as is the use and distribution of highly advanced technology (such as Asgardian and Chitauri weaponry). The creation of self-aware artificial intelligence is completely prohibited.

The Avengers will no longer be a private organization and will operate under the supervision of the United Nations.

Tell me again how this isn’t a violation of human rights?

Just because someone is part of the majority, doesn't mean they're correct, some of ya’ll are way too old to not know that 🥴 Steve actually did read the Accords, in fact, in the movie, he's the only one who was shown to be reading them. Look below. I guess he’s reading the dinner menu from Olive Garden or something 

Tony Stark was in charge of that company from age 21. He was responsible for what was happening and he should've been paying better attention to what was going on in HIS company. Why do Tony Stans feel the need to defend some forty year old man who should know better?

He DID manufacture weapons. He admitted to that over the course of his films, to claim otherwise is willfully ignorant. 

War Profiteer - Any person or organization that derives profit from warfare or by selling weapons and other goods to parties at war. Hmm 🧐, it seems as if you're the one who doesn't actually know the definition of the words. Because that's EXACTLY what Tony did. I mean, did you forget the big 'ol Stark Industries logo on the bomb that nearly killed him? On the one that killed Wanda’s parents? How do you think he made his fortune? 

He never made fun of anyone's trauma? He was the same dude that called Steve 'Capsicle', Bucky the 'Manchurian Candidate', he tried to get Bruce to turn into the Hulk on the helicarrier... And he didn't create BARF, Quentin Beck did and he stole his work. Once again, explained in the movies.

Ultron was from the framework of Tony's mind, again, explained in the movies. The movie also explained that Thor allowed him to STUDY the mind stone, not USE it. Tony went behind everyone's back and coerced Bruce into helping him create Ultron. What did Thor and Wanda have to do with that? He's a grown man, he's responsible for his own actions. It upsets a lot of Tony Stans, but he was wrong. Get over it.

Are you a troll? Because none of what you're saying makes any sense. You know what they say about intentions? Tony was wrong to create Ultron. We're all willingly blind, but you're the one who isn't using facts.

Please do tell what laws Steve Rogers broke 🙄. Steve was an actual Captain as evident on his military uniform and how was he not a soldier? Because YOU said so? Dude fought in WWII and now he's not a soldier? Ha! Him refusing to sign the Accords was noble and in the end, the correct decision, there's nothing arrogant about protecting the little guy. I guess Peter Parker is arrogant, too. And by the way, the same Accords that you're backing, guess who actually broke them? Your golden boy, Tony ☺️ He wasn’t even supposed to be in Siberia, they should’ve thrown him in the Raft and ate the key. He's never been about accountability. Only arrogance, selfishness and greed. It's funny you say that Cap is the reason other countries fear the US, but actually, it's the billionaire, war profiteer that went over to Middle East and started murdering people because he wanted to. Oops. When Thanos came along, who did the people want help from? The same Avengers they wanted arrested two years prior.

Tell me, if he was so about accountability? Why isn’t he in prison? Why did he create these glasses (as seen above)? Why did he shoot Sam unprovoked? Why did he continue to make weapons? Why did he sit around for five years and do nothing? Why did he bring Peter to Germany? Why did he try to kill Bucky instead of finding Hydra? Why did he push his company off on Pepper? Why didn’t he call Steve before it was too late? Why did he expose Clint’s family?

Don’t come on here and swear at me and disrespect me. I don’t like it, it’s not cute. I am more than willing to have a discussion as long as it remains respectful.

#anti ironman #anti tony stark #anti tony stans #anti team ironman #anti sokovia accords #anti accords #anti irondad #pro Bucky Barnes #pro clint barton #pro steve rogers #pro captain america #pro team cap

[pandadude55]

first post but i just saw this on a youtube video about how tony was a terrible person. like why post this on the video when u know the people seeing it would be people who don't like tony. also like all of these points can be easily debunked cause they don't make any sense at all. this person is acting like everything good n progressive that happened in the mcu was down to tony n no one else did anything productive which is not true as well. i just don't understand the point of this comment so enjoy looking at this :)

#anti tony stark #anti tony stans #anti ironman #anti team iron man #what goes through their brains when writing things like this #i will never understand iron man/tony stark fans i swear #have fun experiencing the mental damage i went through guys #honestly made me laugh tbh #pro team cap #pro captain america #please someone debunk these so i don't have to pls im begging

[stevesbigbazoxngas]

"BOTH sides in Civil War were wron--" [GUNSHOT]

#tell me how you have 5 minutes #im so serious how is team cap saying 'the accords are wrong and also bucky is innocent and did not set off the bomb' in ANY way comparable #to team im advocating for a document spearheaded and written by thaduess ross that restricts basic civil rights and interns ppl and is like #textbook fascist???? pls tell me how. idgaf if ppl 'meant well' with it in universe who fucking presented it to them??? ross?? you trust #fucking ROSS??????? YOU THINK HE HAD GOOD INTENTIONS?? YIU THINK TINY WAS DOING ANYTHING BUT SHIFT BLAME AND GUILT OFF HIMSELF??? #im so tired #cw facism #steve rogers #captain america civil war #cacw #cacw discourse #team cap #anti tony stark #anti ironman #anti sokovia accords #sokovia

[jewishbarbies]

everyone point and laugh

#g talks #anti tony stark #anti tony stark stans #anti ironman #deadpool #mine #/mobile #/okay to reblog

[fanartka]

can you tag your mid ass AI art so nobody gotta look at that crap thanks 🌹

My answer is "No."

And this is the line beyond which my patience finally ceases to be patient.

@docty-strange If you can't see beauty, then maybe you shouldn't force your radical opinion on those who don't need it.

AI is a tool with which a person can translate his ideas, his thoughts from words into an image, a way for an artist to create something in a style different from his own and sometimes adopt an idea, a well-generated fold of a patterned garment or something similar to use already in what he draws with his own hands.

This is not an enemy, not a devil, it is not even intelligence, it is a tool, like Photoshop and other programs, including programs that people use to improve the quality of screenshots and photos, by the way.

I am old enough to remember heated discussions about the idea that digital artists are not real artists, but just hacks. And although I'm not old enough to remember the Luddites, I'm sure they had very similar rhetoric when they broke machines that only improved people's lives.

Every time something new appears, most people perceive it as a threat. There are still people who blame smartphones and computers for all human ills, just as a few centuries ago fanatics believed that the devil sat in the clock and turned the mechanism. I think our ancestors, who first began to use sharpened stones instead of fists, were also perceived as something strange and threatening. But this is just progress.

The world is changing. AI isn't perfect, it has a problem with human fingers and there are some legal issues that need to be ironed out, but this thing allows people to create beauty that wouldn't otherwise exist. AI helps in scientific calculations, including medical calculations, and much more.

Oh, and thank god I don't have to buy marble, hire a sculptor, and figure out where to find space for a Strange statue in my apartment, because I can see what such a statue would look like with the help of AI.

But pestering other people with all sorts of nasty things and demanding that they do as you would like is unacceptable. Seriously, when haters come to my inbox, most of them are homophobes who claim that Stephen would never love a guy and demand that I stop disgracing him, or with statements like that.

AI can make beauty, but you can only produce hatred and bother people with your demands. If you don't like it, don't watch it. That's how the Internet works.

Take it back 🌹 You know what to do with it.

#anti anti ai #ai art #beautiful ai #anti ai #doctor strange #stephen strange #doctor stephen strange #marvel #benedict cumberbatch #ai #ai ironman #ironman #dr strange #ai craft #ai painting #beauty

[buckys-metal-arm]

Wild that the Russos are responsible for both the best and worst movies in the MCU

#they really lived long enough to see themselves become the villains huh #catws will always be the best Marvel movie hands and metal arms down #and Endgame is the worst (or at least one of them) #captain america the winter soldier #avengers endgame #anti russo brothers #anti endgame #like the ironman sequels and tdw aren't *good* even by marvel standards but at least it didnt undo 10 years of character and drag on for #3 hours #like that final fight was cool as fuck but i dont think it was worth the 2 hours of movie before hand like they could've cut SO MUCH

[breckstonevailskier]

Source

#pro team cap #anti team ironman #anti tony stark #cacw #anti sokovia accords #wanda maximoff #clint barton #steve rogers #scott lang #sam wilson #scarlet witch #falcon #hawkeye #ant man #vision #t'challa #black panther

[tonystarkisadouchebag]

Irondad stans are so werid like peater is 15 like have they never seen a teenager in rl they aren't afraid to cuss or completely ignorant to the world. They write and draw him like some little kid he's almost a grown man.

That's a good point I haven't touched on, in order to make Irondad work, fans infantilize Peter in a way that makes his character unrecognizable. Irondad fans have to simultaneously make Peter much more childish and dependent and make Tony less...Tony in order for the dynamic to fit their needs. At that point, make OCs or try other characters.

#anti irondad #anti ironman #anti iron man #anti tony stark #ask

[ifandomus]

Some people: “Do you ever think about how sad it is that Bucky can't make amends to Tony? So there is one name on his amends list that he can't ever cross off. But maybe he can try to make amends to Tony’s family?”

Me:

#this is a horrible take that should die as soon as possible #mcu #anti tony stans #although its not just tony stans who are saying this #which horrifies me #anti tony stark #anti ironman #anti tfatws #tfatws critical #although the idea that bucky should make amends to tony or his family didn't start because of the ‘amends’ crap in tfatws #it it did really intensify it #and made it popular in parts of the fandom where it hadnt even been before #pro bucky barnes #bucky deserves better #bucky barnes

[pfefferii]

ill admit idk much ab the mcu but i can say for sure that tony stark is annoying and acts exactly like id expect from a billionaire. he watches andrew tate

#mcu #marvel cinematic universe #anti tony stark #anti iron man #i dont care that much for the mcu outside of spiderman and i only have like. basic knowledge outside of that #and even then mcu peter is my least fave. raimi and webbs peters wld hate tony stark #mcu peter parker is a bootlicker but i think he wouldve been good if he had less involvement w stark #it feels like they centered him around ironman too much and it feels out of character #i could rant for days ab why i hate tony stark & peter parkers whole. thing. in the mcu

[nataliaxalianovnaxxx]

Public service announcement:

If anyone wants to come onto my posts and debate something with me, that’s fine. Do not come onto my posts, curse at me, discredit me, and then block me so I can’t reply to you.

So, @folliesgelly , if you’d like to have a conversation, you are more than welcome to without being disrespectful. I tag everything appropriately, if you love Tony Stark, then what’re you doing here?

Have a nice day.

#anti tony stark #anti ironman #tony stark negative #anti sokovia accords #tony stark critical #anti tony stans #pro tony stark #tony stark #avengers endgame

[magickgirl786]

The fact that Iman Vellani thinks Kamala would have been on Team T/ony in Civil War is just laughable like I get Iman as a person being on Team T/ony since she’s a fan of RDJ (but even then that’s a shit excuse lol) but Kamala who is Muslim and has powers and is very likely against people being discriminated against based on things they can’t control like religion or superpowers wouldn’t trust someone who agrees with the government wanting to register people with powers and try to tell them who to save and protect

#kamala khan #iman vellani #anti tony stark #anti team ironman

[potential-fate]

Tonight though, everyone was obsessed with Nicholas’s “dad”. Not that that was really what he was, but on paper at least, and apparently in Abraham Helios’ mind, he was Nicholas’s father. If Aunt Elaine wanted to distract him from that, Nicholas wasn’t about to complain. He could sit here and listen quietly as his half sister chatted up his recently un-dead father for reasons that were obvious even to a 15 year old. 

Admittedly, he was a little surprised at how oddly protective he felt of his own mother. Elaine kept making barely concealed remarks about her, and it was irritating him. Which was a bit odd. He’d never really cared before. It wasn’t like his mother had been a great parental figure. She’d left 90% of that to Ironman pretty much his entire life, choosing instead to lock herself away in her room, with books and liquor. 

But on the other hand, she was all Nicholas had left now that they’d shoved Ironman in a closet or a secret basement somewhere. It had always been just the three of them in this huge house. Without Ironman, that left his mother as his only real ally. Abraham Helios would never be his ally in any sense. Whether or not Nicholas was the heir to his fortune and legacy. Abraham wasn’t his friend, and he definitely wasn’t his father. At least not in anything but name.

#arkhelios #sims stories #sims 2 #sims 2 stories #sims 2 gameplay #ts2 #my posts #Arkh Ch5 #Nicholas Fontana #Elaine Chun #Ian Chun #Abraham Helios #booo hiss abraham and his anti-ironman plans #lets kill him again?