#anyways stan macdennis

[ashwayssunny]

carry that weight.

hello! here’s a lil fic that nobody asked for. aka, dennis spends the night on the couch. set during “the gang gets romantic,” so it’s tagged for spoilers! warnings for brief mentions of v*miting, drug use, and dennis-typical creepiness.

Like most nights, he couldn’t sleep. He’d felt a headache building for hours, had known it would be a nasty one as soon as the woman Mac had unceremoniously decided to pair him with revealed she was no single woman after all. He wasn’t sure if he’d lost interest in the scheme then, or if he’d simply never had any to begin with. Either way, he’d had to swallow his complaints. It would’ve been so simple - should’ve been so simple - for him to crawl into Mac’s bed, drift away, and forget the scheme altogether, but the way his skin burned like he’d laid down on a bed of hot coals told him it simply would not be. 

The couch was not meant to host an overnight guest. It was uncomfortable on the best of days, and today was not one of its best days. It was cold, the leather warped and torn in odd places, and so lumpy, Dennis felt as if he were trying to get comfortable on the head of a giant mushroom. He was cold, too, as he always was, and the throw blanket he must’ve stolen from his sister no less than ten years ago offered him no support. He dreaded the way his back would ache in the morning, and the thought of it was almost enough to send him running back to Mac’s room with his tail between his legs. Almost. 

The woman - Lisa, he remembered vaguely, though he’d thought he’d made it a rule for himself that knowing their names cheapened the experience - was attractive enough. Slender figure, inauspicious features, a face he’d forget once it wriggled out from underneath him. He liked redheads. Mac knew that, of course. Mac seemed to know many things about him; Dennis didn’t know why that surprised him after nearly twenty-five years of cohabitation. I know you, man, Mac had said to him once in a way that sounded quite like he was saying something else. Dennis remembered fighting back tears for the first time since childhood. Mac was so close, he thought, just in the other room, nothing but paint and drywall between them. If Dennis concentrated hard enough, he could make out the sound of him snoring obscenely; he pictured Mac’s arms and legs tossed haphazardly over themselves, knew he was drooling into his one and only pillowcase-less pillow. He wondered, if he had stayed, if Mac would be drooling into his shoulder instead. 

Dennis rolled onto his side, pushing those thoughts away. The current occupants of his room seemed to still be awake; the walls in their apartment would certainly win no awards for protecting anyone’s privacy, and despite his best efforts to soundproof the room, sound escaped just as frequently and as forcefully as so many failed sexual escapades that passed through that very same door. Twenty-five years’ worth of sexual escapades. Dennis tried not to think too hard about how long twenty-five years truly was. Until recently, he’d been twenty-five in his head, willfully ignorant of the passage of time, but now as he stared down the reality of being nearly twice that age, the bliss that came with his willful ignorance had all but disappeared. At twenty-five, he could shoot tequila till the sun came up, sleep for a few hours, and go on about his day, rinsing and repeating each night in a pattern that became as comfortable and familiar to him as waking up and falling asleep. He would always vomit, of course, because a weak stomach and an easily triggered gag reflex was something, among other things he didn’t care to admit, he shared with his twin sister. Now he was lucky if vomiting was all that came of nights like that. After thirty-five, his hangovers seemed to evolve, lasting days and robbing him of usefulness for what seemed like weeks, like months, like years. Now, pushing forty-five, it was not so easy to rinse and repeat. 

A brief but unmistakable sob came from his room, and Dennis rolled his eyes but was secretly grateful for distraction. His thoughts returned to the woman, Lisa. He remembered trying to stare at her. It wasn’t unusual; he often studied his targets, drank them in like a smooth crème de menthe. He knew it made them uneasy, and he’d liked it that way. But his eyes kept drifting, and it was jarring to him in a way he could not pinpoint. He didn’t feel anything when he looked at her; then again, he didn’t feel anything when he looked at any of them, but a deep, burning lust that boiled in his brain and in his stomach and told him he would combust if he didn’t touch someone was ever-present. Or it had been. It wasn’t now, and that was most jarring of all. Lisa was attractive enough; sweet-faced, red-haired, curvy in the best places, and totally, completely uninteresting to him. He wondered if something in him was broken for good this time, if he could never get it back, if he even wanted to get it back. If he even wanted anything at all. 

Another sob choked its way through the silence of their apartment, grating on Dennis’s eardrums. He groaned aloud, hating Mac for putting him through this. He considered turning on the TV in the living room and popping in a Rambo DVD just to rattle him awake with the sound of gunfire. When more muffled whimpering made him clench his fists tightly to his body, he decided he needed some other noise, anything else, to drown it out. He reached for his phone across the coffee table, sliding past the home screen and opening his Spotify app. With shaky hands, he pressed the ‘shuffle’ button on a Rock Classics playlist, closing his eyes and placing his phone next to his ear. Soft, simple piano chords started to loosen the knot in his chest, and when Paul McCartney’s sweet voice began to dance against his eardrum, he smiled in spite of himself. His eyes drifted shut. “Once there was a way to get back homeward,” Paul sang, “once there was a way to get back home...”

He’d tried to look at her legs. He’d forced himself to stare. They were nice enough, as was the curve of her ass, but he felt no familiar twinge of desire. Why couldn’t he just look at her legs? Instead, he felt fear. Months could by at times without him feeling anything at all, and though that frightened him, he knew he could substitute physical arousal for emotion with a relatively high rate of success. It didn’t make him feel happy, but it made him feel something. And that counted. Every drop of water in the desert of his emotional terrain was appreciated, was needed. Like any desert, he could dry up for months, not a feeling in sight, but once the rainy season began, it ran its course with such forceful agony, he wondered if the therapist he’d seen with Dee so many years ago was on to something after all. 

“Sleep, pretty darling, do not cry...”

Why had he agreed to the scheme at all? As the verses repeated, he turned the question over and over in his mind, poking holes in his own arguments, tearing down his own defenses. Obviously he’d done the scheme to satisfy Mac, but... why? Dennis bristled at the thought of Mac having purposefully booked a married couple to force Dennis into his room, but his reaction to the unfortunate existence of Lisa’s husband seemed genuine. Dennis knew Mac well enough to know when he was lying. He paused, considering that thought. He’d seen Mac lie through his teeth a thousand times, and he was bad at it because Dennis knew that he wore his heart on his sleeve, but how many others knew that about him? How many others could sniff out Mac’s lies, pick his laugh out of a crowd of a thousand, recognize even the faintest hint of his scent when Mac’s clothes inevitably mixed with some of his own in the wash? I know you, man, Mac’s voice whispered in his head. 

Lisa, he said to himself. He needed to think about Lisa. Lisa, with her red hair and her red, snotty nose and her husband. Dennis nearly scoffed. What a ridiculous thing to want to have. Perhaps if he tried hard enough, conjured Lisa’s face above Jackie DeNardo’s chest, it would work. He could rub out a quick one and be asleep in twenty minutes. For whatever reason, however, his mind’s eye could not linger on her. Lisa’s face warped and changed shape, shifting into something so unrecognizable, he could not remember it at all. What was it he’d said to Mac earlier? That this whole thing felt desperate, felt unlike him? Odd, he conceded, for a man who once purchased a boat to help him attract women. But Dennis had run the same course, danced the same steps so many times between twenty-five and forty-five, he’d finally begun to dream about packing up his tap shoes and retiring the show for good. Performing, yes, it was all a performance - albeit an excellent one, he gave himself - but a performance nonetheless, and one he feared may finally be better left to a younger man. But perhaps he could do it. Dennis Reynolds had done everything in his life with grace, with poise and mystique. Why should aging be any different? He could retire the skin of his old self like a baseball jersey; some ill-fitting thing at which he could look back and smile but no longer had the power to squeeze him to fit its mold. Yes, that would be nice. 

The drums cascaded like a waterfall down the track and forced in a new tune. “Boy, you’re gonna carry that weight, carry that weight a long time...”

And what would be left there, in the empty space between the old Dennis and the new? Dennis swallowed hard without meaning to as another face took shape in his mind, a much more familiar face. Mac smiled at him so sweetly that morning, his giddiness about scheming together again palpable in the air. Mac smiled at him earlier, too, lying next to him silently, their arms brushing just enough to set that part of Dennis’s skin on fire. Mac had always looked at him that way. It made him seem younger. Dennis wondered if perhaps that was because it reminded him of high school, of smoking pot underneath the stadium bleachers, of Mac staying late at his house and beating him for fifteen rounds of Killer Instinct just so he wouldn’t have to go home. Mac still looked at him that way, even when that Dennis and the Dennis he was now seemed lifetimes apart. 

“Boy, you’re gonna carry that weight, carry that weight a long time...”

Feet moving before he even made the conscious decision, Dennis slinked off the couch, feeling his way through the darkness until his fingers curled around Mac’s doorknob. Yes, maybe he’d done the scheme to make Mac happy, to spend time with him, to make-believe their friendship hadn’t taken a turn for the worst in recent years. Dennis knew he had to shoulder most of the blame, but perhaps it didn’t have to be that way. He was so tired of performing, so tired of playing a character that nobody, especially Mac, believed in anymore. And if Mac already knew him, truly knew him in the way that he had so long feared being known, then why play the character at all? 

Dennis assuredly but slowly creaked open Mac’s door, shuffling forward until he nearly tripped over the bare mattress. Mac was snoring, but the sound was familiar, and Dennis was suddenly tired enough to deal with it. He laid down as quietly as possible, but Mac’s cheap old mattress practically screamed beneath him, and Mac rolled over, eyes wide and stark white in the darkness, searching until he found Dennis’s face. 

“Den?” he asked. “What are you doing?” 

“Shhhh, go to sleep,” Dennis said, slipping his legs underneath Mac’s blanket. He curled his arms inward on his chest, contouring his body to fit around Mac’s shape without actually touching him. Mac didn’t protest, only sighed softly and inched just a bit closer. “The couch was killing my back,” Dennis whispered, and Mac chuckled. 

“Figured,” he yawned, rolling back over. Dennis’s eyes popped open, and he stared at the back of Mac’s head for a long moment before swallowing and letting out a little yawn himself. He released the tension he’d been holding since that morning in his jaw, and with the familiar scent of Mac’s hair gel on their shared pillow consuming him, sleep finally came. 

#iasip s14 #s14 spoilers #the gang gets romantic #iasip #it's always sunny in philadelphia #mac mcdonald #dennis reynolds #macdennis #macdennis fanfic #fanfiction #WOW #i'm uhhhh #idk what to say about this one #i just wanted to write some macdennis shit for abbey road's 50th anniversary ig #anyways stan macdennis #and stream abbey road!!!! #personal #lonely girl queue are my world

[macdennissurvivor]

their first time ❤️

#iasip #macdennis #dennis reynolds #mac mcdonald #what am i SAYING #why am i buying into these dogshit theories?! #but also #what if they’re NOT dogshit theories #beautiful stunning sexy amazing gorgeous powerful showstopping #i’m losing my goddamn mind #my timeline is on fire right now #a fire i don’t wanna put out i fear #it’s genuinely DOGSHITTT i cannot stress enough but i’m in my habitat you know? #anyways #stan macdennis or perish #emma’s textpost

[honey-and-vinegar-realty]

macdennis x the brobecks

#ill just apologize for that last one now #anyway stan the brobecks #they're exremely underrated #the brobecks #macdennis #macden #mac mcdonald #dennis reynolds #It's always sunny in philadelphia #It's always sunny #iasip

[babeymac]

I think macden stans rly need to make peace with the fact that macdennis a) might never ~happen~ and b) could happen in a way that people don’t like

#iasip #it's always sunny in philadelphia #macdennis #I say this as a stan #idk I just think it’s important to lower your expectations and also chill #also it’s not homophobic for them to not get together IMO #anyway idk why I’m tagging this I have no desire to discuss

[macdentrash]

Your tainted love post changed my life oh my god........i can never listen to this song in any other way now

Ugh I can’t either after I thought about it... especially the line “you think love is to pray but I’m sorry I DONT PRAY THAT WAY” ... macdennis rights

#anyway soft cell stans macdennis cant change my mind #asks

[zolusbian]

south park vs. sunny: the politics of canon gay representation

here are some thoughts on south park canon gay couple vs. iasip macdennis, which is something maybe only i am interested in because for some reason despite (or perhaps because?) of who i am as a person i am attracted to these awful dudebro fandoms that have been largely dominated by women online.

so south park has creek, craig/tweek, and that’s canon and it’s been canon for a while. it started in a joke episode where they realized everybody was shipping them and they started fake dating, and now they’re just ... dating. they were adored by the fandom beforehand for a number of reasons that aren’t relevant to discuss here, but like, fuck, i don’t know, if you’re interested in Craig And Tweek Scholarship hit me up cause im diong this instead of my actual real grad school stuff now. anyway, so craig and tweek occupy that liminal enlightened centrism space that south park loves, where they’re a joke and not a joke. they’re a joke because it’s “lol they got together bc gay fanart drawn by asian girls [real plot line of the episode, btw]” and it’s not a joke because despite that, it’s played straight and like a nice little relationship, and then that in itself is a joke, because it’s subversion and matt and trey want to subvert. 

the thing, though, is that matt and trey don’t want to break the status quo too much; again, go read somebody else for more in-depth discussion on south park politics, but we all know the “centrist”/individualistic/libertarian ideology it largely purports. so, yes, craig/tweek is matt and trey going, gay representation! but craig and tweek are extremely minor characters. they are not part of the main 4 (main 5, if you count butters.) the other big fandom ship is stan and kyle -- the stand-in characters for the creators. they have oodles of subtext and development and close bonds and a giant fan following. matt and trey will never touch that, i am betting you right now. and for a show like south park, that’s fine; despite their claim of subverting your expectations, you know they’re never going to cross that line. that creates sort of a neat little fandom space, where possibility is infinite and you can check your expectations. also the show is about cardboard cut outs of 10 year olds. 

sunny claims a similar space to south park in the cultural milieu, and there’s a lot of overlap between the fans of both. i think sunny is a more intelligent show than south park, though. i think rcg take much more care with their product than matt and trey. i mean, that’s literally true -- south park pushes out episodes in 5 days about Topic Of The Week and sunny has an extremely tight continuity that’s unusual among sitcoms and television in general. so, when sunny is about subverting expectations, sunny is about subvering expectations. they teach things to as an extreme of conclusion, jokes-wise, as south park, and we can talk all day about What The Darkest Joke is on either (faking a funeral for a dead baby? feeding somebody their parents in a bowl of chili? who knows!) but again, not the point. 

when sunny gives us macdennis, sunny gives us macdennis as serious in so far that their relationship is not treated as the joke, but rather them as individuals and how they make that relationship function. it’s not canon -- yet. we have to wait to see how the rest of the show plays out, but based on s14e01 alone, i’m putting all my chips into the “it’s canon” pile even if we never get a direct (or as direct as this) discussion of macdennis again. because sunny is a smart show, and everybody’s already talked about all the meta (this is the point where i would be adding, like, citations and shit, if this were Real Academia.) unlike craig/tweek above, the set-up of the relationship is not and never is the joke. it’s always treated very seriously, with comedy coming in either 1) their natural banter (same within a romantic context as outside it); 2) frank and charlie set up as foils (i’ve discussed this myself; see wargelf, 2019, /tagged/sunny meta) or 3) the results of their stupid actions. when dennis and mac function in a space together, the emotional beats are real. think about the rpg scene: yes, the joke is that dennis wanted an rpg. that the rest of the gang has the wtf look on their faces. that for once the crate did contain something. but mac and dennis in that scene are completely, and totally earnest. when mac panics about the missing rocket, it’s not played as a typical sunny miscommunication cringe comedy moment; that’s real desperation in his voice and you feel bad, and dennis’s reaction of not caring and still loving the gift is reassuring and surprising on a character level. sunny uses the mac/dennis relationship as framing for jokes, working from a sincere emotional background and establishment, rather than the macdennis relationship itself as a joke. south park does that somewhat, but the difference is that mac and dennis are main characters, were started as author stand-ins, and have never had that “lol gay” build up in the first place that craig and tweek have. mac and dennis are in many ways the two main characters, the two characters around which all of sunny spins. their being emotionally/romantically/intimately/whatever involved is as much as a defining trait as mac being catholic or dennis having a twin sister: a part of their character that functions separately, but amplifies and adds to, the comedy.

in conclusion, sunny handles gay representation even without a direct canon “mac and dennis are in gay love and regularly have sex” better and with more nuance than south park could ever hope to. both are important, of course, and both are revolutionary, but because sunny is a smarter and better show, sunny’s taking it to a level that supersedes subversion and instead becomes art.

#text post #iasip #it's always sunny in philadelphia #macdennis #sunny meta #wrote this pretty much to calm myself down from a panic attack so idk if it makes any sense but whateevr

[globrights]

iasip s3 rated by macdennis content

The Gang Finds a Dumpster Baby: Dennis chides Mac for littering and not caring about the environment... Mac agrees to check out the global warming movie he watched bc Dennis kept talking about it even though everyone else was annoyed by it... they really are in love huh. 5.5/10

The Gang Gets Invincible: Mac and Dennis decide to try out for the Eagles because they want to figure out who’s the better football player. “Lincoln Field, baby!” This should be a generic ‘Two Bros Compete Over Sports Thing’ plot but Mac and Dennis are like... really gay about it. They mock Dee together for wanting to try out too and they’re being very misogynistic but the way they laugh at her is so cute. Mac leans in very closely to Dennis’ face when talking about how Dee could embarrass them in terms of running stamina. Mac and Dennis have a whole conversation with their dicks out as they stand over the Lincoln Field and Mac looks at... he looks at Dennis’ dick and asks him if he’s done peeing. And Dennis says no because Mac standing next to him and talking to him makes him nervous,,, okay,,, Mac and Dennis bicker over Mac’s makeup skills and Dennis’ cheekbones. Mac and Dennis sit together on the bus. They’re cutely excited about getting to see Donovan McNabb (even though they don’t) and they’re both... so bad at running. We stan unfit losers who cant even run for ten minutes!! “I liked your form on that, and I liked how you went before the whistle.” “Goddamn right!” “Nice!” Jesus Christ do these two even remember they’re supposed to be competing? Dennis essentially verbally sucked Mac’s dick for tackling his sister and told him he liked his FORM I know I quoted that but like... y’all seeing this... Also can we talk about how Dennis had this running monologue going on while he was running in the field to catch a football was this: “I’m going to make Mac look so bad. My form is perfect–“ like why is Mac always his first thought like it came before his narcissistic thoughts AND his throwaway comp het thought... sigh... 9/10

Dennis and Dee’s Mom is Dead: Mac and Dennis not realizing how gay they are is so fucking funny... Mac banging everyone’s sister but also calling them gross? Comp het rights! Dennis talking to men trying to invite them over to their party is literal actual flirting and he is so stupid for it. “Bro, aw, I just had the most perfect blonde guy slip right through my fingers. I mean, I had him in the palm of my hand and then... he was gone, you know what I mean? I mean, this guy would have been perfect for you. What’s up with this beefcake? Is he coming to the party, or what?” I can’t believe Dennis told Mac this. This sounds literally like they’re gays trying to find love in this world. Give me a break maybe!! Mac and Dennis having no idea that they were waving around a dick flyer that they literally cut themselves is peak metaphor for how in denial about their sexualities they were. Mac and Dennis get up to PEAK gay activity during their party because of how excessively Dennis touches Mac, he literally says “oh yeah, baby, nice one!” when Mac punches a glass frame, breaking it, and taking a random apple and biting into it. He’s so proud of Mac for the dumbest of shit. “You’re gonna tell everybody how we’re like those guys from Jackass, how we like to smash stuff and shove shit up our asses.” “That’s right! You’re gonna get so much shit shoved up your ass tonight!” Oh my god? Oh my god! Nothing says love like throwing knives at college students and basically putting them through emotional and physical torture! That’s just how it is! The symbolism and just everything in this episode pushes this up to a shocking 8.5/10

The Gang Gets Held Hostage: “Come here, come here, come here! I think I got a plan to get us out of this, but I need you to do the destroying thing. Can you?” “I’m a great destroyer.” “Are you kidding me, dude? You’re a born smasher.” “Yes! I’m a born smasher.” “I’m gonna work a different angle with the girl.” “Work those pecs.” “Yeah, exactly.” “Bump it.” “All right.” “Dennis.” “What?” “I love you.” 9/10

The Aluminum Monster Vs. Fatty McGoo: The whole “Dennis has an announcement!” scene is so cute and so funny. Other than that though, Mac and Dennis don’t get up to much, but Dennis does lie to him about dress orders which pushes Mac into Frank’s arms where he learns how to run a sweatshop. 4/10

The Gang Solves the North Korea Situation: Dennis wearing Mac’s duster with no shirt and the way Mac was staring at him? Good shit! 7/10

The Gang Sells Out: Mac and Dennis both somehow managed to get each half of Charlie’s shares in the bar. Charlie gets confused between ‘wood’ and ‘wooed’ and when Dennis tries to explain it to him Mac gives him a little “Dennis, just...” and Dennis goes “It’s a waste of time?” and like. That’s just really domestic of them actually. 6/10

Frank Sets Sweet Dee On Fire: Nothing v specific here but Mac calls Dennis a ‘club kid’ which is cute. 2/10

Sweet Dee’s Dating A Person: “You do have a great voice. You have, you know what man? You have an excellent voice.” The look of absolute BETRAYAL Dennis gives Mac when he doesn’t let him be in his band... wow. “We need a new front man.” “Right. You want someone with a good voice.” “Yes.” “Who’s attractive.” “Yes.” “Someone with charisma.” “Yes.” Somehow they both bottomed in this scene and Dennis wearing glasses is so fucking stupid. This episode would’ve gotten a perfect score if Mac didn’t kick Dennis out of the band for having slutty hips. Mac, those slutty hips are everything you’ve ever wanted in life. Wake up. 9.5/10

Mac is a Serial Killer: Dennis seems to REALLY take notice when it comes to Mac’s comings and goings from the apartment... His reactions to Mac getting laid seems like fake enthusiasm to me :/ 3/10

Dennis Looks Like a Registered Sex Offender: “Listen, I need your help, okay? You’re part owner of the bar, and you’re probably the only person that Mac listens to, and I need you to talk to him.” God Dee really out here knowing the truth huh. She really out here knowing everything, huh? 7/10

The Gang Gets Whacked Part 1: Mac and Dennis the cute little work couple who tries to fix the electricity and both having differing but wrong opinions about how to do it! Mac and Dennis the cute little work couple who ditch work to sit outside their bar in lawn chairs and drink beer together! Mac and Dennis the dumbass work couple who can’t understand the things people say to them because they drink a lot! 9/10

The Gang Gets Whacked Part 2: Mac slaps Dennis and rescues him from his life of prostitution. Wow that’s like a line straight from a very weird mafia AU. 7/10

Bums Making a Mess All Over the City: The way Dennis looks at Mac when he says “In fact, Special Agent Bauer and I plan to take care of a few things today...” Mm... Conspiring with your boyfriend and twin sister while holding your cat as you plan to take down your dad truly is the life huh. 5/10 because it was a great fucking look

The Gang Dances Their Asses Off: One of the most ridiculous things in this episode is the fact that Frank ranked Dennis and Mac second and third best after himself. Some other ridiculous things? Mac and Charlie’s talk about Mac’s... cream... which led to Mac saying this golden line “I’m always putting my cream all over his face.” Mac and Dennis have a dance off where Mac mimes himself sucking Dennis off. Repressed rights! It’s a crime that we didn’t get to see Mac and Dennis slow dance this episode, but still I’m gonna give it a 10/10, especially because Dennis and Mac had 25 pound kegs hanging off their chests and Dennis said “Come on, man! Give me some of that liquid hydraulic shit!” it sounds dirty somehow, anyway, Dennis wrapped his arms around Mac and they both fell to the ground. Very sexy.

#text #iasip #macdennis #its always sunny in philadelphia #rated

[transgirlcharlie]

Similarities between IASIP and South Park

• the "offensiveness"

both of these shows are extremely offensive and because of this, they aren't for everyone.

they both express things in extreme way cos matt, trey & rcg (also i think those 5 are similar and would be friends) don't give a shit. that can be a bad and good thing. they both have rly bad pasts, but have learned from them.

also you have to be smart to actually understand what these shows are saying with the offensiveness.

• the friendships

this is mainly just cartman's friendship to everyone else in sp, because he's the only real bad character in the main 4. but his relationships with the main 4 are very similar to the gang's relationship to each other.

he's a bad person. and he doesn't like them, but he also does. he treats them bad. but hangs out with them because no one else would agree to be his friend. that's basically the gang.

• macdennis vs kyman

this is the thing that started off me seeing the similarities. personally because my relationship with these two ships are very similar. (i didn't ship either of them btw)

this is mostly speculation and personal view. but if you agree they hate and love each other (in a way) in both ships, then that's basically what this is about.

macdennis & kyman both have one really bad person in it (cartman & dennis, ik mac is bad too but nothing compared to him) that treats the other one (kyle & mac) poorly. while they still have some sort of feelings for the other that they hide in unhealthy ways (literally abuse). and the other part of the ship (kyle&mac) also have some sort of feelings for them but also resentment.

yes, they both have some sort of feelings for each other. but that relationship would be unhealthy and they shouldn't get together.

• lgbt+ representation

the two shows are also similar in the way they have lgbt+ representation. south park have a lot of gay characters and (obviously) mac is canonly gay in sunny.

the bathroom problem episode is similar to the sp episode 'cissies'.

both episodes discussed the issue of bathrooms when it came to what is the correct way to deal with them regarding trans issues.

also in that south park episode, characters such as stan and butters weren't sure which bathroom they belonged to (male, female or other). which is similar to charlie being confused about what gender he is. "and I'm...?"

(you could also compare cartman's pretending to be trans to go in the girls bathroom to charlie wearing a dress to pee in the girl's bathroom. but imo i think cartman was being 100% malicious and im pretty sure charlie isn't cis anyway)

and extra part of this is the way they both have gender nonconforming characters. for example, butters has worn female clothing in his own time & dennis wears makeup a lot. not lgbt+ per say, but definitely a step in the right direction.

• mac's sexuality journey vs craig & tweek's

the episodes mac fights gay marriage, mac finds his pride and tweek vs craig & tweek x craig/put it down parallel each other.

they both start of 'fighting' something and then they eventually accept themselves and they are now open about who they are.

little extra stuff:

• charmac vs style: idk, theyre both the 'best friends (since childhood) to lovers' trope. i love them.

• different fans: some aren't smart enough to understand the actual message behind the episode and they watch it because they find the offensive funny. can also be called dudebros. both also have a large lgbt fanbase.

• they also tackle a lot of issues that normally shows would avoid because they just, don't care. (gun crime, trans issues, etc)

#i made this post to say yall should watch south park cos if u like sunny. you'll like it #i literally wrote an essay explaining why #actually the reason i made this is because. i was writing it in my head anyway and #might as well write it now #it down* #and might as well post it #i don't ship macpenis or kymann btw #also both of these shows have ran for a longgggg time. idk probably says something #anyways i love south park just as much as i love sunny that's pretty obvious tho #my south park blog is aceenbykyle btw #but i never go on that it has like 2 followers lol #i wanted this to be longer but this is so long already. so im gonna stop while i can. #sorryyyy #south park #iasip #it's always sunny in philadelphia #sp #personal #in conclusion watch south park #its 4:28am so if theres any mistakes sorry i can't read #i literally couldnt fit all the lgbt+ rep in south park. the new game has lloads

[bastardreynolds]

a macdennis music analysis #1

a close reading of song lyrics that remind me of macdennis, served piping hot to your doorstep whether you asked for it or not. at least i had the courtesy to put this under a keep reading break

Strange Diseases - Gang of Youths

welcome to my TEDtalk, Strange Diseases is a song about mac and dennis being fucked up assholes in love.

verse one is their mutual refusal to really acknowledge each other’s emotions and justifications for loving each other (”but who am i to try, deciphering those secret reasons”. 

additionally, it covers their delusion that the rest of the world are in the wrong (”hey, all the neighbours think we’re strange”) and makes reference to the litany of mental health problems both mac and dennis have that preclude them from living life like normal functional people (”the strains, of living with our strange diseases”) 

verse two is where this song gets really juicy

“i filled my pockets full of change” is both literal and metaphorical. literally, this is gay rich mac winning what he thinks will be a lot of money, but actually ends up being pocket change. metaphorically this is mac’s journey of coming out of the closet, and generally changing as a person and learning to accept himself. similarly, this is dennis “big feelings” reynolds admitting that he feels shit and experiencing some (dare i say it?) change and character development 

“you took my father’s name” is what it sounds like. we stan ronald reynolds. 

the next few lines refer to paddy’s, “a run-down, one-hope place.” while it’s a toxic environment (”incendiary charms”) it makes them both, and the gang more broadly, feel alive (”it’s a factory of life”) 

i know no one asked for this analysis but u got it anyway

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#macdennis #iasip #mine #no one asked for this

[ashwayssunny]

idk why we’re all surprised that mac rubs dennis’s pecs the man’s nipples got hard and he sought out mac IMMEDIATELY to have him rub them for an unnecessarily long time this is an Established Practice for those gay bastards

#iasip #it’s always sunny in philadelphia #iasip s14 #s14 spoilers #the gang texts #mac mcdonald #dennis reynolds #macdennis #anyway that episode was gay and i wasn’t even expecting any gay content #and yet..... #thank u rob and charlie #i’m convinced charlie is the number 1 macden stan he’s the one behind it #text post #personal #lonely girl queue are my world

[keanurise]

anyway here's a list of things i ship/stan

i got new followers n i wanna let yall know what i post about it's always sunny in philadelphia: -macdennis -dennis reynold's in general - listen i lov charlie, dee n frank but my head is just gonna be MACDENNIS MACDENNIS for the next 50000 years srry buffy the vampire slayer: -anti xander, anti spuffy, riley's a bitch -i love giles n buffy n faith n oz -dont u dare slander dawn or tara or angel near me ever -tara x willow, willow x oz, bangel, fuffy community: -no i love every single character -all of their relationships with each other are so important dont u dare say any different -i mostly talk about jeff & abed as characters -ships i discuss most are jeff x annie & troy x abed -BUT EVERY SINGLE CHARACTER IS SO RELEVANT I COULD TALK ABOUT THIS ALLD AY mcu & x-men: -the only mcu character i talk about is bucky tbh -i never shut up about x-men -cherik & stevebucky own my ass -i love logan so much -ororo's my gf and jean can turn me to dust -the original xmen movies >>> current trilogy -that bein said i love james mcavoy -charles deserves the world hannibal: -HANNIGRAM CAN FUCK ME RIGHT UP -I am very passionate about my love for will graham -okay no i occasionally post about /hannigram/ its mostly just will -i love every single female character on this show they all deserve more recognition as characters brooklyn nine-nine: -i talk about the importance of this show so much -like everything about it -just why people should watch it -mostly about rosa diaz and her bisexuality bc shes my wife crazy ex girlfriend: -i love greg serrano fucking fight me -no literally everything about this show is important but Greg -greg x heather was so good im still so distraught supernatural: -i only care about deancas, spn can choke lol bbc sherlock: -this tv show ruined my life -i only care about johnlock lol until dawn: -josh x chris mm yes -JOSH WASHINGTON DESERVED SO MUCH BETTER -i love josh & sam so much but mostly josh ya feel -i fuckijnnfjf hate ashley dont get me started -unpop opinion but lmao emily >>>> ashley the 100: -this is only here bc i love murphy & raven -im still so upset about clexa -bellarke is boring as shit i am not standing for this -jonty is cute too ig even tho im not too fond of jasper (lov my boy monty tho!)

#it's always sunny in philadelphia #macdennis #community #jeff x annie #troy x abed #brooklyn nine nine #rosa diaz #x-men #cherik #mcu #stevebucky #the 100 #jonty #clexa #until dawn #josh x chris #crazy ex girlfriend #greg serrano #hannibal #will graham #bbc sherlock #johnlock #supernatural #deancas #buffy the vampire slayer #bangel #tara x willow #willow x oz #fuffy

[cosmoseinfeld]

For the ask meme - wait a minute how did you turn the question numbers into letters, WITCHCRAFT! Well, okay: E (do you ship anything?), L (which cast member is your favorite?), P (how do you think the show is going to end?)

WHAT i didn’t do that lmaooo what’s happeninggg ahaha. anyway: ship: macdennis wheeeee (and a bit dee x waitress) cast: love them all equally but for reasons i do not know i became a glenn stan :/ ending: hm... i certainly hope nobody dies. I just want to see the gang together pls, they only have each other :’) . i think to me, for my own personal closure, it would just be the gang and the bar, having a laugh together, drinking beer, same old same old and a fade out, like the ending of “high school reunion” (”You know what? Let's just go back to the bar. The bar's where we belong. The bar's where we fit in. We can hide from the world at the bar.“) or “squashes their beefs” (”We don't need to get along with anybody else - we got each other”) i guess. (oh but ofc, canon macdennis ehehe.)

#iasip #always sunny #ask meme #macdennis

[macdentrash]

I STAN all of the macdennis/broke back comparisons I’ve been seeing lately because I literally made this blog to make a post about that and here I am, somehow still surviving in this cruel world RCG has built! Anyway goodnight to sluts only🤧

#im serious my 1st post is about this #the sunny hivemind exists man #and yes i know i didnt think of it im not dumb its just really funny that we all Go There #iasip

[macdentrash]

what do you think will happen with macdennis this season?👀

WARNING: I went off on this I’m sorry, I’m just a passionate macdennis stan trying to make a living in this cold cold world

I honestly don’t know and it’s got me all stressed lmao but I can give u my absolute best hot take👀*warning I’m about to go off* so let’s start at the beginning of s13 to look at the dynamic™… so we’ve obviously got Mac sad with Dennis gone, Dennis left a number for a mental health clinic and Mac’s gotten as he says “super ripped” which probably has something to do with his body issues (esp in relation to Dennis and his masculinity). Anyways we obviously have MAC getting a fucking sex doll of Dennis and when Dee asks him if it’s Dennis he’s just like “Yeah? Of course” like who else would it be? But even MORE interesting is the fact that Cindy tells Mac she wanted him to start dating to fill the void losing Dennis left in his life… like at this point it’s just obvious that Mac is DEEPLY in love with Dennis and that just keeps us wondering if Dennis reciprocates. In the strip club scene during ep 1, Mac just seems mad at Dennis (”Dennis is a bastard man!”) and encourages the gang to try to move on (this is important to my theory so hold onto that my dudes) which means that Mac has the potential to get over Dennis eventually if he gets to that point of frustration... but either way when Dennis comes back Mac is still all like :’) all smiley and happy, and Dennis is looking at Mac like That™ and immediately makes a comment on Mac’s appearance. So after the first episode it’s still like... what’s the fuckin VIBE RCG hmm? Because I didn’t know what was gonna happen after that first episode but hopeful because even those few seconds they were interacting were so...gay... like wtf and then they come for MY SCALP in MY HOUSE by BLASTING the BOYS ARE  BACK IN TOWN? 

Lmao...anyways after the fucking chaotic nut bust that was s13 ep1 I was really keeping an eye on episode 2 for the Macdennis vibe of the season because ya girl did NOT know what to expect. And what do they do? HMM? They let Megan Ganz clear my skin and feed my crops by giving us the fuckin Sherlock based Macdennis au we never really asked for but desperately needed (mostly because of the fuckin pipes they have later cuz that shit is so funny to me)... anyways episode two was gay, we know this. Like? They kept looking at each other like That, the fuckin HEART LOCK (there was absolutely no reason that it needed to be heart shaped, RCG explain), fuckin “let’s keep this between us”, “the game is afoot”. Woo hoo anyways, they were just acting like they used to and it was nice okay? Also the Denny’s t-shirt and Dennis looking at Mac all love sick at the end when they go see Dee... 

So after episode 2 I’m like okay GAY, it’s gay folks! That’s the vibe! And I was so ready for Time’s Up because at that point all we’d really seen was Dennis with the UGLY up on the projector and them sitting next to each other like That. So originally I thot that it was just gonna be like a low-key Macdennis ep and I so ready for that and just seeing the gang all together... and then Megan Ganz came for us all and TIMES UPPED the gang and we were all so shook. Megan Ganz giveth and Megan Ganz taketh away as they say. I know this episode is NOT about shipping but this post is and so I’m gonna analyze, don’t come for me. So Dennis obviously told Mac to “stop kissing him” (which is different from saying “stop TRYING to kiss me” but anyway) and that it “was never gonna happen”. Mac looked hurt but seemed to be ok, he still called Dennis out on that fucking picture (”what year was that taken?!”) and was still joking around at the end. So i was obviously fuckin SHOOK by this whole thing and was really excited to see what happened in New Wheels because I felt like their dynamic could go in any direction @ that point.

Wow this is long but I’m already this far so :) let’s keep it rollin (get it? like WHEELS? I’m here all week folks). So at the beginning of New Wheels Dennis is obviously trying to get the gang to talk to him about going to ND and nobody really seems interested. What I thought was interesting was the camera angle, for the majority of the time Dennis is talking the camera only shows Mac and Dennis in the frame, it almost looks like they could be alone? Which is not a mistake, there has to be some reason they edited it that way. But more importantly Dennis is saying like “I appreciate you respecting my privacy by dancing around the subject” etc and he keeps looking at Mac. Also when Dennis says “you guys want to ask about my family” Mac’s just like “I don’t” which is what Dennis deserves tbh. Anyways Mac kind of seems to be keeping his distance from Dennis in this episode which is interesting after the events of Times Up, maybe Mac’s just listening to what Dennis wants, he’s backing off maybe? I don’t know but when they’re in the car dealership Mac and Charlie leave in the middle of a conversation with Dennis to go look for bikes and Dennis looks a little confused (again it’s what he deserves). Later, when Charlie asks Mac why he doesn’t do better, as in find someone to date, Mac just says “it’s hard out there”. I want to focus on this because um? Mac’s fuckin built and looks like a fuckin walking ray of sunshine so I don’t think it’d be that difficult for him to find someone, just saying. Is it hard out there for him because he’s in love with Dennis? Yeah, probably. Mmmm moving on, Mac and Dennis aren’t together again until the end of the episode and Dennis is all happy and singing Rick Astley, he still gave make a Look through the mirror and all seemed to end well.

WOW so based on all this evidence I’ve brought to you in this Paddy’s Pub tonight, this folks is my theory:

Mac and Dennis will be ok and probably acting like good friends™ in The Gang solves the bathroom problem. Probably no major developments but most likely some pure macdennis content. I think things will get more intense in the Superbowl episode. And I know what you’re going to say: “But Kaitlin... it’s a flash back episode so Dennis probably won’t be in it” and to that I reply that with Charlie gone they will be down to 3 members of the gang so I feel like Dennis is going to pop up at some point. He probably won’t be there in the beginning but maybe half way through? Idk. I love the idea that Mac and Dennis get caught on the kiss cam and they just do it cuz fuck it but Dennis is way too into it for it to just be like a “haha i kissed my gay friend on tv lol” kind of moment so he freaks out (which could go back to Times up and Dennis saying “stop kissing me” etc). 

Now! For Mac Finds His Pride I have some BIG IDEAS folks. So Frank is going to try to get Mac a man and Mac might be hesitant at first but warm up to the idea. How I picture it going down in my mind’s eye (yes, my 3rd eye is open) is: Mac is at the bar flirting with a good looking guy and they’re talking/laughing, standing really close and leaning in to each other (sound familiar?). Dennis is having fun at the party they’re having in the bar for pride (boys are out tonight huh?) until he turns around and freezes when he sees Mac and this dude. His face just goes stone cold and he is the embodiment of a jealous gay (think of the gang misses the boat and all of his mascara Dennis glory). The guy leans closer in to Mac and looks like he might kiss him, now Dennis can’t let that happen can he? So he goes over to the bar and just goes “hey Mac!”, Mac spins around and Dennis does some gay shit right then and there either kissing him (I think I would have a heart attack if that actually happened though) or giving him some “I HAVE BIG FEELINGS” type speech. Either way BOOM Macdennis is canon. This is how they leave it for the season and we’re all forever shook to the core.

Now, I know that it becoming canon wouldn’t fix their toxicity and problems but that’s for season 14 me to analyze (we’ll hope anyways!).

*DISCLAIMER: if you got this far, I love you and we can all get through this trying time together*

#asks #this is so fukin long I'm SORRY #macdennis #iasip #this is over 1.5k words i need help