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crysisjustcrys · 2 years
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Cypress
This drawing is based on the flower language (花言葉) of Cypress--Death and mourning. It also loosely referenced the Greek mythology of Cyparissus turning into said tree after he accidentally killed his own beloved stag. The tree continues to bleeds sap, a symbol of Cyparissus asking Apollo to let his tears fall forever.
Oh and also I've draw this according to @/Choodraw 's style which is super cool! (Their art contains a lot of softcore gore and some tasteful stuffs so check it out only if you are ok with these)
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clasassist · 4 years
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Hi, I have a few questions to ask, I hope you won't mind: 1) In what age group does Hyacinthus fall? Because I think some mortals like Ganymede were very young hence fitted a pederastic relationship well, but Hyacinth seemed to be a little older? 2) is it true that the death of Apollo's male lovers represented their passage into adulthood? 3) what evidence do we have of Hyacinthus' resurrection and his godly life with Apollo?
Hello.
1) the Ancient Greek males were classified based on their age and their class as:
Paides : pre pubescent boys, but it was not uncommon to call boys under 18 years as paides
Meirakia : those who "cannot go back to being boys", meaning 18 year olds who can attain citizenship. So boys in young adulthood.
Neaniskoi : they are synonymous with meirakia, but neaniskoi usually belong to elite classes. In some regions, neaniskos was a boy of 19 years.
Kouroi/Epheboi : again, boys of 18 - 19 years, but they were under military training.
Andres : they were men above 20, divided again into neoi (20-30) and presbutai (30+).
Since we don't have age for Hyacinthus and Ganymedes mentioned anywhere, we should resort to their depictions ancient art forms, mostly vase paintings, where everyone except Andres were beardless.
Even though most of pederastic relationships were between a youth and an adult man (who was much older), sometimes it also happened between youths with age difference of a couple of years. The example is Apollo and Hyacinthus. Apollo is definitely an ephebe/neaniskos. As for Hyacinthus, he is at least a neaniskos, looking at his depictions (athletic body + shorter hair). But considering the fact that paintings/statues of bearded Hyacinthus have recorded by Philostratus and Pausanias, he may even be an andres, thus belonging to an age group which is older than what Apollo represents. Even though there is a lack of significant age gap, this pair can be classified as pederastic because of the mentor - mentee relationship that existed between them. (Apollo mentored Hyacinthus in music, archery and divination)
Ganymedes doesn't seem to have been very young either. Have a look at him.
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He is beardless in but he is as tall as Zeus, even his body proportions are almost similar. In one has long hair, and in another one short hair. This strongly suggests that he was mostly a meirakos. Zeus - Ganymede fit perfectly into the frame of pederasty because of the age gap between them (one is meirakos and one is presbutos). After all, that pair is the prototype (according to Plato) pederastic relationship which men later followed.
2) I have come across the interpretation that death of Apollo's boyfriends signified their departure from his domain (youth) and entry into adulthood. However, there's no such statement in any literary sources, and that interpretation has some major flaws: 1) Apollo presided over safe and healthy transition into adulthood. And for death to symbolise transition into adulthood would make no sense because, well, the person is dead. He's not alive to live as an adult anymore. 2) only 2 of Apollo's male lovers died young, and majority of them made it into their adulthood safely and happily. Hyacinthus was resurrected as a god. That would leave only Cyparissus as the one who died and stayed dead. And In my opinion, one example is not sufficient to come to such a conclusion.
3) The event of Hyacinthus' resurrection was carved on the throne of Apollo at Amyclea, where Hyacinthus and his sister Polyboia are seen being carried to Olympus by Aphrodite, Artemis and Athena. During the festival Hyacinthia, which was the most important festival of Spartans, people sang the chant "Apollo brought back his long-haired Hyacinthus". So we can be sure that he was indeed given the status of god. And even though his cults were restricted to Sparta, Amyclea and Lacedonia, greeks from various regions, including Athens, Cyrene etc, acknowledged Hyacinthia. Unfortunately, we don't have clear details about what he was the god of, but we can draw some conclusions about the nature of his divinity. Most of the scholars who've researched on this topic are of the opinion that historically Hyacinthus was an older, chthonic vegetation god. However, after the advent of the cults of Apollo in Amyclea, Hyacinthus' status was changed to a mortal, who then died at the hands of Apollo and again regained his godly status through Apollo. Historians believe that this indicated the merging of the cults of both the gods, and I second that. Even though he was syncretised with Apollo, he was still worshipped as a separate deity, as a hero-deity (like Heracles and Dionysus). So after Hyacinthus was merged with Apollo, it would be natural for him to assume the same roles Apollo had in Sparta - vegetation and youth. Actually there's more I can talk about it but it'll mostly be irrelevant here, so I'll make a separate post about Hyacinthus and his associations. As for the myths, sadly there is literally nothing concerning his life as a god.
Sources for descriptions of the age groups -
Goldhill, S. and Osborne, R. Eds. "Rethinking Revolutions Through Ancient Greece"
Grubbs, J. E., Parkin, T. and Bell, Roslynne Eds. "The Oxford Handbook of Childhood and Education in the Classical World"
Mattern, Susan P., "Galen and the Rhetoric of Healing"
Ogden, Daniel Eds. "A Companion to Greek Religion"
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urutt · 5 years
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i was tagged by @leucomalachite
name: junichi! ppl call me moomin sometimes tho
birthday: feb 7
zodiac: aquarius sun, leo moon, virgo rising
height: 5’2
hobbies: art, writing, general crafts
favourite colour(s): jewel tones! eggplant, goldenrod, emerald, ruby, maroon, etc
favourite book(s): 👁 p- uh.... percy jackson................. but also aristotle and dante discover the secrets of the universe! surprise, i never read
last song i listened to: i’m listening to woodland by the paper kites as i write this
last movie i watched: i don’t watch a lot of movies, maybe jack and the cuckoo clock heart?
inspiration: nature! cottagecore stuff.. really lengthy and romantic descriptions of people or places, mythology of all sorts but mostly greek! love... i Love love.. it’s crazy..
dream job: an art teacher! probably high school or elementary, maybe middle if i had to 🤷🏻‍♂️
inspiration for my url: the story of hyacinthus! one of apollo’s lovers, a guy.. so it’s gay and related to apollo like a lot of my usernames and urls sksksks my ig username for my main is kypariss0s like cyparissus, another one of apollo’s lovers
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