#frozen theory

[galaxygolfergirl]

What does Elsa want?

Since I’ve been on a bit of a Frozen binge recently, I was having some thoughts:

If anyone’s been in the Frozen fandom for as long as I have, we’ve all wondered whether Elsa would ever become attached to someone. The early Jelsa shippers, Helsa (which I do ship, I have my reasons, don’t @ me), #giveelsaagirlfriend trending on twitter, the newer Elsamaren shippers, and so on. Ever since Disney realized the franchise potential of this story, that's been the big question brought up for the past decade.

I will say I can definitely understand the perception of Elsa being aromantic/asexual because honestly, think about it: considering her past struggles with controlling her powers and her fear of hurting those she loves, it’s probably very difficult for her to be vulnerable with other people, even platonically with her own family. If she was that uncomfortable being around others and trying to manage her issues, how uncomfortable is she with being in love? Being desired? Wanting to be with someone?

No matter what options they go with for her in the 3rd sequel, it might be an interesting perspective to see this more vulnerable side of Elsa, if they choose to give her a romantic partner, because for the past two movies we’ve only gotten the perspective of her focusing on herself. She wanted to learn the truth of who she was and to make her peace with it, no longer denying her magical abilities or trying to shove them down out of fear. She wanted to reconnect with her sister and try to have a family again. But what does Elsa want for herself beyond that? Who can really stand on her level and approach her?

In spite of her connections with her sister and the rest of her family, there is still a level of unapproachability to her because of the dissonance between her humanity and the almost mythic nature of her powers. Even though Anna loves her sister, we can observe that even she struggles sometimes to understand Elsa’s powers, especially her role as the Snow Queen/the 5th Spirit, and Anna falls back in awe of her like everyone else. It’s like this quote from the movie The Philadelphia Story (which is a great movie btw, highly recommend):

“You're like some marvelous, distant, well, queen, I guess. You're so cool and fine and always so much your own. There's a kind of beautiful purity about you, Tracy, like a statue.”

To which Katharine Hepburn’s character replies:

“I don't want to be worshipped. I want to be loved.”

Does Elsa want that kind of love? So far, the answer’s been a tentative “no,” at least from the writers and cast. Whether it's because of the potential conservative outcry or disappointing the lgbtq community yet again is anyone's guess, but for now I can only assume that leaving her unattached has been the safest option for Disney so far.

But since we’ve already crossed the threshold of Elsa’s self-acceptance and self-realization of her powers, where do we go beyond that in terms of her character? It’s only natural to wonder what she wants beyond understanding herself, being comfortable with her powers, and being accepted. She has a supportive family, is making friendships with the Northuldra, and has a kingdom that loves her, but does she stand alone or can someone meet her at her level? Romantically or otherwise? Who can challenge her, really?

Tracy Lord: "I don't seem to you made of bronze?"

Macaulay Connor: "No, you're made out of flesh and blood. That's the blank, unholy surprise of it. You're the golden girl, Tracy. Full of life and warmth and delight.”

Does she have to remain this mythic goddess that everyone admires, who has to have a dress transformation/inspiration anthem about self-actualization every movie? What if she had a moment where she was grounded and had to focus on something besides her powers? What if she lost them? How would that affect her character then?

Those are questions I hope might be answered in Frozen 3. I'm fine with whatever choices they make in terms of her sexuality, as precarious at that may be, but I just think it would be an interesting aspect of her character to explore whether or not she could have an equal, or whether or not she can finally come down to earth.

Tracy Lord: "How do I look?"

Seth Lord: "Like a queen. Like a goddess."

Tracy Lord: "And do you know how I feel?"

Seth Lord: "How?"

Tracy Lord: "Like a human. Like a human being.”

#frozen #frozen 2 #frozen 3 #queen elsa #disney #disneys frozen #frozen theory #queen anna #princess anna #prince hans #honeymaren #helsa #elsamaren #asexual #aromantic #queer #lesbian #lgbtq #allosexuality #heterosexual #literary analysis #film analysis #character analysis

[frozenpolishfangirl]

Theory : Hans's appearance Evolution in Disney California Adventure

So I don't know I was the only one who noticed this fact in Disney California Adventure park, but every time Hans appearances in some events or meets and greets, his appearance is more and more casual, rather than his typical royal style, probably suggesting his future redemption, or what's more possible now, his mental recovering, from trauma and memories of what he did in the past (altough Disney California Adventure suggest, that Hans still wants to canonically explore his new territories and raises an army, but I still think recovering theory is an better option than making Hans a forced villain again 🥴)

And the the changes we see in Hans's appearance in DCA, are his more and more shown neck, lastly shown more casual and plain tie, shorter sideburns and dark brown henna colored hair 👀

And all of these changes happened in the time of three different cast members playing Hans in DCA, and in only 3 months of him in Disney parks 👀

#Hans Westergaard #Prince Hans #Disney California Adventure #Oogie boogie Bash #Frozen theory #Redeem Hans #Post Frozen 2 #Mental recovering #Frozen

[horrorartist23]

Ok with Frozen 3 in the works alot of things can happen now and so many people theorize already.

I hope they dont pull a Httyd 3 on us. Let me explain.

Elsa lives in the enchanted forest and Athohallan and Anna lives in Arendell as Queen and they see each other on a regular bases. Wich is great!

But I kinda hope they wont get the idea to pull them apart for longer times just for story or because one thing happened.

It worked for Httyd 3. They were a bigger target and had to fear being attacked regularly. Not to mention with Hiccup bieng chief he has to protect his people aswell, not just the dragons. They cant protect them forever everyone gets older and even weaker over time.

I hope they wont do anything like this with Frozen it would ruin it a bit.

Yeah just a thought thanks for reading

#frozen 2 #frozen 3 #frozen 1 #i hope they dont do it #eventho gale could still be thier messenger #just a thought #just a theory #frozen theory

[questiontocertaintyofreality]

Disney-Frozen and Tangled Mirror Theory

A long time ago I read a theory explaining that the original Snow Queen's Magic Mirror was Disney's True Villain. I realized something today. Before I explain it, this theory holds that every Disney story has a "Magic Mirror as the real villain."

Now we all know that Tangled and Frozen take place in the same universe.

Because we saw Rapunzel and Eugene at Elsa's coronation. My theory depend on "the same universe" theory, i found another parallel. In the episode "A Tale Of Two Sisters" of Tangled the series, we saw that Gothel had a lot of mirrors and looked at them for days.

She has a collection. When Rapunze live in the tower we saw Gothel looks into the mirror in the tower and think about herself's beauty for hours. Arrogant. The mirror which Rapunzel when she first wore the crown. In the story of the Snow Queen, the Magic Mirror created by the trolls, then broken. The mirror falls to the earth, reaches people's hearts and eyes. What if the peace of the broken mirror enters the peace of ALL mirrors on earth ? Turn humans to peoples who look at all the beauty with selfishness and are unlogical suspicious of the earth and people. Feed their unreasonable feelings . When the Tale Of Two sisters happened Cassandra notice the mirrod which changed by Zhan Tiri then look at it. From the first time Cassandra saw her changed memories with Gothel, Cassandra believes that this is Rapunzel's trick before listening to Rapunzel. Even Rapunzel never leaves Cassandra in Gothel's place and they  looks at all the mirrors  together. The peace of Magic Mirror is in all mirrors. In yesterday's tomorrow's house there was a real mirror that turns people into their villains, yes Gothel is arrogant but this mirror feeds her. Cassandra doesn't trust Rapunzel but mirror feed it. If Cassandra doesn't trurst Rapunzel with no doubt why she feel she can be a team with Rapunzel and feel happiness when getting along with Rapunzel

Cassandra, I don't think the mirror turn her against Rapunzel and did all this. Cassandra's villain was realistic and amazing. Also Varian's

Then after all this, I found a Frozen - Tangled Parallel

The mirror feed Gothel's arrogant mind for years now shows Gothel's true self. Because it broken peace by peace

And

Second mirror in Arendelle's boat the boat Agnar and Iduna use to their search for Antohallan. What if Agnar look at this mirror and mirror covers the heart of Agnar with an unreasonable doubt about Elsa's power (reasonable doubt is an extremely useful thing, but it is unreasonable.....) and wants to keep Elsa a secret forever. He doesn't want to show Elsa to the world or make Elsa accept her powers. The Royal family of Arendelle had a fear of magic that influenced King Agnar in his childhood, but now it mirror reflects his fears.

If this theory is real, trolls have knowledge about the magic Mirror, but trolls are not evil. Even in this theory love can melt mirrors

I protect Eugune's mirrors Eugene never affected by mirror

#yesterday's tomorrow house #tangled the series theory #tangled theory #frozen theory #tts cassandra #rapunzel #frozen #tangled #tangled the series #king agnarr #queen iduna

[tiyasrocks]

A Random Frozen 3 Theory-

The Frozen movies are widely recognized for their exploration of self-discovery and personal growth, particularly in the context of young adulthood. In the first movie, Elsa embodies the struggles of a young adult who is grappling with her own identity and sense of self-worth. She experiences intense self-loathing and depression, which are common themes among those who are unable to control their emotions.

Meanwhile, Anna is portrayed as a sheltered and inexperienced teenager who is struggling to navigate the outside world. Her naivety and lack of experience make her vulnerable to manipulation, which is a common challenge for many young people who are learning to assert their independence.

By the end of the first movie, Elsa and Anna have both undergone significant personal growth. Elsa learns to accept herself, while Anna learns not to trust everyone she meets.

But, F1’s end comes with lot of questions like - “What happened to their parents ?” Or “Why does Elsa have power ?” 

 The unanswered questions from the first movie are addressed in the sequel, Frozen 2, which explores their characters even further.

Elsa's character development in F2 is particularly noteworthy, as she moves beyond self-acceptance to a deeper understanding of herself and her place in the world .She finally discovers herself (What comes after Self Acceptance ? Self-Discovery of course)

However, it is Anna's character development that truly shines in F2. In the previous film, she was often portrayed as a follower, constantly chasing after Elsa and putting her own needs aside. This dynamic is further explored in F2 as Anna continues to prioritize Elsa above all else, even leaving Kristoff behind at times. Yet, as the movie progresses, Anna begins to come into her own, paving her own path and becoming a leader in her own right.

This evolution is exemplified in the scene where Anna talks the Arendelle soldier into helping her break the dam instead of succumbing to grief over her sister's apparent demise. It is a powerful moment that shows just how far Anna has come from her naive beginnings. She has learned to prioritize herself and her own goals rather than simply following in Elsa's wake.

Overall, the character development in F2 is a testament to the power of self-discovery and self-awareness. Both Elsa and Anna have undergone significant changes since their introduction in F1, and their journeys continue to be a driving force behind the success of the Frozen franchise.

As the Frozen franchise moves into a potential third installment, it is natural to speculate on what the future may hold for the beloved characters of Anna and Elsa. While a wedding for Anna and Kristoff seems inevitable, there are also larger questions to be answered, particularly regarding Elsa's role as the fifth spirit. While the second movie provided some answers, there is still much to explore in this area.

In discussing the potential plot of a third movie, it is important to consider the character development that has occurred in the previous installments. Both Elsa and Anna have grown immensely throughout their journey, with Elsa moving from self-loathing to self-discovery and Anna learning to carve her own path and lead rather than simply following her sister.

The concept of self-actualization is particularly relevant here, as it represents the highest level of psychological development in Maslow's hierarchy of needs. As such, it is reasonable to expect that the third movie will focus on this theme, particularly in relation to Elsa's character. As she continues to save the forest, the question arises: what is her ultimate purpose? This is a question that the filmmakers may explore in depth, pushing Elsa's character to new heights of growth and development.

Meanwhile, Anna's journey has already seen her experience - failed love and heartbreak (kinda ? but it's more relevant for Kristoff - Lost in the Woods), and it is likely that the third movie will explore the challenges of marriage and the complexities of juggling work and love. Despite these difficulties, Anna and Kristoff are likely to learn to love and cherish each other all the more for the struggles they face.

Anyway. Let’s see what happens. (In my personal opinion I believe Disney should stop producing sequels of the same story over and over again, hoping to cash in on its previous successes. F2 didn’t meet upto my expectation and I don’t really think there can be any movie better than Frozen 1, cause it is just perfect and we don’t need another rushed, half assed movie just so Disney can make big billions while undermining artistic integrity.) 

Lemme know what you guys think !

#frozen #frozen 2 #frozen 3 #disney frozen #elsa #frozen 3 theory #frozen theory #anna #kristoff #self acceptance #self discovery #self actualization #maturity

[enerday]

Okay, we all know the "trolls made Hans evil" Frozen theory.

But.

To think about possible alternative scenarios of this theory.

What if he cared for Anna and loved her sincierly but wasn't all good and kind? Yes, he had plans for throne, yes, he's ambitious and manipulative, but still had sincere feelings for Anna?

What if he came to Erendell planning to wed new queen, met Anna, princess and chocolate lover, and fell in love with her, and maybe even thought of her as of his soulmate. And then met Elsa, who was cold, unloving sister for Anna in his eyes, and clearly unfit for the throne. He projected his youngest of 13 brothers complex onto sisters, and decided that Anna deserved more.

Like, so much of "love is an open door" just can not be faked even by someone manipulative. Something like "searching my whoke life to find my own place" and fooling around in the palace and enjoying it, you can't deny the chemistry of "we have siblings but we are lonely in our families", "we kinda crazy the same way" and "then let's just start our own thing together" couple.

So Hans decides that Elsa has to go - not sure how, but maybe some coup? Dethronement for unfit queen? Elsa's clearly unwell, she ought to fuck something up - and she did. Accidents happens - fortunately, people of Erendell have Anna, collected and open-minded, she had such a great opportunity to present herself as a strong leader. If she hadn't followed Elsa.

Well, Elsa presented opportunity herself, she's still evil older sister in his eyes, and can actually hurt Anna. Imprisonement for her works perfectly for later overthrowing with Anna as the future queen.

But then troll magic kickes in. They can't make a good person instantly evil, but they can manipulate his mind a little bit, as they did with Anna. So they change a thing or two - like, increase the scale of his ambitions and reduce his feelings for Anna. So that he could literally kill her.

Because it doesn't make any sense for him to actively try to kill her. He has no rights to claim the throne, even engagement is unofficial. Realistically speaking, there are ought to be distant royal relatives, side branches of family, literally lines of aristoctates ready to claim the throne based on their kinship with either of deceased royal parents. Ready-to-be-engaged with younger princess is not good enough.

So okay, it's fairytale for kids, there are no other pretendents on throne other than Anna's fiance.

Even if he knew that kiss is not gonna work because of lack of feelings, it's not good reason to not pretend to try. They knew each other for literally one evening, no one in their right mind wouldn't be surprised if they don't have deep feelings for each other. Worst case scenario he could blame Anna for not loving him - and it would actually be true cause of Cristoff (she clearly had doubts by the end of the journey). Like literally any other way would fit him better - but he chose the one that assures that Anna would definetely hate him. No sense.

And what if she lives long enough to tell somebody? What if somebody's eavesdropping?

Kid came from the family of 13. He waited for an opportunity even to occure way too long. He masterminds everything and manipulates her into loving him and everyone in Erendell to trust him, and literally made no mistakes in fulfilling his plans, and he suddenly just can't wait for a little bit longer? No sense.

So bottom line, I still can't get over the fact that they want me to believe Love is an open door is just Hans pretending to be nice.

They can't make me believe this is "I'm gonna kill your sister and you" smile.

Nobody's looking. He doesn't have to play nice.

Don't tell me he's not stunned with her.

#frozen #frozen theory #disney frozen #disney theory #hans of the southern isles #frozen hans #frozen anna

[no-im-not-a-robot-stop-asking]

Can we just take a minute to remember else I basically a godess?? She can CREATE LIFE and consciousness, has psychic abilities with water, can freeze an entire kingdom by accident without any apparent time limit to the change of climate and she can talk to spirit elements and she is way to talented vocally.

On a more serious note, an Elsa with good intentions wrecked chaos, an Elsa with bad intentions would be terrifying.

She could create a whole army of ice monsters and also she's an element so she's probably immortal.

#frozen #frozen theory

[tanglepelt]

Dc x dp idea 82

Bernard has a new online conspiracy theorist friend.

Tim is at least happy bernard has less conspiracy theories about the bats. However him going off about a whole branch of the government deemed as guys in white is a bit much.

Now. He sure the two are just feeding off one another.

But it gets a tad too specific at times. Bernard going into detailed accounts of different ghost then ways they may have died?

A tiny ghost in a suit of armor. He is even claiming that his online friend is actually king of an entire dimension of elite ghost warriors? But his friend hadn’t realized it yet.

Honestly if his friend whose username is d3as0rAliv3? wasn’t coming to visit Gotham. Which he has no idea why anyone would come here he’d be hunting him down right now.

He’ll still do his research of course. Tim will also accompanying Bernard for the meet up. Just to be on the safe side.

Now when they got to the library. He most certainly wasn’t expecting a kid their age with a black eye and bruising around the wrists.

Especially not that Danny actually had proof of this GIW and the fact they were actively hunting down beings from a dimension called the infinite realm.

Maybe it wasn’t all a conspiracy theory. How on earth did Bernard find the one person who could prove their was a secret government agency hell bent on breaking the meta protection acts.

#danny phantom #danny fenton #dp x dc #dc x dp #dp dc crossover #dp x dc crossover #dp x dc prompt #Tim drake #conspiracy theories #Bernard hit the jack pot #tim is not in for a good time #i have so many ideas #Bernard also theorizes Danny is king #he was present for pariahs dethroning #if Bernard also thinks Danny is let yeti #after discussions of the far frozen #Danny had no filter #just flat out lays it out #yea. you know my parents are trying to kill interdimensional beings so what? #i have a test to study for #implied bad fenon parents #they may of found out and not been to thrilled #the batfam better be ready for a PowerPoint curtiosy of Tim #Giw is going down #yes #Danny is ghost king #he just doesn’t know it #Bernard had to get something right #bernard dowd

[rudeflower]

jamie tartt's surprisingly soft house

Hello my Apple+ trial ends in 14 minutes and I used my last screencaping seconds to make this post

SO when I watched through every time we went to Jamie's house (which I think was only 4 times, but see above I don't have time to check rn)

I was blown away by how much it clashed with Jamie's personal aesthetic. He actually describes it as "zippers, hoods or graffiti...where is the graffiti?"

Not in your house babe

Aside from some touches like lamps shaped like firearms, the house is all light colors, clean lines, candles, flowers and soft unique white lights. Bb keeps his mirror in front of the well maintained modest garden so he can look at two forms of beauty at once

It was weird and felt like a product of lack of thought going into the house aside from some weird lamps untillllllll

We go to his mom and stepdad's house back on the council estate and it's soft and gentle. The house feels like a secret world, white unique white lights, and floral paintings. It's so safe, this young man who has been on guard and masking for three seasons melts into safety.

His unusually soft gentle house is bringing the safety of home down to London with him. I have a theory that he bought this house thinking his mom and even Simon could come visit or even move in. He probably has tried to buy her a house more than once--huge ones, beautiful ones with big windows, but Georgie just wanted him to buy the council house for her, she's made a good home there. Still, Jamie chooses where and how to live just in case she decides to come move in. Maybe can't admit that the maintained garden, the floral paintings are for him too.

#if you want a less gentle theory on why Georgie doesn't have any pics of Jamie as a teenager #and why the bedroom looks frozen at about fifth grade #I'VE GOT IT #ted lasso #jamie tartt #georgie tartt #stepdad simon who deserves miles of fic

[kadextra]

Bad theorizing how these 7 deadly sins monsters appeared right after the elections ended, and how if the timing went the way it was originally meant to (the elections were supposed to end sooner) these mobs would’ve appeared sooner too; specifically around the time they fought in the noise dungeon with Jaiden.

….guys that lines up perfectly with the dungeon symbolizing dante’s inferno nine circles of hell theory o_o

#qsmp #qsmp badboyhalo #like i was already sold on this theory #bc the 9th circle of hell is a frozen lake = 9th floor of the dungeon is frozen pods #thats not a coincidence lmfao #but now I’m even more so

[harmoonix]

Disneys Cusp Babies (In astrology)

Based on true characters

Theory:

I really think that there is someone behind Disney's team who is very connected to astrology because what they did is very smart.

So for those who don't know cusp babies are the people who have the sun sign at 29° or 0° degrees

Elsa's birthday happens during the winter solstice (21st - 22nd December of 1817 in Norway)

That makes Elsa to be a Capricorn Sun at 0° (Cusp Baby)

While Anna has her birthday a bit earlier (June 20 round to June 22)

Anna has a bigger chance to have a Gemini Sun at 29° than a Cancer Sun at 0° because her birthday is settled to be from 20 June while Cancer Season starts 2 days after (June 22) ofc it matters A LOT if you are born during the day or night! This is just a theory !

If you watched Frozen 2, the story is based on Elsa finding who she truly is while Anna does the same, at the end they both discover what that "discover" thing means.

0° is the degree of magican, starter energy you have the power to create (Elsa has the energy of creating something new with herself, she starts a new cycle)

29° is the ender degree, you have to end something (a cycle) in this current life Anna in frozen 2 became the new queen and took her parents legacy to be the next and true at the throne (she ended the cycle)

You see the balance between them?

That's what I think is really awesome!! Of course this is just a theory but if you are a cusp baby let me know what's your opinion!!♥️

- Harmoonix ♥️♥️♥️♥️

#astrology #astro observations #birth chart #astro notes #astrology observations #placements #astro community #horoscope #ascendant #cusps in Astro #cusp babies #theory #disney #astro theory #astro Tumblr #frozen #frozen 2 aesthetic

[papiliomame]

Storyteller

Frostbite: - and with just one mighty punch the Great One claimed the crown!

Chief Frostbite gives the Far Frozen children some lesson in ghost zones history.

While I was making this I wondered why the Far Frozen people have a shrine with simple cave drawings as a place of worship for Danny. I mean if you worship someone/something you want to offer the best you can offer, so why didn't they made something better? We saw how Frostbite created a perfect copy of Danny made of ice within seconds, so it doesn't seem like it is a lack of artistic talent. I have some theories under the cut:

The Far Frozen people are big fans of Pablo Picasso and they took the quote, "It took me four years to paint like Raphael, but a lifetime to paint like a child", at heart and have let their youngest members draw the heroics of Danny Phantom. This is their way to show the greatest honor.

The shrine is a prophecy the Far frozen have gotten hold of when their civilization was still young, like stone age period. So they preserved the shrine until the day Danny visits them. ( But this also means destiny exists and everything Clockwork told about that nothing is written in stone is questionable)

This theory is now a very confusing concept and I need to tell some background first: While I was searching for references I noticed that some of the drawings have Danny without the logo.

Since the episode "Memory Blank" Desiree presumably created a new reality/timeline where Danny always had a logo (if she is that powerful to have reality warping powers):

Transcript from "Memory Blank" Danny Did you do something to my costume? Sam acts innocent. Sam No. It’s… [Shrugs.] always been like that.

How did the Far Frozen know of a reality without a logo? Now comes the theory: We know that natural portals can be created which leads to different time periods while in the Ghost Zone. That means time flows not linear in the zone.

This reminded me of a concept in from the Elder Scrolls franchise, the Dragon Break or un-time. This is a phenomenon "that involves a splitting of the natural timeline which results in branching parallel realities where the same events occur differently, or not at all." With this penomenon stuff can also get sent into the future or something into the past. (The Elder Scrolls 5: Skyrim plot)

In terms of DP that means the events of "Memory Blank" did occur like we saw but it also did not occur like that, maybe Danny changed his outfit just like that without Sams doing. Everything is possible and not. That's why the Far Frozen have the knowledge of a reality which shall not exist.

In the shrine drawing Danny is also depicted without the battle suit, so they know of a reality where Danny defeated Pharia Dark without it:

Now then, why do they have simple cave drawings? Because of the non-linear nature of the Zone the news of the ghost kings defeat reached the area of the Far Frozen in their past but as Danny arrived their civilization already evolved in a modern state. For Danny it was just a few weeks/months between the events, but for the Far Frozen it was centuries or even millennia, thats also why they worship him like a god.

Like I said a very confusing concept.

Desiree could also just have super effective memory manipulation powers and did not create a new reality, and the nature of the ghost zone is just a mess, and the theory is wrong...

(tagging @floralflowerpower because she is the best world building expert in the phandom I know and I wonder whether this sounds plausible)

#frostbite #far frozen #danny phantom #fanart #my art #digital illustration #ghost zone theory

[cat-mentality]

Pol remembers everything.

He doesn't speak about it of course, not when he realizes how unfriendly those new Islanders are about the Federation, but he knows very well who he is and what happened before.

The ice was.... Uncomfortable, not exactly his desired outcome for any of them, but given the circumstances Pol admits it could have been worse, it's just generally better to not think about those things at all, the ice happened but it's over now.

The more they forget about what happened the better.

None of the others seem to remember anything, a pity really since Pol would be interested in talking about some things with young Nikki or with Bagi, Bagi in particular used to lead some very interesting missions on her days, but both of them don't seem to recall him or their previous job.

Well, a shame really. But he supposes that the Federation must have their reason for wiping their memories. Far from him to try to insert himself into things that are none of his business.

Pol is retired. As much as one can be while still living on the Island at least, and he is happy with how things are going now, with being left to do his own things while occasionally being called to touch up on some previous jobs or to create something new, the excitement of being needed never fading away.

Pol remembers everything even if he is not going to disclose that information to anyone.

Tubbo doesn't remember anything.

He can't.

They wouldn't allow it.

It's too dangerous, too volatile, too unpredictable.

It's been many years, decades, so much that most of the workers, even the high ranking ones, do not know about what happened. The ones who did, well they are mostly long gone, destroyed alongside all of the written reports.

The Federation went to great lengths to erase Tubbo from memory.

They couldn't allow him to be remembered by anyone, let alone himself. Many had argued that he should have been killed, others that he should have been buried somewhere else, somewhere no one would ever be able to find him again, but those had lost- He was too valuable, the ones with the final say had determined, his skills unmatched, they couldn't risk losing him and not finding someone to take his place.

Replacing him isn't the same as replacing the workers. 

So Tubbo was allowed to live.

Frozen, his memories wiped, all traces of his existence erased from records, most of those who knew him, knew of him, erased alongside it, some few, too valuable for the same fate, embraced the offer to be made to forget instead.

(Pol looks at Tubbo and frowns.

He knows this kid.

There is something disturbingly familiar about him, about his smiles, about his loud voice, about his joy and his laughter.

Something even more familiar about his rage. About the craziness shining in bright eyes, in the smile that shows too many teeth, in the easiness he can craft machines of mass destruction, in how willing he is to put them to use.

Pol asks Cucurucho about it, once. 

The bear does not answer him directly but Pol is not stupid. He can understand the "stop asking" left implicitly in the message.)

Tubbo doesn't remember anything.

But Cucurucho does.

He looks at the boy and a part of him, the part that is capable of feeling, burns with anger.

He remembers what that boyish charm hides.

He remembers the devil hidden in his smile.

He remembers how hard it was to put a stop to him the first time.

And he hates that he was brought back with the others, that the higher ups cannot seem to want to give up on someone they know they cannot predict or control.

It has to be different this time.

He needs to feel fear, he needs to be afraid of the Federation and it's power, he needs to be beaten down so hard that he could never consider getting up again.

The Federation needs his skills, not his spirit.

How unfortunate then, that this time Tubbo is walking a path where the Federation is his enemy. When he was their employee, when he was one of the higher ranking members despite his young age, he was a weapon, a loose cannon that they could barely keep in check, too dangerous to let loose, too valuable to kill, too unstable to be properly efficient, but he was still bound to them.

It's worse now.

Cucurucho looks at the bright eyes and defiant smile and plots. He keeps his gun closer than usual, and satisfaction bleeds on his smile when the light on those mismatched eyes dims just a bit, when hesitation is made known even if for a second, when he freezes, when he flinches upon seeing him.

Good.

The boy is as defiant as always but there are cracks on him now and not having his memories means he lost the ability to fall back on his arrogance, on the acknowledgement that he was too valuable. He is vulnerable now, just a reckless young man who can be broken. Who will be.

Cucurucho looks at a worker with a bleeding heart and questionable actions and pretends he doesn't see anything. Better the mechanic sees them as equals, as things to care about, than as disposable pieces of a machine, as enemies.

Better he has something to lose.

Cucurucho looks at a lost child and his smile gets wider, showing teeth. He feels satisfied with a job well done, with how things have fallen into place at least.

Tubbo will fall in line. He will behave, like he has never done before, because if he doesn't.... Well a little collateral damage can be easily justified, no one will really miss a broken worker or a spare egg.

#i 'cooked' this from thin air this is like a kids play dough meal #it's real in literally no place but my own mind #but i REALLY enjoy the idea that the frozen players were all ex Federation workers #and they were not frozen as a punishment but maybe to save them from something more dangerous #not tubbo tho #that was totally a punishment #also particular headcannon of mine that carre and bagi were frozen in different moments than the others #and tubbo was frozen before any of them #like WAY earlier like when Pol was young type of early #qsmp tubbo #qsmp theory #qsmp #qsmp polispol #also theory may be a stretch

[ericmicael]

"Kristoff is the lost prince of another kingdom"

"Rapunzel and Flynn will appear as recurring characters and become a crossover film"

"Anna will reveal herself to have fire powers"

"All the dead characters in the franchise will turn out to be alive"

"The teenage ghost from the film that almost bankrupted the studio will become a couple with Elsa because someone like her is what she's looking for to be truly happy"

"The ten-year-old joke will return with redemption ignoring F2 and the film will be a romantic comedy with Elsa and the abusive man in the trope of unlikely allies"

"Harry Potter/magic duels"

Sometimes I wonder if I'm too picky or overly lucid because seriously, these "Frozen 3" and "Frozen 4" theories...

#frozen 2 #frozen 3 #frozen 4 #fandom #theories

[tiyasrocks]

Elsa definitely built herself a Ice Palace in the forest

As I consider the possibility of Elsa having constructed an ice castle for herself in the enchanted forest, I find myself entirely convinced that such a feat is not only possible but highly probable. After all, we are speaking of the sophisticated queen who, while enduring the greatest crisis of her life, constructed the grandest of castle in a mountain and fashioned the most stunning and alluring dress ever seen. Elsa has consistently exhibited a preference for the finer things in life, and as royalty, it is only natural that she would hold such a predilection.

Admittedly, Elsa is not haughty or conceited about her status, but one cannot ignore that every member of royalty is susceptible to a degree of pride. Elsa is no exception, having been born into a royal family and raised in a grand castle. Living in the forest, which is teeming with snakes, insects, and who knows what else, would be unimaginable for one accustomed to such luxuries. The huts of the forest tribes are smaller than Elsa's childhood bedroom, and the food they prepare is likely inferior to the grand dinners served in the castle.

As royalty, Elsa was raised in an environment of grandeur and extravagance, which has undoubtedly influenced her tastes and preferences. The refined atmosphere of the castle and the trappings of her noble status have shaped her perspective on life and imbued her with a sense of appreciation for beauty, elegance, and luxury. Therefore, it seems natural that Elsa would be drawn to the idea of constructing a magnificent ice castle that reflects her refined tastes and fulfils her desire for opulence and grandeur.

As such, I am entirely convinced that Elsa has indeed built an ice castle, a stunning and awe-inspiring edifice that reflects her remarkable abilities and exceptional character (and maybe used gale for free food delivery from the castle lol)

In any case, it is not difficult to imagine her fashioning a grand ice palace that would surpass even her previous achievements.It is clear that Elsa is a woman of refined taste and exceptional abilities, and I have no doubt that she has made herself quite comfortable in her icy abode.

#frozen #frozen 2 #disney frozen #elsa #arendelle #frozen theory #northuldra #my queen is a picture of 'sophisticated graceeeeeeee'

[a13thprincefora13thprincess]

Happy birthday Hans

I remember having seen an old Frozen concept art in which the characters were asociated with the seasons of the year. We know Elsa`s birhtday is in winter solstice, and Anna's birthday in summer solstice.

Since Kristoff was asociated with spring and Hans with autumn, their birthday dates must be 21st of March (Kristoff) and 21st of September (Hans). Let's celebrate the men of Frozen.

Happy birthday my fixer upper prince. Hope to see you in Frozen 3.

#hans #hans frozen #prince hans #frozen #disney frozen #my theories #hans' birthday #kristoff's birthday #kristoff #kristoff bjorgman #kristoff frozen #men of frozen #redeem hans #bring him back #hans in frozen 3 #helsa in frozen 3 #helsa