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oppienheimer · 1 year
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i’m not sure this is what your father had in mind when he asked me to look in on you.
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johngreydaily · 1 year
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some people you grieve over forever.
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cookie-de-baunilha · 2 months
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Most people agree that John should move on with his life, let go of Jamie and find happiness in a real relationship. But there are some takes on this subject that really piss me off.
I’m sorry but “oh I know John will never love someone like/more than he loves Jamie, but I really wish he could find a great guy and have a nice relationship with him!!” is not the good argument that you think it is.
That’s not getting over Jamie, that’s settling for second best. Well, he can’t have Jamie, poor thing! So he will have to take someone else who he won’t love as much as he loves Jamie but at least he will have someone to cuddle with at night 🥺
Why can’t John actually get over Jamie?? Why should he settle for the second best? Worse, why should his partner accept being the second choice??
I damn well don’t want John loving someone else like he loves Jamie because that shit is completely unhealthy imo, but I know that’s not what people mean.
Jamie being the superior god-like man that everyone is in love with/is attracted to/wants to fuck is kinda ridiculous imho, but I understand the appeal that a character like that has for the audience of a romance book/show. But to put Jamie so high up in a pedestal and to think that John should be forever in love with him and not ever get over him because oh lord nothing is comparable to King-of-Men-Jamie is… a choice.
Listen. I know that’s on Diana. She is the one who wrote John like this. But I wish people would be more critical of Diana’s writing of him instead of swallowing that shit up like it’s chocolate. Everyone knows how problematic the books can be regarding certain topics, this is just another one of these things.
Instead of accepting that John won’t ever get over Jamie/won’t ever love someone as much as he loves Jamie, you should be asking yourself: why is that Diana writes him like this? Why does she insist in the stereotypical cliché of the gay man having unrequited feelings for his straight best friend? Why can’t John truly move on and stop having romantic feelings for Jamie? Why should Jamie be John’s greatest love?
Outlander is essentially a romance (idgaf about what DG says). Love of all types is a running theme: not only romantic love, but the love that exists within family and friendship. And yes, there’s a lot of platonic/friendship kind of love between J/J.
But romantic love specifically has a huge role in this story. We have straight couples left and right in this series: Claire and Jamie, Bree and Roger, Fergus and Marsali, Ian and Rachel, Dottie and Denzell, Hal and Minnie, Jenny and Ian, hell, even Brian and Ellen are getting a spin-off.
So I’m sorry but it’s really freaking weird that, in the middle of all this, people say that John (the character with his own book series and one of the main POV characters in the main series, mind you) won’t ever be able to love someone like he loves Jamie, or more than he loves Jamie. It’s really freaking weird that people say that John has to settle with second best — because that’s essentially what’s being said every time someone says that John won’t ever love someone like he loves Jamie but he should find someone else to be in a relationship with anyway.
All of that for what? Keep the cliché of the gay dude in love with his straight best friend and who never moves on? C’mon now. Don’t piss me off.
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OUTLANDER 1x15 / 3x03
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winnie-the-monster · 5 days
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labarboteuse · 7 months
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Is anyone interested in an Outlander fanfiction ? It's quite hard to find here and I’m finally currently working on one (with our delightful William Ransom). If it works, I'm thinking of doing one also about Lord John.
Please tell me ! 🥰
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lofan · 1 month
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So, person 1 cares about person 2, who is also his prisoner. Falls in love with him, gets him out, organises him nice job based on his hobby, all while suppressing his unrequited feelings. He raises P2's son for 20 years. When P2 fights with his daughter, he rides to deliver her a letter of apology and then agrees to marry her, because she is pregnant from r^pe (and it's shameful at the moment*). When they meet again, P1 lets him go, even knowing that he takes part in the revolution against his government
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Yes, Lord John, I'M TALKING ABOUT YOU, YOU INSANE MAN WITH A FACE OF A BEATEN PUPPY
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Jamie: He died of natural causes. John: You pushed him into a quarry! Jamie: Gravity is natural.
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annablogsposts · 8 months
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Guys if you like angsty/whumpy quotes, here’s a great one from Voyager (Outlander):
“It had been visions of revenge that kept him tossing in his bed as the window lightened and the rain pattered on the sill; thoughts of Fraser confined to a tiny cell of freezing stone, kept naked through the winter nights, fed on slops, stripped and flogged in the courtyard of the prison. All that arrogant power humbled, reduced to groveling misery, dependent solely on his word for a moment’s relief.”
(For context, John Grey had become warden of a prisoner of war prison, where Fraser was kept. 10 years prior, Fraser spared Grey’s life, but also humiliated him both in front of his own soldiers and his enemy’s, causing him to be outcasted by pretty much everyone in his platoon for a while.)
Excerpt From
Voyager
Diana Gabaldon
https://books.apple.com/us/book/voyager/id419278687
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For what it’s worth, he didn’t actually end up being a bad warden, and they ended up being friends :)
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lordjohnwgrey · 2 years
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DAVID BERRY as LORD JOHN GREY 
Outlander season 6 episode 5 "Give Me Liberty"
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oppienheimer · 1 year
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"I’ve known the major since we were youngsters. I find him to be a rare and… interesting person. I imagine he’ll make someone a good husband."
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johngreydaily · 1 year
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I must believe there’s another way to live. A better way, perhaps.
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cookie-de-baunilha · 4 months
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Diana forgetting what she wrote in BOTB is not even a joke actually, it’s a fact:
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A YEAR OR TWO LATER?? Is she talking about the Lavender House meeting? Because they talked for like 2 seconds in that scene, it makes 0 sense to consider that as the starting point of their relationship.
But pushing that aside, DECLARED HIS LOVE??? Excuse me, ma’am, I think I’ve read a completely different book.
It wasn’t until after the Doorknob Incident™ that John realized he was in love with Percy, tf is she talking about? And Percy never knew John was in love with him because John never told him, so wdym DECLARED his love?? That thought never left his head.
Let’s take a look at the definition of the verb “declare”, shall we?
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Some interesting words: solemn, emphatic, firmly, clearly, publicly, officially… literally the polar opposite of what John did ijbol
Not to mention “someone who turns out to be unworthy of their love”, well I guess they could call it even then bc how the f*ck is Mr. I-will-tell-you-I-can’t-love-you-because-I’m-already-in-love-with-someone-else-but-I’ll-conveniently-2nd-place-you-and-take-your-love-and-all-the-benefits-that-come-with-it-so-that-I-can-enjoy-your-body-and-your-company-whilst-refusing-to-acknowledge-my-own-feelings anywhere near “worthy”.
This is so ridiculous 🙄
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The canon queer character of the day is:
Lord John Grey from Outlander, the Outlander series, and the Lord John series, who is gay.
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NANCY DREW CASE FILES: 13
LAST TRAIN TO BLUE MOON CANYON
Invited on board a haunted train to help solve a century-old mystery of the vanished Jake Hurley, only to uncover another one unraveling in present day aboard the train to blue moon canyon.
"You know what they say it's not the destination it's the journey and this is one ride you'll never forget. You don't want to miss this train"
Bobby Cannavale as Tino Balducci
A hot-shot detective riding the fame from an old case with a big win up his sleeve and an even bigger ego.
Kathy Bates as Charleena Purcell
An award winning romance novelist, diving into a darker mystery genre.
Anya Taylor-Joy as Lori Girard
With a love for attention and mysteries only one can imagine what happened to the girl who disappeared?
LaKeith Stanfield as John Grey
Host of TV's Ghost Chasers, with a rumor of the train being haunted by Jake Hurley's wife Camille, he gets to work finding proof of the haunting, rather than the missing girl. Whatever makes for great Tv.
Nick Robinson as Frank Hardy
The older of the Hardy boys and the more rational of the two brothers. His keen eye for detail is great at always seeing something lurking underneath the facade.
Rudy Pankow as Joe Hardy
The younger of the Hardy boys and the more impulsive of the two Brothers. But, his optimism and lighthearted nature is needed in times where the mystery proves harder to solve.
7.DOG 10.SHA 11.CUR 13.TRN 15.CRE 16.ICE 17.CRY 22.TOT
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captain-ed-tucker · 2 months
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Unpopular opinion but Jamie x Claire is not a romance story. It's gross af and vomit worthy how Jamie can remarry after Claire travels back to her time for twenty years and the fact that he hid, lied, decieved, manipulated and gaslit Claire into staying. If gripping someone's wrist and forcing them to stay when they want to leave is romance, I want nothing to do it. It is disgusting. Jamie Frasier is a liar and a cheater and I'd dump his ass if I found out he replaced me with someone else while I was away. And the slutshaming he does? Jesus fucking christ. Oh and he's a raging homophobe as well, so I'm still mystified why the hell John considers him a friend after Jamie called him a pervert to his face. I'm amazed how little self respect people have if they think Jamie Fraser is the epitome of a good man in any shape, way or form. For all I care, he's a traitor to his family, clan, his godfather murtagh and his wife Claire and his apologies are fake as hell and don't bring about changed behavior since he keeps hiding secrets when Claire especially requested no secrets. Both John Grey and Claire Fraser deserve way better than a sorry excuse of a man named Jamie Fraser
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