#kakaobi

[r--kt]

Where actually was this betrayal line for Obito that Kakashi had crossed?

about the whole "anyone got Kakashi, but not Obito" thing that @komihoyinsblog said. I remembered where the culmination of this theme was. no, like, this whole topic is real!

let's talk about the scene after when Jubito was defeated. here I will analyse kkobkk relationships and Obito's arc specifically.

contents | context · meaning of the scene · where's a mistake and where's a betrayal

CH. 655

Context

during the battle with the shinobi alliance, Obito came face to face with a deeply repressed desire for another life, which he did not realize due to his position as the only one who can fulfill the tsukuyomi plan. the battle itself as well as the conversation with Naruto reminds Obito of the aspirations and values dear to him that he had to sacrifice. all this has noticeably hit Obito and now he is disarmed and stripped of his armor, which is metaphorically reflected in his half-naked body (and cuz fans love men's boobs).

CH. 652. god, look how happy he is, I'm sobbing. love the way he never regrets about his scars, they're with him even in his imagination, that's a reminder of his core values.

structurally, in Obito's arc, this scene is the Collapse point and the end of the second act. here, the previous methods (the tsukuyomi plan) have shown their inconsistency, and the goal (peace for everyone and for him, too) has not been achieved, and he must find a new way to achieve this goal. at the beginning of the scene, he is confused, defeated and not ready to face the consequences.

why isn't he ready? he's lying there, seemingly resigned. yeah, not exactly. here, he accepted the impending death, and it's even not bad to die by Kakashi's hand to some extent. another question is, is he ready to talk to him, is he ready to accept the defeat and find the strength to continue the journey?

Meaning of the scene

once again, it is important that the battle with the alliance and the conversation with Naruto influenced Obito, but did not convince him. it was Kakashi who did it.

in fact, this conversation with Kakashi is a crucial reason for Obito to return to his ideals. before that, he was in doubt (the second act is a reflection of the character, as if hesitating from one side to the other), and after that he takes the side of the alliance. what did Kakashi say that made Obito come back?

three questions Obito is asking.

how can you be sure that Naruto won't fail on his way, unlike me? [pic 2, above]

why are you so attached to Naruto, what's the difference between him and me? [pic below]

why are you willing to help him (and not me)? [pic below]

they don't talk about different paths here. Kakashi emphasizes that Obito's path is not exactly wrong, so that's not the deal. it's about Obito and Naruto as people, and, more, about Kakashi's opinion on Obito.

finding out why he is not the one whose path Kakashi is ready to defend is essential for Obito. he wants to understand why Naruto (aka Obito's previous self, too) is closer to him, why Kakashi does not support the actual one for whom he grieved so much. why, even recognizing the possible correctness of tsukuyomi, Kakashi refuses to support Obito in this, prefers to go the same way. and also look at how damn emotional he is at this moment, his feelings go from anger to anxiety in a couple of frames. that's what happened when the central conflict "I'm never good enough to be loved" is raised.

Obito's questions are a subconscious appeal to Kakashi — "why don't you choose me? I could make you happy. what's wrong with me again?!" he thinks that the reason Kakashi doesn't take his side is not because of the correctness of his path, but because of Obito himself. subconsciously, he thinks that it's because of Kakashi's personal dislike of this "new" Obito, and he is very afraid of this might be true. just look at his face at the bottom of the page, he's really worried about hearing Kakashi's answer. oh, and it's actually the same meaning as "I thought, maybe you could love me like you used to, even though I'm different" [ Jinx's quote from Arcane, yes, I like to compare these two sometimes ].

what Kakashi says in this situation means "let me help you." Kakashi said he would be ready to help Obito if he let him in, if he allowed him. this is literally the only condition (which is important to mention here) under which Obito did not pass, because of his desire to reject Kakashi's help, believing that he must put his life on tsukuyomi plan and cut off all ties. but this does not mean that he wanted Kakashi to cut off this tie in return.

Obito was an individualist, and he only scoffed or got angry at Kakashi's offer to help/sympathize. now they're in a situation when Obito finally hear that Kakashi said "you've made mistakes, but that's okay. I can be with you, if you need me to, and I'm okay with you continuing your life and reaching peace. I accept you and I believe in you." and I want you to appreciate that this is the tipping point of Obito's arc.

so, that's why Obito changes his way of acting. Kakashi shows that he accepts Obito the way he is, and thus significantly reduces Obito's need to prove his worth through his own hardships and overcoming difficulties. yes, Kakashi had already said similar things before, and it didn't work, but here this line is resolved precisely because of this deep conversation they had.

Where's a mistake and where's a betrayal

oh, maybe Rin's death was a thing Obito considered a betrayal from Kakashi's part? everything's much less trivial. would he offer to help Kakashi if he thought he was a traitor? and well, he offered.

CH. 630

no, look at his face on the bottom right, why would you say that with such a gentle face to someone you consider a traitor? what is it, a genuine smile? so something happened besides that.

the betrayal was that Kakashi preferred his other ties to the connection with Obito. here, betrayal is not about killing Rin, and not about breaking a promise — all these are mistakes that Obito is able to forgive.

all the moments when Obito says something like "you had the opportunity to kill me, but you didn't do it", "you can't deal with me because of guilt?", "still blaming yourself for the broken promises?" - all this is an attempt to increase his own value, to show the importance of Obito for Kakashi. and it's also a projection. Obito says, "you had so many opportunities to kill me, but you..." although he does the same. like, why would he leave Kakashi alive after the kamui battle? intentionally inflict a non-fatal wound on him and leave him in a dimension that only he and Obito have access to? "I don't care if he's alive or dead," but at every opportunity he chose the option "alive", even if it's less profitable for him. my baby loves to deceive himself so much.

all this time, Obito believed that he was striving for their common dream, and therefore the condemnation from Kakashi (there should be a couple more frames from the manga) feels like the most painful blow for him, especially when Kakashi says that Rin would not want it either. before that, Obito had compared himself and Kakashi a couple of times, put them on an equal footing, and after being rejected by him, that's where Obito feels really lonely.

the point of no return was precisely the fact that Kakashi shows with his own words that he does not accept the current Obito and everything he's been striving for years. all this, taken together, he considered a betrayal, as if he's not enough, as if he fucked everything up again.

therefore, their conflict is resolved by the acceptance of one person by another, this is in fact exactly what Obito's heart wanted — to hear that he could be accepted after all that had happened. the same thing happened after his death, when he finally met Rin, by the way.

hope the text is not that messy. oh, and! that kkob video I've made with mitski's song. this fits the topic so well. love these guys

#obito uchiha #kakashi hatake #naruto shippuden #naruto #kakaobi #obikaka #team minato #kakashi #obito

[komihoyinsblog]

Obito was an orphan as a kid(in the anime there was a grandmother) and was clearly not an overly rich boy. But how the hell rich was he as a shadow mizukage????? Plus kamui is literally the key to any money vault. Not only did Obito become super strong, he became super rich. If he was only rich in gold it would be fine, but there's a spare door in his personal bank vault where a commensurate mountain of mental problems lie. It's even a bit of a shame.

I now have an idea in my head... Someone wrote an interesting text here (if you know who, write in the comments, I'll note in the post) that Obito didn't give Kakashi a gift not because he didn't know what to give, but because there was no money for a good gift. So, au within canon where Obito just overwhelms Kakashi with gifts. Does he do it like Tobi or Obito does? Or doesn't show his face to Kakashi at all? Suggest your options as to what you find more interesting.

Kakashi: *receives an expensive set of kunai*

Kakashi in one week: *receives a very nice seal scroll from Uzushio*

Kakashi in another week: *receives an expensive set of poisons from Suna*

Kakashi, finally noticing some kind of note after many weeks of unprecedented generosity from someone unknown: "need help, I can't decide which country to buy a mansion in - rice country, tea country, or snow country? Write the answer on a note and leave it here, I'll pick it up."

Kakashi, completely horrified that his apartment is a freaking passageway and already knowing that this isn't a joke, writes back: "you know, it would be nice to just know the name of my secret admirer or at least see you in person."

Kakashi, reading the note three days later: "that's impossible, and yes, I'm not a secret admirer, dammit. By the way, since you didn't pick one mansion, I bought all three, the documents are in the same place you usually keep them"

Kakashi, feeling a chill run down his spine and looking at the documents for three very expensive mansions: and what do people call this now? Charity????

Obito: I'm not Kakashi's secret admirer, that's stupid.

Also Obito: *buys Kakashi a damn library of his favorite books*

Kakashi, when he decides to have some fun and disguise himself as Sukea: *notices that he's out of makeup paint*

Kakashi: maa, damn it, now I have to wait two weeks for delivery

Kakashi the next day: *notices a 10-pack of the best makeup in his apartment*

Kakashi: what the fuck, how did he know about that?

#naruto #obito uchiha #kakashi hatake #kakaobi #obikaka #obkk #kkob #uchiha obito #hatake kakashi #naruto au #sukea #Rich Obito au

[haddockkkk]

them

#obkk #kkob #obikaka #kakaobi #kakashi #obito #naruto #anime #my art #art #fanart

[obkkseeker]

while you were out here reading hentai my man here was grinding missions

#all hail the moon eye plan #what if obito stayed an antagonist #that would be terribly hot i think #i like irredeemable assholes #being kakashi is suffering #obito uchiha #kakashi hatake #naruto #naruto fanart #kakaobi

[nobelowz]

two killers

#kakashi #obito #kkob #obkk #fanart #naruto #kakaobi #obikaka #art #anbu kakashi #lowkey a scene coming up in my fic...

[raycani]

Masked

#in my naruto era #my art #naruto #kakashi hatake #obito uchiha #kakaobi #??? idk #anbu kakashi #tobi

[0ynes]

They have been doing this for years

it's their mating dance at this point

#obkk #kkob #obikaka #kakaobi #obito uchiha #obito #kakashi #hatake kakashi #kakashi hatake #naruto shippuden #naruto #kakashi vs obito #obito vs kakashi

[maireyart]

"But I..." starts Obito. "Zip it," Kakashi wills Obito's mouth to shut. "Now go." I love how the fandom has gotten excited about Kakashi edo-tenseing Obito! ❤️ While everybody's discussing the possible sick angst of it (and a bit of fun, too), my brain has supplied some outright crack..... I'm incorrigible xD Thank you @malifiquemakes @hairybeardtongue @cool-thymus and @badninken for the new brainrot 🤭

#he just needs his fine literature back #normal ppl: hang out with each other #kakashi: resurrects a zombie #white-haired obito #obito #uchiha obito #kakashi #hatake kakashi #rokudaime #post-canon #edo tensei obito #kakaobi #obikaka #kkob #obkk #if you squint #crack #comedy #narutoart #comic

[atoriv-art]

keeping watch

#kakashi hatake #sasuke uchiha #obito uchiha #uchiha sasuke #uchiha obito #2023 #art #fanart #naruto #its hard being one of the only people invested in sasukes weird familial dynamic with obito but its honest work #its already hard being invested in his familial dynamic with kakashi tbf. #again. sasuke child of divorce propaganda #kakaobi

[komihoyinsblog]

Lol, imagine how funny the first arc of wave land will be.

Kakashi: *receives mission*

Kakashi the next day, reading the note: "here's the address of the rented house."

Kakashi, no longer surprised by anything: thanks for not buying this house.

(Obito would have bought the house, but some dead part of his brain responsible for logic told him that Kakashi would never come to this country again and therefore it was a waste of money).

Tazuna, when she sees that that house is rented by Kakashi's team: you are very prompt in your work

Kakashi: yes, I have good connections.

Kakashi's children: how you haven't been killed yet, sensei, you're a perfect prey for the black widow.

Kakashi, nervously: something tells me the black widow will die before me.

(he's right, lol, Obito's gifts are only for Kakashi, hands off).

Now imagine a meeting between Zabuza and Kakashi!

Zabuza: damn, I never thought the angel of death would turn out to be the shadow mizukage's favorite wife.

Kakashi: what? Who? What did you call me???

Zabuza, already with one foot in the pure lands: at least I learned the most guarded secret of the shinobi world, I can die in peace.

And what about Jiraiya, who does a lot of spying and follows the flow of money and information?

Jiraiya: you know-

Kakashi: no.

Jiraiya: I haven't said anything yet.

Kakashi: I don't need to hear anything you have to say.

Oh, it's going to be so much fun writing will Akatsuki here! Because Kisame is aware that Obito is the shadow mizukage, and Itachi is aware that he's Madara.

Kisame, picking up a piece of paper in the shelter: hmm...

Itachi: what is it

Kisame: I don't know, there's some sort of lifetime supply agreement for elite dog food in the name of Kakashi Hatake.

Itachi, wondering what his sempai has to do with this: how did this paper get here?

Tobi, appearing out of nowhere: oops, thanks for finding it! Tobi lost it and couldn't find it anywhere!

Kisame, looking doubtfully at Tobi: why do you need it?

Tobi, abruptly taking the document from Kisame's hands: because Kakashi-sempai has some really cute dogs!

Itachi: yeah, but-

Tobi, lowering his voice: but that's none of your business, thank you all, see you all soon

Imagine how funny Kakashi and Itachi's reunion will be later on!

Itachi: *throws a judgmental look at Kakashi*

Kakashi, in thought: what the hell, isn't he the missing ninja here? Why is he the one judging me then?

I can think of a dozen more funny situations here, maybe I'll write something else!

#naruto #obito uchiha #kakashi hatake #kakaobi #obikaka #obkk #kkob #uchiha obito #hatake kakashi #naruto au #Rich Obito au #akatsuki #kisame hoshigaki #itachi uchiha #jiraya #zabuza momochi

[malifiquemakes]

The Rokudaime's shadow.

#Every hokage needs a big scary bf #that dog's not feral but he will bite #obkk #kakaobi #uchiha obito #hatake kakashi #malifique art

[zuzu-draws]

[Impulsive Decisions]

"Tobi didn't have to save Kakashi, he was just..bored! That's right! Tobi was bored."

#obikaka #kakaobi #uchiha obito #hatake kakashi #obkk #kkob #kakashi x obito #tobi #akatsuki #anbu kakashi #naruto art #naruto #naruto shippuden #naruto fanart #my art #fan art #kakashi #obito #I'm currently trying to nurse my art block #and i ran out of time to work on this so i guess it may be wonky #i could've done better maybe but oh well i still like how they turned out #especially the first one #am i capable of drawing hot Obito now too? :> hehe #hopefully #edited the luminosity and desaturated a bit e_e

[ollyvoile]

ANIMATION MEME click click click

#my art #my animations #featuring a markiplier audio #obkk #kkob #obikaka #kakaobi #obito #kakashi #small obito #small kakashi #kid Obito #kid kakashi #uchiha obito #obito uchiha #hatake kakashi #kakashi hatake #naruto memes #naruto animation

[sloaners]

stuck camping in a nightmare cave, obito’s going to die by a different kind of crush

#fan art #naruto #kakaobi #kakashi #obito #kakashi hatake #obito uchiha #good news: they get rescued #bad news it’s by zetsu

[saterise]

They would have decimated Konoha if Obito had brought kakashi to his side just saying

#my art #procreate #digital art #fanart #Naruto #naruto shippuden #kakashi hatake #obito uchiha #obkk #obikaka #kakaobi #akatsuki #hatake kakashi #uchiha obito #kakashi fanart #kakashi x obito #obito fanart #obito x kakashi

[chubides]

Chapter 609 but a... little different (?

#naruto shippuden #obito uchiha #obikaka #naruto #obito #fan art #my art #kakashi hatake #kakashi #kakaobi #naruto uzumaki #naruto manga #obkk