#lgbtq discourse

[shoujoboy-restart]

#Disney #pixar #strange worlds #lgbt community #canon lgbt characters #lgbtq community #canon lgbtq characters #discourse #lgbt discourse #lgbtq discourse

[textk4kira]

I've noticed a trend behind the use of the label "transsexual" vs. "transgender".

Oftentimes transmedicalists use transsexual to differentiate themselves from the rest of the trans community.

It's disheartening and quick frankly, appaling.

You will not achieve acceptance in a cisheteronormative society by distancing yourselves from the "bad" or "confusing" trans folks.

Transsexual is a wonderful label, and we cannot allow transmedicalists to take ownership of it.

#this isn't really a discourse-centric blog but it feels necessary to say. #lgbtq discourse #trans #transgender #transsexual #heteronormativity #cisnormativity #lgbtq #queer #nonbinary #lgbtqia #transmeds begone #anti transmedicalism #anti transmed

[chaos-in-one]

Queer multigender culture is hating "non men loving non men" and "non women loving non women" being treated like the Good Inclusive Definitions for Nonbinary People for gay and lesbian because you know they'll never include you, as a nonbinary person, because you're NOT a non man or non woman.

#queer #multigender #pangender #trans #transgender #lesbian #gay #mlm #wlw #queer discourse #lgbtq discourse #trans discourse #nonbinary #nonbinary lesbian #nonbinary gay

[lavendermoonlitskies]

Are we really having this debate again? What do you guys think the A in LGBTQIA stands for? (If you say ally I’m gonna eat your parents)

#lgbtqia #aroace #asexuality #aromantic #I’m not ace but c’mon guys haven’t we moved past this #asexuality is valid #asexual #lgbtq discourse #pls stop #queer community

[sparkystarlight]

anyway forcing ppl to conform to the exact description of the orientations/identities they choose is completely against the spirit of queerness

#discourse #lgbtq discourse #lgbtq #i dont care if straight men call themselves lesbians anymore. it doesnt make them part of the community. #and ousting mspec lesbians is forcing out ppl who need our support #its mostly nb lesbians saying shit abt mspec lesbians too. youre in no place to talk

[springonmytraptillicomeback]

just saw a poll debating whether or not cishet aro men are lgbt… yall… yall… cis, heterosexual, AROMANTIC, men… I can’t with this shit

#do you guys need to #study what fucking #LGBTQIA #IS???? #lgbtqiA #A #A FOR AROMANTIC AND ASEXUAL #aroace #aromantic #lgbtq discourse #fuckin hate it #btw if it wasn’t clear #yes #cishet aro men are lgbt

[scary-radinclus-anon]

Message to young LGBT+ and Queer exclusionists:

If you really cared about the queer community, you'd eventually understand that the history of our rights hasn't been this long-winded so that you can yell at other young people being openly queer online

You don't like the adjectives they identify with? The pronouns? The nouns? That's a shame, leave them alone and stop assisting the enemy by bullying them online

If you think an identity label that's not known outside of Tumblr is a threat to the queer community, I expect to see you actually fighting back against things in the real world that seriously hurt the community

"The problem with the LGBTQ+ community today" is not labels or pronouns on Tumblr or TikTok or Twitter - it's the fact that we're still facing violence, and a huge amount of the next generation are still stuck hiding from the world by spreading online hate instead of spreading the word

#lgbtq #lgbt #queer #radqueer #radinclus #exclusionist tw #exclusionism #exclus #radexclus #anti harassment #anti xenogender #anti neopronouns #bi lesbian #xenogender #neopronouns #mogai #anti mogai #pro mogai #discourse #lgbtq discourse #queer discourse #mspec lesbian #lesboy #microlabels #neogender

[sophieinwonderland]

I'd like to mention something about places like r/systemscringe, since that one anon mentioned them being anti-LGBTQ in some ways... they can be violently queerphobic. Sometimes more than they're anti-endo.

Like, my blog's pinned post got posted there four months ago or so, and the vast majority of the comments weren't talking about us being endogenic, but about us being trans male and a bi lesbian (including saying we're a trans man instead of trans male and saying stuff like "it's so sad when trans men call themselves lesbians, don't they know it's okay to be straight?", shit like that). Oh, sure, there were a few comments here and there about our plurality ("'collective, not system' I hope [it's (oh yeah, a bunch of the commenters misgendered us even though our pronouns were visible in the screenshot)] not saying that to try and separate [itself] from medical things"), but most of it? Nah.

Like. Yes, they're violently anti-endo, yes they're assimilationist and demand unreasonable conformity, yes they're harmful to all plural folk. And on top of that, they're just as violently queerphobic towards anyone whose identities they don't understand, to the point where a lot of them will focus on the target's queerness instead of what the target was (supposedly) posted there for. They're dangerous towards everyone.

(note: any quotes up there are paraphrased, but only lightly)

☝️

#all of this! #syscourse #pro endogenic #lgbtq discourse #queerphobia #homophobia #transphobia #transphobes #r/systemscringe #systemscringe #hate groups #hate group

[vulto-cor-de-rosa]

"I'm gay but I'm not one of THOSE gays" Ok? Do want a round of applause? A prize? A prize for being an annoying piece of shit?

I hate to break it to you, but you hating other queer people who like mushrooms, have blue hair and a septum piercing, or that go by Moss and use bunny/bunnyself doesn't make you look as cool as you think. Because not only are you excluding people from your own community just to fit in better with cishets and homophobes, but you're also being ableist seeing as a lot of "those gays" are autistic/neurodivergent and trying to find ways to express themselves.

What you are doing is no different that those "LGB no T+" people. You're bullying and belittling people you you're supposed to helping because you're no different then them! Just because you dress and express yourself inside society norms doesn't mean that bigots won't go after you too. You're next on their list.

You're not better than us. And, honestly? I would rather be "one of Those gays" than a lap dog for bigots.

#I'm SO TIRED of this #rosa's garden #lgbtq+ #queer community #queer #gay #lgbtq #lgbtqia #discourse #queer discourse #lgbtq discourse

[lesbianamalvada]

how you feel about bisexual people saying they’re gay

I don't like it when people use gay as an umbrella term because it's literally not. I know one bi girl who always went "i'm sooo gayy" and I'm like "I thought u were bi??" and she was like "it's just simpler to say gay". I really don't get how though? Bi and queer are the same amount of syllables as gay. To me it's more confusing if ur talking about how gay you are and then people see you with a boyfriend/girlfriend. I guess it's not that big of a deal but it's def a pet peeve of mine and rubs me the wrong way.

#also one time my friends had a powerpoint night and my one friend's was like “Top 5 most homophobic and Top 5 gayest disney princesses” #really stupid I know #and the top 3 were like "I see her as bi #I see her as pan #I see her as aro/ace and I'm like “none of that is gay” and she's like #“it's an umbrella term” and she's not even lgbt herself (well she identified as ace back then and then bi and now says she's straight) so i #just rubbed me the wrong way that she called it an umbrella term because it's not idk why this bothers me so much though #if any bisexuals follow me can you explain this? or say why you like/don't like it. I want to hear the bi perspective on this #also anon I meant to ask this first thing in the tags but what do you think? #thanks for the ask! #anon ask #lgbtq discourse

[chaos-in-one]

People who make half their damn account about how much they hate/dislike a certain lgbtq+ label will forever be wild to me

Like does something like that really take up that much of your thinking instead of... literally any of the many WAY more impactful problems that exist? Seriously? Other people's personal labels is what is bothering you enough to post about it that often?

#lgbtq discourse #label discourse #lesboy #mspec lesbian #mspec gay #bi lesbian #bi gay #gaybian #turigirl #^ I do not ID with many of these they are just examples of ones I see this commonly happen with

[xx-slug-xx]

Hey @rittz :) this is my side blog so I’m replying to you in a post. If you want to reply to whatever I say here, then I’d really appreciate it if you just did so through reblog if that’s fine with you lol

First of all, I’m not uncomfortable with my identity whatsoever. I wouldn’t even say I exist in a middle ground either, and I’m also not uncomfortable with that fact about myself. I cannot control my identity, and I’m perfectly fine with that, but that doesn’t mean that my identity isn’t complex. I love being complex! This is especially true when talking about sexuality. Humans are complicated creatures after all, so I am no different. I actually don’t lean on any one single label to describe my sexuality, because multiple labels are able to define me in some way. I don’t know what to tell you, but I find it redundant that people expect every person on this planet to adhere to there personal expectations for any given label, especially for those in the LGBTQ+ community. I’m not apologetic about that, or the fact that I don’t fit into your personal definition for any given term. You say I’m “not actually asexual”, however, you know nothing about me besides the post that you commented on. You don’t know my life, my sexual history, or what lead me to use the label in the first place. People use labels for different reasons. Most people don’t just uses a label because it sounds cool. They choose a label that they personally feels best defines them. I am no different. Labels for my sexual identity aren’t for others to apply to me, it’s for me to apply to myself based on my own personal life experiences.

I find it funny that you have claimed to not be aphobic. However, most of the points you’ve made have been, inherently, aphobic talking points. “you’re too young”, “you don’t have the sexual experience to know”, “not being a sexual person can be normal”, and “you haven’t found the right person” are all aphobic talking points, and yet, you used all of them in some capacity. You can claim you aren’t aphobic all you want, but it’s obvious that you have internalize aphobia in some form due to how you discuss this issue. And to address these points, I’m an adult (21) whose more than capable of knowing what I want, and I have absolutely no desire for sexual intimacy with another person. It’s not that hard to understand, both for myself and for others. My age doesn’t dictate anything about my sexuality or how much I am aware of it’s affect on me, and the same goes for others in the LGBTQ+ community. I find it rude that you make assumptions about my sexual history due to my age and due to the fact that I do not fit into your personal deffiniton for “asexual”. It’s much more rude when you know you’ve said aphobic things and are inherently being exclusionist, and try to deflect it by saying you aren’t. This goes for anyone. It’s a bad argument when you say one thing while trying to make yourself look better by saying that the opposite is true. It’s not too dissimilar to “I’m not racist, but-”, though obviously, it’s not exact. You can say you aren’t trying to be rude and whatever else, but that doesn’t make what you have to say change it’s meaning into something that someone won’t take as being objectively rude.

You’re right in saying that asexual and allosexual are not sliding scales. It’s a spectrum, but that’s sexuality in general. People use labels for different reasons. Personally, I have found that using the asexual label to define me is a whole lot easier when I have to discuss my sexuality with others. If I were to go into depth, it would be an essay. I’m not going to confuse others with a long-winded response to a simple question. Telling people “I’m asexual” is more comfortable for me and for others. I also do not need to explain my sexuality in depth to anyone, and that includes you. Nobody has the right to know everything about me, let alone why I chose a specific label. That’s the whole point in labels, partially, in my opinion. A single word that can be used to define and simplify a very complex aspect of a person, that’s how I see labels.

It’s also more than strange to me that you, someone who isn’t asexual, is trying to define what the term means for us. This assumption is based on the fact that you only refer to other people as being asexual, and not yourself. If you don’t apply to this label, then who are you to tell us how we are supposed to use it? Now I could be wrong in this, if so, then let me know.

You’re also trying to imply that I imagine allosexuals as people who are always horny. Which isn’t true for me and how almost every person defines the term “allosexual”. You’re coming up with arguments that are based purely on hypotheticals. Your also implying that libido and sexual atraction are the same thing, which they aren’t. I, and anyone else, can be horny and not want to be sexually intimate and/or experience attraction. Don’t equate a biological response to stimuli that people experience and say that every time someone feels horny (or really, any form of arousal), then they are feeling sexual attraction. That’s a very dangerous way of thinking. An example for why this is true would be people with P-OCD who experience any form of arousal from their intrusive thoughts, which is quite commonly found in any sexually-themed intrusive thoughts. Key word is intrusive thoughts, as they are unwanted and people who experience these thoughts are often disgusted by them. Though it’s unwanted, they feel arousal nonetheless. This arousal does not mean they are attracted to these thoughts, or the idea of acting on them. It’s just how the brain and body work together. You can do your own research on the topic if you don’t believe me.

The LGBTQ+ community is full of labels that can change meaning depending on how an individual defines that term for themselves. An example would be calling yourself “gay”. Gay is most often used to define people who experience homosexual attraction. However, different people will use it in different ways. It doesn’t just mean that someone is a gay man or a lesbian. A lot of bisexual people, pansexual people, and others will use the term “gay” to describe themselves. People generally call themselves gay if they feel any sort of attraction, in any amount, towards someone who isn’t the opposite gender. People also commonly call themselves gay if they are attracted to agender, non-binary, and/or genderfluid people. However, for some people, when applied to that specific individual, “gay” means they are only attracted to people of the same gender. The point is, the label “gay” doesn’t just have one stagnant meaning applied to it. It all depends on how an individual is defining it for themselves, not for others. The same can be said for asexual people as well, from my personal experience with myself and the asexual community.

From my experience with people who describe themselves using “asexual”, or any other label under the ace umbrella, their lack of sexual attraction has a much larger role in their sexuality than any sort of feeling of allosexuality does. Aceflux, grey ace, and demisexual are all a few examples of labels people use when they fit into the ace spectrum in some fashion. If you try to argue that these well established labels for peoples’ sexualities do not exist, then I cannot feel comfortable arguing about this with you. It is not appropriate to discuss the existence of other people and their experience with their sexuality in a way that at all insinuates that they are “wrong” or that these sexualities “do not exist”.

I typically use the label “aegosexual” because I fit into that term to the T. However, most people don’t know what that word even is. I also don’t want to explain it to people constantly. Because it fits under the asexual umbrella, I just use “asexual” when I’m in the real world. Or, I just say “queer”. It’s really not a big deal and it doesn’t hurt people. It doesn’t even muddle the original term in any fashion, from my standpoint at least, because it tells people “oh, this person doesn’t like sex, doesn’t have sex, and doesn’t wish to have sex”, which is true for me. That’s all it needs to be, and I don’t owe people any more than that, or even anything if I really think about it.

Quite frankly, anyone who tries to tell me what I’m allowed to call myself based on my perception of my own life experiences is a fool to me. I’m a random internet stranger, and people only know me based on my posts. I don’t post every aspect about myself, and I don’t need to either. If I find a different label that better defines me, then I will use that one. Or if I find that something about my sexuality changes in the future, then I will change my label. But right here, in this moment, this is the label that I feel best defines me. Nobody is going to convince me that I’m wrong about something I’ve had to live with my whole life. I don’t tell you what you can call yourself, you shouldn’t tell me what to call myself either.

#lgbtq+ #discource #lgbtq discourse #asexual #asexuality #ace pride

[aroxbetchio]

some ppl have got to stop using ‘straight’ to refer to non-lgbtq+ members lmao. there are straight transfolk. there are straight intersex people. there are straight aroallos and alloaces. there are straight people in the lgbtq+ community. how do ppl not understand that.

#lgbt #lgbtq #lgbtq discourse #alloace #aroallo #trans #transhet #elliot’s posts 🐍

[bli-o]

Hey hey, im an (unfortunately) female presenting enby ace who is aroflux, occasionally being romantically attracted to women and enbies(you could call me acearoflux demineptunoromantic but thats a damned prescriptivist mouthful)

i face homophobia in my day to day due to romantic attraction to women, I have an opinion to share!

cis heteroromantic aces are an entirely valid part of the LGBTQ community who go through some of the worst aspects of aphobia, especially women.

in hetero relationships allonormativity is ESPECIALLY common. I am so glad I’m not attracted to men because straight men just have sexual expectations so much more than women.

i dont ever want to be in a relationship where the other person is disappointed that I dont want sexual activity. It would undoubtedly be harder to find someone when your dating pool is mostly straight men.

we need to suck up this “cishet aces are still privileged” bullshit. Maybe they are, sure, but everyone who isnt allo, cis, and straight goes through their own struggles, entirely individual to their own orientation. I don’t give a shit about whatever privilege meter people have made up for my fellow queers. Heteroromantic aces struggle too. That’s what the LGBTQ movement is about, fighting for EVERYONE’S equality. Everyone who is threatened can unite under our flag, even if they dont have it as bad as others.

A queer’s a queer and that’s that.

#lgbt community #lgbtq+ #lgbt #lgbtq #lgbt pride #lgbtq community #lgbtqia #lgbtq pride #lgbtqia+ #queer #asexual #asexuality #aromantic #cishet ace #lgbt rights #lgbtq discourse #prescriptivism #inclusivity #Aphobia #acephobia #blios rants

[sophieinwonderland]

"Call me crazy, but I like being straight and just thinking "what if I thought I was attracted to girls" is distressing.

"Them proudly declaring the future is trans doesn't make it sound too scary, and I don't like that."

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"Call me crazy, but I like being a guy in my own body and just thinking "what if I thought I was a girl" is distressing.

"Them proudly declaring the future is gay doesn't make it sound too scary, and I don't like that."

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"Call me crazy, but I like sex and just thinking "what if I was asexual or sex repulsed" is distressing.

"Them proudly declaring the future is ace doesn't make it sound too scary, and I don't like that."

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Gods we could go on and on about this, but 3 examples is probably enough to drive the point home. Just the sheer mask off-ness of it all. They are scared of being plural, so they need to make it everyone else's problem. "I don't want to live it a world in which other people are not distressed by the same things I'm distressed by" is such a conservative, reactionary take.

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Anyways, sorry for venting in your ask box! Hoping you are having a great day Sophie!

-Foxy

This is so true! All these different points boil down to fear of people who are different, or fears of becoming like them. And I think, more than that, fear of the outgroup being accepted.

Conservatives and the alt-right are masters of this sort of thinking, but you see it with queer exclusionists and TERFs just as much. They all have this sort of mentality that other people being accepted is something bad and scary and needs to be fought against.

And I find it especially sad when it's coming from those groups because they should know better, having been victims of these same sorts of attacks themselves.

Totally agree on everything! And wishing you a great day too, Foxy! 😁💖💖💖

And remember, The Future is Plural!✊

#syscourse #pro endogenic #pro endo #lgbt #queer #lgbtq #lgbt discourse #lgbtq discourse #pluralphobia #homophobia #transphobia #sysblr #multiplicity #actually plural #actually a system

[notthebeststufftbh]

The bi lesbian discourse is so stupid. Haven't we done this a hundred times? It was xenopronouns and trans people and aro/ace people and bisexuality before that. What have we learned about limiting and gatekeeping queerness from YOUR OWN PEOPLE? Nothing at all?

#you can do whatever you want forever #let people live for gods sake #sincerely a bisexual #lgbtq+ #lgbtq discourse #bi lesbian #bi lesbian discourse #bisexuality