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"Old Orsinium"
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jauffre · 1 year
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ELDER SCROLLS ONLINE: LOADING SCREENS
↳ OUTLAWS REFUGES [1/2]
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beastiesandsundries · 10 months
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The Orsimer Deserved Better. The lore for the Orcs in The Elder Scrolls has a lot of potential. Pariah-folk, isolated and marginalized and heavily misunderstood. Again, playing into the age old Tolkien trope of the "corrupted elves" (I.e being transformed by painting themselves in the remains of their patron God Trinimac). With Trinimac being a battle-centered deity, when he transforms into Malacath, it DOES make sense that his followers would form a warrior culture. There's a lot of material here to do some wildly creative worldbuilding! But instead, the poor Orsimer are just another group that Todd and his goons threw into the "primitive savages" heap. 
The writing took a very basic list of qualities- value of strength above all, collective marginalization and isolationist living and made them just another fantasy Barbarian culture, with a brutal code that values physical strength and dominance, and rampant misogyny.   Never mind the very real and problematic racist undertones- it's just lazy.  You see the strongholds in Skyrim and you're almost meant to think, "well no wonder they're isolated and shunned when they live like this!" 
What if that wasn't the case, though. What if, instead, what we see in the strongholds is what the outsider thinks and writes down and spreads as fact? What if Orsimer society values strength in all its forms, rather than just ferocity in battle? What if they were shunned simply because their culture and values are so unorthodox and foreign to the rest of the races of men and men that they're lumped in with the beast races who are just as unique (and, importantly, also poorly represented with a ton of racist stereotypes. Todd.) Can you IMAGINE how interesting that would be?  It would be such a unique departure from the standard watered-down DnD orcs that are in, like, every fantasy setting. I feel like in comparison to some of the other Elder Scrolls races, the Orsimer really got screwed over in the creativity department.  It's just lazy.  I know that there is absolutely no shortage of lazy crap in TES, but tbh I think that there really is a lot of potential for us in the community to redefine the Orsimer.
(I've been playing with Children of the Pariah and it has been giving me a lot of Orc feels. The details in the mod already add a lot of thought and depth to their Stronghold identity- just the reasoning behind the war paint added so much that it got me thinking. Yes! Orcish art and symbolism!)
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namekian-maoh · 2 months
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If you have Elder Scrolls Online, make sure to log in & claim March's rewards!
Day 2 is the Orsinium DLC‼️
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Followed by several crown crates, a pet and a mount.
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Old Orsinium, P2
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silver-horse · 1 month
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Excuse me!
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whosyourvladi · 1 year
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uesp · 2 years
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Vestige: "What do you want?"
Malacath: "Light the great pyre so my wrath can smolder for another generation. Breach the gates as invaders breached Old Orsinium."
Vestige: "Why can't you just open it?"
Malacath: "You wish the Daedric Prince of Vengeance to help you open a door? "Jiggle the handle?" Life is a struggle, mortal. Use what little sense you have and surpass this mighty ordeal. Or bite out your tongue and bleed to death."
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tophattable · 22 days
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Found in the Wrothgar Library
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"Orc Clan Banners"
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Art by Corey Loving
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sage-gamer · 1 month
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Kurog gro-Orsinium is dead
Orsinium has a new king.
Our Wood-Elf has done what she can to help secure the Orcish city from ruin but Orsinium's alliance with the Daggerfall Covenant has been put into question.
Dannidella has travelled back home to Valenwood where she has met Arbur Tharn and is now on a new quest to save Elsweyr from dragons.
Her fit for the extreme climate transformed once again. At least it's not snowing.
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thieves-oasis · 1 month
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nothing but Valdea gro-Eashi on the brain. gotta love trans orc women ❤️💕💕💕❤️❤️❤️✨✨
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ladyluscinia · 1 month
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I have finally gotten around to playing through the Orsinium questline in ESO for the first time, and I think the whole thing actually makes much more sense if you headcanon that the real "villain" of the chapter is Boethiah.
Like... Ok, so the fundamental problem with revealing that Kurog plans to kill all the chiefs who won't bend the knee and seize power by force to implement his orc kingdom vision is that if he simply said that part openly then it would just be orc politics? Probably the kind that would get some orcs judging him for being too bloodthirsty / ambitious, but he openly murdered a chief in his throne room and everyone just shrugged at how emotional orc men are. The culture that does ritual challenges and death duels for leadership positions absolutely would accept a guy taking over rival clans and killing off their leaders as a valid method of (temporary) kingmaking, even if a bit gauche.
Mixing it up by adding the whole Trinimac vs Malacath religious angle doesn't really do anything, either, since his attempts to impose a new state religion help explain why diplomacy isn't working but not why force wouldn't work. Trinimac is if anything more of a warrior god than Malacath, and you would think worshippers of a champion of honor would be even less inclined to use a secret cult to frame their political enemies and scapegoat for assassinations. They'd become corrupt crusaders or something. Also they kinda suck at the subterfuge part - like a Boethiah plot being enacted by small children.
...So what if it was a Boethiah plot??? 👀
Follow my train of thought here - Boethiah is down to fuck with Malacath / the orcs for reasons ranging from "it's Tirdas" to "my inter-cult gladiatorial fights are boring recently", going all the way back to the original incident of eating Trinimac to stop his cult from interfering with the Chimer, pretending to be him for some light heresy, and then leaving him twisted into Malacath (and turning his elven followers into orcs).
Boethiah is also a Daedric Prince associated with plots, conspiracy, deceiving nations, and overthrowing governments to seize power.
I think it sounds fantastically plausible that Boethiah would notice an orc trying to restore Orsinium and all the ingredients for a truly fantastic implosion of a civil war among Malacath's children (including of all things a resurgence of Trinimac worship, which is bait if I've ever seen it) and decide to start backing a faction. For chaos. Especially since Boethiah's other main canonical thing going on in this timeframe is inspiring a Dunmer woman named Vox to start a cult to overthrow the Tribunal, while also appearing to a hero as an avatar named "Aspera" to help them kill Vox for the fuck of it.
(Boethiah is so fun 😆)
So here's the rough skeleton of how I headcanon all this connecting:
🗡️ Kurog doesn't seem to be a particularly devout Trinimac worshipper, and High Priestess Solgra mentions him being skeptical at first - implying she was invited to Orsinium by his mother before he truly converted. Solgra is definitely a true believer who converted in Summerset, while Forge-Mother Alga is definitely the driving force behind the very un-Trinimac-like Vosh Rakh.
🗡️ It seems like the Forge-Mother is the first one who got on the Trinimac train, possibly around when Kurog was first joining the Covenant and starting his Orsinium project. I'm guessing there was a small Trinimac following in Wrothgar without much clout, but they managed to catch Alga's interest. And, I'm speculating, Boethiah's.
🗡️ Alga apparently goes in hard on Trinimac. She's inviting a High Priestess to set up a giant temple, angling to convert her son, and soon declaring Trinimac worship the law of the land. She's also fully embracing a political schemer role that is not remotely in line with Trinimac's vibe and soon to establish a secret police cult that she can publicly disavow. Despite this, I think Alga's far more devout than Kurog ever is - she genuinely seems to think she's getting divine blessing.
🗡️ Theory - A little while after Alga converts, her new god bestows his favor on her and starts directly communicating / inspiring her to set up all the Vosh Rakh stuff... only it's actually Boethiah, speaking to her while impersonating Trinimac in a classic move. Explains the backstabbing, subterfuge, planned coup, all of it. She brings in Solgra to be the palatable face (and convince her son) while not noticing at all that there's some cognitive dissonance in her actions vs teachings. Ah, the hubris of a "chosen one."
🗡️ Boethiah is having a grand time making orcs unknowingly turn away from Malacath for her while thinking they serve Trinimac, and getting to whisper "kill all the chiefs loyal to Malacath and frame the (actual) Trinimac High Priestess for it" is just the icing on the cake. Would Alga and Kurog's plan have just started a civil war? Probably. And Boethiah would have been thrilled. Shame Bazrag managed to reduce casualties at the end, but it was still very worth the destabilizing. 😌
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rvnwtch · 2 months
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Anyone who doesn’t already own the Orsinium DLC is getting SUCH a good deal tomorrow
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madameriascreenshots · 2 months
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Ushang the Untamed
"Have you not heard about the wailing of the wild? The terror of the trees? The agonies of ... of something properly alliterative but still very very wild?
I may appear to be here, simply eating bread, but I am out among the stones and stars as well."
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devexus · 1 year
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And the aftermath. At least Bazrag was waiting for everything to wrap up. Don’t think Albus would’ve made it back through the tunnels on his own.
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