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funeral · 3 months
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“Hell is other people” has always been misunderstood. It has been thought that what I meant by that was that our relations with other people are always poisoned, that they are invariably hellish relations. But what I really mean is something totally different. I mean that if relations with someone else are twisted, vitiated, then that other person can only be hell. Why? Because…when we think about ourselves, when we try to know ourselves,…we use the knowledge of us which other people already have. We judge ourselves with the means other people have and have given us for judging ourselves. Into whatever I say about myself someone else’s judgment always enters. Into whatever I feel within myself someone else’s judgment enters…But that does not at all mean that one cannot have relations with other people. It simply brings out the capital importance of all other people for each one of us.
Jean-Paul Sartre on the line “Hell is other people” in a talk that preceded a recording of his play “No Exit”, 1965
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savasbitti · 2 months
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"Başkalarının yüzlerinde bir anlam var. Benimkinde yok. Güzel mi çirkin mi ona bile karar veremiyorum. Çirkin galiba söylemişlerdi bana çünkü. Ama bu beni şaşırtmıyor."
J.P. Sartre
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sissa-arrows · 3 months
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Albert Camus is rotting in hell along with Sarte and Simone de Beauvoir.
Sartre and Simone de Beauvoir are actually who I was thinking about when I quickly mentioned the “121’s manifest” and how some of the people who signed it (Beauvoir didn’t) turned around to become Zionists. Proving that it wasn’t about indigenous rights but about washing their conscience. They weren’t defending the right to not be oppressed but “the right not be an oppressor” (yes the right to not be an oppressor was actually mentioned like oppression is okay but only if you choose to be an oppressor)
To be fair I don’t like any of the famous French “intellectuals” who pretended to stand against colonialism. My respect is for those who got their hands dirty and took actual risks.
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thegildedcentury · 1 year
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Only The Future Crabs Can Judge Me: Disco Elysium and The Politics of Failure
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onekindredspirit · 7 months
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Sartre offered a clarification about his much misunderstood phrase:
"Hell is other people" has always been misunderstood. It has been thought that what I meant by that was that our relations with other people are always poisoned, that they are invariably hellish relations. But what I really mean is something totally different. I mean that if relations with someone else are twisted, vitiated, then that other person can only be hell. Why? Because … when we think about ourselves, when we try to know ourselves … we use the knowledge of us which other people already have. We judge ourselves with the means other people have and have given us for judging ourselves.
As Rugnetta explains: "Hell is other people because you are, in some sense, forever trapped within them, subject to their apprehension of you."
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scoobhead · 3 months
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quinintheclouds · 1 year
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okay don’t get me wrong I love The Good Place and obviously it’s a fantastic piece of media, so this post is lighthearted and in good fun -- but no matter how many times I rewatch I STILL cannot get over how they spent 4 seasons talking about moral philosophy without:
1) So much as mentioning Benjamin Constant?? Despite Chidi’s idol being Immanuel fucking Kant??? I kept WAITING for him to bring it up because Constant was the philosopher who proposed the key counterargument to Kant’s rigid idealism, by posing a scenario in which a known serial killer comes to your door and asks where your friend is hiding so he can kill them. By Kantian ethics, it’d be more moral to tell him the truth, because lying is “always inherently wrong,” and he justified it by arguing you’re not responsible for what the killer does with that information.
This was like. Chidi’s main dilemma for most of the series and the source of most of his pain in life. Not to mention that rigid moral structure made his ethical decisions throughout the show Constant-ly Kantradictory. Someone get me in a room with him, I need to know how he’d respond to that thought experiment, dammit!!!
2) Ever exploring Sartre, when the show itself is CLEARLY based on the premise of Sartre’s play No Exit, in which 3 people are sent to Hell to live in one room together for eternity, selected to torture one another without knowing it, and it is torture because they consist of a lesbian who’s in love with the straight woman in love with the gay man. That play is the origin of the famous philosophical quote “Hell is other people.” There’s even an episode title that makes a pun on that phrase: “Help is Other People”!!! The perspective of the play is that prolonged emotional torture (especially inflicted via others in an exchange of mutual torment) is a worse pain than any physical torture could bring. Sound familiar?
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sidleyparkhermit · 4 months
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A classmate of mine at the lycée told me that Jews "annoy" him because of the thousands of injustices that "Jew‐ridden" social organizations commit in their favour. "A Jew passed his agrégation the year I was failed, and you can't make me believe that that fellow, whose father came from Cracow or Lemberg, understood a poem by Ronsard or an eclogue by Virgil better than I." But he admitted that he disdained the agrégation as a mere academic exercise, and that he didn't study for it. Thus, to explain his failure, he made use of two systems of interpretation, like those madmen who, when they are far gone in their madness, pretend to be the King of Hungary but, if questioned sharply, admit to being shoemakers. His thoughts moved on two planes without his being in the least embarrassed by it. As a matter of fact, he will in time manage to justify his past laziness on the grounds that it really would be too stupid to prepare for an examination in which Jews are passed in preference to good Frenchmen. Actually he ranked twenty‐seventh on the official list. There were twenty‐six ahead of him, twelve who passed and fourteen who failed. Suppose Jews had been excluded from the competition; would that have done him any good? And even if he had been at the top of the list of unsuccessful candidates, even if by eliminating one of the successful candidates he would have had a chance to pass, why should the Jew Weil have been eliminated rather than the Norman Mathieu or the Breton Arzell?
RIP to this guy who went to high school with Jean-Paul Sartre and is now immortalized solely for being racist and dumb
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philosophors · 10 months
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“I am alone in the midst of these happy, reasonable voices. All these creatures spend their time explaining, realizing happily that they agree with each other. In Heaven's name, why is it so important to think the same things all together.”
— Jean-Paul Sartre, “Nausea”
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tedhugheshater · 11 months
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so.
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epicforwards · 3 months
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"Those who lack the courage will always find a philosophy to justify it."
-- Albert Camus
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funeral · 4 months
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Jean-Paul Sartre, No Exit
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jezebelswar · 10 months
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imimmaterial · 4 months
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born to be an existentialist forced to accept that actually humans are neither born nor forced to do or be anything. we are only condemned to be free and create our own existence. therefore if i want to be an existentialist i must chart the path myself.
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helenaredamancy · 2 years
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The price of love is loss but still we pay. We love anyway.
A man wrote to me: We missed it, you and I. We were meant to mean a great deal to one another; but we missed it.
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There must have been a moment, at the beginning, where we could have said -- no. But somehow we missed it. Oh well, we'll know better next time.
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The lover wants what he does not have. It is by definition impossible for him to have what he wants if, as soon as it is had, it is no longer wanting.
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INEZ [almost tenderly]: Why did you hurt her like that?
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MELCHIOR. Goodbye, Moritz. Thank you for coming back to see me. I shall remember all the happy carefree hours we spent together. I promise you that, whatever happens to me in the future, however I may alter with the years, you I will never forget. MORITZ. Thank you. You're still my best friend.
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1. next to normal 2. correspondence in after years (dh lawrence) 3. hadestown (nytw version) 4. rosencrantz and guildenstern are dead 5,8. no exit 6. eros the bittersweet 7. company 9. portrait of a lady on fire 10. spring awakening (1891) 11. farewell to arms
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