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inanitate · 1 year
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people be like “andrey/goncharov are literal soulmates! a greek tragedy! they’re star-crossed, goncharov killing andrey was how they were meant to end up, but they loved each other throughout every betrayal and every gunshot!!” when katya and sofia and “the world wants you dead” “do you want me dead? “never” “then the world doesn’t want me dead” iS RIGHT THERE
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constant-brain-fog · 1 year
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Gaslight, Gatekeep, Goncharov
The Clock Scene and the constant reminders of it throughout the movie really hit me as you can see, you cannot get the Gonch without the Clock 😌
Best Scorsese movie ever, I cry every time i watch it.
Thank you @beelzeebub you cured my artblock✨
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artemis-pendragon · 1 year
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Just a few of my favorite quotes from Goncharov (1973) that I think need more love and appreciation:
"If I could stop time but still feel your heart beating, then time would stand still forever."
"What's your poison?" "Whatever you're having, darling." (Aka that line in THEE cocktail scene)
"I'll stay with you tonight, if you'll have me." "I wouldn't have anyone else."
"When we got married, I drew this line between us and the world. You've crossed that line, and I can't go with you. You and I are, I think, finally out of time."
"Broken mirrors are bad luck, you know. That clock is silver-backed glass, and you can see yourself in its face. Is that not a mirror?" "If I were cursed, Sofia, then I would never have found you." "You could still lose me." "Never."
"Time is like blood, and I have spilled both."
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kazisonline · 1 year
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Anyone who watched Goncharov and does not pick up on the clear sapphic story between Sophia and Katya is just really blind or does not want to see it. Day/Night dynamic, the way Sophia LOOKS at her when she thinks she can't see her, and most importantly "you could've been my sun"???!?!?!?!!? Come on for fuck's sake
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thecutiecollective · 1 year
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violetheart77 · 1 year
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THE QUEEN HAS FINALLY ARRIVED
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AT LONG LAST THE SET IS COMPLETE
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All the thanks in the world to @kurtcobainsgreencardigan for managing to track down a clear screenshot of our favorite Be Gay Do Crime Girlboss!
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snappysprinkledog · 1 year
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Thinking about how katya fought to escape her past refusing to acknowledge or keep anything that would remind people of it existing, and then sofia comes along and with her all the memories of when katyas life was somewhat similar, and that's the true tragedy of katya and Sofia, they could be so close (they could be so in love) but Katya can't because she can't learn to love what she sees of herself in sofia because that means having to accept and deal with her own past, and that wall that katya has unintentionally put up trying to protect herself how she has all her life is so so clear to sofia, and Sofia can't let herself truly trust katya
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red-sea-itinerary · 3 months
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art by @tooboredforthis (of course), @cryptidlark, and myself (@thecrenellations)
more Lion Hunters memes 🥰⚔️📚
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djungelblog · 1 year
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A lot of people have been pointing out the obvious homoeroticism in both the sofya and gonchrey smoking scenes, and yes there’s undoubtedly a lot of gay undertones in both. But I also feel like the smoking itself is symbolic. It was in the late 60s that doctors and scientists began realizing the real dangers of smoking, and the government began to put out anti-smoking PSAs. The early 70s were when smoking was juuust starting to turn from a cool (and almost universal) activity to more of a harmful, self-destructive practice. And both of those attitudes come into play in these smoking scenes.
Sofia sits on Katya’s lap and blows smoke into her face, symbolizing the destructive nature of their relationship: how it toes the line between love and hate, how it harms both of them both because of the relationship itself and its repercussions on their lives, how they’re both hooked on each other regardless — but also how, in the end, one of them is always reaching towards the other, never both getting the same satisfaction. At the beginning of the movie, Katya is drawing Sofia in as a kind of power play, more out of a desire for autonomy and an escape from her marriage with Goncharov (and yes, they do have a bond, but it’s almost completely platonic imo). But by the end, Katya is desperate for Sofia’s love while Sofia is just trying to save herself from the situation she’s been tangled up in. That’s why, after the boat scene, we see Sofia lighting a cigarette as she leaves, the smoke drifting towards Katya, who breathes it in as she watches her go.
The scene with Goncharov and Andrey in the church tower is more clear-cut, but the symbolism is still important. Goncharov lights his cigarette first, and then, when Andrey produces one of his own, Goncharov lights Andrey’s with the tip of his cigarette. This represents how Goncharov was the one who first began his self-destructive path (and who first initiated the homoerotic tension between them), but this soon passed on to Andrey — culminating, of course, in his broken-hearted betrayal of Goncharov. The destruction sparked by Goncharov’s actions, simultaneously self-centered and self-destructive, ultimately lingers with Andrey, long after they end up killing Goncharov at the end of the movie. This is why, at the end of the scene, we see a close-up of their discarded cigarettes: Goncharov stamps out his own with his shoe, while Andrey’s is left smoldering, never quite going out.
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golge-gezgin · 11 months
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Anlamlı bir hayat bana göre zengin olmak, popüler olmak, çok eğitimli olmak ya da mükemmel olmak değildir. Bence anlamlı bir hayat gerçek olmakla, alçakgönüllü olmakla, güçlü olmakla, kendimize kattıklarımızı ve sahip olduklarımızı paylaşmakla ve başkalarının hayatına dokunabilmekle ilgilidir. Bütün bunları yaparken de, o hayatı en anlamlı kılan şey nefesini kesen anılara sahip olmaktır. Aslında hayat nefes aldığımız anlardan değil nefesimizi kesen anlardan ibarettir. ( Cardwell, Avustralya Günlükleri )
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[ Bulgaristan, Sofya, 18.05.2023 ]
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lollipopsie · 1 year
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"You're fascinating."
the world if katya survived [image of katya and sofia getting gay married in greece]
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leitnerpiper420 · 1 year
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i truly love the cinematography of goncharov. the scenes without dialogue are so quiet yet so loud. the unspoken words, the tension. the longing hidden between glances and quick brushes of fingertips against your secret lovers lips as katya lights sofias cigarette. the mournful goodbyes when andrey shoots goncharov, how andreys hand trembles ever so slightly as goncharov whispers the words "you didn't miss" and his wet chuckle when he responds "lucky shot" implying that he was lucky to have ever met goncharov in the first place. hidden desire in the shape of fruit and lit cigarettes and the ringing of gunshots. "if you truly loved me, you wouldn't have missed" god. its so fucking beautiful.
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artemis-pendragon · 1 year
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Red and White: A meta analysis of color and the subversion of morality in Martin Scorsese's Goncharov (1973)
Katya Goncharova
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By now everyone knows that Katya is the Woman in White. Aside from the obvious ghost/haunting implications of this color scheme, white can be used to signal purity, something Katya should, by all accounts, have left far behind.
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So is this a subversion of a cliche and outdated ideal of purity (although not at the time of the film's creation, making this possibility even more daring and subversive), or is there another meaning? Virginity and innocence are only two types of purity. There is also love, and the complex purity that often accompanies it. Katya is, at her heart, a very emotional and loving person. She may not show it as openly or loudly as Sofia, but it's undeniably there: her love for her husband, and, of course, for Sofia.
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It's also an interesting departure from the red/black femme fatale/black widow color schemes of Soviet women spies and assassins in films made around the same time. Katya is a killer and a player in this deadly game, yes, but at her core she wants so desperately to be a good person, to escape the life her husband has condemned himself to. Katya hopes, against all odds, that love can redeem her. Perhaps her insistence on always wearing white is meant to hint at her longing for innocence and purity, even though her hands are already stained red.
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Love and its complexities, as well as the discussion of traditional red and black color schemes used for femme fatales brings me to
Sofia
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Sofia is both Katya's foil and mirror. She challenges Katya's morality by upholding her own, living off a value system that, while twisted in its own way, is ultimately one of the strongest moral compasses in the film. Her descent into the role of killer is not only Katya's doing; Sofia was destined for bloodshed long before they even met, and only comes into her own as a real player after the cocktail scene. This is demonstrated through Sofia's red and black color scheme, which, as I mentioned earlier, is typically associated with femme fatales and black widows.
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However, Sofia also wears white, notably at the end of the film after the Boat Scene, after her descent into destruction and The Life. This shot is especially powerful, as it uses a red backdrop to emphasize the change that Sofia has gone through, and her merging with Katya while also retaining her own history and morality.
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While she starts out as Katya's foil, over the course of the film the two women begin to merge, their twisted morality aligning until Sofia's femme fatale false persona become her truth. It is only then that she comes into her own and begins wearing white, and, interestingly, that half white/half red color pink: the mixed feelings and emotions of a changing woman.
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Ultimately, color plays a critical role in Goncharov, especially in the portrayal of Sofia and Katya and their complex, emotional, and ultimately tragic joined fate. Sofia loses the vibrant reds and deep blacks of her scheme after the Cocktail Scene, which is when it seems that she's finally accepted her feelings for Katya and lost herself to that lifestyle. She has spilled blood, and the red of her clothes becomes the red on her hands.
For example, this is Sofia's outfit before and during the Boat Scene:
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This is her outfit directly before the Cocktail Scene:
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Tumblr won't allow me to add another image (reached my limit ranting it seems lol) but in Sofia's final scenes, she is seen in all white, just like Katya.
Winter has, truly, come to Naples, and it has swept Sofia up in its bitter white embrace--the embrace of a colder, more calculating mindset and morality, as well as the literal embrace of Katya Goncharova, her salvation and her doom.
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kazisonline · 1 year
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"And yet, somehow you're still here. You're still by my side, easing my mind. Why, Sofia? Are you not you afraid of all the things you could lose?"
"I am. I am afraid I could lose you, my dear"
Goncharov (1973)
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thecutiecollective · 1 year
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Sofya
IG: Sosyyya
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📷 Stepan Gladkov
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violetheart77 · 1 year
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BUT WAIT, THERE’S MORE!
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