#the wrong jedi

[stealingpotatoes]

hey hear me out what if anakin and ahsoka actually remembered they had friends outside the jedi order (ie padme) and ahsoka joined padme's spies etc. hear me out

(ko-fi requests are open!)

#ahsoka tano #anakin skywalker #sabé #star wars #star wars the clone wars #swtcw #the wrong jedi #sabe #my doods #ahsoké au #comic

[nateofgreat]

One thing that kind of annoys is when people talk like Barriss's random betrayal was somehow planned all along.

Like please tell me again that Dave Filoni had some master plan all the way back in Season 2 to introduce a cameo character (Barriss is not his creation she was there was a cameo) where she's depicted as selfless, compassionate, and a better Jedi than Ahsoka. Someone willing to lay down her life for others and face said death peacefully without any lingering trauma as she's fine the next episode.

Then completely forget about her for two whole seasons just to drag her back in S5 to be a purely evil villain because Dave needed someone to betray Ahsoka and he realized she was the only friend he'd given her that the audience remembered. Specifically because everyone liked her so much.

There's no arc here, no master plan, no convoluted character work, or tragic story of lost faith. Just a sloppy, hastily written arc meant to boot Ahsoka out of the Jedi before the show ended so she could survive Order 66. Just for Dave to have her circle back to the Jedi so she could directly survive it anyways.

Barriss wasn't (and still isn't) on some character journey. She was just a victim of circumstance.

Also no. Her acting calm doesn't mean that she was actually "repressed :(" by the meanie Jedi.

#Star Wars #Barriss Offee #Dave Filoni critical #The Clone Wars critical #TCW critical #The Wrong Jedi #Ahsoka Tano critical #anti Ahsoka Tano #I wouldn't have such a problem with her if so many other characters weren't sacrificed to prop her up #pro Jedi

[darth-memes]

#star wars #sw memes #the clone wars #the clone wars spoilers #the wrong jedi #ahsoka tano #obi wan kenobi #plo koon #yoda #mace windu

[sunrisemcash]

Ahsoka, Anakin and the twins are playing 'Never have I ever' Luke: Never have I ever been in a jail. Ahsoka:So I drink? Leia:No no, you have to drink only if you have done it. Ahsoka drinks. Luke: I can't believe you have been arrested aunt 'Soka! Ahsoka:And I can't believe your dad hasn't! Leia: Me too!

#star wars #anakin skywalker #ahsoka tano #luke skywalker #leia skywalker #leia organa #star wars prequels #star wars original trilogy #star wars the clone wars #the wrong jedi #Source: The Big Bang Theory #george lucas #incorrect quotes #sunrisemcash's post

[devondeal]

Been talking with @jedimasterbailey and @bluedeedeedoop about the sudden flip in Barriss's fan reception since the TOTE trailer:

Gotta love how there were so few true Barriss fans who were always willing to see the potential in her story vs the majority who literally could only see her as a terrorist and a traiter saying horrible shit like she's worse than Anakin who literally commited genocide and other crimes.

Basically she wasn't a character to them. Just the person who betrayed Ahsoka. They could only see how the plot used her. Meanwhile Barriss fans payed attention to things facial expression, vocal inflection, dialogue and kept up with any scrap of an update about her for 12 YEARS.

All the while the Barriss haters and dude bros leave the nastiest comments on our threads and any Youtube video, Tik Tok, you name it, wanting to make it clear they want Vader to brutally kill her or basically their want for yet another complex Star Wars lady character to meet a horrible end.

But ever since the Tales of the Empire trailer came out her reception has been overwhelmingly positive. Don't get me wrong, this makes me really very happy. It's amazing what a little attention can do to change the narrative. But at the same time the sudden flip is a bit jarring.

Like why did it have to take a trailer to be able to see what a wonderful character Barriss is? Like I'm sorry but it's not rocket science to be able to tell that there was more to her than The Clone Wars was willing to show. Animation is VERY intentional. They would not have animated her with saddened and guilty expressions during the entire Wrong Jedi Arc.

Nor would they have wrote and partially animated the deleted scene of Barriss HUGGING AND SAYING I'M SORRY TO AHSOKA BEFORE THE TRIAL. They would have done NONE of that if the intention was a cut and dry villain.

It does not take rocket science to realize that The Clone Wars could have made their half baked terrorist plot at least make the bit amount of sense instead of having to see Jar Jar have a sex life or build up to her choices instead of a wander droid arc in early season 5 that is the literal worst.

I am happy that finally they will address Barriss in a new show with beautiful new animation. Though I am still nervous for what fate they will have her meet. And I am happy for the new Barriss fans that will come out of this series.

What I am frustrated with are the haters and dudebros. They can't just switch up. Writers deciding a character is worthy of attention is not a reason for y'all assholes who bullied Barriss fans all these years to jump on the bandwagon. Like at the fucking least admit you were wrong. Basically y'all are not welcome, idgaf

#barriss offee #barrissoka #tales of the empire #star wars #tales of the jedi #ahsoka tano #the clone wars #the wrong jedi #clone wars

[americiumam]

after their daring escape off of coruscant, our beloved trio split up to avoid the empires clutches! our heroes spend two months alone on the run, but when the time comes to reunite, their trio has become… a duo!? why hasn’t aya rejoined them?! where has she gone?! will they be able to work together without her calming presence?! find out in… the shocking disappearance!

happy anniversary!!! :3

click for better quality!! link to original under the cut!!

#the shocking disappearance #95 #sw #art #my art #Star Wars #barriss offee #gauge #my ocs #i’ll add more in a sec #the clone wars #tcw #the wrong jedi #clone oc #okay that’s enough i think. BYE!

[thecleverqueer]

I really hate that folks use the Wrong Jedi as an excuse to hate the Jedi order. There really was A LOT going on with that, and if looked at through a neutral lens, neither the Jedi nor Ahsoka were really to blame. They both just made some questionable decisions that they felt were right in the moment, and they ended up making things worse. Let me explain:

First, as an audience, we’re following Ahsoka’s POV. Because of this, we’re seeing her side unfold. That’s important. We’re seeing what she is going through. We know she didn’t bomb the temple, and the Jedi council knew this as well. After all, the council did entrust Anakin and Ahsoka to investigate the bombing initially, and trusted no other Jedi to get involved because they were sure that neither Anakin nor Ahsoka were the perpetrators while everyone else remained suspect. They were, after all, off-world when the bombing happened.

Then, things get a little hairy with the death of Letta in the cell. We know Ahsoka didn’t do it. We were in the room with her when Letta died. However, in prior scenes, Ahsoka is going off the rails about Letta “paying” or “being dealt with” for bombing the temple. Letta dying by force choke while Ahsoka happened to be talking to her alone in a cell was convenient (and I would argue that was either set up by Tarkin via Palpatine, or we could argue that Barriss wanked off so hard about how amazing Ahsoka was that Letta felt compelled to reach out her for help at the wrong moment, but either way, too convenient).

At this point, the council’s hands are tied, but I feel like they would still want to get more information before throwing the book at Ahsoka. I feel like they would have proceeded with caution, but would have probably been able to ultimately work it all out in Ahsoka’s favor. A video with no audio would not be enough evidence to convince them that Ahsoka was responsible for BOTH Letta’s death AND the bombing (especially since the Jedi were already convinced she had nothing to do with the bombing to begin with).

Then, Ahsoka does something monumentally stupid. She breaks out of her cell and tries to make a break for it. I get why she does it. First off, she was young. Second, she’d always escaped situations exactly like the one she was in when in trouble and ran away (just not when a literal system of justice was involved). Third, she was scared. And finally, she didn’t trust the process. I blame Anakin’s training primarily for her lack of trust in the process. Throughout their time together, we see them breaking rules, not placing trust in the council’s judgement (which was fair sometimes in their defense, but set a bad precedent).

Running was still a VERY BAD LOOK. And, it’s funny, because Ahsoka LITERALLY SAYS in the PRIOR episode that “running means you know more than you’re telling us” to Letta when Letta tries to make a break for it after she was caught for bombing the temple. Ahsoka KNOWS running makes one look guilty, and still… had she just kept her ass planted in that cell, it would have been fine, but… Yeah. All those dead clones between her and that door. We still know that it wasn’t Ahsoka. We were with Ahsoka on this journey. The members of the Jedi council were not. At this point, they had to look at the evidence that was in front of them. From outside of Ahsoka’s POV, it doesn’t look good. Ahsoka said it herself. Anakin tried to tell her as much too before she fled to the under-city, but at that point, she was definitely in over her head.

The council had no other options honestly. They explain this to the audience. Tarkin refused to allow the council to deal with the matter internally as the Jedi Council requested. Tarkin demanded she be sent to face justice by military tribunal. The council bent. Standing by Ahsoka would be an open act of defiance against the senate which would cause chaos for the order both politically and judicially. While a dark sense clouded the entire situation, they could do nothing. The temple had been bombed. People died. Letta was dead. Ahsoka ran. Clones died in that incident. Then, Ahsoka ended up getting apprehended right by the nano droid explosives. We know Ahsoka didn’t do it as we were with her the whole time, but that’s A LOT of evidence stacked against her if you didn’t know any better.

Anakin worked tirelessly to clear Ahsoka’s name, and succeeded. The council, realizing that they’d had a lapse in judgement, offered Ahsoka an invitation to return to the order. They half-ass apologized as they realized they were wrong, and they offered Ahsoka knighthood for what she’d gone through. She refused.

Ahsoka’s reason for leaving wasn’t that she “hated the council” or that she thought they were innately bad or wrong. She left because she’d lost all sense of trust, including trust in herself (and I won’t make this about the Barriss and Ahsoka dynamic, but that was part of it too). She knew something was off, and couldn’t place it. She had to go sort everything out on her own for a bit. Ultimately, if not for Order 66, she would have gone back to the Jedi after the war was over. Hell, she is still a Jedi now (in her show), just leery as fuck of organizations as a whole because of *gestures vaguely* everything.

So, yeah. In closing, the Jedi had flaws. They owned them. Ahsoka had flaws. The situation with the bombing was impossible. It doesn’t make either party bad, dumb or hate-worthy. It just wasn’t working out at that moment… and due to galactic events, it was never really resolved.

#star wars #ahsoka tano #the clone wars #the wrong jedi #pro jedi #jedi order #sw the clone wars #no one is to blame #it was just a shitty situation

[lauransoverthinking]

Currently overthinking: how obsessed some of fandom is with the idea of punishment for the sake of punishment, instead of learning from mistakes, and how the Jedi are very clearly team learn and grow.

The most “punishment” thing I can think of that we see the Jedi do is assigning Ahsoka to archives duty, but that is clearly meant as ‘get you off the front lines and have you reflect on your actions’ time, not so much a true punishment.

Where we see the Jedi go hard on proclaiming their allegiance to team learn and grow is Dark Disciple (if you haven’t read and don’t want to be spoiled, turn back now because I am about to spoil the shit out of that book).

Vos falls.

Not just dabble a little in the dark side falls.

Falls and pledges himself to Dooku and kills Jedi and clones.

Jedi Knight Kav Bayons

Jedi Knight Akar-Deshu

They died because of Vos.

It can be argued it was unintentional (Vos shoved Deshu into Bayons causing Deshu to sting Bayons. Losing his stinger also would have killed Deshu, but Vos killed him first) but that doesn’t change the fact that Vos is responsible for the deaths of two Jedi, as well as the clones killed in his escape with Dooku (catch me being forever salty over the unnamed clones who die).

He goes by Admiral Enigma and terrorizes the GAR for months.

When the story resolves and Vos returns to the light, do we see him thrown in prison? Executed?

No. We don’t see either of those things.

We see the council intentionally obfuscate and hide these facts from the military (because the military does love punishment and executions).

We see Vos confined to the temple while he heals.

We see Master Yoda spend extra time with him to ensure he rehabilitates successfully.

We see a probationary period to determine if he has really came back to the light.

This is extra important because earlier in the story we saw him return to the Jedi and fool them (some of them, Master Windu was so suspicious of him because Master Windu is a smart smart person)!

And yet, they still believed that he could return to the light and should be given that opportunity.

And he does! He comes back. And he resumes his role in the war. And when everything falls apart he continues trying to help.

And he gets that opportunity because the Jedi do not believe in punishment as justice the way some do.

Repentance and growth. That is the Jedi.

And yet, every day, I see people trying to set the Jedi up as enforcers of prison terms and executioners, because they don’t think people got what they ‘deserved’ in canon.

But that is all a gross misrepresentation of the Jedi.

Ahsoka’s trial and possible execution was not the way the Jedi would have proceeded- it was the GAR and the Republic. Which is probably why the GAR ensured the Jedi couldn’t handle it themselves - there would have been no justice theatre and no blood.

It is not pro-Jedi to insist on punishment and retribution as justice. At its heart, punishment is revenge. And revenge is not the Jedi way.

#dark disciple spoilers #pro jedi #jedi council #the wrong jedi #quinlan vos #master yoda #obi wan kenobi #anakin skywalker #ahsoka tano #I could go on forever about the parallels Vos offers #the way the Jedi handle him shows completely how the Jedi would have handled Ahsoka if they had the choice #the way Obi-wan defends him shows how much he regrets not defending Ahsoka #how him returning to the light must always be on Obi-wan’s mind as he hopes Anakin will do the same #his story is fascinating and adds such nuance and depth to the gffa #more Quinlan content please and thank you

[ahsoka-in-a-hood]

Something something in the wrong jedi arc Ahsoka’s whole training was geared to the front lines and that’s what makes her look guilty. When she’s arrested what keeps making her situation worse is that she escapes and keeps running but that’s literally what Anakin trained her to do. If she’d been caught behind enemy lines she’d have been trying to escape, so that’s what she does, but she’s not behind enemy lines, this is coruscant. When the keycard is slipped into her cell she immediately assumes it’s Anakin’s rescue plan. In crisis she relies on training and experience that’s completely unsuited to navigating a legal system of a republic planet, but everyone expects her to act like a citizen and not an active combatant but that’s all she really knows, so she looks guilty but she doesn’t even really understand why it makes her look guilty. She’s a padawan coming of age in war and it’s left her unprepared to be a jedi within the republic

#ahsoka tano #the wrong jedi #i may be overstating the point but whatever #the clone wars

[keelifallen]

#merry almost christmas #I’m watching die hard for the first time in years #and bruce Willis is in the sluttiest tank top with the biggest eyes and covered in sweat & blood #yippee ki yay indeed #the directors knew what they were doing #star wars #the wrong jedi #ahsoka tano #star wars the clone wars #swtcw #swr #fan art #artists on tumblr #tcw #illustration #the clone wars #keelidraws

[antianakin]

Anakin during The Wrong Jedi arc: Oh damn, guess I spent so much time zapping Ahsoka into unconsciousness for hours for no actual reason that I totally forgot she needed to know other practical skills, too! Whoops! My bad!

#star wars #the wrong jedi #the clone wars #sw tcw #star wars the clone wars #tcw #anakin skywalker #anakin critical #anakin skywalker critical #ahsoka tano #ahsoka critical #ahsoka tano critical #seriously tho like anakin clearly has fairly serviceable 'detective' skills given how quickly he discovers the true culprit #while ahsoka spent all of her time doing everything it took to make herself look as guilty as possible while finding NOTHING #maybe if anakin had actually taught her anything of value instead of manipulating her into mistrusting the jedi #she'd have been better off during that arc

[nateofgreat]

At this point I'm honestly not sure whether Dave Filoni turned Bariss Offee into a terrorist out of laziness/convenience or because he saw her as a potential threat to Ahsoka's popularity.

Like on one hand it could just be that Dave was in a rush to get Ahsoka out of the Jedi so she could survive Order 66, figured he should have her be betrayed in that pursuit, realized the only canonical friend her age she had was Bariss, and so had her turn into a malicious terrorist.

Or he realized that Bariss was the only other popular female Jedi close to Ahsoka's age... And didn't want anyone to utilize her instead of Ahsoka or think that Bariss was better than his OC. So he opted to turn her evil and throw her away.

Logically I know it's got to be the former but... Dave is just so weird to me sometimes. I honestly struggle not to think that he might've done it out of some kind of spite. I mean he only ever used her in a couple episodes all the way back in Season 2 prior to bringing her back to be a terrorist, so he clearly didn't like all that much in the first place.

And he also generally likes to have his OC's beat up or be proven better than other characters to artificially prop them up... So I honestly don't know.

#Star Wars #tcw critical #Dave Filoni critical #Ahsoka Tano critical #anti Ahsoka #anti Ahsoka Tano #Bariss Offee #The Wrong Jedi

[marvelstars]

This moment before Ahsoka´s trial always semed so interesting to me, because of what wasn´t said.

At the moment Ahsoka had her trial Anakin and Padme had stopped seeing each other, this was post Clovis chapter and they were just doing their own thing.

But then this happens and that means they had this conversation at some point before going to see Ahsoka at her cell.

Anakin: Enters Padme´s office.

Padme: Anakin, I already told you, we need time, we are living a lie, we must stop seeing each other and...

Anakin: Ahsoka was accused of treason and she´s going to have court martial.

Padme: I will get my court gown and my blaster, let me off at those bitches

Anakin: Nods, I will get the son of a hutt who´s framing her.

I know It´s been said before but Ahsoka was their kid your honor.

#ahsoka tano #padme amidala #anakin skywalker #She´s Luke and Leia aunt/sister #star wars: clone wars #The wrong Jedi

[darth-memes]

#star wars #sw memes #the clone wars #ahsoka tano #the wrong jedi #obi wan kenobi #anakin skywalker #darth vader #barriss offee #yoda star wars #yoda #mace windu #wilhuff tarkin

[stellanslashgeode]

Thinking about that deleted scene again.

#barriss offee #ahsoka tano #star wars the clone wars #the wrong jedi

[coruscantguard]

personally, i think letta turmond should have been a government informant. would it have completely fixed that storyline? absolutely not, the wrong jedi storyline is an racist disaster from top to bottom. but fucking hell, barriss, as a member of multiple in-universe minority groups, being specifically targeted by a government informant who convinces her to take illegal direct action so that the government can arrest her, (an arrest that would both hurt the credibility of activist groups that oppose palpatine and drum up anti-jedi and anti-alien sentiment,) is a storyline that would have actually made maybe a little bit of sense— at least when opposed to the bullshit they actually went with. after all, government informants attempt manufacture crimes and entrap members of activist groups all the time irl.

#racism #islamphobia #barriss offee #letta turmond #the wrong jedi #xenophobia #nat rambles #does this make sense? i hope this makes sense