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ekbelsher · 21 days
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Rath Roiben Rye, everybody's first book boyfriend! The struggle with fae characters is making them look beautiful, but in a nonhuman way. I had real trouble with this sketch
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Discussing the tithe in ACoMaF:
Honestly, this is likely a hill I’m going to die on, but I’m willing. So, let’s talk about the tithe in ACoMaF.
The tithe:
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It is further explained that Tamlin pushed the collection of the tithe back one month to give every one just a bit more time to collect it.
If however a faerie still fails in handing in their tithe, the following happens:
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That’s what Lucien tells Feyre.
Everyone who fails to bring the tithe will get an additional three days to be able to still make it. Granted, depending on what the tithe is, three days might not be enough. But, I’ll get to that in a second.
Note also: Tamlin will be expected to hunt them down. Note that it says expected, and not "he wants to hunt them down bc etc."
And then, when Tamlin does actually confront the water-wraith, we get this information:
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So, you don’t actually have to hand in the tithe in just three days. You can literally just wait 6 months and pay double. Now, double might seem like an unfair increase, but really it isn’t. If you think about it, all that this rule is, is an extension of the time that you get for earning the first tithe. You just get an additional six months.
Also, as it was established, the tithe is literally calculated and based on your income and status (whatever that means. I suppose it means that even the rich that don’t have an income, but just a stale heritage, get taxed accordingly). So it means that acquiring the tithe isn’t an impossible feat. It’s really just taxes, but more fair, because this time the rich get taxed accordingly, too.
Also:
You might wonder: how much is the tithe for the water-wraiths that they failed to hand it in in the time given to them?
Through Feyre, we find out that the tithe for the water-wraiths is, drumroll please 🥁…. A bucket of fish. Yeah, a single basket of fish for the entirety of the water wraith population of the pond …
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All they had to do was hand it a single basket of fish. And they didn’t.
(Also, I find it so stupid that Feyre literally just says they don’t even need a basket of fish, bc how would she know? She never asked Tamlin what happens to the things people bring for the tithes. She just assumed that they don’t need them bc she is dead set on making Tamlin out to be this splurging man, living lavishly in unnecessary luxury)
Anyway, now, during the conversation the water wraith has with Tamlin, Feyre gets the impression that the water wraith is starving. Why? Bc the water wraith claims the pond they live in is empty of fish.
Now, why is that? Because the water wraiths ate all the fish.
Feyre immediately makes the connection between her and her sisters, as they too know what it means to have no food, to feel the hunger.
Only later we find out that the water wraiths aren’t actually starving. They’re just cursed with "insatiable hunger", whatever that means.
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Now, I just saw that it says appetite instead of hunger, which makes it even worse. Omg.
So they’re not even starving, they’re just constantly craving food.
But then, in the next line, it says that they do actually die of starvation. But that begs the question: HOW?
When is it that their hunger/ appetite isn’t satiated enough (which, by definition it can never actually be???? Because it’s insatiable ) that they starve?
It’s all just super unclear. And vague. It makes zero sense 🤦‍♀️😒
Okay, during that conversation Feyre also tells Tamlin that instead of making them pay their tithe, they should help them replenish the pond. Tamlin declines and Feyre in turn thinks that he is being unnecessarily cruel etc.
But, here in the conversation with Alis, it is revealed that actually no one, not a single faerie in the spring court, would have given the water wraiths money or whatever, because it virtually makes no sense. They just spend whatever they will get trying to satiate a hunger that cannot be mended.
And they know this. Everyone else knows it. But Feyre refuses to believe it.
The jewelry that Feyre gave them will last merely a week. A week. That’s nothing. But somehow, we’re all supposed to be on Feyres samaritan side here and think that it would be the right thing to give them money/ resources etc.
Until when? Exactly? Because as it is, there would never be an end to it.
Now I’m not saying that making them give something is more sensical. It’s obvious that they struggle to curb their hunger and making them forfeit on food has proven to be an exhausting task for them to accomplish.
Only that … only that according to Tamlin, the tithe has been around for ages. His father did it like this, the father of his father did it like this and so on and so forth. Btw, that means it’s been a lot of time since faeries essentially don’t die unless they're killed. And all of this in turn means that the water wraiths have had to have paid their tithes in the past. Otherwise they wouldn’t be around anymore. So it gets you wondering: how come is it that they were able to pay in the past and only now they can’t?
Now, it could definitely be that when Tamlin killed Amarantha and took over the spring court again, they struggled to adjust to it in the little time that passed. However, that’s just a guess. And it’s not backed up by anything, because Acotar has little to no world building and all that we know about the history we find out in the details that are conveniently added just how it fits the narrative whenever a new book comes out 😀
Therefore, the explanation I would offer is:
The tithe is just another example of Sjm's inconsistent, bad worldbuilding and it goes to show furthermore, that she was just trying to find a way to make Tamlins character look bad. Unsuccessfully, if I may say so.
Anyway, I can’t believe I’ve spent so much time discussing the fking tithe, but this has been simmering in my brain for like two years now so I just needed to make this post!
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may12324 · 8 months
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Kaye and Roiben- I miss them <3
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livish.art.
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chaiichait · 2 months
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Why I love tfota
JURDAN! (For obvious reasons)
The clothes (delictable descriptions of otherwordly dresses and doublets)
Jude's hair! (I believe this gets it's own category because of how creative I can be with Jude's horns)
The politics! (Conflict of interest? SUCCESSION CRISIS? OVERWORKED SECRET HAND TO THE THRONE??! Sign me up!)
Jude's girlbossing (Or just general bossing)
Cardan's shenanigans (What more can I say?)
The worldbuilding (The beautiful yet uncanny alien world of Faerie was what drew me in the first place. I love the worldbuilding of the tantalizing High Court that really, as a reader, put me on edge along with the main character. It was almost like I couldn't always be comfortable while reading because I was always trying to anticipate the next pitfall. Plus I felt really smart when I figured out some of the mystery Holly Black cleverly laid out in clues :) .)
The court of shadows friendship (they will support each other no matter what!)
How Holly Black brought in other characters from other books (I know she's been doing this for a while but MAN it makes me want to read Tithe)
The drama (woahh reading HTKOELTHS was crazy. The gossip so intense.)
The writing itself (Honestly learned so many words and ways to structure sentences from these books. Helped out with my own writing a little.)
Jude conquering over everything in the end despite the faerie's judgements about her being human was so satisfying.
All the friends I made! (This series is already good but yall made it better.)
I could honestly go on and on but this list is way too long (And I haven't even talked about the majority of the side characters yet!). Thank you for reading.
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'Today he sees a blond pixie laughing as she splashes someone else- a man in black with salt white hair.'
- Kaye and Roiben Lake of Masks cameo in The Prisoner's Throne
always nice to see them :)
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deathsweetblossoms · 7 months
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You’ve heard me scream my theory about how “the folk of the water” is Holly’s next series. You’ve seen my lengthy dissertation breaking down the Stolen Heir and pointing out the numerous foreshadowing toward problems in the undersea.
THIS just fuels my fire!!! I am convinced we are getting an Elfhame merfolk duology next.
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ellennieel · 9 months
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also also
i feel mocked
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ladywatereton · 5 months
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“Most of all, I hate you because I think of you. Often. It's disgusting, and I can't stop.”
🗡️ Happy Bornday, Jude Duarte. If she made a mistake, she tried to get it right. All my cloths are for her, Jude Duarte, the High Queen of Elfhame!
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🎶 One Of The Girls. Jennie, Lily-Rose Depp and The Weeknd (Jisoo's Pudding Edit Audio).
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valiant-trashmouth · 1 month
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Oak and hyacinth thinking riding a fucking kelpie through the ocean and expecting it to not drown them was a good idea and then immediately almost dying has me so dead
Hyacinth fucking half drowning “oAk tHiS WaS a BaD iDeA”
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clockworkbee · 1 month
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OHMYGOD! Just when I stopped hoping for a cameo of Kaye and Roiben, Holly Black DELIVERED! They so deserve this. I'm so glad we got it! ✨️
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ekbelsher · 2 years
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Ever fantasized about brushing Roiben’s hair?
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godzilla-reads · 4 months
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I already have a copy of “Tithe” but this cover was so cool I had to get it. Then I found “Faerie Wars” and “Daughter of Smoke & Bone” in the discount section.
I feel a bit lucky there.
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millyillus.
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im-fostering-it292 · 2 months
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I HAVE A NEW FAVORITE SERIES. I HAVE DECIDED ONE OF MY FAVORITE AUTHORS IS HOLLY BLACK.
THE MODERN FAERY TALES SERIES WAS AMAZING.
I LOVE KAYE AND CORNY AND ROIBEN AND LUIS AND VAL
IT WAS SO PERFECT
IGGUFJFJGKBJFURJFJVKVKBKFJDUEYWUFJVJ
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cromulentreader · 1 month
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Kaye and Jude both understood that seeking revenge on a guy by kissing them was acceptable and very normal behaviour.
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