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asimplelobsterhat · 1 year

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Dum-E in literally every fic ever:

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ircn-dad · 2 years

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Sometimes I think about Tony's life before Iron Man and I just feel bad for that man.

He spent his entire childhoods in a house where he wasn't loved for who he was. His dad didn't payed attention to him and mentally abused him (idk if in the MCU he was physically abused too, but I wouldn't be surprised if he was), his Mother- even if she wasn't bad and was lovely- always tried to justify Howard's action towards him (during the BARF scene we can see an example of her actions). Living in a house like this, where you feel no one is at your side is exhausting. Where everyone expect from you the best, and even if you try it, you won't ever be enough for your parents.

He entered at MIT at only fourteen, so that means (I guess) he never went to school with his peers. At seven years old he enters at the Philips Academy and it's a secondary school. Despite his outgoing behaviour, I don't think a little kid is comfortable around people much older. I don't think he even had real friends before going to MIT because even if he was more mature than his age, I don't believe a lot of teenagers or pre teens were ready to befriend with a kid.

So, no friends at school and not a good relationship with his family. He must have felt lonely for 14 years, and when he goes to MIT he decides to change. He puts a mask on and begins his new behaviour. He starts going to parties, to drink and to act cool around people to be liked and appreciated. I remember reading some fake testimonials that Marvel made to honorate the release of Iron Man 3, testimonials about how some ex students remembered Tony at MIT and two of them said:

“No one really knew him, he was just a rich kid. Everyone wanted him around, though, because he'd always bring something fun for the party.”

“I remember him at after-parties on Thayer Street. He was up later than anyone else. But you could always get a ride home with him, because he always had a car.”

No one knows the real him because that's what he does: he hides him self behind parties, fun and this kind of stuff to just be noticed by someone. Some people might say that he just wants to be at the centre of the attention, and yes that's true and it is a bad thing, but ever wondered why? Imagine being a kid, who has no friends, who's father hates you and you feel like no one will ever love you, until you find a way to be finally appreciated. You found a way to have someone who notices you after years of loneliness. I can't speak for everyone, but I would have done the same thing.

He keeps doing this for years and years. He lost his parents, he lost Jarvis and he has to take responsibility for his father's company at 21. He doesn't want that, he just wants to have fun and to distract him self from the reality because half of his life, at the time, was just empty, with no one taking care of him. So he practically leaves the company to Obadiah and he just spends more than 10 years trying to fill that void.

Why do you think he was a playboy?

Now... I don't know if that could be possible in the MCU, but in the comics he was assaulted at fourteen by a woman who was way older thank him That was the first time ever he was touched by someone like that, and even if he was a genius I wouldn't be too surprised (again) to find out he was taking refuge from his problems in s*x. He probably thought that was love, that the only reason someone could really love him was to make s*x with them and to make them feel pleasured (we could apply this logic even if he wasn't assaulted). I can think of other fictional characters who are Playboys (Barney Stinson from "how I met your mother" for example) in which is heavily implied that the only reason they act that way is because they need to feel loved.

Ten years of doing this, and you think he would be able to recover? Ofc no.

He has Rhodey, He has Pepper, He has Happy (and he has Obadiah but we don't talk about that man in this house), He has moneys, fame, he can finally have fun, he can drink and have all the women he wants. His life seems perfect, but we all know that's a lie.

He has everything, but he still has nothing, as Yinsen said.

And Tony, after being kidnapped for three months knows that. He knows his whole life was empty at that point. He said it him self when Yinsen asked him if he had a family out the cave. He just said no, he thinks no one is waiting for him to come back. For 38 years of his life he had nothing to live for, and even though we know how much his friends cared about him, he's not aware of that because he thinks they care for the mask he created for him self when he was young. At the age of 38, he still thinks no one could ever love the real him, because he doesn't love him self.

That's why I hate when people says he's immature, narcissistic and egocentric. Is he aware he is a genius? Yes. It's not bad to know that, especially when everyone expected him to be one since he was born. But that doesn't mean he's narcissistic. He acts like he's better than everyone else, but in reality he feels like the worst person ever. How can a narcissistic person think how their girlfriend deserves so much better than him? (As he said in Iron man 3). How can someone be egocentric and then puts other's life before him every single time, or when he's one of the few who cared for everyone, and who was ready to sacrifice himself for a world who never loved him? How can people even assume he thinks he's better than everyone when he admits himself he's just a man in a tin can?

If you can't see that during all the movies that he covers him self with an armour- not iron man, an INVISIBLE ARMOUR made of humour, sarcasm and fake self-esteem- to protect him self from further pain, then I suggest you to rewatch the movies.

Tony Stark is one of the most human and well written characters in the MCU, it's sad that not a lot of fans (and almost everyone in the marvel universe as well) can't see that.

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bayzadas · 2 years

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So I met this person who said "if only his (Tony's) dad was ever actually developed to be actually abusive" and that's bullshit. Howard clearly abused Tony in a lot of ways- emotionally, mentally, physically.

He made Tony drink alcohol when Tony was a literal child, told him he had to be a man. That's how Tony's drinking problem started. Howard forcing a child, his own child, to drink. He told him that drinking will put hair on his chest, and that he had to stop being a sissy. He hit Tony when he saw him playing with toys. He physically abused him for acting his age. Because of Howard, Tony stopped playing with toys. There were only weapons. Tony literally promised him "No toys, just weapons."

In the comics, Howard literally tried to sell Tony to Dracula in exchange of immortality. He died, became a demon and tried to kill his own son in hell. And people are still saying that he tried his best to be a dad and that he failed? My friend, he didn't even try a little. Imagine being that ignorant.

And no, MCU Howard isn't better. Howard literally scarred Tony for his whole life. He didn't let him be a child. He wanted him to be another version of himself. Iron Man 2 tried to show Howard as a good man by making him say "You were my greatest creation" and that was full of shit. First of all, he didn't even try to show Tony that he appreciated him even just a little bit. That man didn't even bothered to tell Tony he loved him even once. And then he recorded himself saying that? You gotta try a little harder if you want your son to think better of you, Howard. Also, saying that your own son is your greatest creation is weird. Tony is his own person. He isn't a machine that Howard made, that man doesn't own him.

Avengers Endgame also tried to make Howard look better and that made me sick. That was awful. Endgame was so bad for that. Tony hugged his abuser, forgave him, and literally thanked him for everything.

Russo brothers, what the hell? What did Tony thank Howard for, exactly? Ignoring him? Starting his drinking problem? Hitting him? Abusing him verbally? Physically? Not letting him be a child for once? Are those the things Tony thanked Howard for?

And don't even get me started on "The kid's not even here yet, and there's nothing I wouldn't do for him." Everything about this sentence is awful. Horrible. Disgusting. Makes me sick. You know why? Because that is a way of saying Tony is the one to blame.

Knowing how Howard treated Tony, this literally means Tony is the one who failed to meet Howard's expectations. Tony's the one who's at fault for the way how Howard abused him. Because he wasn't good enough. Because he wasn't what Howard wanted him to be. If Tony was what Howard expected, Howard wouldn't be so bad with him. But Tony disappointed him, so Howard gave up on him. That's literally what that sentence means. Tony's playing the victim. He's being ungrateful to his dad. Howard's not wrong for the way how he raised Tony, Tony should've known better.

Did you know that Tony, as a fourteen years old child, was so traumatized to the point he built something he called "Stark City"? He built that as an apology to his father. And you know what he was trying to apologize for? Living. He tried to apologize Howard for living and Howard didn't even see it.

Imagine the feeling. Imagine the way how he felt his whole childhood. Abused. Ignored. Depressed. Maybe even suicidal, since he literally regretted being born as a fourteen years old. But yeah, only if Howard was actually developed to be an abusive father.

Fuck you, Russo brothers. Fuck you, Howard apologists.

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protect-anthony-edward-stark · 4 months

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nutella-28m · 2 years

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Apparently there is some talk going around that RDJ might make a comeback as Tony Stark to the MCU. To be frank here, I really hope he doesn't.

My blog has always and will forever be a Tony blog even if I have other fandom content. I love Tony so much that I don't think I'll ever get over his death in Endgame nor will I ever forgive how much the MCU used him as a scapegoat because he deserved so much better than that.

And realistically speaking here, it's the MCU. They are not going to bring back Tony for anything good, they'll most likely use him as more cannon fodder for whatever fucked up plot they have that conveniently needs someone to blame.

'Far From Home' did exactly that, having an array of supposed "victims" that Tony somehow wronged work together and be villains. 'What If...?' killed Tony off in the two or three episodes he appeared in. Things he worked for have either been scrapped or made void (SPOILER: The Sokovian Accords have been repealed).

Side note: In regards to the last bit, whatever reason was given means shit to me because I find it hard to believe that it was done for any other purpose than to simply avoid having to work through it and just toss it aside like every other plot/plothole. A new low for lazy writing, in my opinion but whatever keeps their hands clean of accountability I guess.

I find it very hard to believe that Tony will be used in a way where he'll get an ending he deserves or a plot line where he can actually catch a break for five minutes. I really hope I'm wrong and that he's given some justice in terms of all the shit he has been through but I doubt it. No character is truly safe.

Getting to see RDJ as Tony again will undeniably fill my heart with happiness and I can't say the the prospect of it all doesnt have me bouncing with joy. But at the expense of using him to justify whatever fucked up shit they have in store or to just kill him off again, I'd rather they not.

Tony deserves better than that.

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taylorkellyreporting · 1 year

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we don’t talk enough about steve and his betrayal being the reason tony relapsed

#just one more thing to hate him for #i can’t believe that after everything he did he was just allowed to go back to the past and have a happy ending #while all tony got was. death.#anti steve rogers #anti captain america #anti mcu #anti avengers endgame #tony stark deserves better #pro tony stark

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sherylhooper · 2 years

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I've been rewatching old MCU movies (where Tony is alive, sue me) and I still find it so hard to watch J.A.R.V.I.S die. He loved Tony so much, cared for him so much and that, even nowdays, when people throw that Edwin Jarvis' quote "I'd hate to live on as a voice" or something like this, to justify that Tony was wrong to create J.A.R.V.I.S and give him Edwin's voice is like a fucking insult to both Tony Stark and Edwin Jarvis.

Because Edwin was the one who rised Tony. To that boy Jarvis was the father, not Howard Stark and for the script writers who say that Jarvis would have hated if he knew about J.A.R.V.I.S having his voice, when he knew that Tony, the boy he raised, found comfort in his voice... is like the most disgusting thing in the entire universe (universes).

And to mention, the biggest fuck up (or, knowing them, it was probably intentional with how they hate Tony) was when they had Vision fall in love with a woman who gave herself to neo-Nazi organisation because she hated Tony that much. Who was responsible of Ultron being created, who was responsible of J.A.R.V.I.S' death and who triggered Tony's PTSD again (because she is their baby white girl (you know, when she is canonicaly Rromani, but *whitewashing* (I'm white myself*)) who makes them more money)...

That something that came from J.A.R.V.I.S, Tony's most advanced A.I. that Tony created, who loved his creator so much and whose prime purpose was to protect Anthony Edward Stark, would ever fall in love with that woman is butchering both Edvin Jarvis' and J.A.R.V.I.S' characters...

And to not even show how devastated Tony probably was in AoU and just make Wanda their princess who can do no wrong... To have Vision even entertain the idea of liking J.A.R.V.I.S murderer is horrifying and I'm very glad to see that her suffering and hope that she will bring death upon herself (we all know she didn't die in MoM, MCU writers will never kill off their milking cow when they can make more money).

Also, I've not watched MoM but I've read what happens and to all these people who even like Wanda after all that shit she pulled (starting with in WANDAVISION) and go like "slay, qeeun"; "girlboss" and everything like that... get out of my page and never interact with me, ya'll disgust me and scare me too.

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tony-is-visions-father · 2 years

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I really don't understand people who claim that the vision wanda showed tony didn't affect him in any way...AFTER WE SAW HOW THE SAME MIND TRICK AFFECTED BRUCE AND HOW HARD IT FUCKED HIS MIND

like they seriously saw bruce "I'm-always-angry-but-I-can-totally-control-it-and-keep-the-big-guy-inside" banner goes on a rampage because of the same spell she used on tony (and also, even when hulk comes out, he is not just a stupid monster, he UNDERSTANDS where his enemies are and where are his allies and where are the people he should not hurt. he would never attack a city full of innocent people. and yet we see him losing his mind and doesn't recognize either civilians or an ally in tony)

but they decided "uh no she just showed him his fear this is the same if he had a nightmare (imagine how fun it would be in new york if hulk raged like this after every nightmare that bruce had) this is all completely on stark🙄" like ????

we don't blame bruce (rightfully) for what happened in johannesburg, but when it comes to tony he's the only one to blame for "creating the killer-bot". I mean since wanda is responsible for what happened in Johannesburg I think it's fair to hold her at least half responsible for Ultron.

sorry for rant, but this thought has been with me for a long time and I really wanted to express it to someone. and thanks for all these posts, they are one of the few things that help me stay sane in this brain dead fandom istg

You basically said my whole thought process with the whole thing! He’s definitely not the only one at fault for what happened and I stand by it! He took responsibility for it but so should Wanda she played a bigger hand in it to make it evil with the mind stone of course! I totally agree with everything you said I don’t think I need to add anything else.

#anti wanda maximoff #anti wanda stans #pro tony stark #tony stark deserves better

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denebolablack · 7 months

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They would kill for him, your honor.

Would destroy the world for him.

The world doesn't appreciate the fact that Tony wanted to save/protect them, instead of destroy them.

They should, tho.

They really should.

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sasha-zoe7 · 2 months

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Okay, but suddenly I can't stop thinking about Tony Stark, Regulus Black, and Sansa Stark somehow meeting each other and being the friends that they deserve for each other.

#sansa stark #tony stark #regulus black #queen in the north #ironman #regulus deserved better #tony stark deserves better #sansa stark deserves better

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hum-suffer · 8 months

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In my living room,

Listening to Frank Sinatra,

And I'm looking at you.

The betrayal of your absence blooms like bruise on my chest

(Even today)

(it's been years)

You're not going to believe me again

Because I won't ever trust you again.

I can't help myself.

You sit there, desolate and everything that my past once was

Loved, attended to, alone, and faulty.

But I can't breathe better with the weight of your violence in my chest,

I can't help myself.

#desiblr #marvel mcu #stony #am i salty on steve for almost killing tony? yes #captain america civil war #civil war team iron man #tony stark deserves better #suffer ye suhana nahi #poetry

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ircn-dad · 2 years

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i-

i don't-

what in the house of sanity is happening.

1) Tony is not responsible for Wanda. She's an adult and she is responsible for HER SELF. Stop treating her like she's a baby who needs someone to cuddle her. But if we want to take a look on how he treated her sure... let's do it.

She didn't faced any consequences after Ultron. Who do you think made sure she wasn't arrested and imprisoned for the rest of her life? Pietro's Ghost? Tony took care of every avenger's reputation and payed for everyone. He let her stay in the compound AND when she was accused and people wanted to incriminate her he wanted her to stay safe in her house. Not a room with only a bed, a whole building with the man he loved. Just to protect her from hate.

But yeah, he's an horrible person.

2) HE WAS ABUSIVE TOWARDS PETER?

idk if I should laugh or not at this... he literally made Peter's life safer because if he never met him Peter would still wearing that unsafe pajama fighting the crime. Or maybe not, he would directly be dead.

If we want to blame tony for bringing a child during a fight, then we are all dumb. THAT-WAS-NEVER-MEANT-TO-BE-A-FIGHT.

Peter just had to web Team Cap to make sure they didn't escape (AND THEN BECOMING CRIMINALS Y'ALL, TONY WAS SAVING THEM), it's not tony's fault if Steve didn't changed his mind. Was it kinda irresponsible? yes. He is a bad model because he brought a kid to Germania? no. Peter was already a superhero, Tony didn't make him one. And Peter was excited to be there, so I don't really know what's y'all problem.

In homecoming was he distant? yes, but because he needed time to heal. at the same time, he was always looking after Peter and always helped him when he needed it the most. He just wanted Peter to be safe and to be just a friendly spiderman. Y'all wanted Peter to be like Raimi!Peter but when Tony also wanted that, you get angry. Ok.

I won't speak about infinity war and endgame because all he did during that movies was to care about Peter, protect him and save him from death. But yes, sure, he's abusive.

3) Harley.

Have we watched the movies or...

Let me start with saying Harley didn't need Tony like Peter needed him. Harley had a mother and a sister, what should have Tony done? Staying with him and leaving everything behind? let me remind you that he HAD to leave him, or, y'know, not a big deal, Aldrich would have won. Also, we're all forgetting how Tony payed for Harley's house and his little sister's watch. Yeah he didn't care about him either.

Second thing. Did you watch endgame funeral? Harley was invited. Pepper would never invite a kid tony met ten years earlier. they must stayed in contact during the time. But no, let's say he's a bad model because he didn't adopted a kid who he just met and who already had a mother and a sister.

Was the comment about being a pus*y kinda cruel? Yes. But it's a joke. J-O-K-E. And it doesn't look like Harley was crying because of this. Just because he made some jokes, he gets hate. Okay.

4) This one is the worst.

Y'know, I can almost see why you can say the first three things. Almost. Because you only saw what's bad about their relationships, okay.

But on this one I don't really understand.

Every interaction they had was showing how much tony cared for the kid. You're saying pepper had to take care of her, but we didn't even see a scene of them before the funeral. Tony was a Caring and lovely father, not like his own father. Morgan loved her dad, she didn't act like a kid around an absent father and I myself have an absent father since I was born and I never acted like that with him. He treated her like a princess, and he was ready to not help everyone because he didn't want to risk his daughter's life.

Are we watching the same movies or

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bayzadas · 2 years

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i wont ever forgive endgame for not only making tony “forgive” his abuser but also making him hug the asshole

#tony stark #anti endgame #anti mcu #anti howard stark #tony stark defense squad #pro tony stark #tony stark deserves better #in the comics howard literally attacked and tried to kill tony in HELL #and in the mcu they’re making him hug the bastard

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protect-anthony-edward-stark · 2 years

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Happy Father's Day to the best dad ever Tony Stark 💖

So nice and caring with every kids he meets

Tony has never received any love or support from his dad, and he doesn't want Peter and Harley to live the suffering he went through

He congratulates them, supports them, helps them, gives them gifts.. He's like a mentor and father to them

He does everything to make them feel good about themself and loved

He watch other them, and does everything to protect them

He gives Morgan all the love in the world and all he never had

Howard raised Tony with violence, he always criticized him, belittle him. Tony raises Morgan with only love and appreciation

He never scolded her or showed any anger or bad emotion. All he give her love, support, kindness, love.

How he talks to her, jokes with her. How he looks at her. How he takes her in his arms. He's always there for her no matter what, attentive, supportive, present, loving..

He would do anything for her. Her happiness is all that matters.

He deserves to see his daughter grow up

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p-taryn-dactyl · 1 year

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it’s missing tony stark hours

#tony stark #tony antis please dni #pro tony stark #tony stark defense squad #tony stark deserves better #idc if you are anti!tony and this post irritates you to the point you need to argue with me - if there’s any anti tony interaction #on this post #i will steal your kneecaps and wear them as a necklace as a power move #I’m emotionally stable #If you’re reading the tags:#Pls talk to me in my inbox about tony #I miss him #i love him your honor

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taylorkellyreporting · 2 years

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i’m telling y’all, if you come across a tiktok and it starts with “tony stark” fucking RUN you’re about to see the worst take you’ve ever consumed in your LIFE.

#and it’s ALWAYS those nasty ass team cap stans #anti team cap #pro tony stark #tony stark defense squad #tony stark deserves better #team iron man #tony stark has a heart

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