#unhealthy vegan

[stillarandom-radfem]

"It's accidentally vegan!" Oh, you mean it's complete and total junk food, if it can even be called "food" at all? It's made up of nothing but noxious chemicals man-made in a lab, and has exactly zero ingredients that can actually be defined as real food at all? Gee, how "healthy" you are for not eating animal products. I'm sure eating that all that godawful crap, ahem, delicious "accidentally vegan" food, paired with a diet that is nearly entirely devoid of any bioavailable nutrition whatsoever, won't kill you significantly faster than all of us "unhealthy" meat-eaters would. Gosh, you vegans are so brilliant and special. 🙄🙄🙄

#anti vegan #anti veganism #vegans are dumb #vegans are stupid #vegans are wrong #veganism is unhealthy #veganism is an eating disorder #junk food veganism #🙄🙄🙄

[xxlovelynovaxx]

Ah. "Animals rights" bullshit okay. Being animals that are not obligate herbivores and eating the flesh of other animals because of it is "oppressing" non-human animals. And they called out my comparing it to anti-choicers because "murder is different than death" okay well anti-choicers think abortion is murder. I don't happen to consider a human killing an animal for food murder any more than I consider an animal killing another animal for food murder, especially when as you pointed out yourself some people can't survive without meat.

Or is it a contract killing/hit on every animal You've ever eaten to survive? Are you just not a murderer because you paid not to get your hands dirty?

Like yeah it's fucking NATURAL. Humans aren't some wondrous ascended beings that don't crawl through the dirt. We fuck and fight and survive and yes, part of that survival for many is KILLING.

And it's good that you don't think people should be forced onto veganism because that would be as bad as the people who want to force all animals to eat synthetic meat and hunt via robots or whatever but my gods can you imagine telling someone who has been a vegetarian by choice for years for animal WELFARE purposes (not rights) who is vegan for disability reasons that they are "justifying the oppression of animals" and "killing animals for food is murder" when you literally can't go vegan for health reasons yourself? Okay murderer. Guess your life matters more than those oppressed animals.

Like sorry I'm going full "you're an asshole and I despise you and I'm genuinely sorry for myself that I thought we could be friends".

Like yeah the anti-choicer metaphor wasn't perfect. But it also got you to cut right to the heart of the matter. You are so divorced from humans as part of the ecosystem and food chain you genuinely believe we have some moral duty to not kill animals (but only animals, not plants or fungi, which are also living and have some measure of sentience) and to hold ourselves separate from the biosphere to the greatest extent possible.

That's just ecofascism 101. Are we gonna do the "any form of hunting or land management, even responsibly by indigenous stewards using traditional practices is bad" next? Or are we gonna avoid that one because you hopefully know better than THAT and simply think that removing humans from ONLY one part of the consumptive chain is ✨different✨?

For reference:

Also where does "choosing to die" come in to this? I wasn't talking about euthanasia, I was talking about withdrawing the life support provided by a human body if the owner of that body stops consenting to providing it, therefore depriving a fetus dependent on that life support for survival of said survival. I'm pretty sure the fetus doesn't have a choice in the matter. (Whether or not it's "alive" doesn't have much to do with anything since it's been made pretty clear that medical autonomy in terms of mandated use of your body's parts or resources is unethical at ANY point. Even if you ARE killing it, we've determined that's the most ethical option.)

Also if we're going to make bullshit oppression claims why don't we talk about transspecies people who are obligate carnivores?

#literally I'm not a fucking legalist but no I don't believe murder in the sense of nonconsensual killing is always wrong #like self defense. hello. #like maybe my moral system is just built different but to call it oppression and make me out to be some kind of bigot? #come on. that's bullshit and you know it. #we're literally not talking about rights being taken away. also this is why animal welfare is such a better concept than animal rights #stop anthropomorphizing animals!! stop treating them like furry humans that can't speak!! #literally somehow both a veganism centrist and an 'animal rights' person at once #go yell at people for literally having a moral-spiritual belief system that encompasses eating animals as neutral somewhere else #oh and btw don't EVER fucking moralize any kind of food related consumption around me again that goes for everyone #meat is neutral. sugar is neutral. artificial sweeteners are neutral. preservatives are neutral. plants are neutral. fish are neutral. etc #some of these may be unhealthy for a given individual and their production under capitalism may be fucking harmful #but conceptually they are neutral and there are ways of making them physically so by changing the harmful systems #you can keep feeling bad about your oppression of poor animals or w/e. or maybe you don't feel bad idk #I happen to find that far more harmful than humans who want or need to eat meat - doing so - will ever be #thanks for the mask off moment where you decided it was actually okay to moralize food and survival #I'm so happy to say goodbye forever #(note: if you know who this is don't fucking harass them. I have them blocked and am being a bit nasty *bc* they can't see it) #(I don't want them to suffer. I just think they're a monumental asshole. gods know I'm one too.) #(let people be assholes 2k23 lol)

[theonlinevegan]

#processes #food #healthy #vegan #processed #unhealthy #vegan food is unhealthy #fake meat #meat #excuses

[veganymph]

I don’t understand why so many carnists (particularly right wing gym bros) are so insistent on claiming veganism is an unhealthy lifestyle when it’s basically the same as omnivorous eating health wise. Nobody owes you health. Nobody owes you the food that you want them to eat. If you believe a person does then you’re already too far gone.

#my post #oh you think veganism is unhealthy cause oreos happen to be vegan? maybe it’s time to put down that salami #or steak #or pork #or hot dog #…… just saying #vegan #veganism #go vegan

[happybirthday-unusannus]

Sometimes I think about food as a love language. I went out to get seafood as lunch with my great aunt (and other family members) and we got crab. As she’s cracking open the crabs, she mentions how a specific part is her favorite, and then immediately offers it to her husband. My great-grandmother’s memory is starting to go a bit, and a few years ago I started digitalizing some of her recipes so that she’d have a copy all in one place rather than old tins everywhere in her kitchen, and I shared the Google document with the whole family. When she passes, the only thing my mom wants of hers for certain is her cutting board because of the food memories attached to it. We all covet the queso recipe from the Mexican place some of the family used to own. Every time we’re in Boulder we try to go to the restaurant my great-grandmother’s twin’s husband used to own. We bake cookies for each other every time we see each other. I know my favorite cookies are ginger snaps, my mom’s are oatmeal chocolate chip, my grandmother’s are pecan sandies. My great-grandmother makes those cookies when we come over. Idk. I’m just thinking about food as a love language.

#cw food #not happy birthday #there was more to this thought I’m leaving in the tags and not in the main post #cause it’s a little personal and a little more depressing #but there’s something about my father in this too #food is not his love language and it shows #where as my family praises putting on a little weight #not in a ‘be terribly overweight’ but in a ‘their comments about food are always you’re too skinny’ #my dad is very much the opposite #he complains about sugar and junk food and the unhealthiness of it all the time #he also tries to get us to watch those vegan videos about animals right before we eat #anyways tangent

[nerefee]

Family Christmas dinners are… something

#a #don’t even have my brother this year bc he’s sick </3 #actually like my grandpa more now that he has dementia and is a shell of a person bc he was a huge asshole and I have no love for him #doing this solely for my mother who I ALSO have a complicated and unhealthy relationship with #added fun of me being vegan and there not being 1 thing I can eat #(usually I make and bring smth but I was sick and I’m also tired and depressed so I wasn’t up for it) #and there will be a part 2 to this tomorrow with my aunt and my uncles girlfriend (light of my life) #im so not up for social interaction honestly but my mother will have a temper tantrum and I don’t have the energy to deal with that

[oscill4te]

the idea of using chronometer or tracking any food/nutritional stuff is so stressful wtff

#if i am malnourished then so be it... #jk but yeah get a blood test every now and then #ive somehow been doing good w bloodtests despite putting no effort in #which is funny bc my family has tried convincing me for years that im going to be malnourished and starve from not eating meat >.> #I've been vegetarian for a long time and vegan for 3+ yrs and im balling #i just have to remember to take a multi/eat nooch for the b12 every now and then. i prob dont do that as much as i ought too #once i had a doctor suggest i keep a food diary just for being slightly overweight... cringe #idk tracking food that much seems unhealthy for most people #i think the only thing i care to track is sugar bc i notice i feel like shitttt if i have more than the recommended amount #but otherthan that i dont track anything else

[swagging-back-to]

literally no one gives a shit if you failed at being vegan and dont understand nutrition at all. you are not special youre like every other failed vegan in existence, the exact same sob story

#vegan #this is a direct callout #yes i did block them but i know so many people in the tag saw that post and felt the same way #shut the fuck up #none of us are going to suck your cock because you were vegan for twoyears and then ate fish #'i havent eaten meat in 10 years' says the admitted pescatarian of 5 years. #fish flesh is still flesh #is fish a fucking vegetable? the last i checked the answer was no. #it is seriously so annoying #im so over people constantly being like 'oh i tried veganism but it was just sooooo unhealthy but i respect your decision to starve yourself

[mango-nectars]

It’s just diet culture repackaged lovelies

#and I’m not talking about vegans #I’m talking about the people who have a weird superiority complex for not drinking dairy milk while consuming every other type of dairy #making people feel like their food choices are gross/unhealthy is weird …..

[oneeighth]

#food #please if you can please make this #Very unhealthy #Very delicious #Languedoc #cassoulet #I swear the combination of meats and fats and slow cooking goes straight to the neanderthal brain #I leave the chunks of carrot and celery in for an extra treat #One day I will attempt to make this vegan and see if I can get the same flavour and texture #but today is not that day

[littlemermaidx]

Quite impressed with Lindt's vegan range! 🤤 😍 💛

#mine #chocolate #lindt #vegan chocolate #yum #random #vegan #dairy free #dairy is gross and unhealthy for you so..

[feartheoldblog]

checked in for the first time in months and all the vegan groups i was in on facebook have been deleted………. what was going on in there 💀

#those groups are a warzone fr #like someone posts a pic of some vegan cookies they baked #and some organic mf is like ERM THOSE ARE UNHEALTHY #like shut the fuck up bethany no one cares #‘it’s processed!!’ bestie some of us are here for the animals not ourselves #let me have Oreo’s

[moonglittering]

vi: for me its all about pain is weakness leaving the body, drink kombucha twice a weak, don’t let them catch you slippin’ you need to hit the gym, you should go for runs, take a hike, get a treadmill, do some stretches, have a meat free day, take a walk around the block, climb a tree, whenever there’s a commercial on tv do something active even if it’s just exercises for your fingers.

vi: im binge drinking and smoking until i pass out though.

#🌙 OOC! SPEAKING THROUGH THE VALLEYS OF PLUTO. #/ vi: but my calf muscles... they look great....... :| #/ hes like this vegan guy i knew that hated meat cuz it was unhealthy buth he LOVED cocaine.

[carpathxanridge]

just realized i had a fully vegetarian day of eating without trying, which i’ve probably done before but this is the first time i feel like i actually got enough protein too without being like intentional about it. im pretty excited even though it wasn’t all vegan, one meal was and the other wouldve been easily veganize-able if i had vegan cheese. and like as someone who used to be such a picky eater i had a list of foods i’d have to introduce into my diet before being able to even THINK about eating vegan, it’s exciting to see i’ve done enough of that introduction that i can have a day of low-effort eating that’s unintentionally vegan-approaching. like i forget how limited my diet used to be until i actually examine what my current diet looks like and go whoa i wouldn’t have eaten like 2/3rd of this even just a year ago lol. and tbh i dont know if i ever intend on going fully vegan but my goal is to limit myself to maybe cooking with meat and/or dairy only once or twice a week, and the only animal product to keep a staple would be eggs (i want to have my own chickens.)

#unfortunately it’s too easy for me to fall into an orthorexic mindset and trigger unhealthy restriction and binging #and i know vegans say ‘veganism isnt a diet it’s a lifestyle’ but #it’s really not lmao it quite literally is about what you eat and ‘diet’ doesn’t mean ‘fad diet’ or ‘weight loss diet’ #it’s just what you eat and unfortunately changing it drastically can b triggering #which is why for now i’m focused on slow #sustainable dietary changes #and an additive mindset of trying new vegan dishes #or introducing ingredients that ive been picky about that are vegan staples #rather than eliminating meat or dairy #maybe once i have a larger repertoire of vegan meals and find it easy enough to meet my protein needs #then i can start deliberately limiting my animal product intake #but also i think about i forget who on radblr has this stance but basically #the idea that veganism shouldnt be encouraged to women because so many of us already have iron deficiency and are more prone to it from #our periods and as women are also more likely to have histories of disordered eating #and are more prone than men to a feeling of individual moral responsibility and guilt #which i think is an interesting argument i do kind of agree and it’s why i dont feel the immediate pressure to go vegan even as some #of my vegan friends guilt me lol #like im sorry im gonna prioritize my health #but i do agree that ULTIMATELY a diet LOW in animal protein is most supportive of physical health even with the above considerations about #anemia and women’s protein needs on their periods #like yes those are good reasons to be critical of some of the popular high carb unsustainable vegan influencer diets #but a diet of mostly plant based protein sources with minimal animal based protein where iron absorptionis a concern is ultimately going to #be more supportive of ur general health than a diet high as high in red meat as the standard american diet #anyways those r my thoughts lol idk where i was going in these tags

[famousblueraincoatmp3]

yall are going to tell me you really truly cannot cook and that the only way to eat greens healthily is through eating them raw? in my own house

#that post has 58k notes what even is this website #you couldnt waterboard this info out of me? thats not diet culture luv thats you not knowing you can grill zucchini #sam.txt #this is the same website who will claim that veganism is actually unhealthy and eating raw beef from the grocery store #is actually healthier than eating spinach #like you guys are literally so american. its soo entertaining to me #i want to go to yalls houses and cook for you. so badly #send me your adress and i will arrive with my own stuff and i'll make u something girl

[talesfromthebandgeekmafia]

YouTube please I’m just trying to get more into cooking & have more substantive nutrition in my mornings than a granola bar & my ADHD meds stop trying to give me an eating disorder

#I’m looking up recipes for overnight oats to try cause ironically I saw them on videos from a girl recovering from an ed posting her meals #and thought they looked good #but dear god every video is just 😘 hi there today we’re making overnight oats so we can keep our New Years Resolutions #of not being unhealthy unloveable fatties!! 🥰 #fuck off!!!!!!!! #I’ll get chubbier just to spite y’all fuckers #I love how squishy I am actually I’m just trying to eat more vegetables!! #in part because I need better nutrition but also because I fuckin love food & I want to open a door which was previously closed to me! #on a brighter note I found some videos from this lady that makes vegan Indian curries who doesn’t use the weight watchers language #and holy shit they look so good my next treat to myself is gonna be learning that lentil curry recipe #cw ed mention #spilling the Tea