Oh aew's color tone scale
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pp the whole time billkin was talking about the tehxjai scene
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This is it! atotsweek 2021 has sadly come to an end. We want to close off this week by thanking everyone who has made submissions, participated in our activities or engaged with other fans’ works throughout the week and for everyone’s patience while we worked through some organization quacks! (mainly Nads figuring out how quizzes work and Orthy figuring out how to run sideblogs).
We truly have spent 8 wonderful days back in Pha Pun Dao with all of you and are very grateful for the support and love you have shown for the show and the fandom.
When we came up with this idea, we were first unsure of the reception. Maybe it was too short notice, maybe the atots hype train had died down already, maybe these type of things aren’t done for singular BLs on tumblr, maybe no one else but the organizers would make any submissions! Thankfully, we were proven wrong! So, thank you again for sticking with us during this week as this has been a real joy.
And now, to less sappy news we are announcing the winner of atotsweek 2021 quiz competition!!
Congratulations @seetian with an almost perfect score! You take the crown of atots trivia master! As a prize, you can claim any gifset/lyricset/quoteset/graphic/header/icon etc, courtesy of @ataleofthousandstars.
Below are the top 10 scorers for the quiz.
2. @atotsphutian and @eyepietime
3. @everybodyelsesgirl and @nanzhujues
7. @phapundao and @monalisaz
You all are way too obsessed with this show, huh.
Anyone, feel free to dm us for a break down of your personal scores <3 Thank you once again for everyone who played! Until next time <3
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pp’s reaction while they were talking about the teh x jai kiss is a whole mood lmao
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#atotsweek2021 day 8
....+1 (bc I'm late)
I picked the following prompts from the list provided:
82. Want me to run you a warm bath?
90. Let me take care of you.
98. Let me give you a back massage.
This week was so much fun, and I loved reading about everyone's favourite scenes and characters!! Thank you so much @ataleofthousandstars and @systoles-lfc for organising this!!! See you next year 😉💕💕💕
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Short drabble of ipytm ep 3
Fix it au
Only some parts of episode 3 happen
Oh aew climbed up the steps to the practice room that he knew Teh would be at. Teh continuously worked hard for the main character in the drama and it is finally paying off. Oh aew smiled to himself as he was holding the poster for the play rolled up. He went up to the hallway leading to the practice room and opened the door seeing Teh reciting his lines and Oab watching him. Oab noticed Oh aew was there and told Teh to stop for today. Oh aew pulled out the poster and Teh smiled so brightly, a small that Oh aew hasn't seen in a while from him. Oab loved it as well and started to pack up to leave.
Oab left and it was just the two of them, looking at each other. "Do you want me to recite the lines for you". Oh aew nodded as Teh started doing lines. Adding funny voices to parts that weren't his so that they could laugh. "And now the kiss". Teh walked up to Oh aew and grabbed his hand, he moved it up towards his neck while Oh aew had his hand on Teh's waist. "May I kiss you". Oh aew nodded as Teh kissed him. They kissed and hugged each other. Both knowing they needed to see each other. They went out to eat and laughed the whole night.
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i can understand that teh is in a vulnerable state which makes him susceptible to manipulations from jai. i can understand that he could be attracted to an older good-looking guy who seems to have the same drive, ambition and interests as he does. especially with how lonely and uncertain he’s been about himself, about his future and about his relationship. it’s heartbreaking to see him have feelings for someone other than oh-aew but still, i can understand it.
what i can’t understand is the way he went about it in such an extreme way. and to display zero remorse, guilt or hesitation at any point in time? that doesn’t seem like teh at all. the fact he can’t remember their first time is already sad enough, but to recreate it for selfish gain immediately after his big epiphany that he’s attracted to jai? it was sickening to watch play out and it devastates me that it’ll taint oh-aew’s memories of their first time too when he eventually finds out the truth.
and then to have him show up at acting class the very next day actively pursuing his interest in jai, right after having slept with oh-aew (his boyfriend who he is still with, by the way, and who still loves and cares for him and respects him enough to shut down any suitor that comes his way) and wearing the exact same shirt he wore during their first time? that is just… unbelievably cruel.
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This is gonna be Teh again next week when Oh Aew dumps him and he finds out Jai was just manipulating him into giving a good performance
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time jumps are my villain origin story
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— yuan zhen, ‘on parting’ / 离思
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You have made our tale the happiest one.
↳ Atotsweek 2021: A tale of a thousand creations
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You’re stronger than you think. You’ve gotten through all of the worst days of your life. You can handle this. You can get through this.
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itsay 4 + atots 8 + ipytm 3 reduced my lifespan by at least 10 years i regret ever starting to watch lakorns 😷
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Ayi, he’s the oldest student. He may be small, but he’s pretty gutsy among the students. Khaonueng, he always creates excitement in the group. Kalae is known for being the biggest eater. Inta, my girl who likes to look pretty and loves dressing up. Meejo is the youngest and the most inquisitive student.
↳ Atotsweek 2021 Day 7: The children of Pha Pun Dao (for @billkinsdancing and @atotsphutian)
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In the past, I had never called any place my home. Because all the forests were like home to me. Until I came to this village. This is where I can truly call home.
↳ Atotsweek 2021 Day 7: Pha Pun Dao
(for @systoles-lfc )
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ep3 has drawn a drift amongst viewers with one side saying this was so in character for teh versus this is not the same teh. we are all trying to understand his character, his thoughts and his actions. a lot of whys are being asked in terms of teh kissing jai.
i think they've purposely placed teh and jai's kiss in a grey area. their kiss didn't affect me nearly as much as teh emotionally betraying ohaew did. that's what hurt me the most. the fact that teh felt the need to lie about having dinner with jai, for me, that was him mentally and emotionally already betraying ohaew. its not so much about the kiss they shared. its about how it was shown that teh genuinely felt something for jai. that hurt, even more, when juxtaposed with ohaew trying to hold down their fort their entire relationship single-handedly, quietly, in his own ways.
acts of betrayal happen for a lot of reasons. at the crux of these acts lies a strong expression for yearning and longing for an emotional connection and a wish to recapture lost parts of ourselves. they've shown this excellently through how jai used the emotional gaps teh was feeling with ohaew. jai taking teh to a play? their knees miraculously touching at that very moment? jai sharing his secrets with teh. them breaking into forbidden places. these are all memories teh shared with ohaew once. memories that had slowly started fading. parallels were drawn from itsay against new memories teh makes with jai. jai knows teh's doubts and fears and probably these special moments with oh because of the goddamn logbook. inner thoughts and insecurities which teh poured into that goddamned logbook, should all have been communicated with ohaew instead. who knows what else teh wrote there. who knows. ugh
this also highlights the lack of communication between teh and oh. healthy communication is a big part of any type of relationship and its been lacking in teh and oh's relationship since pretty much ep1. they're talking, they're trying to communicate but are they really? have things really been discussed and resolved? or have they merely scratched the surface and shoved it under the rug - consciously or unconsciously. as viewers, we were pretty much frustrated at the lack of tehoh. we were all raving wheres the tehoh fluff we signed up for? where are the tehoh moments? the intimacy. they were not shown because they were not there in the first place. it was intentional. of course, the time jumps come into play here but in general, i think they chose to not give us tehoh as much, creating a disconnect so that we feel what the characters are feeling too. there is a disconnect. there is no proper communication and apparently no intimacy too.
also, i'm not surprised teh found comfort in writing all of his troubles in a diary as opposed to communicating them. he always liked doing this. remember how he used to write rival or nanjuzhe or intimacy over and over again in Chinese. that's just who he is, how his mind works, how he tries to understand himself. now the logbook was the perfect therapeutic and communicative device if only it fell on the right hands.
also, something else that struck me - ohaew was gonna open the goddamn door and go inside when he first saw teh and jai kiss. but later he decided not to? what changed? was it the look in teh's face that said it all to oh that despite jai saying that this was all for the play, the look in teh's face betrayed his true intentions. did oh decipher all that in mere minutes and decided to walk away?
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ipytm episode 3 thoughts (very very long), take it or leave it. i have a lot of asks in my inbox and honestly i'm overwhelmed (there are a lot of feelings about this episode that i'm not prepared to hold because i am processing my own) so i don't think i'll get to them, but here are my reactions after thinking about it for a bit.
i kind of wonder what my reaction to episode 3 would have been had i stayed off of social media all day yesterday. my mindset going into ipytm was, "i don't want a cheating plot, but if there is one, i trust nadao to handle it well" because they're responsible for some of the best writing i've ever seen in thai television. i still believe that. i wish they hadn't chosen the cheating plot because there are other relationship conflicts to explore that don't involve cheating, but for me it's not a dealbreaker.
i disagree with critiques saying they did it for ratings or sensationalism. if anything, they lost viewers from this. people are not okay with cheating plots, and the team most likely knew this when they wrote it. yet they took that gamble anyway, which makes me want to believe they have something they want to say, and i'm waiting until the series ends to give my final judgment on whether they succeeded in that message.
i watched the episode live and saw thai fans' live reactions on twitter, then i spent the morning checking everyone's reactions here on tumblr. as of right now, thai twitter has not stopped insulting the director, the writers, and the company. the backlash is harsher than anything i've seen from international fans (i'm leaving it at that so please don't ask me). pretty much everyone hated what happened this episode, which i understand. but i don't think it means that it was lazy writing or that teh was out of character. i definitely think there's a problem, though, if the majority of viewers are feeling alienated from the show, because it means something went wrong along the way with the storytelling.
it is totally possible and in character for teh to cheat on oh-aew, because you can love someone with your whole heart and still hurt them and betray them (to be clear, it's still not okay). and it is totally possible for teh to have done something as shitty as this and still grow up to be a decent person in the end. this is where the time jumps become an issue for me. we left episode two with teh crying because he was afraid of losing oh-aew, and then we land in his third year where he's seemingly indifferent to oh-aew. but we weren't part of that journey, and the storytelling didn't lead us there emotionally. all we see is oh-aew being a super dedicated partner who is trying to salvage their relationship, while teh is completely distant and seems to have given up altogether.
i get it, he's insecure about his career and the possibility that he might end up like khim, and jai is the last thing he has to latch on to his now-more-elusive dream of becoming an actor. he's barely thinking about oh-aew and he's incapable of being a good partner right now, especially since oh-aew's success and happiness in advertising probably makes teh doubt himself even more. he's so in his head he's not even himself anymore. he has completely lost who he is, which is why he seems so foreign to us here. the objective facts are all there, but the emotional connection to make me empathize with him isn't, which is why all the shitty things he did this episode--juxtaposed against all the wonderful things oh-aew did--make him come across as such an exceptionally terrible person. and the thing is i know he still loves oh-aew. in the sex scene, he still clearly loves oh-aew. sure it was initiated by a desire to improve his acting for jai, but during the sex and the morning after, the love and affection for oh-aew are still there. teh just doesn't recognize it because all he sees is oh-aew having left him for better (a new career track he's happy with and doing well in, a group of friends who understand and support him) while teh remains stuck in the same loop holding on to jai as his last hope, which is why he's giving jai his everything. none of that makes any of it okay, but it makes it make sense.
i wish they had spent more time developing this internal conflict so that we could see it better, because it was only after rewatching it a couple of times, sitting on it, and reading people's reactions that i could begin to understand where teh is at in this episode. and i know we like that itsay gave us a lot to analyze, but i think ipytm has tried to jam too much into too few episodes that it ends up leaving the audience with blanks to fill in, which is a bit more work than i want to do when i'm enjoying a series. i think teh and jai got too much screen time, and teh and oh-aew not enough. i think there's a lot of insider stuff about drama/comm arts that's taking up space, which might resonate with folks who come from that field but not the majority of the audience who don't speak that language. i think if they had given more time to exploring teh and oh-aew's relationship, we wouldn't be seeing as much of this backlash.
a cheating plot doesn't make it cheap drama. i would happily watch a series that tackles infidelity in relationships because it is a super real topic with lots to explore: how does a couple navigate the aftermath of infidelity? can they rebuild trust, and how? what are the consequences to the relationship? all of these are important things to address, but the topic deserves a lot more space than a five-episode series can deliver, especially when it's combined with teh and oh-aew's other conflicts related to career, ambition, and other coming of age struggles. so for me it's not the cheating plot that's the problem but more so the fact that i don't think there's enough time for them to do it justice.
all that said, i think there's a tension here between a creator's creative vision and audience expectations, and i think this is an example of the showmakers maybe going too far in their vision to the point of alienating the audience. itsay is a comfort show and teh is a comfort character for a lot of us, and it's justifiable that folks are upset at the turn he's taken in ipytm. i'm also disappointed that it seems like teh remains the main character in ipytm while oh-aew's role has been reduced, because i can tell pp's acting has really improved and i would have loved to see more of him on the screen. the cheating storyline also makes it a lot harder to root for teh and oh-aew, and that honestly hurts the audience and affects our relationship to the show, and is another consequence of the writers choosing to go in that direction.
for me personally, itsay was full of angst but it gave me joy to watch because i loved watching teh and oh-aew fall in love with each other and i was rooting for them to overcome their obstacles to be together. ipytm has proven a lot more stressful to watch, where it doesn't spark that same joy but a lot more anxiety about "what's next," which was definitely a choice in setting the mood of the sequel. the material just doesn't work with the audience's emotions in the same way, it almost works against us. there's not the same sense of comfort and nostalgia and romance, but a darker realism of coming of age, and i wouldn't blame people for dropping off for that because it's a legitimate shift and doesn't match everyone's tastes in terms of the media they want to consume. i think we can hate the choices that were made here because they don't speak to our demands as an audience, but i wouldn't say they did it for the drama or for the ratings.
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