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sowed some stuff but i’m thinking i might not reap it. if it sucks i’ll probably just not reap it.

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✞ 666 ✞

#art

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betrayal

#arcane #silco

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Not one to be dramatic about a piece of literature but when spinner said "we really connected about video games and stuff" that literally broke my heart holy shit

#spinner #shigaraki tomura #spinaraki #bnha

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*opens fic*

“Shiggy-”

*closes fic*

#shigaraki tomura #bnha

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as we rush towards the end, chapter 343 left me feeling some type of way.

#aside from afo's jacket-off ofc #bnha 343 #bnha #I'm not salty just slightly briny

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straight up salacious sir please cover yourself.

#all for one #bnha 343 #bnha #nsfw

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chapter 223 page 13

#spinner #bnha

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you should write about Spinner’s change in this arc. I’ve read your stories and they’re rlly good! I’m curious about your thoughts on where he’s going

why thank you my dear, i'm glad you like the fics! just for that i can tell you directly where spinner is going, and that is the kitc

okay realsies. Let's start here: I don't think Spinner has changed this arc (yet?)! @codenamesazanka described his current state as a regression; I think you could also describe his current circumstances as a stagnation, or him being on the precipice of either falling further into his lack of self-worth and passivity, or pushing forth to regain the spark of motivation that propelled him from his bedroom to follow Stain, that had him latching onto a speeding van into a disaster zone.

Rest below the readmore. It’s absolutely incoherent, sorry.

Spinner's role in MVA is somewhat of a "part one" of a character arc that Horikoshi intended to pick up later (as we see with the continuing affirmations of Spinner's loyalty to Shigaraki, and his front line role in the heteromorph discrimination plot thread). When Spinner developed in MVA, he became honest with himself about being kind of lame (he's an empty cosplayer [220], he's a nobody who jumped on a bandwagon, and what's wrong with that! [233]). He's no longer the bombastic idealogue of the forest training arc, he's just a guy who'll whatever he can for the cause & person he’s dedicated himself to.

He's also changed not only the target of his loyalty from Stain to Shigaraki, but the nature of that loyalty. Stain is someone he never met, who's ideals he never actually understood or cared about specifically. He admired Stain as a passionate, self-motivated symbol. Shigaraki, on the other hand, is someone he actually met. He goes from critical of Shigaraki, to relating to Shigaraki on their shared "emptiness", to genuinely admiring Shigaraki. and Shigaraki isn't just some distant figure to project onto - they've apparently bonded over gaming (SHOW ME THE PANELS HORIKOSHI), he's shown to actively care about Shigaraki!

But those developements haven't changed Spinner's base flaws: he still sees himself as an "average dude", a nobody. And he still lacks the self-motivation that he admires in people like Stain and Shigaraki. This is heart-breakingly evident in chapter 341, where he denies his ability to inspire and lead the disaffected heteromorphs (and doesn't really want to do so), and passively goes along with AFO’s plans because he thinks it's what Shigaraki wants (UNLESS he has something under his sleeves cmon boy).

That leaves us with two main paths. A) either Spinner is unable to break free of those flaws and he becomes little more than fodder who gets killed or arrested in the endgame, wherein Shouji probably plays the role of the Good Heteromorph to deal with the discrimination plot while Deku gets all the credit for saving Shigaraki, or B) Spinner does confront those flaws and starts pulling some shit.

First option is fucking depressing and a waste of the time dedicated to Spinner in MVA, and to his genuine care for Shigaraki. Second option could spin out in a variety of ways, so let's consider some factors factors that can impact it.

Will his main focus in the endgame be on his relationship with Shigaraki, his leadership over the heteromorph rebels, or will Horikoshi manage to weave these plots together in a satisfying way? Obviously the bulk of Spinner’s plotline has been about how he feels about Shigaraki, so it’s weird if that doesn’t factor into his endgame, but Spinner is also the character most closely aligned to the heteromorph discrimination thread, and it’d be also really weird for him to drop that for Shouji to pick up instead. How can they be intertwined appropriately?

Spinner needs a kick in the ass to knock him off the forementioned precipice. Something that helps hims realize that he isn’t just a passive tool. 

A fair amount of fandom speculation suggests that this kick in the ass could be a confrontation with Deku (who wants to stop Shigaraki but also feels compelled to help him, and who Spinner once spared way back in forest training) or Shouji (fellow heteromorph, Horikoshi has long promised a big moment for him with the scraps he gets in the manga relating to their shared discrimination). I’m more or less okay with this depending on how it works out, but I do find those two characters personal disatisfying.

It could also not be related to the heroes at all! Maybe AFO pulls some bullshit or ShigaFo does something that finally gets Spinner to realise that none of this is right. Maybe he turns his army against AFO, maybe he does something underhanded, maybe he gets the opportunity to actively choose to team up with Deku or whoever if in the middle of battle something happens that tells him they could help, who’s to say!

This is a personal thing, but I think Spinner's quirk needs a moment. In MVA, Koku (my love) noted that Spinner's "Gecko" quirk is weak, that this weakness contributed to his marginalization. I am DYING for this moment to be followed up on, not in some dumb evolution or by AFO giving him a new quirk, but by “Gecko", as benign as it is, do a thing. Considering that the heroes plan is to separate all the villains, but Spinner's quirk and one of his related character traits is that he clings...

Another thing personal thing I’d like to see is Spinner’s understated potential for leadership, as a proper second in command given some experience and confidence, to be realised. Whether he decides he should do right by his unwanted followers, or starts leveraging them for Shigaraki’s sake properly, or manages to rally the League (as in Toga and Shigaraki, #whocaresaboutdabiagenda) to take control of their narratives back from AFO.

I have an older post here that discusses this, but I’ve long toyed with the thought that Spinner’s story would lead to one decision: does he prioritize fulfilling the utterly destroyed horizon that Shigaraki spoke of, even if enables Shigaraki’s self-destruction, or does he betray that dream and prioritize Shigaraki’s well-being? Based on 341 and that precipice I discussed previously, I think this choice is coming for Spinner, and he’s going to have to confront himself, what he’s doing, and who he wants to be both for himself and the people he cares about in order to make that choice.

and then he gets shigaraki and toga (and in my dreams compress, kurogiri?, skeptic?) the FUCK outta here there’s gonna be a bnha shippuden where it’s revealed that the remaining plf are squatting in a quaint lil house as they do whatever, who cares, spinner is shigaraki’s bitchy housewife now, the end babes!

#!!!!!!! #spinner #shigaraki tomura #bnha meta #bnha

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i would make an excellent goon. i’d be like ”on it boss” and then i’d fuck it up instantly.

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Another old tweet from Spinner’s VA Ryou Iwasaki!

During a talk with my manager about the November Event, he said, “When will Spinner get a power up?” I replied, “He’s fine the way he is. He is someone whose weakness is meaningful. I want him to be a person who fights with spirit more than ability.” [Manager] also asked “When will the Quirk be used,” so I stuck myself! On to the wall! Haha.

This man knows his character. 🙏🏼👍🏼❤️

#the ultimate ally #done so wrong by the anime.so wrong #spinner #bnha

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Feral corporate creature man.

#bnha #redestro #skeptic

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I will forever believe, claim, insist, KNOW that Hawks did not have to kill Twice. In fact killing Twice fucked things up even more.

We know what type of person Twice is. Hawks knew part of it too. We know that Twice is a 'good guy' at heart. Twice joined the League for acceptance when the rest of society rejected him. Twice warms up to people who are nice to him. Twice will repay the help he is given. Twice will listen to people who are sincere, who trusts him, who respects his wishes, who treats him with dignity (See: Shigaraki telling him to join the yazkuza). Twice cared deeply for the League, and all of his actions and motivation was simply to make sure the League would be okay, the League would be safe, the League will be happy.

Twice would've killed for the League - but he just as much would've not if he did not feel the League was threatened, if he was told not to by Shigaraki, or any other member, for that matter. Taking that farther, because his core drive is the League's well-being, had Twice been promised that the League will be helped, had been convinced that ultimately what's best for the League is to be stopped, that gleeful self-destruction is not true happiness - that the Heroes will save the League instead of putting them down - I firmly believe Twice would've reluctantly helped the Heroes. At the very least, he might've taken some deal not to use his clones in exchange for those promises.

Hawks killed Twice not because it was justice or judgment. He did not do it out of self-defense, or because someone was in immediate danger, or because it was his last, last option. Hawks killed Twice to prevent a crime he thought will be committed but hasn't even happened, because of the maybe-possibility Twice might use his clones, because he thought Twice was the main threat, without complete information or evidence - we see that he didn't know who the fuck Dabi was or the damage Dabi could do to erode public trust, he did not know that Shigaraki was receiving AFO or the level of power Shigaraki would have. He didn't know shit. He talked to some MLA warehouse grunts and thought he discovered the ultimate source of dissatisfaction.

Hawks killed Twice because he thought it was simply the fastest way to do things. Not the fairest or just, not the safest, not the most foolproof. Not even the easiest. He killed Twice out of convenience, using his usual MO - speed - without wondering if it was appropriate and fitting. Currently he feels no guilt, I think because he still believes he did the right thing, that Twice's death was inevitable, that there was no other way to stop Twice, that 'Twice was a good guy but [flawed cost-benefit analysis], that Twice would've blindly listened to the League - of which Hawks also believed had no deeper motivation.

I really, with my whole heart, believe that Hawks literally could've put candy underneath a propped cardboard box, and captured Twice like that. Bring Eraserhead into the plan if he was so worried about quirks. Then really talk to Twice. Fucking offer a plea deal. Hawks offered to help Twice - but he never offered what Twice really wanted: to help Twice's friends.

Twice, in the end, used Double as a last-ditch effort at survival, both his and the League's. He was cornered physically, emotionally, lead to believe he had no other option to help and save the League. We see that that was his final, ultimate goal and achieve, the very last act he pushed himself to do: To save Toga and Mr. Compress, which did involve killing a Hero. Yet note that that was the only Hero he killed, also because he was desperate - his last act was not revenge, or a rampage, or indiscriminate killing, or destruction like his leader wanted; instead it was to save the people he loved.

That was his heart's deepest, purest desire. Hawks never bothered to find that out. His assassination of Twice wasn't his last option, or the best option, or even the one with minimum bloodshed. It was simply because he decided, without the full picture, killing Twice was the *fastest* plan.

Heroes keep failing because they just don't look. They see only the surface, and even then, they look past *what they believe to be* minor threats to target *what they believe to be* the biggest one. They don't see the League as individual people with specific grievances or different motivation - they simply see them as the extension of Shigaraki's power, and Shigaraki they don't even see as human, really. 'Know your enemy' is the most well-known and oldest tactic of war, and Heroes just fucking ignore it completely.

Heroes don't look, don't pay attention - that's their biggest flaw, the flaw they always had. They focus only on the big, flashy, shiny thing; never the small tiny things. Again and again, the manga tells us about the minor pricks that accumulate to deep suffering, small cracks that eventually crumble the entire building down, all the small things they could've handled that join to become a juggernaut they can't. That's the ultimate symbolism of Shigaraki Tomura - Shimura Tenko's despair - no one reaching out a hand to a small lost child but instead always ready to punch a giant Villain, not realizing they can be one and the same.

#🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️ #jin bubaigawara #hawks #toga himiko #bnha meta #bnha

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for him

#spinner #bnha

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#:') #toga himiko #jin bubaigawara #bnha

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pleasant dreams

#toga himiko #bnha

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Jesus was an empath for sensing that one out of his 12 boy toys was going to betray him.