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figured i’d take the chance to clear out my askbox! answers under the cut
@90erin nope! greg’s just greg!
i think someone else brought this up, but gravity falls and steven universe are incompatible in terms of geography. they literally can’t be the same earth.
i haven’t watched steven universe in a long time but the earth of SU, which has had direct impact from what i think was the gem war and previous colonization, is very different from gravity falls, which is closer to being set in our world. you can literally see that florida doesn’t exist at all in SU, whereas it’s present in maps in gravity falls
now otgw, because it’s so contained and we don’t TECHNICALLY know where it’s set, just when (the late 80′s/early 90′s), COULD be in the world of SU, but personally i don’t see it, and if it’s an either/or i’m coming out on the side of gravity falls. it makes sense with the timeline, and also makes more sense emotionally! it would be really sad if after the events of otgw greg and wirt just. drift apart to the point where greg doesn’t have any close family other than Xenophobic Uncle Andy.
(edit 11/17/2020: given this thread which theorizes that greg’s birthdate is 1972 - which, reminder, is approximately when the pines twins’ father was born - and the SU timeline on the wiki page, confirmation from the creators putting him at his early 20′s in the 90′s, and SU itself being set in the 2010′s when greg is somewhere in his 40′s, greg universe would absolutely be too old to be the greg of over the garden wall.)
now this doesn’t mean SU and GF could never intersect - obviously given the existence of the portal and various mentioned other dimensions in gravity falls, it’s totally possible if the pines went to other dimensions or other characters from other shows did the same, it could happen! it’s just not my personal taste. i find the aesthetic and general feel of steven universe too separate for it to be something i feel meshes well with the horror/parananormal/wacky vibe of gravity falls. i take the business of crossovers pretty seriously in this one instance because of all of the behind-the-scenes research and planning i do, but provided you go with the multiple dimensions and portal explanation, anything’s possible!
for the matter of how greg’s life goes after otgw, i imagine he grows up to write songs for kids shows! i really really like the idea of greg staying in his hometown and relaying letters from “aunty” lorna and beatrice to wirt ,sara, and the twins via his magic frog jason funderburker. since i personally believe that otgw is set in massachusetts (it’s definitely in new england given the colonial aspects and architecture of the graveyard), it also puts him in range of hearing about the blithe hollow haunting of 2010. yes i love tie-ins.
dipper came out to his parents around 4! once he started having a concept of how other people saw him, he started expressing discomfort with some of the clothes he wore (he ended up in a lot of matching outfits with mabel thanks to family gifts, and not all of them were really gendered clothes but enough of them were to become a problem) and stating he was a boy when other people interacted with him. pretty much from the second that came out of dipper’s mouth wirt and sara were on it - wirt’s got a complicated relationship with gender, and they’re both bi so they’re better equipped to deal with stuff as part of the lgbt community! i address some more about this in the ask below.
so i imagine that given how ready mabel is to write letters to her parents she trusts them enough to immediately spill the beans even with the ridiculous amount of traumatic stuff that happened to her and dipper during weirdmageddon and before.
there are prevailing headcanons that the twins wouldn’t tell their parents, but imo that wouldn’t happen in wirt and sara’s case bc they’ve worked really hard to make sure their kids know they’re supported, listened to and loved 1000%. both sara and wirt have a complicated relationship with their parents (not abusive, but wirt’s got abandonment issues from his parents’ divorce and the mess with his stepdad and greg that he’s had to work on and other things i’ll be getting into in future art, and sara’s mom was overbearing when she was younger, but once sara moved out and set clear boundaries they were able to build a much better relationship and settle their differences!) and they don’t want their kids to feel ignored or like they don’t have a voice in their family.
sara and wirt already go to therapy both individually and as a family later on, and though they can’t really talk about their supernatural experiences with a normal counselor they are able to learn techniques to help each other and their kids, and they DO eventually find a reputable therapist who has experience dealing with strange phenomena affecting their clients through ford!
sara and wirt’s love for their kids is truly unconditional, and the kids know it! it’s part of the reason dipper is able to come out so young - his parents help him transition socially pretty much immediately. they talk to his teachers, go out and get him a new wardrobe and help him pick out more toys and new things for his side of the bedroom, and generally move heaven and earth to make sure it’s as comfortable as possible for him! other kids and some adults are still assholes to both him and mabel for a variety of reasons, which is where a lot of his insecurities come from, but he knows without a shadow of a doubt his parents love him and have his back no matter what.
the actual SUBSTANCE of what the twins tell wirt in fall 2012 is liable to give him heart palpitations. he’s a consummate worrywirt.
(the image of wirt getting mabel’s letter about her two grunkles like a day before the kids get back bc Snail Mail and then proceeding to have a panic attack on the living room carpet until sara comes home from work lives in my head rent free)
wirt, in the timeline, would’ve been around 10 when ford went missing and then stan faked his own death and took his place, given that wirt’s the baby from a tale of two stans set in 1972, and ford goes through the portal in 1982. shermie and wirt’s mom would definitely be divorced by then since greg’s like. 5ish? (this polygon article places him at 5, which. OUCH.) and i think otgw would be set October 1987, when wirt’s 15.
at the time of the funeral, wirt would be adjusting to the divorce, a new dad, and a new baby brother. going to the funeral of someone he hasn’t seen since he was a literal infant, and then proceeding to get rebuffed by someone he thinks is the uncle he was close with who babysat him (bc stan literally hasn’t seen wirt since he got kicked out. i also think about wirt sending letters to his uncle in gravity falls as a kid and ford responding and then those letters just....stop. and then stan later finds the letters. and i cry buckets) would be TRAUMATIZING. wirt SCREAMS abandonment issues to me, and this issue with father figures early on would absolutely further set up his resentment of his stepdad and greg.
wirt has to work really hard emotionally to let “uncle ford” back into his life, changed as he is. but he does, enough to invite stan to the birth of the twins.
ford coming back would probably make wirt’s head explode, and trust issues would crop up again.
we actually joked in my gf groupchat about how ford didn’t actually see an anomaly in the arctic, he and stan just wanted to get out to sea to avoid the wrath of wirt and sara once they found out about all the child endangerment and trauma the twins went through.
that leads neatly into the idea of wirt coming with the twins next summer bc he doesn’t trust stan and ford but the kids LOVE gravity falls and want to go back so he and sara don’t want to deny them that, and that opens up a WHOLE bunch of possibilities for conflict and reconciliation and growth and family adventures.
once wirt has calmed down enough to Process, he and sara sit the twins down and tell them about Halloween Night 1987, and the encounters with the unknown they’ve had since. aunty beatrice and lorna from the letters they get and who mabel sends pictures to live there, the few times they’ve been back, and how the closer they are to their hometown the more easy it is to slip back into the unknow in dreams (canonical to the 2016 dreamland melodies run of the otgw comics, my literal favorite bc they have sara in them!).
(sidenote: i am COMPLETELY obsessed with the idea of wirt soothing the baby twins to sleep with his poetry, and particularly “Underneath the Fading Moon” from the For Sara tape. go listen to that and TELL me that doesn’t fit. star imagery for sara and the twins makes me bananas)
this leads to dipper researching supernatural hotspots and unexplained events in the U.S., with massachusetts being a particular hotspot, and opens it up to.....dun DUN! paranorman again baby!!!!
@confused-sagittarius tysm! this is a super cute idea, but the in-universe explanation is that sara’s mother’s side also has identical twins that run in the family - double trouble! i’ll be going into more about both family sides in future content, but there WILL be sara bonding time with both stan and ford, both bc of sara’s profession in astrophysics and her being the catalyst for stan and wirt reconciling.
@to-be-a-hiccup i am planning to outline S3 of the Stranger Falls AU, but it’s probably not going to be finalized until after S4 of stranger things airs! a lot of S3 kind of threw me for a loop tone-wise and character-wise (it was VERY 80′s movie, even more so than the previous two seasons), so it’s going to require a larger overhaul and i definitely want the context of S4 before i go ahead bc backtracking and rewriting would be a major pain in the ass if anything doesn’t fit correctly. most likely S3 is going to require a LOT more rewriting and divergence from ST, and i don’t want to introduce characters i have planned too soon just in case.
@panur unfortunately no :( at least as a mabifica film, the possibility has kind of died off.
it’s been too many years and too little work done on the film for it to pull together, and i’ve also changed the way i do art! i still love the song, and might revisit it with some original characters in the future. there are also absolutely be some other mabifica shorts/amvs in the works!
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thank you so much! 🤗 prospective convert for about 2 years now - covid has kind of put the kibosh on the process, but i’m taking hebrew courses, attending virtual services, and learning as much as i can in the meantime :) shavua tov!
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