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listen I am absolutely not ok with elain being a high lady if nesta, queen of mother fucking queens, is not

#nesta archeron #anti elain archeron

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And no.

There is a great number of Nesta-antis who couldn't care less about Nesta, growth or not. Their commitment to hating this character surpasses any acknowledgement of her mental health journey and all the pain she went through in ACOSF. They have been very vocal about it, going to great lengths not only to attack Nesta, but those that support her.

You may feel differently, but unless you are speaking on behalf of every single Nesta-anti out there, you can't make such generalized claims or ignore what has already been put out there.

As for your "itty bitty teensy" request. Let's be SO serious.

What you "need" from Nesta to like her and "be on board" does not matter. Nobody is waiting on bated breath for your approval. I promise, all "routines" will move forward just fine without you lol

I hope you eventually realize that Nesta and her sisters (and the IC) are flawed characters and have made decisions that have affected each other for better and for worse. Let go of this obsession that the burden solely falls on Nesta to apologize and recognize the shared responsibility of all characters involved. Mistakes have been made on all sides at multiple occasions.

That being said, not everyone needs an apology from Nesta. And Nesta isn't obligated to hand out apologizes if she feels she doesn't need to. Isn't that what Cassian told her as well? "Apologize to who you need to but move forward" (or something like that). And exactly why does she need to apologize to the IC anyway? She already did to Amren.

I don't know where you get the confidence to say about someone who is struggling with mental health that they will not achieve full healing UNLESS they apologize and talk about what they have been through...but let that go.

Believe it or not, Nesta was not on a Redemption arc and never needed one. She also doesn't need to make apologies for her journey to be valid.

From what I can tell after reading HOFAS, Nesta has built a small circle of people that she considers family. Based on the names Azriel listed, some were included, others were left out. And every person that was mentioned already loves her deeply. The health of her relationships in the ACOTAR series (or at least the ones that matter) are doing just fine. So no need to worry there.

With HOFAS out in the world and seeing Nesta again, I want to reiterate that people who don’t love Nesta/aren’t her stans recognize everything about her mental health journey and all the self hatred and pain she had to overcome to be the healthy, well-adjusted adult she is in HOFAS. We love her for that! We’re proud of her for it! We just need one itty bitty teensy thing from her to be 100% on board and that is a verbal acknowledgement to Feyre and Elain (and tbh the rest of the inner circle) that she was struggling in the past and made decisions she wouldn’t make today and apologize for hurting them. That’s it! Then everything can continue on as routine. I just need this moment, on paper, in the canon. It’s important to not only Nesta’s full healing and redemption arc but also to the health of all her relationships in the ACOTAR series.

#I had time today #nesta archeron #pro nesta #these nesta antis are something else #can you imagine the audacity and entitlement #anti acosf #anti ic #Amren didn't deserve an apology either

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I really relate to Bryce Quinlan because after 30 seconds in Rhysand’s presence I too would start wishing I could be in hell instead.

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Legally Blonde (2001) dir. Robert Luketic

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#we love ember Quinlan in this house

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Have y’all notice that in canon, everyone who meets Nesta that isn’t tied to the IC likes her? Just me?

#the nesta archeron effect

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It's infuriating how SJM believes that everyone needs to be involved in their relationship. Their history is very complicated and it's going to take time to heal and repair. Involving the likes of the IC, especially Rhysand, only continues to set them back. They have no right to be speaking or involving themselves in a relationship as complex as theirs.

It's crazy how we are 5 books in and have yet to see them actually talk about their past without interruptions. But everyone else has an opinion of what happened during their childhood and who should bear the brunt of the blame.

So tired of the “Nesta has hurt and wronged so many people” narrative because who are they talking about? 

A case can be made for both Feyre and Cassian, sure. While a similar case can be made for their treatment towards her. But that’s literally it. 

Rhysand? Please

Morrigan? Get over yourself

Elain? Out of the question

Azriel? Of course not

Amren? I. Wish.

Nesta isn’t the monster you all have made her out to be and she always delivers what she has been served. Treat her with respect and she will treat you accordingly. 

#anti ic #anti rhysand #anti acosf #nesta archeron

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a major issue with cassian’s treatment of nesta in acosf is the power imbalance. like, if these two were on equal footing and cassian hadn’t been tasked with “helping” her while she’s trapped in the house of wind (and he’s not), things between them would be very different. there’s less of an expectation for him to treat her well if they were on equal footing, but they haven’t ever been that way. they could be genuine enemies and rivals if nesta were able to fight back as much as he is, and there wasn’t that clear power he holds over her.

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I really don't think SJM handled the Nesta x Papa Archeron ending well. It's all well and good for Nesta to go back to the cottage and face some of her hardest memories.

But what she should have taken from it, in addition to seeing her father in a different light, is accepting her anger towards him and making peace with it.

Because as much as the book tries to say otherwise, her anger was warranted. The first book in the series paints Papa Archeron in a very clear way. He didn't do much for his daughters. His pride and ego kept him from facing his new reality and showing up for them when they needed him most.

The ending of the book should have focused more on her forgiving him and showing grace. Rather than believing she needed to "beg for forgiveness" for being angry at him for not protecting her (and her sisters) the way they deserved.

#nesta archeron #papa archeron #anti acosf

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Yeah, this was after the wall had broken down and Nesta fainted/recovered. Its really so funny to me how she can reassure Nesta that it wasn't her fault...but think such terrible things.

“Even now, seated around the town house dining table in Velaris, I hadn’t decided whether the potential of breaking my sister permanently was worth the cost of saving lives. ”

-Feyre Archeron, ACOWAR

#anti feyre #pro nesta

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Oh One Piece and your plethora of absolutely bangable Daddies.

#IKTR #one piece #zoro #my man my man my man

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It's such a great point to mention family therapy. It's 100% true that when something happens to one family member, the others are affected deeply and seek help. In relation to Nesta and Elain, the only reason Elain was taken by Hybern that night was because Nesta scryed to deep + the cauldron's hatred towards her. So it's expected, like you said, that Nesta (and Feyre) would be impacted by what happened to their sister.

As for your point about Elain, I have no issue about her wanting to be more assertive/stand her ground. Great for her. Nesta (and Feyre) have to adjust and learn to let Elain be her own person. There is a long history of them protecting and shielding her that they need to unlearn. But I don't believe anyone has forgotten that Elain has gone through shit. Quite the opposite really since in this scene, Nesta is desperately trying to get her to remember.

My issue is that "living for herself" means diminishing someone else's lived experiences. There is space for Elain to take control of her life, while also acknowledging that she isn't the only who has trauma from that night.

Elain says very plainly, "what my trauma, has done to you." Because in Elain's mind, since she was the one targeted and taken by Hybern, she faced/suffered the most. This is thoughtless, and selfish.

This comes as a response to Nesta voicing: "It nearly killed me. It trapped me like a bird in a cage."

Nesta's physical reactions during their conversation was also indicative of how triggering just talking about it was:

“[...]”Nesta countered, fighting her shaking.

Roaring erupted in Nesta’s head

Nesta’s pulse pounded throughout her body.

Nesta's trauma surrounding the cauldron/that night is so great that when she scrys for the first time in months, she has a nightmare so powerful that Rhys had to come in and subdue her. Rhys even references how serious her trauma is and feels remorse. Rhys.

Truthfully, it isn't "what my trauma has done to you," but rather "what your trauma, continues to do to yourself."

Healing from her trauma and moving forward is such a big part of the book and Nesta's journey. Which is why I had issues with what Elain said because Nesta has trauma too. And she doesn't get to take sole ownership, in the name of "being more assertive."

Elain telling Nesta “All you can think about is what my trauma has done to you” was incredibly ignorant and no one can convince me otherwise.

For some reason, Elain thinks the trauma that had resulted from that night belongs solely to her and Nesta is being selfish for trying to take any ownership of it.

Everything in Nesta’s life, has always been about Elain. She came first and she never stopped to think about how it could impact Nesta. Very rarely does Nesta have the time to face her own trauma and learn to heal from it because she was always in environments/situations that put her on guard to protect her sister. And Elain has always been comfortable allowing her to do so while she retreats to the background where it was safe. She has never thought twice about putting Nesta in these positions all her life. 

When the sisters first come to Pythian, Elain completely checks out from the weight of the loss and trauma she has experienced. Which is completely understandable. But she isn’t the only one to have lost so much. So had Nesta. But at a time where Nesta may have needed her support, she wasn’t there. 

All Elain could think about was what their shared trauma has done to her. But Nesta never cared.

Those first few weeks in Pythian? Nesta was there to check on her. To make sure she is eating. To ensure her wellbeing. To see to her needs. To make sure she is comfortable.

In ACOSF, for the first time in Nesta’s life, she isn’t capable of putting Elain first. But Elain is unwilling to confront the possibility that the trauma they both experienced that night may have affected her sister differently than it did her. As a result, she avoids putting herself in a position where she might have to face the full extent of that truth.

I’m not saying that Elain doesn’t have a right to feel greatly impacted by what had happened to her. She went through alot. But she doesn’t get to pick and choose whose trauma that night was greater and warrants more concern.

#nesta archeron #pro nesta #nesta acotar #anti elain #sorry I just don't like her #anti acosf

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that's the good shit right there

#yeah this was magical #I didn't even think it would happen tbh #but so glad it did

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breaking my silence idc

nesta didn't tell feyre about the pregnancy to hurt her but to prove a point. and the fact this went over so many people's heads is concerning, bcs what do you mean lol. did it end up hurting feyre? yes! does she feel instant regret? also yes! but that's not mutually exclusive with the fact that she was trying to make feyre see that IC doesn't respect BOTH of them!

so every time i see people saying that nesta is devil's right hand for purposefully hurting feyre by doing this, i just stare at my phone and laugh.

#yup #But the fandom never puts accountability and rhysand in the same sentence #anti rhysand

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lowkey tho? Nesta isn't even that mean. She gets mean when she's provoked. otherwise she's civil and direct. ppl are perceiving it as being mean bec she's not being overtly nice

you can still be direct and civil and not overly nice without being mean. honestly she's just not performing Femininity and Customer Service Voice

#nesta acotar #nesta archeron #perfectly said

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I agree so much with this. I don't know why half of the fandom makes the situation into something it clearly isn't. It's literally canon that both Feyre and Cassian understood her real intentions. It was never to hurt her, but to defend them both from their similar mistreatment.

I always viewed the pregnancy reveal as a "not thinking before I speak" situation because Nesta was beyond angry that night, she was livid (and with good reason too). With emotions running that high, Nesta wasn't in the right headspace to calmly assess the significance of the reveal. She was more focused on proving a point than remembering the true weight of her words.

And honestly, that isn't entirely her fault. Unlike Feyre, Nesta has had plenty of time to accept that her sister's pregnancy might kill her. She has been through the shock, anger, grief etc long before this day. It's the whole reason why she's been risking her life to find the trove in the first place. Which is why she is able to speak about the truth of Feyre's pregnancy with such casualness, because it has become her reality. She lives with that truth everyday.

The entire issue here is that at the height of her anger, she forgot Feyre hasn't been granted that same privilege of knowing. Because Rhysand decided to keep this information from her (and ordered the rest of the IC to follow suit), Feyre has been kept in the dark. It is Rhysand who has disrespected Feyre and broken his vows to treat her as an equal. It is Rhysand who continues to put everything on his shoulders despite Feyre and the others' demands to stop. Rhysand is at the centre of all of this. And if it hadn't been for Nesta, who knows when he would have finally confessed.

But of course, let's blame the one who actually told her over the ones who would be more than willing to deny Feyre any agency over her body, life and decisions.

breaking my silence idc

nesta didn't tell feyre about the pregnancy to hurt her but to prove a point. and the fact this went over so many people's heads is concerning, bcs what do you mean lol. did it end up hurting feyre? yes! does she feel instant regret? also yes! but that's not mutually exclusive with the fact that she was trying to make feyre see that IC doesn't respect BOTH of them!

so every time i see people saying that nesta is devil's right hand for purposefully hurting feyre by doing this, i just stare at my phone and laugh.

#that's your feminist king right #anti rhysand #because he didn't get punished enough #pro nesta #today tomorrow and everyday #anti sjm #for her blatant favouritism and misogynistic narratives #anti acosf #because this fandom hasn't known a day of peace since its release

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this comment on that vulture article about the "fanfic-to-romance novel pipeline" is very interesting and not something i've seen articulated...much to think about...