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derp-dragon · 2 months

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How abaut it starts with you opted out and u can let them plagerise your content if you want insted of stealing unactive and worst case senerio dead pepoles work?

I love how all cutesy tumblrs astetic is but at the end of the day its as souless as anything else in the modern internet.

Get this garbage out of your site or stop pretending u gave a shit abaut the comunity

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derp-dragon · 2 years

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I agree that they could have flashed out his ties to Zaun better but I think his introduction serves as exacly the oposite of this.

The point isn’t that he introduced himself as part of the establishment but that if he wanted respect he had to.

If he just simply stated his name, wich probably immediately would have revealed him as coming from the under city (it seems the under city people don’t have second names and he even says he does’t have a fancy family name), he would have risked not to be taken seriously by Jayce (and even maybe the officers).

If he wanted to ensure things to go smoothly and him to be taken seriously thats an information he needed to keep to himself.

I guess you can read it in a way that the only way that disadvantaged people like him can access to power is thought the establishment witch ensures that they stay obedient to it otherwise they risk loosing it.

And theres an argument to be made that still he should be loud about it, and that would be more interesting, and in a way I agree, but it makes sense for his character that he isn’t and again, if he want to do his job well and secure his position he probably does’t have the time or energy to constantly argue about it with idiots.

At least until he finds a better opportunity.

But this is just my reading on things.

real talk though is it just me or isn’t presenting Viktor as “assistant to the dean of the academy” with the authority to put ppl like Jayce into prison in ep 2 a strange way to introduce a character who fundamentally represents opposition to institutional (specifically, academic) corruption and intolerance of new ideas?

Like, I’m not saying that a character with those specific qualities CAN’T interact with positions of power as a way to develop their arcs, but I noticed that many first-time arcane viewers saw viktor as the one with institutional power in act 1, and that jayce was the underdog (despite him coming from a relatively privileged socioeconomic position). it almost feels like the writers took an important aspect of Viktor’s established identity in lore and gave it to jayce. and it’s good that they gave jayce a sympathetic, relatable personality rather than make him an asshole, but i felt that this initial setup prevents Viktor from developing as much as he could have in Acts 2 and 3.

by introducing Viktor as aligned with Piltover via his “dean’s assistant” position (only for him to clarify in passing that he is a Zaunite who made it to where he was because of his perseverance), it almost feels like Viktor’s deeper ties to the culture and community of Zaun are being erased just so we can get the “reveal” that this is what Vik looked like pre-augmentation. And Acts 2 and 3 give us some Viktor-Zaun interactions but they are either very limited or linked to individuals (ie Singed) who are already established as morally problematic characters. So these interactions don’t feel as “genuine” as Vi racing down to see the Lanes again, because every time we see vik interact with Zaun in Acts 2 and 3 it’s either to highlight how he’s doing something “wrong” (specifically by piltover’s standards), like voluntarily accepting shimmer, or to focus on his isolation, which feels very out of place given how much viktor thinks of others around him/those in need. idk if this makes sense but those are my thoughts, please feel free to discuss!

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derp-dragon · 2 years

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I agree with most of this but I don't neseserry think trying to develop her in the short time she was on screen was a bad idia, howewer the exocution was poor.

I think the idia behind her death, or what they where going for was that she was a complete person who Viktor did't bothered to even try to know. We follow things in Viktors pov so because he did't bothered to get to know her we did't get to know her either. It wanted to put the viever into his shoes and make us frustrated.

Howewer, the only way they developed her is in relation ship to him, from the moment we saw her in the flash back to her resarch, evrything we saw from her was in relation to him wich just made things feel a lot cheeper and akward.

I think it would have been beter if she wanted to get recognition from him or just wanted to show her own work because that better hints at something deeper going on with her then just a crush or at least its a bit less akward.

On a side note, I'm fearly sertain that Viktor kept Skys death a secret, when Jayce and him talk he activly hides her jurnal.

About Sky

“Was Sky fringed and, if she has, is it all that bad?” is a conversation that has been and still is ongoing when it comes to Arcane Season 1, and here’s my take on it: Sky has been fringed, but the writers probably tried (and failed) to not make it so. It is bad, but it is not that bad. Wow, way to not commit, you must be thinking. Just bear with me, because here’s the thing: I might be wrong, but I suspect that the writers didn’t know exactly what they wanted to do with her. On one hand, we don’t see her enough to establish a strong connection with her, on the other hand, we see her too much for the very point of her death to be that she was a random innocent bystander.

Sky was fringed in the sense that she is a character we hardly knew anything about whose death was used to further Viktor’s character development. It is a valid take that we were supposed to feel sad that she died, not because we had any connection or particular feelings towards her, but because Viktor, whom we know and love, did. Or that we were supposed to feel sad because she loved Viktor. Same thing. The fact that she is in Viktor’s flashback, implying that she has loved and admired him since childhood and stuck with him into adulthood, and the fact that she has two scenes establishing her (almost certainly) romantic feelings for him in Arcs II and III seem to support that theory. Arcane did not have time to go in depth on Sky’s backstory and her relationship with Viktor but tried to communicate it through those three scenes so that when she died, we were sad that it was her, specifically, who died, because she had this connection to Viktor. Arcane does similar things with other characters: for example, we see Powder have a mental breakdown only once, but we are supposed to infer from it that she has always struggled with mental health issues, and it works. For Sky, however, the result is that we are given a character – whose only defining trait is that she likes Viktor – being killed so that Viktor can be sad and grow as a person. Textbook fringing.

On the other hand, Arcane also goes out of its way to let us know that this relationship was very much one-sided: Viktor does not interact with her in the flashback scene, calls her “Miss Young” when they are adults, prioritises his work over her, has no idea about the research that she is doing and no idea what to do with her ashes when she’s dead (real question: does she not have family? Does he know whether or not she has family? Does he care? Is he keeping her death a secret to protect himself? For real, who knows that she’s dead? Does Jayce know?). Yet when she dies, the score, the cinematography, Viktor’s reaction… all of it indicates that we are still supposed to feel sad. Her death is a tragedy, but if we choose to focus on the fact that Viktor and her did not really know each other, then it is the very fact that she was a background character that we never noticed or paid attention to before that makes it so sad. It reminds us as well as Viktor that not only his life is important, that even somebody who is not a genius inventor with a tragic backstory has value, that every single death is a tragedy and that any experiment that will take life is not one worth conducting. Which is nice. It’s a nice message.

It doesn’t work though because the first interpretation can be made. Sky is not a stranger, per say. She’s a character about whom we know too little to care, but too much to not notice.

I feel like there is a simple fix to this problem; it’s just for Arcane to commit. If you want to commit to making her a full-blown character, then include more scenes of her and give her a life and personality outside of her connection to Viktor. If you want to commit to making her a nobody whose death is tragic because we don’t know her, then do not show her in Viktor’s flashback and tone down her interactions with him (maybe don’t have her speak at all until her death scene, that would be a slap in the face). I personally think the second solution is the best, simply because Arcane clearly doesn’t have the time or space to make Sky a more prominent character, the cast is already packed, and she doesn’t have enough depth as she is that we would miss her screentime.

Bonus: This is complete speculation, but I’m thinking, maybe the writers originally wrote Sky to just be there, have a crush on Viktor, and die, then thought “No, we can’t have a character just exist to die, we should develop her a little more so that her death can have more impact” and then inserted her into Viktor’s flashback. A mistake, imo.

#arcane meta #viktor #sky #arcane

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derp-dragon · 2 years

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