dinocanid

[dinocanid]

Saw a similar post and decided to make my own detailing my experience. Between the ages of [baby] to 11 or 12, I fully believed I was a dog that somehow got Freaky Friday'd into a human body. I'd navigate on all fours a lot and spend a bunch of time in my "dens" (which were basically homemade forts), and was generally pretty Feral™️. Would also tell my friends that I was secretly a dog and had the sharp incisors to prove it. At the time I predicted it was probably clinical zoanthropy, but it wasn't, and around 13 it had mellowed out a considerable amount (in part due to Ammy's training, thankya Ammy /pos). I had also known about nonhuman identity labels like otherkinity and therianthropy for a couple years at that point, and eventually decided those fit best since I still considered myself nonhuman in a human body, but not in the same way zoanthropes experience it. Like yeah I'm nonhuman but I don't have to deal with the transformation stuff they do

#alterhuman #otherkin #dino rambles #nonhuman

[dinocanid]

I act and move in an animal-like manner but am rarely an animal in my dreams. I'm usually referred to as a "weird dog-person thing" and can only guess how I look to those people since reflections don't exist in my dreams. Based on my limbs I seem human though, I can only count one time I managed to turn around and see a tail

I go just absolutely feral a lot in my dreams, especially ones produced by my stress or anxiety, but I swear I'm NEVER in a lion body or even any other animal. Just human. What's up with that??

#dino rambles

[dinocanid]

I'm black and alterhuman, and there's others that are as well. I actually did a survey on POC in the alterhuman community last year, but I've been too busy to get the results up. There's a lot more non-white people in the community than you think, trust me

Therianthropy isn't limited by race

Are there any therians that aren't white/caucasian? If there are please repost.

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I'm a black/African American alterhuman and furry and I'm ashamed of showing that side of me in public because of what my mother said to me. I feel like it's not really show in video media or public places. I want to wear gear and not feel ashamed of shifts in public. I feel that if I it's normalized that certain things aren't just for certain races that people like me wouldn't feel so ashamed to step out of my comfort zone.

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So if you would, please repost. I want to know. If you even have your own experiences like this too feel free to add on. It would mean the world to me.

[dinocanid]

If someone doesn't understand a joke and asks you to explain it, explain the joke. Don't be exclusionary to neurodivergent people. Don't belittle people for needing an explanation. Don't be a dick.

I say this as a neurodivergent person who has seen so many people be rude extremely often to people that just cannot understand a joke. To the point where they're calling them stupid, "you must not be X if you don't understand it", or lazy for "not just googling it".

And no, "just google it" is not always a proper answer to explaining a joke. Sometimes the explanation is straight up not on google, or the info that person might find is wrong.

Just explain the joke. It's not hard. It doesn't ruin the joke. Be considerate of neurodivergent people. Don't be a dick.

#dino rambles #neurodivergent

[dinocanid]

Otherkin should simply be "A being who identifies as a nonhuman creature" without the "not real" part. The "not real" part would be inaccurate since otherkin of earthly animals exist

'hearted and 'kith (otherhearted and otherkith? I forget their full versions) can also be added to synpath, because they're more or less the same thing. Synpath was invented by someone who didn't know about the existence of heartedness iirc, explaining the redundancy

(This was a comment, but decided to reblog instead since my followers might know something about the other terms)

update

hey hello i already have some terms and there defenitions done if you want to see any terms added/think the defenition wording should be changed tell me <3/nf/gen

Therian-A being who identifies as an animal(can be used as a umbrella term)

Theriotype-The animal(s) that a Therian identifies as

Otherkin-A being who identifies as a nonhuman creature/being that is "not real".(can be used as a umbrella term)

Kintype-The entity/thing/creature that you kin

Fictionkin-A being who identifies as a fictional character/species(can be used as a umbrella term)

Synpath-Ancharacter/creature/being which someone has a strong empathetic connection to OR identifies with but not as

C'Link- when a being voluntarily identifies as a fictional character(or thing/species) as a coping mechanism

Quoiian-a term to describe nonhuman individuals who have a confusing experience with their identity and if it's involuntary or voluntary.

Quoitype-Refers to what a Quoiian may identify as.

Fictionquoi-Refers to a Quoiian who identifies as a fictional character or species.

Aniquoi-Refers to a Quoiian who identifies as an animal.

Mythquoi-Refers to a Quoiian who identifies as a mythical creature.

Holothere-A self-identifier term for individuals who are physically and fundamentally nonhuman in every way.(find the carrd here)(also a thanks to @batsbolts-andfangs for reblogging this post with the link <3 it helped alot!)

Othervauge-*no definition yet*

[dinocanid]

This is something I used to be able to do a long time ago and lost the ability miserably. I'm just extremely uncoordinated metaphysically right now, so I've been practicing regularly but atm can't even astral project anymore.

It sucks and not sure if I count since it's not something I can currently do, but just wanted to chime in to say I have had that experience.

I've been sitting on this for a while; and I've decided to risk it.

Are there any other bilocators/astral projectors in the alterhuman community? Because I've avoided both this and the otherkin community due to the fact that, through the astral, I do live a full life as my full self. I'm not trapped here, I don't particularly relate to many therian posts (they're valid I just don't have the same feelings and am making that clear), but at the same time ... I am incredibly myself, my behavior on both planes is impacted by my actual instincts and biological rhythms, and there's not much of a place to discuss this anywhere.

...am I as alone as I feel?

#dino rambles #why is astral projection so hard now holy shit

[dinocanid]

Genuinely have to thank you for enlightening me on sheath packers. I didn't know anyone had made any like it, and when I saw that it can be used pre and post-op, I legitimately started to cry with joy

Thank you thank you thank you!!! Have a rockin day!

Thank you!!

I was ecstatic when I discovered they exist too, I need one desperately now lmao

#dino answers

[dinocanid]

Personally my gender isn't really bound to nonhuman identity that tightly, but some of what gives me gender euphoria as a transgender person is influenced by my otherkinity. Like, I don't want a regular human-shaped packer. I have one but I don't really use it anymore because it just doesn't match my bodymap. Sheath packers do exist though, which I'd love to try. I also want top surgery, but afterwards I'd probably buy 1-2 pairs of prosthetic nipples to stick onto my torso.

#dino rambles #alterhuman #otherkin

[dinocanid]

Not sure if you were responding to both of us or just paracosmic-gt, but technically that is what it'd be. I don't use shifting terms though since they don't make sense for my experience, I just say I have a nonhuman bodymap or somesuch

I have the most trouble manifesting phantom limbs and other sensations that I have no idea how it comes so easily to other alterhumans. Like I've had no success with guided meditations or anything.

My ears, tail, etc. are on my mind almost 24/7, 365 already, but feeling them is the struggle

[dinocanid]

I have the most trouble manifesting phantom limbs and other sensations that I have no idea how it comes so easily to other alterhumans. Like I've had no success with guided meditations or anything.

My ears, tail, etc. are on my mind almost 24/7, 365 already, but feeling them is the struggle

#alterhuman #dino rambles #otherkin

[dinocanid]

(None of my following response is for the OP)

Hey, clearly you're venting, but I'd recommend venting on your own blog versus coming on OP's post to do so. Nobody else is out here in the notes making a huge fuss, it's not how you engage with people.

But that aside, no part of your post is the point of my response, so I'll explain it. Objectively speaking, the quality of a discussion made for an entire audience (and not one specific person) is not measured by how useful it was that one person. It's not an outlandish take that someone knows themselves more than anyone else will know them. If someone wants to hear about their own experiences, that's something they have to do, someone else can't read their mind.

They don't have to make a panel, that's not what I meant, but even writing down what you're experiencing is in and of itself a resource. Personal blurbs or short rambly essays are resources. A personal journal or diary up for others to read is a resource. Lots of resources in the community are inspired by other resources or if people are asking about a topic and there is a gap in the resources available. If there's something that someone can't make themselves, then there are plenty of people who may be able to talk about their own personal that may or may not be similar to the experiences of the one originally searching if asked. Like mentioned in another reply I made, there are plenty of adults willing to discuss how their identity affects their adult lives, but it's often so integrated or "go with the flow" that they don't think about it (at least not on a daily basis) unless prompted. And that's not the case for everyone, some aren't well-integrated and it possibly causes conflict in their lives, this is important to discuss. But you don't start that conversation by tearing down the work of other people because it wasn't what you wanted.

And sure, a specific panel wasn't named, but a subject was given and that narrows the pool quite a lot. I think this is all somehow being misinterpreted as "you're not allowed to dislike a panel", you can dislike what you dislike. There's a difference between "I don't like this, it just isn't for me" and "this is useless garbage". The world doesn't revolve around one person, that's not the guage that things are measured by. I don't like grilled cheese sandwiches, it doesn't matter who makes it or where I get it from, I don't like them even if tons of people sing the praises about how it's the best thing ever. That doesn't mean that grilled cheese sandwiches are a garbage food, or that the store is bad at what they do, because clearly people like them, and the world doesn't revolve around me. It's not a bad dish, it's not for me.

And, for what it's worth, the world is full of people. Somehow my first response was interpreted as being about me, I don't even make panels. There was a part that wondered if the event was taken seriously, and I responded that I do take it very seriously, but the entire rest of the response had nothing to do with me. I don't get anything out of anything honestly, I just know that the world is full of people.

I prefer not to have reblog chains too long on my blog, so that's all the input I have on this thread, but my DMs are open to anyone if yall (or anyone really) want to discuss further. I'm a chill person, I'm not all "grrrr bark bark bark", that's not how I talk to others

Sorry for being so inactive lately... been busy irl, and have been meaning to post here more often, but also, like... I always feel a bit shy approaching the 'kin communities on here because it kind of feels like everyone is sort of... "internet poisoned"? For lack of a possibly-better word. A lot of folks here on tumblr in the 'kin and alterhuman communities are children, and a lot of more prominent community figures treated like "elders" are only about my age or younger, and it feels really strange, to be honest. There's a lot of discussion of feelings and terminology, but very little "lifestyle"? It's like there's a universal expectation for everyone to just figure everything out on their own; you get some definitions here and there yeah, but the amount of variance says much more loudly "just figure out what it all means on your own, pal". ex. Not only can no one actually explain what "otherhearted" actually means sans relation to otherkin, but it feels like I never see anyone talk about dealing with what one could call "kin feels" in the workplace, when unable to acquire your habitat, etc... Othercon is online-only, and while I'm pretty sure I'd be unable to attend an in-person event, part of me has a hard time feeling like everyone is really taking it all seriously and is really unafraid of being "cringe" when obviously it's so much easier to act like you're so confident online. I kinda feel like meeting some wolfkin stereotypes in a park for snacks and doing a group howl would do more for me than years of reading essays on tumblr ever has.

I dunno, I tried watching a recording of an Othercon panel I felt would be relevant and useful to me once, and was floored at just how... utterly useless it was. Despite its promising title, it was just shallow "you're valid" garbage and internet discourse... Makes me feel severely alienated, to be honest.

#discourse corner #new blog tag so ppl can hide this stuff if they want

[dinocanid]

I understand your frustration with not finding many adults in the otherkin community, but there are three main reasons for this usually:

- Hanging out in spaces adults frequent. Be in spaces kids frequent, and you'll find mainly kids rather than adults

- Adults have very busy lives often times, and probably don't have time to blog day in and day out.

- Lots of experiences are often not new to adults, so they don't write about them

As an example, I'm an adult, I only know mainly other adults in the otherkin (and larger alterhuman) community. I don't post about a very significant chunk of my otherkin experiences because it's completely integrated into my life. It's not because I aged out of being otherkin, it's just 2nd nature, I don't think about. If I feel like a wolf every day then I'm much less likely to write about it than someone where this is all new to them and they're working through things for the first time. This is the case for a ton of adult blogs on tumblr and why posts inevitably taper off as time wears off. If you talk about the same thing for several years in a row, what do you have to talk about? But their identity and life doesn't vaporize the moment they log off of tumblr.

I love to talk about my experiences, but if someone doesn't ask first about something specific then chances of me mentioning anything specific unprompted is next to zero.

Sorry for being so inactive lately... been busy irl, and have been meaning to post here more often, but also, like... I always feel a bit shy approaching the 'kin communities on here because it kind of feels like everyone is sort of... "internet poisoned"? For lack of a possibly-better word. A lot of folks here on tumblr in the 'kin and alterhuman communities are children, and a lot of more prominent community figures treated like "elders" are only about my age or younger, and it feels really strange, to be honest. There's a lot of discussion of feelings and terminology, but very little "lifestyle"? It's like there's a universal expectation for everyone to just figure everything out on their own; you get some definitions here and there yeah, but the amount of variance says much more loudly "just figure out what it all means on your own, pal". ex. Not only can no one actually explain what "otherhearted" actually means sans relation to otherkin, but it feels like I never see anyone talk about dealing with what one could call "kin feels" in the workplace, when unable to acquire your habitat, etc... Othercon is online-only, and while I'm pretty sure I'd be unable to attend an in-person event, part of me has a hard time feeling like everyone is really taking it all seriously and is really unafraid of being "cringe" when obviously it's so much easier to act like you're so confident online. I kinda feel like meeting some wolfkin stereotypes in a park for snacks and doing a group howl would do more for me than years of reading essays on tumblr ever has.

I dunno, I tried watching a recording of an Othercon panel I felt would be relevant and useful to me once, and was floored at just how... utterly useless it was. Despite its promising title, it was just shallow "you're valid" garbage and internet discourse... Makes me feel severely alienated, to be honest.

[dinocanid]

Main organizer of Othercon here. If you want to see more information or guides that are specific to your situation then I recommend...making those things. Be the change you want to see in the world and all that. It feels unnecessarily harsh and disrespectful to the panelist(s) to call someone's panel "utterly useless garbage" because it wasn't helpful to you personally. It's no fault of theirs and moreso just the unfortunate fact that it wasn't for you. If someone's panel wants to uplift others and encourage them to write about their experiences then sure, why not, go ahead. We're not gonna stop them "for not being serious enough" whatever that may mean, the alterhuman community loves to write and blog and document, it's how a lot of people express themselves.

The event itself is a huge annual project for me, it helps bring people together every year and help them learn new things and share experiences, and I take it very seriously. It's been the biggest thing I've had to manage for the past 4-5 years.

The reality of organizing a convention though is that panels only exist if someone submits them. Myself and I'm sure a ton of others would love to see a panel about dealing with otherkinity in adult life and the impact that has on several things, but no one has submitted a panel for that before, so it doesn't exist yet. Until then...circling back to point one. Be the change you want to see in the world.

Sorry for being so inactive lately... been busy irl, and have been meaning to post here more often, but also, like... I always feel a bit shy approaching the 'kin communities on here because it kind of feels like everyone is sort of... "internet poisoned"? For lack of a possibly-better word. A lot of folks here on tumblr in the 'kin and alterhuman communities are children, and a lot of more prominent community figures treated like "elders" are only about my age or younger, and it feels really strange, to be honest. There's a lot of discussion of feelings and terminology, but very little "lifestyle"? It's like there's a universal expectation for everyone to just figure everything out on their own; you get some definitions here and there yeah, but the amount of variance says much more loudly "just figure out what it all means on your own, pal". ex. Not only can no one actually explain what "otherhearted" actually means sans relation to otherkin, but it feels like I never see anyone talk about dealing with what one could call "kin feels" in the workplace, when unable to acquire your habitat, etc... Othercon is online-only, and while I'm pretty sure I'd be unable to attend an in-person event, part of me has a hard time feeling like everyone is really taking it all seriously and is really unafraid of being "cringe" when obviously it's so much easier to act like you're so confident online. I kinda feel like meeting some wolfkin stereotypes in a park for snacks and doing a group howl would do more for me than years of reading essays on tumblr ever has.

I dunno, I tried watching a recording of an Othercon panel I felt would be relevant and useful to me once, and was floored at just how... utterly useless it was. Despite its promising title, it was just shallow "you're valid" garbage and internet discourse... Makes me feel severely alienated, to be honest.

#dino rambles

[dinocanid]

I feel like people forget a similar thing used to be done with "tumblrkin", which led to otherkin on tumblr being equated as less legitimate wholesale. I'm not really a fan of dividing a community by a whole platform, just be specific with the problems instead

Can we knock it off with the “Tiktok therians!” talk. And any other talk that separates the therian community by what platform they use.

Yes, therians on tiktok can often be fed misinformation and then spread said misinformation.

Yes, it is frustrating to see that. I understand.

But when we talk about this part of the community like some foreign group, and not just other therians, it feels like we’re separating the community even more.

Mocking a part of the therian community for being put in a place where misinformation is rampant doesn’t solve the issue. It just makes them less willing to listen to us, less open to correction.

[dinocanid]

You might benefit from this post I made:

Do any other polytherians find it hard to keep balance between your theriotypes? Like for me once I awakened my maned wolf theriotype I started drowning out my fox theriotype and mainly focusing on my maned wolf type.

I don't know. Could just be me but this is something deeply distressing for my little creature mind.

[dinocanid]

That'd be me in our system!

anyone who's a system also have a nonhuman host who happens to be an OC? wanna see how many beings out there are like me :3

[dinocanid]

Yall can I be real for a second, and this is untagged because it's not towards any one person in particular it's just something I've noticed

I know it's not everybody but why do so many UT/DR fictionfolk in the alterhuman community and beyond often have such rancid takes, if I had a nickel for every time I would have so many nickels, it's embarrassing please--

Some of us are chill I promise oml