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First Rosh Hashanah as an actual Jew hehehehehehehehehehehehehehe
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It's amazing to me just how good the Mormon church has been at hiding just how bad they really are from public view. Even the shit that gets spread around is the relatively harmless bullshit. They had a crazy prophet with magic glasses. They believe in god-mandated polygyny. They think everyone who is good enough will get their very own planet after the world ends. They wear magic underpants. Mormon men are all paladins.
Here's one of the ones you hear less often:
See, like many other Christian sects, the Mormons really do believe that the existence of Christ obviates the existence of Judaism. Judaism was just a placeholder until the "real" church could be established by Jesus.
And the Mormons in particular believe, dead ass, that the entire inheritance of Israel has been given to them, because the Jews failed to recognize the Messiah when he was on Earth. They really do. They have this whole system where people are given a "divine revelation" about which of the Tribes of Israel they're a member of (don't worry, they decided that most people belong to the two tribes that are willing to "adopt" people. Only the most specialest boys and girls are members of the original ten).
Let's sum up so far. The Mormons believe that they are the people of Israel, chosen and protected by God. If Jews want to get back in on that party, they can always repent and convert to Mormonism, the one true church to which God gave all the rights and blessings that were originally bestowed on Abraham's house.
But it doesn't stop there!
The Mormons also believe, in all seriousness, that all Indigenous peoples of the Americas are descended from a small group of Jewish people who left just before the fall of Jerusalem (~600 bc iirc). Their entire weird-ass extra bible is a chronicle of those people's history in [unspecific part of America]. At the very beginning of the book, two brothers in the original family turn away from god, so they and all their descendants are cursed with dark skin, so that the good Nephites (who remain "white and delightsome") will always be able to tell themselves apart from the wicked Lamanites.
So, you've got supposedly Jewish people running around the Americas. And the "good" ones are white, and the "bad" ones are brown. Then, ofc, Jesus comes to visit them (I guess supposedly that's part of what he was doing during his dirt nap? Or possibly after he left again, it's not clear), and they all convert to Christianity, which they think is clearly the natural evolution of Judaism. Well, at the end of the book, all of them become wicked, in a kind of weird pseudo-apocalyptic series of events. They are all cursed with dark skin, until such time as they repent for their ancestors sins and return to the gospel.
But of course, Mormons being the good and kind people they are, they want everyone to receive the blessings of God and be brought into the houses of Israel etc etc. And it isn't the fault of those poor little Indigenous children that their distant ancestors turned away from God and became wicked.
So what's the natural answer? Well, Mormons are real big on missionary work, as we all know. But apparently that wasn't enough in this case.
Because the Mormon church has been one of the big players in abducting as many Indigenous children as possible, in order to indoctrinate them into being good Mormons, so that they can turn white again and be blessed. My mother remembers hearing talks about this in the 70s and 80s. The church literally had a "Lamanite Adoption Program," where families in the church were encouraged to get as many Indigenous children as possible away from their families and not let them be reunited until they were fully assimilated and ready to go back and proselytize about how wonderful the church is.
The church leadership literally talked about how wonderful it was to see these children becoming whiter. Actually whiter. Like, saying that when they finally saw them with their families again, it was beautiful how much paler they were.
I'm pretty sure this program has been officially ended, but it doesn't take a genius to speculate about who might be behind the curtains on the movement in the western US to gut the ICWA....
So yeah. Next time someone tries to tell you that the Mormons are just harmless weirdos, please remember that they're an antisemitic cult that advocates for the forced assimilation of Indigenous children to help them escape the cursed brown skin of their ancestors.
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btw you can’t hate “organized religion” without hating the people who they originated with. you cannot hate judaism without hating jews. you cannot hate islam without hating muslims. you cannot hate buddhism without hating buddhists. you cannot hate sikhi without hating sikhs. you cannot hate minority religions without hating the minorities who practice them or whose culture is tied to them. so if you tell me “i don’t hate jews I just hate organized religion” all i hear is “i hate jews i just know it’s not politically correct to say that and i need a way to give myself plausible deniability.”
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hi um im on anon for now but
basically im an agnostic (?) queer person who was raised in a lds family and ive been reading a lot about the fucked up stuff that actually goes on. as someone who has almost no support circle outside the church, i would love to know if there are any online resources i can get to learn more about the hidden aspects of the church and possibly connect with other ex lds members for help (i heard theres a subreddit?) because frankly im fuckin terrified right now
thank you so much in advance!
Hi! Sorry for the late response I'm admittedly not on here very much anymore. the CES letter is a really classic place to start. I also used to love the podcast No man knows my herstory. I admittedly don't really hang around many exmormon groups anymore due to some annoyances I have with antitheistic approaches to life so I'm not really sure of a great jumping off point anymore for finding community. You're also more then welcome to message me if you ever want to talk about anything I realized I didn't believe in Mormonism anymore when I was 14 (in about 2016-2017) and am almost 21 now and have been living separate from my family for almost three years so I have quite a bit of experience both in actively living with your Mormon family as well as when your not and navigating that and am always happy to talk. It's really fucking terrifying at first ❤️
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Just an update, the vet appointment was today luckily between the $100 I got from here (thank you so so so so so much to the people who helped) what I was able to get doordashing and some other stuff I was just barely able to cover the bill today (plus one of them didn't need any vaccines or anything so he was significantly significantly cheaper)
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Here are the kitties for anyone wondering. Babka is the orange cat in the two pics with just one orange cat Challah is the orange cat in the pic with him and the tuxedo cat. The tuxedo cat is Juicebox and the black cat is Jojo (yes after JoJo's bizarre adventure)
Thank you so much for those who helped and or shared I really appreciate it
God I absolutely loath making this post but I'm pretty fucking desperate right now. A bit of background I have had a large amount of credit card debt for the last few months due to suddenly having to move 4 months after moving into my last place because it flooded and the only way I could afford the fees for the new place were by using my credit card. I am disabled and am barely scraping by paycheck to paycheck.
Yesterday (Wednesday) two of my cats had a vet appointment. It ended up being over double ($820) what I thought it was going to be due to the different vaccines and such that they needed. I had to completely drain what little I had left in my savings for trying to go back to school next year in order to pay off enough of my credit card just to be able to have enough left till I hit my limit that the transaction would be approved.
The problem comes in that my other two cats have their vet appointment this upcoming Wednesday. Its pribably going to be about the same cost and I no longer have any savings left to burn in order to try and be able to pay this, I have $23 left in my bank account I'm not getting paid until the 23rd and that entire paycheck has to go towards rent. I'm desperately trying to doordash as much as I can despite being in the middle of a pretty bad fatigue flare but there's only so much I can do an I don't think it'll be enough.
Please if anyone can help at all or just share this post I would appreciate it so much I'm freaking the fuck out.
My Venmo is @phantom-mice
And my Cash app is $3000mice
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God I absolutely loath making this post but I'm pretty fucking desperate right now. A bit of background I have had a large amount of credit card debt for the last few months due to suddenly having to move 4 months after moving into my last place because it flooded and the only way I could afford the fees for the new place were by using my credit card. I am disabled and am barely scraping by paycheck to paycheck.
Yesterday (Wednesday) two of my cats had a vet appointment. It ended up being over double ($820) what I thought it was going to be due to the different vaccines and such that they needed. I had to completely drain what little I had left in my savings for trying to go back to school next year in order to pay off enough of my credit card just to be able to have enough left till I hit my limit that the transaction would be approved.
The problem comes in that my other two cats have their vet appointment this upcoming Wednesday. Its pribably going to be about the same cost and I no longer have any savings left to burn in order to try and be able to pay this, I have $23 left in my bank account I'm not getting paid until the 23rd and that entire paycheck has to go towards rent. I'm desperately trying to doordash as much as I can despite being in the middle of a pretty bad fatigue flare but there's only so much I can do an I don't think it'll be enough.
Please if anyone can help at all or just share this post I would appreciate it so much I'm freaking the fuck out.
My Venmo is @phantom-mice
And my Cash app is $3000mice
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God I absolutely loath making this post but I'm pretty fucking desperate right now. A bit of background I have had a large amount of credit card debt for the last few months due to suddenly having to move 4 months after moving into my last place because it flooded and the only way I could afford the fees for the new place were by using my credit card. I am disabled and am barely scraping by paycheck to paycheck.
Yesterday (Wednesday) two of my cats had a vet appointment. It ended up being over double ($820) what I thought it was going to be due to the different vaccines and such that they needed. I had to completely drain what little I had left in my savings for trying to go back to school next year in order to pay off enough of my credit card just to be able to have enough left till I hit my limit that the transaction would be approved.
The problem comes in that my other two cats have their vet appointment this upcoming Wednesday. Its pribably going to be about the same cost and I no longer have any savings left to burn in order to try and be able to pay this, I have $23 left in my bank account I'm not getting paid until the 23rd and that entire paycheck has to go towards rent. I'm desperately trying to doordash as much as I can despite being in the middle of a pretty bad fatigue flare but there's only so much I can do an I don't think it'll be enough.
Please if anyone can help at all or just share this post I would appreciate it so much I'm freaking the fuck out.
My Venmo is @phantom-mice
And my Cash app is $3000mice
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God I absolutely loath making this post but I'm pretty fucking desperate right now. A bit of background I have had a large amount of credit card debt for the last few months due to suddenly having to move 4 months after moving into my last place because it flooded and the only way I could afford the fees for the new place were by using my credit card. I am disabled and am barely scraping by paycheck to paycheck.
Yesterday (Wednesday) two of my cats had a vet appointment. It ended up being over double ($820) what I thought it was going to be due to the different vaccines and such that they needed. I had to completely drain what little I had left in my savings for trying to go back to school next year in order to pay off enough of my credit card just to be able to have enough left till I hit my limit that the transaction would be approved.
The problem comes in that my other two cats have their vet appointment this upcoming Wednesday. Its pribably going to be about the same cost and I no longer have any savings left to burn in order to try and be able to pay this, I have $23 left in my bank account I'm not getting paid until the 23rd and that entire paycheck has to go towards rent. I'm desperately trying to doordash as much as I can despite being in the middle of a pretty bad fatigue flare but there's only so much I can do an I don't think it'll be enough.
Please if anyone can help at all or just share this post I would appreciate it so much I'm freaking the fuck out.
My Venmo is @phantom-mice
And my Cash app is $3000mice
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To further this point I was just showing my girlfriend one of my old posts on my phone and one of our 4 cats came up to me and tried to head butt my phone out of my hand in an attempt for pets. Life really does get better
Sometimes people like my old posts and it just reminds me how far I've come. I don't use this account often any more but I'm 20 year old now, I live with my girlfriend who I plan on marrying one day, I've been converting to Judaism and I absolutely adore it, honestly I barely even think about or remember Mormonism exists anymore, I was angry for a long time and that's so valid and such a necessary stage to go through but at this point I just don't even find Mormonism worthy of my anger any more. Life is hard and I struggle a lot but it is infinitly better then what it was.
I know it can feel so suffocating being a queer teenager stuck in your parents house. I know Mormonism feels so hard to escape and is so infuriating and traumatizing (I've been diagnosed with PTSD in part from Mormonism). But having lived this myself I promise you it really really really does get better and it is so worth it to get to the point where you're living a happy queer life and the only time Mormonism really comes up anymore is when you want to shock people with how fucked up the shit you grew up with is.
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Sometimes people like my old posts and it just reminds me how far I've come. I don't use this account often any more but I'm 20 year old now, I live with my girlfriend who I plan on marrying one day, I've been converting to Judaism and I absolutely adore it, honestly I barely even think about or remember Mormonism exists anymore, I was angry for a long time and that's so valid and such a necessary stage to go through but at this point I just don't even find Mormonism worthy of my anger any more. Life is hard and I struggle a lot but it is infinitly better then what it was.
I know it can feel so suffocating being a queer teenager stuck in your parents house. I know Mormonism feels so hard to escape and is so infuriating and traumatizing (I've been diagnosed with PTSD in part from Mormonism). But having lived this myself I promise you it really really really does get better and it is so worth it to get to the point where you're living a happy queer life and the only time Mormonism really comes up anymore is when you want to shock people with how fucked up the shit you grew up with is.
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Sometimes people like my old posts and it just reminds me how far I've come. I don't use this account often any more but I'm 20 year old now, I live with my girlfriend who I plan on marrying one day, I've been converting to Judaism and I absolutely adore it, honestly I barely even think about or remember Mormonism exists anymore, I was angry for a long time and that's so valid and such a necessary stage to go through but at this point I just don't even find Mormonism worthy of my anger any more. Life is hard and I struggle a lot but it is infinitly better then what it was.
I know it can feel so suffocating being a queer teenager stuck in your parents house. I know Mormonism feels so hard to escape and is so infuriating and traumatizing (I've been diagnosed with PTSD in part from Mormonism). But having lived this myself I promise you it really really really does get better and it is so worth it to get to the point where you're living a happy queer life and the only time Mormonism really comes up anymore is when you want to shock people with how fucked up the shit you grew up with is.
YW and Excellence was like two weeks ago and as the bishop was talking to us he said this bullshit “You young women are special because you guys actually have character unlike everyone else”
those were not his exact words but the basic meaning was the most women do not have any character but we do and I was ready to fucking throw hands
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Hi! I'm an ex-mormon, but I hear a lot about it being a cult. Obviously, if it is a cult, I'm probably not going to be the best judge of that (being born into a mormon family and raised within and surrounded by the religion); in addition, I'd like to preface this with the fact that I am open to the idea that it's a cult, I'm just trying to wrap my head around it since my understanding of both cults and mormonism is probably not very accurate. I read the BITE model on a post earlier (I don't remember whose it was) and the lds church lines up pretty much completely with the B.
Anyways, most of that is just context.
My main question is, can you explain to me the concept, or direct me to a decent, in-depth explanation of how the lds church qualifies as a cult?
I'm not asking you to justify anything, I believe that this perspective is justified. I just want to understand better.
Have a great day, and happy new year!
Hi! I'm so sorry in that I myself can not give you an indepth explanation due to just lack of energy. That being said!!! the podcast no man knows my herstory has a really really really great few episodes outlining the BITE model and how the church fits into it. On top of that this checklist also does a really great job at outlining everything. If you have any other questions feel free to DM me or send another anon or something!
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Just popping on here to say. If you’re just nor leaving the church or recently left or really left at all and have not taken the time to evaluate how your mindset about the church might be affecting your perception of other religions specifically non-christian religions. I know how hard it is to realize that it is possible for religion to be completely different from Christianity but it is. there is no such thing as Judeo-Christian values or beliefs that is not a thing any time people say judeo-christian they just mean christian. Don't be antisemitic or islamophobic.
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Wow I've only posted like two or three times in the last six months, god how times have changed.
This still holds true although I'm not super active on this account anymore I still am on Tumblr, if anyone needs someone to talk to I'm here
I'm really not paying attention to General Conference, but if anyone needs someone to talk to this weekend I'm here
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so i might be stepping out of line making this post but i feel it needs to be made so yolo i guess.
i know a lot of millenials have a sort of knee-jerk negative reaction towards abrahamic religions (really mostly christianity and judaism) and i understand. really, i get it. my dad is a pastor, and he used his religon to abuse, demean, and control me at every opportunity. he regularly tells my sisters that he’s “so sad im going to hell” and other sundry passive aggressive nonsense, so trust me i get it. i understand how a certain religion can be triggering to someone.
but there is a very important point here, and i really hope you understand this.
you cannot let it make you prejudiced, and, let me be clear here, im talking specifically about antisemitism.
i know exactly whats going on in your head, because for a long time it was what was going on in my head. you hear the word “judaism” and you have flashbacks to sunday school and the old testament and all the times you sat in a church and felt personally attacked, and you associate that with judaism and jewish people because most of the things that upset you were in the old testament. 
you can have your triggers, but you can’t let those triggers become an excuse to further marginalize a minority thats already attacked from literally every position of power there is. every major religion has leaders who are antisemitic, every country has a history of marginalizing jewish people, every person on the planet grows up in an inherently antisemitic world and has to unlearn that sort of toxic mindset.
and maybe this post should have been made by a jewish person, or somebody with more education on the subject than me but i think its really important that people don’t let their personal experiences with organized religion turn them into the kind of prejudiced person that hurt them in the first place. 
as a romni i have a shared tragedy with jewish people, so i feel like it was easier for me to step back and be like “woah, your thought process here is super toxic and you need to stop” but i feel like a lot of white christian-raised people don’t really have that touchstone and need somebody to be like “wake up, what you are doing is wrong”
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