Dionysus is known for being a god of wine, but he is also a god of vegetation. Something that always struck my interest ever since I read about it on the infamous theoi.com is that Dionysus is a god of fruit. I’ve applied this aspect of his in worship well. However, this aspect tends to be neglected in many Dionysian circles that I am in, therefore I’ve made this post to supply free knowledge.
Firstly, there is Dionysus’ association with the fig. A marginal fruit, who’s seeds look like testicles, also ties in with his phallic imagery. His association with the fig is due to him being called the one who discovered the fruit itself. For this reason he bares the epithets ‘Sykites’ (of the fig) and ‘Meilikhios’ (gentle); for figs are mild fruit and therefore ‘meilikha’ (mild fruit):
Athenaeus, Deipnosophistae 3. 78a (trans. Gullick) (Greek rhetorician C2nd to 3rd A.D.) :
“Sosibos the Lakedaimonian, by way of proving that the fig-tree is a discovery of Dionysos, says that for that reason the Lakedaimonians even worship Dionysos Sykites (of the Fig). And the Naxians, according to Andriskos and again Aglaosthenes, record that Dionysos is called Meilikhios (Gentle) because he bestowed the fruit of the fig. For this reason, also, among the Naxians the face of the god called Dionysos Bakkheos is made of the vine, whereas that of Dionysos Meilikhios is of fig-wood. For, they say, figs are called meilikha (mild fruit).”
His association with various fruits is not limited to figs, however. He is also said to have discovered apples too and various other fruits:
Athenaeus, Deipnosophistae 3. 82d :
“That Dionysos is also the discoverer of the apple is attested by Theokritos of Syrakousa [poet C3rdB.C.], in words something like these : ‘Storing the apples of Dionysos in the folds at my bosom, and wearing on my head white poplar, sacred bough of Herakles.’ And Neoptolemos the Parian, in the Dionysiad, records on his own authority that apples as well as all other fruits were discovered by Dionysos.”
This all parallels his discovery of wine itself. By being the one to discover these fruits, it places him in a unique role of bringing forth fruit to mankind.
Gods and Heroes: Dionysus states that the ancient Greeks regarded Dionysus as the master of any kind of ‘liquid’ growth, including fruits and flowers. As Pindar states, ‘May joyful Dionysos swell the fruit of the trees, the pure light of harvest.’ He is also shown as being associated with the personified seasons (Horai). Baskets of fruit also appear in dionysiac art. Sometimes, in such Dionysiac art Dionysus is brought fruit as offerings,
In Oedipus at Colonus he is given the epithet ‘rich in fruit’. Another example is depicted on a 6th century Attic red figure amphora from the Athens national museum (VS 318). It shows two female figures bringing offerings of wine and fruits to a mask of Dionysus in a basket.
The Orphic hymns, as syncretic as they are, invoke him in relation to fruit multiple times throughout his many hymns. Especially in the act of bringing forth fruit to those reading the hymn. One example is the Orphic Hymn to Dionysos Lysios – Lenaios:
‘Λυσίου Ληναίου.’ Κλῦθι, μάκαρ, Διὸς υἷ ̓, ἐπιλήνιε Βάκχε, διμάτωρ, σπέρμα πολύμνη〈σ〉τον, πολυώνυμε, λύσιε δαῖμον,
κρυψίγονον μακάρων ἱερὸν θάλος, εὔιε Βάκχε,
εὐτραφές, εὔκαρπε, πολυγηθέα καρπὸν ἀέξων,
ῥηξίχθων, ληναῖε, μεγασθενές, αἰολόμορφε, παυσίπονον θνητοῖσι φανεὶς ἄκος, ἱερὸν ἄνθος χάρμα βροτοῖς φιλάλυπον, ἐπάφιε, καλλιέθειρε, λύσιε, θυρσομανές, βρόμι ̓, εὔιε, πᾶσιν ἐύφρων, οἷς ἐθέλεις θνητῶν ἠδ ̓ ἀθανάτων † ἐπιφαύσκων νῦν σε καλῶ μύσταισι μολεῖν ἡδύν, φερέκαρπον.
To Lysios – Lenaios
Hear, O blessed son of Zeus and of two mothers, Bacchos of the vintage, unforgettable seed, many-named and redeeming demon,
holy offspring of the gods born in secrecy, reveling Bacchos,
plump giver of the many joys of fruits which grow well.
Mighty and many-shaped god, from the earth you burst forth to reach the wine-press and there become a remedy for man’s pain, O sacred blossom!
A sorrow-hating joy to mortals, O lovely-haired Epaphian,
you are a redeemer and a reveler whose thyrsus drives to frenzy
and who is kind-hearted to all, gods and mortals, who see his light. I call upon you now to come, a sweet bringer of fruit.
Dionysus is a god of not only wine, but fruit and vegetation. His fruit aspects perfectly align with his agricultural-viticulture aspects. It also aligns with his role as a god of vegetation. He is strongly associated with figs and apples in particular, as he is credited with discovering them. This parallels his discovery of wine; therefore making him a god of fruit, too. There are many more examples of Dionysus as a god of fruit (and vegetation) than this, but these are the ones I have decided to highlight.
Application in worship
As a god of fruit, fruits become great offerings to him. As I love to make juice, my fruit juice is a standard of my worship of Dionysus. This also extends to fruit offerings and fruit juice. If you grow fruit yourself, you can dedicate the first fruits of the harvest to Dionysus.
Growing fruit, visiting and helping orchards, etc. can all be devotional acts to him too. Fruity wines (or simply just juices for those who cannot or wish not to drink) are also excellent offerings. Fruit-based iconography can be put onto shrines and altars too. Dionysus’ fruit aspects open up a whole new world of worship and you get to decide how to incorporate it into your practice.
Athanassakis, A. N., & Wolkow, B. M. (2013). The Orphic Hymns (First Printing ed.). Johns Hopkins University Press.
Redefining Dionysos (Mythoseikonpoiesis) (2013-06-30). (2020). Walter de Gruyter & Co.
Seaford, R. (2006). Dionysos (Gods and Heroes of the Ancient World) (1st ed.). Routledge.
DIONYSUS - Greek God of Wine & Festivity. (2017). Theoi Greek Mythology. https://www.theoi.com/Olympios/Dionysos.html
Hellenic pagans, recon or revivalist, need to ask the theoi more if they are enjoying our rituals and offerings.
Both because this was historically a big part of ancient Greek religion, and also because otherwise your worship could be for naught.
I think this is a very important point to be brought!
The Theoi can always guide us to improving our rituals and offerings, and divination comes at hand on these situations.
Hermes Agoraios, Hermes of the market-place, is another aspect to this very complex god. This designates him as the god and protector of the marketplace.
This aspect within itself it complex — as he even had an oracle. This oracle was a poor man’s oracle while Apollon’s at Delphi was the most famous and richest oracle. This is the fundamental difference between Hermes Agoraios’ oracle and Apollon’s oracle. Hermes presided over the poor man’s oracles. Those who couldn’t afford to go to a major oracle and supply sacrifices relied on Hermes.
Oracles in Ancient Greece
Oracles in Ancient Greece were location specific. It was the location that lead to the power and communicative power of the oracle; not just the god or dead themselves. Only in Delphi can there be the oracle of Delphi. Such as the slaying of python, there were myths that told of how this oracular place was discovered. This is what separates the oracle from the diviner — oracles must be in a specific location that is good for oracular activity.
The sanctuary of Apollon within Didyma claimed that the sacred grove in the temple area was the one in which Apollo had met and fallen in love with Branchus. Branchus, who proceeded to later served as the Oracle’s first ever prophet. This is only one of many cases of not only place being important, but mythology being important to the Ancient Religion.
Oracular shrines were also extremely good sources of money. In the Homeric Hymn to Apollon, the first Delphic priests ask Apollon how they will make a living. Apollon replies that if each of them stands with a sacrificial knife in their right hand, theu will have plenty of meat to fill their stomach. This refers to how each visitor would sacrifice a goat before consulting Apollon and his oracle. The priests received a choice cut of meat, which kept the priests well fed. The hides of the animals were also sold as a means to produce money for the oracular shrines.
The oracle of Hermes Agoraios
This oracle of Hermes was a poor man’s oracle, nothing like the Pythia. Within the market square at Phares stood a statue Hermes Agoraios. This shrine faced a hearth and was surrounded with lamps. The consultant would go to the agora to oracle at dusk and burn incense on the hearth and light the lamps at the shrine. Then, they would place a coin on the altar. After having whispered the question in the god’s ear, the consultant covered their own ears to block out all sounds. Once out of the agora, they would unstop their ears and first phrases they heard were the phrases from the oracle. This is recorded by Pausinas, as stated here:
[7.22.2] The market-place of Pharae is of wide extent after the ancient fashion, and in the middle of it is an image of Hermes, made of stone and bearded. Standing right on the earth, it is of square shape, and of no great size. On it is an inscription, saying that it was dedicated by Simylus the Messenian. It is called Hermes of the Market, and by it is established an oracle. In front of the image is placed a hearth, which also is of stone, and to the hearth bronze lamps are fastened with lead.
[7.22.3] Coming at eventide, the inquirer of the god, having burnt incense upon the hearth, filled the lamps with oil and lighted them, puts on the altar on the right of the image a local coin, called a “copper,” and asks in the ear of the god the particular question he wishes to put to him. After that he stops his ears and leaves the marketplace. On coming outside he takes his hands from his ears, and whatever utterance he hears he considers oracular.
Adapting this oracle into the modern day
The biggest hurdle in reconstructing this oracle is that oracles, by their nature, are location based. Therefore, by the oracle’s nature it can only be placed within Phares. We could ask Hermes to guide us to another oracular spot within Greece, but even then it might not work out. He may refuse or we just wouldn’t be allowed to set up an oracle.
Even if we could, I imagine that we would have to have a priest or priestess manage the shrine. Which is a completely different hurdle within itself as we as a community don’t know how priesthood will work within the context of the modern day. Along with the fact that many don’t know how priestess historically worked — so reconstruction or revival is a daunting task.
Overall while I love this oracle, I don’t think as of now — especially in the year of 2020 — that it can be brought into the modern era. It will have to remain a thing of a past, for now.
HERMES - Greek God of Herds & Trade, Herald of the Gods. (2017). Theoi Greek Mythology. https://www.theoi.com/Olympios/Hermes.html
PAUSANIAS, DESCRIPTION OF GREECE 7.17-27 - Theoi Classical Texts Library. (2017). Theoi Greek Mythology. https://www.theoi.com/Text/Pausanias7B.html
Johnston, S. I. (2008). Ancient Greek Divination (1st ed.). Wiley-Blackwell.
Larson, J. (2007). Ancient Greek Cults (1st ed.). Routledge.
I should wake up early tomorrow but I needed to find an epithet and spent half an hour searching for it (did not find it) and then I found hymns and somehow got hooked and I still have to wake up early what am I doing.
I’ve been collecting resources to aid in teaching yourself ancient greek for about a year now, and here they all are!
Where to Start:
- List of places to start
- How to guide
- Intro to the language
- Info about dialects
- Info on learning homeric greek
- Lexicity, has tons more links and helpful guides
- Pronunciation (Youtube)
- Google drive with TONS of textbooks, mythology/culture books, and reference guides
- Companion site to Mastronarde’s textbook
- Mastronarde textbook answer key
- Companion site to the Teach Yourself book series
- First Greek Book textbook download link
- Learn to Read Greek textbook
- Companion site to Athenaze
- A First Greek Course
- First Greek Grammar Accidence
- Greek Grammar
- Smyth’s Greek Grammar
Grammar, Guides and Practice:
- Grammar info
- Grammar review
- Vocab and grammar drills online
- Worksheets on conjugations and declensions
- Pronunciation guide
- Parts of The Odyssey read aloud in ancient greek
- Parts of The Iliad read aloud in ancient greek + Another
- The whole Iliad in ancient greek
- Dictionary and texts
- Trojan War dates
- Some books of the iliad
- Some books of the odyssey
- Sappho original text
- General info about Sappho
- Ancient greek music reconstruction and info
- Specifics^: Music and theory
- More music info
- Accents and other help (Youtube)
*Updated as of Jan. 9, 2016
today’s psa: If someone claims to be an oracle, the Pythia, the chosen one, a literal god, a nymph, etc. Fucking run. That person is legitimately dangerous.
I was tricked into an online cult once and it was awful. Do not make the mistake of thinking that it’s harmless.
some lesser known things Apollo relates to/has been called:
- he has been called ‘the helper in distress’
- connected to this, ‘lord of feeling, lord of sensations’. not only does he feel openly and all, he is also master of his feelings. (he has helped me getting my emotions under control a lot so…)
- people would call upon him to ask for a safe return home - also he who conducts men on board of a ship.
- he was also known as he who blesses those who embark on journeys.
- guardian of the streets and roadways.
- founder cities and towns, also the protector of meeting halls or public places.
- nurturer of children
- he who brings joy, and another favorite, he who rules with sweetness (:
- he who blesses those who farm and pasture. will address him with ‘howdy’ and ‘cowboy’ from now on.
- “he who wields a golden sword”, he’s not just an archer.
- he who fills our souls with bliss
- Patír, meaning father, though you can go for daddy these days
- the fact he is the god of music is well-known, but keep in mind this also means he’s good at singing
- not only sing, but dance too. Some Renaissance ballet theaters have statues of him on their buildings because of this.
- the wanderer
- the unshorn—his hair was never cut or shorn (so do make art of rapunzel apollo please), representing his forever youth.
- both dragon-slayer and mouse-killer
- of boundaries. (don’t know about you but that makes a lot of sense to me.)
- he makes everything bloom.
- connected to this he was also seen as increasing fertility, sometimes adressed as ‘of semen’. Do with that what you like.
- ‘producing animals’
- friendly, amicable, affectionate.
- swift, patronage of the races
- he who holds together the world
Having been a hellenic polytheist for several years has completely changed my way of considering the year. Because the Attic calendar’s New Year typically falls somewhere in July/August, I naturally consider the first Dionysian event of the year to be the Oschophoria, which I celebrated last month.
I’ve often seen people be surprised by the statement that Dionysus is a winter god. In turn, their surprise surprises me because I honestly can’t imagine it otherwise at this point. Since the season has just started, I thought it would be an ideal moment to explain this a bit further.
The first logical overlap with the ritual calendar is with the wine cycle. The earliest festival of the year, the Oschophoria, tends to fall around the end of October, thus fitting nicely with the end of the grape harvest and the beginning of the wine making process. And at the end of the cycle, we find the Anthesteria in late February/early March where the new wine is officially opened, mixed and offered. I agree with the theory that City Dionysia placed in spring, and which marks the last festival of the Dionysian year, is meant to be the final act before and coincides with the preparation of the new harvest and the emergence of the vine’s first blossoms. the other festivals in between those two steps line up with different steps of the wine-making process.
I do not think it is a coincidence that all the Dionysian festivals fall at a time where the wine is actively being made and/or undergoing the fermentation process. It would make sense to concentrate devotion at this time to guarantee the quality of the new wine.
Dionysus of Delphi
When Apollo departs from Delphi for his yearly travel to the Hyperboreans, it is Dionysus who replaces him at the temple.
A small parenthesis, as I feel like this is one of the things that confuse people a lot, so I just want to give some insight about the whole thing before moving on to Dionysus: Delphi was also an astronomical center. There is recent research linking the departure of Apollo and the arrival of Dionysus in Delphi with the yearly movement of the stars as seen from Delphi. If this theory is right, this would explain how the divinatory timing was organized in Delphi. All in all, Apollo being gone is supposed to impact divination and oracle activity, not personal worship.
End of parenthesis, back to Dionysus. In Delphi more than anywhere else, Dionysus not Apollo’s contrary. They complement eachother nicely. In Delphi, singing the dithyramb would mark the beginning of winter. On a cultic level, Dionysus’ winter presence relates to his birth and reawakening through the biennial rite of the Thyiades. Quite little is known of this celebrations (and the other delphic festivals to Dionysus in general) but we know that once every two years, female worshippers would climb up to the Corycian cave on Mount Parnassus to celebrate the awakening of the Dionysus Liknetes, that is, the child Dionysus asleep in his the liknon (winnowing basket).
All this to say that Dionysus is the winter god par excellence. He thrives during this season and keeps us warm with his many holidays.
Anghelina C., The Drunken World of Dionysos, in: Trends in Classics, 2017
Dietrich C. B. , Divine Madness and Conflict at Delphi,in: Kernos, 1992
Dionysus loves his worshippers. He loves his followers.
He loves you if you are hypersexual. He loves you if you’re asexual. He loves you if you’re sex repulsed. He loves you if you’re anything in between.
He loves you if you are a struggling alcoholic. He loves you if you’ve conquered your addiction. He loves you if you are neither, and drink only in moderation.
He loves you if you’re an actor. If you’re a husband. A wife. Spouse. A son. Daughter. Child. He loves you no matter what you are, and will welcome you, no matter what. Dionysus is here to protect you. To wrap an arm around you and tell you it’s alright. To tell you he is proud of you for how far you’ve come, to celebrate with you, no matter what form that takes.
For him, wine is an offering he loves, but he’ll take grape juice all the same. He loves both equally. He always will.
Your worship is valid, and Dionysus loves you.
Hi, friend. I have a question for you, if that is okay! How the heck do i get better at researching?? I get too caught up and overwhelmed when I try, tbh. I really want to learn more about the gods so I can work with them! Thanks, dear!!
Hello, hon! If you find yourself getting overwhelmed while researching (i’ve been there!) it might be because you’re trying to do too much or forcing yourself to do/read things that aren’t vibing with you. So here are some suggestions
- Take Your Time: This isn’t school and it isn’t a race meaning you don’t need to rush yourself. There are no deadlines or due dates so just go at a pace that works best for you. If that means only a few pages a day then hey awesome you just read a few more pages! Go you! You dont need to force yourself to read more than your brain can handle and honestly you’re likely not to absorb any of that information anyway. So take breaks often and stop completely when you feel like it
- Read What Interests You: Again this isn’t school so you don’t have to force yourself to read dry and boring texts that just don’t grab you. Yes I complain a lot about the academic texts but thankfully they all aren’t like that so you’re bound to find texts that aren’t painful to read. Also again because you are in control of your own research you don’t need to read a text cover to cover. Feel free to jump around to the parts you’re actually interested in.
- Try to Keep Focus On One Topic: Okay this is where I get SUPER overwhelmed while researching! I’ll be reading about one topic and the author will mention something else or I’ll notice something on the internet while browsing and my brain goes “Ohhh lets look into that!” and that continuously happens causing me to jump around a lot. What i’ve been trying to do now is have a place where I jot down other topics or interests I’d like to research but then tell myself that for now I’m focusing on this specific topic.I also started doing this with books where I actually pick out like 3 books and say these are the books I’m reading and when I finish them I can move on to another 3 books. It just kind of gives me some structure so I don’t wander off my leash lol!
- Figure Out What’s Blocking You: So while I did list some potential reasons for why you’re feeling overwhelmed they may not be related to your specific reason. I know for awhile my unmanaged perfectionism was getting in the way of my research as well as my social media addiction (it still kind of does but I’m working on it!) So there could be some underlying reason you find yourself struggling with research and I encourage you to think about it!
Guess who just went to the library and picked up a copy of The Iliad! Not sure when I’ll actually get to work on it though, as I have a super thick fantasy book underway but maybe the two will balance each other out now that I am on a reading streak.
But the thing is, even though it is a translation in my mother tongue and in that sense a lot easier to understand than an English one, it’s still super odd language. Like how do you people read this?!
In the folk poetry shelf (I don’t know what else I should call it) there was also a book that combined both The Iliad and The Odyssey as well as more info on the background on the Trojan war and it was translated into a more modern language and it honestly looked the best out of all of them. The translator/author did however say it doesn’t include all of The Iliad and because my original goal was to read it first, I went with the difficult one.
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Pillars of Hellenismos
As there is not a large, agreed upon set of pillars in Hellenic Polytheism, I will be using ones I am going to start using, based off my own research. A common theme from each pillar is the avoidance of *hubris*, which is excessive pride and the belief that you are better or equal to the Gods. (This is quite possibly the only “sin” in all of Hellenic Polytheism, as a lot of the stories against mortals in Hellenic myths deal with mortals with *hubris*.)
Arete - living to your fullest potential
Arete, meaning “excellence” or “valor”, is the belief that one should live up to the fullest potential of yourself. When one lives up to their fullest potential, and not comparing yourself to others, it is aimed to bring happiness to the individual. It is also about putting things in your own hands, and not being a bystander, watching life go by. It is such a core part of Hellenic ethics that almost every philosophical and religious work about ethics contains it.
Ethike Arete - live an ethical life
Ethike Arete, meaning “moral virtue” or “character virtue”, is the belief that one should follow ethics and an ethical life, and the word from the Gods. This is usually in relation to follow the Delphic Maxims, 147 maxims given to oracles of Delphi, said to be given by Apollo himself.
Eusebia - piety and love to the Gods
Eusebia, meaning “pious”, is the belief that one should have respect towards the Gods and praise and honor them, via festivals, prayers, sacrifice, and devotion. It also relates to knowing *why* you should be doing the ritual and how it helps the Gods.
Hagneia - purity before the Gods
Hagneia, meaning “cleanliness”, is the belief that in the presence of the Gods, one should be clean. This is related to the concept of miasma, meaning “pollution” but not akin to sin, and removing it before praying to the Gods, as not doing is so is considered highly disrespectful.
Kharis - giving to the Gods and our relationship with Them
Kharis, meaning “grace”, is the belief that one should always give to the Gods but do not expect things in return, but if something is given in return, be thankful for it. In Hellenic Polytheism, when you ask a God for something, you *always* leave an offering. You give so that They can bless you with something in return, but do not expect them to. It can also mean the relationship between the Gods and us, with many saying it is like how much trust a God has with you. If you have good kharis with a God, They will be more inclined to fulfill your request, as they can trust you. But, if your kharis is low, They probably won’t trust you due to thinking you won’t do anything with it.
Nomos Arkhaios - being as close to the original religion as possible
Nomos Arkhaios, meaning “ancient ways”, is the belief that the religion should not change that much over the time. It is the belief that even when governments and society changes, the religion will always remain the same and gives a sense of structure and belief. This is probably the biggest difference between reconstructionism and revivalism.
Sophia - pursuit of wisdom
Sophia, meaning “wisdom”, is the belief that in order to not offend the Gods, you should always be trying to learn and understand more. This is to help get rid of an ignorant mindset and better prepare yourself before the Gods.
Sophrosyne - having self-control
Sophrosyne, meaning “temperance”, is the belief that you should do things in moderation. It is also the belief that one must moderate yourself so you do not cross the other pillars and become inflicted with hubris.
Xenia - hospitality
Xenia, meaning “hospitality”, is the biggest pillar here. It is the belief that one should always help someone out and treat them as a friend in the house, even if they are a complete foreigner. Many myths have the Gods punishing mortals for the lack of xenia.
(I hope y’all enjoy this! I’ve been thinking about making a Guide to Hellenismos series?)
I just want to raise awareness that these pillars aren’t from Hellenismos, they’re made up by Timothy Jay Alexander, who is an outspoken homophobe. They aren’t inherently a part of Hellenismos at all, and TJA certainly never practices them. Hellenismos as it existed didn’t have some kind of proto-Ten-Commandments, nor did it have a central, organized dogma – worship style, even the Olympians were regional.
I agree with @hellenic-reconstructionism and appreciate OP’s disclaimer at the beginning, so I’d like to add a few comments regarding this list (which I’ve seen pop up on my dash a few times now):
My main problem with this list (aside from it’s creator and it’s proto-Ten-Commandments feel) is the gate-keepy things in it especially in reference to the low-spoony community:
1) Hagneia: “purity before the gods” - people with depression, executive dysfunction and other things that’ll keep you from being cleanly, will find this step especially hard since the times you need the gods the most is not when you’re having a good day and can manage to take a bath or shower. Also the idea of sinning changes depending on the god and region so it just sounds like needless barriers that will keep people away from actually connecting with their gods.
When’s the best time to contact the gods? When you NEED to (even the desire to want to connect stems from the feeling of needing to connect.)
Nomos Arkhaios - “being as close to the original religion as possible” - Which religion? What’s the definition of the religion? Which version of the religion? Ancient Greece didn’t have a set religion for the whole region. Each Polis had it’s own cult (not the same definition in how we mean “cult” today).This shouldn’t be a “rule” it should be a potential option for those who want to experience what the ancient greeks did but I often see reconstructionists add anything and everything found in ancient Greek text regarding worship and this wasn’t how it was done back then because one is essentially mixing Athenian cult with corinthian or Spartan cult which is all very different.Can you mix ancient traditions? If it’s part of your belief system, go ahead but this is my point: I’m majoring in Classical studies with a focus on the ancient Greek religion not because I’m a reconstructionist but because I’m a revivalist and want to see how to best modify and apply the ancient methods to modern times but that’s because it’s part of my beliefs.If you wish to be a reconstructionist that’s 💯 okay! If you wish to be a revivalist that’s 💯 okay! Should revivalist study as much as reconstructionists in order to worship the gods? It has personally enriched my own beliefs and relationship with the gods as well as helped me differentiate them from the Roman gods so research will definitely benefit your beliefs but you do not have to recreate it if it’s not something you feel compelled to do.
These are the 2 main ones I had issues with but as OP said these are just suggestions.
If something doesn’t work well for you and your relationship with the gods go ahead and leave it behind, these suggestions can get you started but just like how Ancient Greece had no Bible, the religion varied from polis to polis.
Today, different sectors of reconstructionists and revivalists (like the ancient greeks) have one thing in common: They all honor the GODS.
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tl;dr: i am buying a home so me and my partner can escape a transphobic and abusive household before january 1st, when we will be kicked out officially. i need help with the upfront costs, as well as paying off debts, buying appliances, and general household items to get started.
hi! its me again! ur favorite disabled trans man who despite it all got approved for a mortgage and is buying a house at 23!
my last two posts have died out so this is my third, hopefully final, remake of this post! so far everything is going good with the mortgage, the underwriter approved my loan and i’m just waiting for some insurance survey before i can start closing! this is the final stretch!
unfortunately, i had a bit of bad luck with my paycheck today. 2 weeks ago, i took a week of pto to celebrate my anniversary with my partner. i put this vacation in my schedule over 3 months ago so the pto would be approved. somehow, at least this is how hr explained it to me, the website never updated my pto balance, and showed that i has 40 hours of pto left when i only had 8. absolutely nothing can be done, i tried everything. as a result, this paycheck was short about $480.
recently i had to pay for the inspection and the escrow deposit, which took the $2,000 i had saved. now i’m missing almost $500 on top of that, which like, moving is expensive and i really need that cushion!
my last donation post got me $130, so i guess that puts me at $130/ $2500 to help me replenish the little savings i had and make up for my missing paycheck. that also leaves nothing for moving costs and household necessities.
please, reblog and donate if you can! it would help us out so much! my partner @scolipede also does commissions, that helps us as well! dm me for any questions!
paypal.me/swampert (uncheck goods and services please!)
heyy i just realized its #TransDayofRememberance, please reblog this to get 3 trans people into a loving and safe home before the holidays 💕
nov. 20th, 2020:
$283/ $2500 !!!
nov. 22nd, 2020
thank you all so much!!!! :D
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