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gatobob · 23 days
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Genuinely curious because I'm still seeing stuff, but why are people still discussing this as if Melon and Gato were not doing/saying awful shit? " if there's really racism " Melon literally admitted to making racist comments. And Gato defended them. There's no minimizing this. Racism isn't something to be played off as something unimportant and inconsequential. Idgaf if the community is full of dark themes, I really don't. But I do give a fuck when people are acting like literal racism is some trivial thing. Do not downplay or try to justify what happened. They hurt a real living person's feelings. Stop leaving that out of the discussions. Gato and Melon were in the wrong, period.
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gatobob · 23 days
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Hey, just responding to this to clarify: when @/renhanasgf was discussing how Gato treated her characters that are POC (people of color), they meant how they treat the characters lore wise. For example, her darker skinned characters seem to have little information in comparison to the lighter skinned ones- this could be due to bad writing, but.. it's still very odd regardless. And it was also mentioned that Gato has gotten mad when people asked her stuff regarding having more representation in her games. Her getting upset over a question like that is exactly the kind of stuff that makes her look bad. And personally, I don't like the excuse that because some of the characters are criminals, they don't have real names. It could definitely be headcanoned that they don't have names to hide their identity, but let's be real: this is not the case, Gato just does not care enough to think of actual names for her characters. (Like you mentioned, Gato stated that Strade was not his real name and was a placeholder name, and still to this day. Which can only make one think that she just isn't giving it much thought- and I beg to differ in characters names not being important to their stories.) As for the white characters also lacking in real names or last names, that just screams lazy writing. Perhaps it's the same for her POC characters, but I personally think this topic is not as important as what happened between Gato, Melon, and the victim. I'd prefer it if people gave more attention to the real things that have affected real people. (This includes the nazi drawing she made, because regardless of whether or not it was years ago, it's incredibly tone deaf and insensitive and people are in fact bothered by the drawing)
Another yapping session with Beta yipeee!
nah in all seriousness i would like to talk about some things, now that my temper is gone.
we still remember the post on twt made by @/renhanasgf about Gato not being more inclusive, oorrrr that her poc character are ignored. (i wont talk about the real stuff from discord in this post since proofs are still gathered.)
well here i am! (sadly)
1.How many poc characters?
7 well known (or maybe more). who are those? well we'll start with Raven(tinr) or known as Selin as well, Chet Ichpujani(tinr/tpof), Strade(btd/tpof), Thomas(tpof), Jaqueline(tpof), Machete(tpof) and fucking Derek(tpof)
some of them dont have a full name (besides an alias) either because story wise it didnt mattered or because of their lore (Strade and Machete are criminals, doubt they would want a victim that escaped to expose their identity, no?) Also another detail, even some white characters do not have a last name,such as Sid(tinr), Dragon/Jace(tpof), Komodo/Mike(tpof), Chamomile(tpof), Richard(tpof) and probably some from 'Facility'.
their ethnicities are indeed unknown, either because it wouldnt really affect their story or it was avoided in case it could cause a conflict. dunno. about this i cant really talk a lot since her blogs are gone, thus i cannot dig into this matter anymore. although i believe having a hc on them is fine. ''- It is 100% okay to have ANY headcanons about my character!''-her website)
Raven was one of the well know character from Gato that is poc. her nationality is unknown due to the story (which i would recommend you to read tinr, pretty cool tbh). since her story goes deeper i would suggest you to also read her wiki (fanmade). sadly lots of stuff are now gone about her. still a lover character.
Strade. Strade is Strade. (kind of forgot what she said in the answer about his name but the wiki says ''Strade is not his actual birth name. It's similar to a placeholder name like John Doe. His birth name is unknown." still you can check out more here)
Chet Ichpujani is another character involved in tinr, a manager (i believe) at a semi-restaurant thing? in the end he offers to help Farz with his problem. pretty cool guy since he and Anthony Shore re-appeared in tpof. (picture below)
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Machete, ''Machete is the newest member of the desert group. He had to prove himself worthy by performing various criminal tasks to be allowed in. Despite his recent acceptance, the rest of the group remain wary of him. His quiet demeanor and decisive actions tend to unsettle the other members. He regrets everything he's done to be admitted into the group, but he chose to stop at nothing to get revenge for his sister. He feels as though he's completely lost his identity and humanity to his "purpose"." -wiki (also a small detail, he did everything to revenge his sister)
Tom/Thomas, ''Tom is a college student, taking a media development course centered around sound design. He took a few years off high school, kind of meandering through life without an aim for a while. However, he eventually found a passion for making music. Despite tons of research and hard work, he was never really able to get his brand off the ground, so he decided to head to college to get some formal education on the subject. Late one night, as he was about to head home, he was abducted by Komodo and Dragon.'' -wiki
Jaqueline, "Jaqueline is a young trades worker learning to paint houses. She takes pride in her work and also frequently goes to the gym. Her mother pesters her to get a higher education, but she loves her current career path. Due to the friction with her family over her job, she tends to choose to spend time with friends instead. She was violently abducted by Jack in broad daylight, unlucky to have no witnesses." -wiki
therefore, there's plenty of information, plus that lost from her blogs.
2.Model minority
must agree, her work from 2016 looked alike yet, in the last years she actually showed more bodies (like types)
here are some examples:
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also Strade's new model as well:
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quite diverse, is it not? i am aware i didnt show others as well but if you wish to (and i actually encourage to) you can view the rest here! Lawrence, Ren, Celia (or on pinterest!)
3. Conclusion
i still believe everyone can create whatever they wish, whatever character. the details are on their part. now i could understand Gato for being upset when someone doesnt draw their character as they are (such as changing the body type, skin colour, etc) but also cant blame those who feel like being ignored (trust me, had to survive the genshin fandom).
so the characters exist, thus i dont see the problem of not being inclusive (also, as she often said, you can hc her characters, thus i believe their ethnicities are free to chose for yourself)
that's it. as for the real deal (the discord stuff) i believe it's the best more proofs come. rn i dont see her as a racist artist, but that comment in spanish does sound in fact xenophobic... well, until more context is posted, we'll see
stay safe!
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gatobob · 23 days
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Now for my response to the apology from Melon: I'm glad they gave a better apology, it's definitely better than their previous ones, those of which seemed to lack in sincerity and just.. was short and rushed. Obviously it is not my apology to accept (And the victim HAS accepted the apology, so do not go after anyone.), but I'm certainly glad that a much improved apology was given to the person affected. (I've talked to them as well privately.)
As for Gato, I'm still waiting to hear what she has to say. (Melon may have apologized, but Gato still hasn't.) Speaking of, Melon apologizing and acknowledging the racism only confirms that Gato was, in fact, defending racism. So nobody here can deny that.
I'm not telling anyone to attack Gato or literally anyone else in this situation. I don't even hate Gato. But Gato still needs to be held accountable, she still had a hand in this. Lashing out at the victim, telling them that they were slinging around accusations, and deleting her (vague) apology after people told her not to be vague in the apology is absolutely disgusting- And being completely honest, if she does apologize, I really don't think she should come back. Or at least not interact with the community as much as she has- that may be upsetting to hear, but the parasocial relationship the community has with her is genuinely concerning. Like, if you're willing to threaten/harass people over someone they like being called out on their bad behavior, how much farther are you willing to go? If that's the influence she has on her fans, she needs to stay away from them, or vice versa. Gato is 35 years old, an adult. Most of the people in this community are adults (at least I hope), they all need to act like it. People need to realize she is not as helpless as they believe her to be- trust me, I get having mental issues, but.. there is no reason to be babying her, especially when it comes to situations like this. Being unwell mentally is no excuse for defending racism and treating people like shit.
I'll say it once more, I did not and do not have bad intent with this account. Was taking her username on here a little much? Maybe, but it was to get people's attention.
This is all I'll say for now- I might add more if I think of anything else I want to say- I also may have worded things wrong, and I'm willing to elaborate on things if people have questions.
And I'm also willing to take down the post if the victim asks me to do so, but these are just my thoughts on the apology and stuff.
Have a good day/night.
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gatobob · 23 days
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Do not go after anyone in this screenshot, but-
I am perfectly fine hearing people's opinions, but most of the people that have tried "sharing their opinions" were either threatening me, or treating me as if I'm dumb and what I'm doing is wrong. Let me be clear: this account was strictly to spread awareness and shine light on the situation, as well as Gato's other behavior. I never said people can't enjoy the games, they can. I still like the games, but I'm separating the art from the artist.
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gatobob · 24 days
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And I'll say this now, because people have tried using this to argue: I myself am a person of color. So naturally I'm going to be bothered by the racism.😐
Anyways, I'll be posting in response to Melon's apology and stuff soon. Don't attack anyone involved. That was not the goal of any of this.
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gatobob · 24 days
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Not sure why people are acting as if I'm in the wrong and being crazy when Gato's defenders are saying stuff like this. Again, this behavior not only makes them look bad, but it makes Gato look bad too.
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gatobob · 24 days
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You people are way too comfortable saying this kind of weird shit to others. It isn't just this either, people are sending threats to me over this too. But I'm the weird one for helping spread awareness, right?
Threatening/sexually harassing others does not make you or the person you're defending look good whatsoever, and if you're that mad over someone being called out for their racist behavior then... I don't know what to tell you other than get help.
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gatobob · 24 days
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Different artstyle, you say?
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If my posts aren't clear enough or you think they are not detailed enough and need more context, there is a good thread discussing this:
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I've linked it before, and I'll link it as many times as I have to, the person that Gatobob and Melon treated horribly has commented on this thread as well (@/pussyspieler on twitter.)
And a note to anyone trying to debate:
I am not changing my opinion on Gatobob until she herself proves that she is not a terrible fucking person (instead of letting her fans try) and apologize, thank you.
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gatobob · 24 days
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Sorry that one was just funny
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gatobob · 24 days
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Thank you @bitterxlbitz and everyone who got me to 5 reblogs!
R slurrrr?? Not very wholesome of you
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gatobob · 25 days
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the witch you are looking for is not here. the witch you are looking for is melonba11s and melonreba11s.
they were the ones dropping racist comments like uma komptom dropped diss tracks.
Not uma 😭💀
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gatobob · 25 days
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some of u people are dumb as hell. writing explicit, violent, sexual, “problematic” content doesnt give u license to be a bad person in real hunan life where it impacts real human people.
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gatobob · 25 days
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If my posts aren't clear enough or you think they are not detailed enough and need more context, there is a good thread discussing this:
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I've linked it before, and I'll link it as many times as I have to, the person that Gatobob and Melon treated horribly has commented on this thread as well (@/pussyspieler on twitter.)
And a note to anyone trying to debate:
I am not changing my opinion on Gatobob until she herself proves that she is not a terrible fucking person (instead of letting her fans try) and apologize, thank you.
Edit: Melon has made an apology, do not go after them or anyone else involved.
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gatobob · 25 days
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honestly instead of using this as a callout account you should turn this into an actual tumblr
i’d turn the asks off though i can’t imagine all the pissing and shitting in there is healthy for your immune system
I'll consider it
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gatobob · 25 days
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R slurrrr?? Not very wholesome of you
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gatobob · 25 days
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Brb guys I'm hungry
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gatobob · 25 days
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we ride at dawn for m’lady
give back the precious handle you stole or we’ll send you super ultra mega pissbaby asks
😨
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