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Thanks a lot to the anon who sent this in from this podcast. It is an extremely long post, so be aware before you click the keep reading! I will try to fix this up a bit as I read through.
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Interviewer: In this week's episode of the Pazza Podcast, we have the long-awaited long interview with Elisabeth 'Beta' Gunnarsdottir, who after 15 years IKDFF is now probably leaving the OBOS Damallsvenskan.
Interviewer: It ranges both from the best memories to the football of the future and what she looks at when she scouts players so we throw well into it right away and meet Beth sitting on a breakfast table. Then we welcome Elisabet Beta Gunnarsdotter to the Pazza podcast. How is life as an ex-football coach?
EG: In December. It's good to have blue skies and wait for the sun while others plan their pre-seasons That is the difference.
Interviewer: Ex-football coach was perhaps also a little unfair. You are well you are you will work as a football coach next year.
EG/Interviewer?: Yes, I think so. We will come back to it. I think. I think the monk that when when you hear this, a week has passed since Rosengård's massacre in Barcelona. I think we can take it with beta cards and just bet it. Is it unfair to Rosengård to pull too big gears on cod with 13 zero bets, as well as Barcelona is terribly good. Absolutely in Barcelona good but 13 maybe feels a bit well a lot, but I saw them play here in Tenerife last Sunday also against a cancer a little less well.
EG/Interviewer?:Tenerife and I, when we sat watching the matches ended 2 0, I thought Rosengård could beat LAI every day of the week, but I think yes, I think you should be able to get better results against them, but they are damn good. They're damn good, that's right. Yes, but that's where I told Isak before we started too. It's hard to relate to that result. So, if I had, if I had been a coach, you don't want to go home with 0 13 regardless of how good the opposition is so that I I. I am somewhere in between, they are good, but as I said. It stings a lot of people. From many perspectives, I think there will be such a big difference. They also have one, it's not. It's not the best tjaselberg can put on the field either. You have to remember that. It was us in already when they met Barcelona in Malmö. FCR is quite a lot of injuries and they didn't have a full bench.
EG/Interviewer?:Even like they make two changes even though everyone is on their knees like that. It's clear that it's the wrong time, maybe for Rosengård it's possible to face Barcelona too but. And then so and then, so you had. Rosengård still moments in the match at Malmö IP where they could have scored 3 goals. Yes, Rosengård can take a well-deserved holiday, what the monk, and then they can take a new approach. There are 2 games in January for them. But then maybe we will also see a slightly healthier starting eleven and maybe one or 2 new acquisitions as well. But it's clear that the question marks will not diminish around FC Rosengård perhaps?
EG: No, above all, where are they going? But they can patch up and fix a bit here now and train with 1 full squad so maybe it will look more fun already in January.
Interviewer: Now. If we focus then on Beta 15 years are over now Kristianstad FC. We've been running into each other in recent years. It feels like you kind of face every new year. This at the end I felt OK, but one year to 1 year to 1 year what made it not a year until now?
EG: No, it just felt like it was over, so. That. I don't really know what to say, but it actually felt for a large part of the year like it was the last year. So when you feel so clearly then it's over.
Interviewer: Do you have anything to do with like the results this year or that you felt or experienced that you fell behind, perhaps especially Hammarby and Häcken?
EG: No, it has nothing to do with it? Absolutely not. I also think that the number 15 somehow. Been circulating in my head is over a year like this. Yes 15 years then. That's it.
Interviewer: That what, what do you take with you most? It is clear that 15 years feels like an incredibly long time to sum up. But if you are to take if you are to see the difference KDFF today twenty-twenty-three versus then KDFF 2008 2009 what is the biggest difference?
EG: No, but it's the size of the club. It's absolutely impossible to compare. It's like 2 completely different clubs. So it was small in the context, I can say, but I came to work, so. So meets I either none, or maybe one and and. I think I was the only full-time employee we could. No, we were probably 2, but today there are 8 of us and we work together every day and we have a youth activity down to bolilek from when we had nothing in 2009 so that.
Interviewer: There is so much that has changed. So how much, how much pride can you feel in having been involved in building it up?
EG: It's hard to take it in because you're in it so much all the time. I probably think that it's a bit like that and then I had. I did almost as many years in the election where I was actually part of the same journey in many ways from starting up one a many youth teams to you yes winning lots of titles. There. In the last few years, did you have a thought that you would e build a team that could take over like this in retrospect, it feels easier to see. We, like Isak, ask, it feels like you have been synonymous with KDFF, but the closer you get to the association, the more you notice that it is.
Interviewer:It's not exactly like that, but. Did you feel that kind of responsibility or did you have that kind of mission?
EG:Yes. I didn't have a mission from anyone other than myself, but it was something that I think I decided a few years ago that I would do it was to build a team around me to take over when I quit, so I'm crowing myself. It was responsible. Yes, I did. And got it too, so if someone had, someone could have told it. Yes, but you, this shouldn't. You do better. Someone could have said that, but that was enough no one we did but we all agreed that I can be the best person and sign those people in.
Interviewer: Where do you see KDFF going twenty twenty four?
EG:I think CDFF will be better than twenty twenty three so. Let's see?
Interviewer?:So better in terms of results or that we will be selected even better young players or that you play a different football right? How where is better like?
EG:I made some pretty big changes last summer when Evelyn left, so I know about. You can see those changes as clearly as an outsider as we did, so we changed the game quite a bit and and I know the comps showed that and all the signingss that have been made now are based on the reference that we. Had as a basis and we didn't lose a single match during the autumn, so I think there are really good things to build on and I don't think we have become.
EG?:But I also believe that there is a very good and sound thought behind the signings that are made both that are made of and those that will present exercise so so. I believe that if you succeed in building on this and then it will both be. Wider squad with maybe a little more healthy competition and then the results will be better, I think. I absolutely believe that they will mix in the top 3. That's what you should expect. No, but now I can throw out a lot .Expectations. So much language is it really? Top 7 would have been good if it had been. But what how long, how long do you think you will say we? I didn't even notice. No, exactly for me have you really stopped?
EG/Interviewer?:That was my question as well. First, did you have an email address left and then when you say we are here, yes, but the commitment is great for KDFFI everyone. Fall.
Interviewer?:In terms of football, what journey do you think you have made? Do you think you have made as a coach the here years? What has?
EG: Difficult to answer, but I can promise to of course reflect quite a lot on this particular question, especially when you sit in meetings with potential employers, so you should still sum up yourself a bit and talk about your philosophy and and and about your own CV and so on just to stay for 15 years there and. It hasn't won a title in the 15 years and so on so so then you reflect quite a lot like this. What was I there for too long? Was it right? What? What have I got out of this journey personally? Because I all know that the club has developed a lot, but what I've gotten out of it so and I can say that I land a lot in this that.
EG:So, I love continuity and I think continuity makes. Train better. I think continuity makes. Does it play better? Absolutely, and the first few years so so tactically I felt like I learned a hell of a lot. The Swedish series is very tactical and I watch a lot of women's football all over the world and I still think that the Swedish series is cancer, the most tactical series and you look over all the teams and matches every week and so on. Then you could leave cancer somewhere after 89 years and go somewhere else. And of course you could have, but then what do we know.
EG:Yes, the knock was a little there where it either you would or we would actually build it again so I actually think that my time in Kristianstads can be divided into 2 and then. I learned everything that has to do with the club what what? How do you build a football club? What is it that allows me to live on what I live on? And how important are the youth activities and important sponsors that are behind all this and how important are the people sitting in the stands? How important are the officials? All this I didn't have, I was only a coach before that, I'm not alone, but I can say in general that's how it was. I've gained an insight that I'm really grateful that I have got and I think got an experience here like magic then I said for years that I wouldn't take this percent license because I was like this.
EG:There were no requirements that one should have done and I just felt, but yes, can this. So that it was the stupidest thing I've heard. A person says so is applying for the pro education and then it just opened a new door and I think I was. A quarter of an hour away from missing the chance to keep up with this modern football to the old football. The new football is 2 different sports and I am grateful that or I am very happy with the decision that I chose to remain Kristianstad FC for a period where I would keep up with this modern football and and learn all these new things that have come to football and these new things are. Mainly linked to game building.
EG:All this flexibility to be able to flex between masses in terms of how, ie based on how opponents play everything with leadership, ie the importance of people feeling worse today than they did 15 years ago. And I have had the opportunity to test an incredible number of things, Kristianstad FC for which I would have been fired in other clubs. So yes, because of that, it must be one. You have sat in a position. Internal objectives, but perhaps not requirements in that way. It must have been a very nice working environment after tests and the last 5 years, we say with being able to do, test thoughts and test ideas and if it sucks, it sucks, but then you know it. But it doesn't affect so much otherwise.Likewise.
EG: And me, I know OK. I was overjoyed when I got an increase in the game budget last year by 500,000 when I was supposed to have 4.5 million (330k pounds) in the player budget, so I felt yes, now damn I have a budget. And, but that goes without saying. It's a very low budget and that you should succeed, that is, that you should be able to set a goal and win a series of 4.5 million games in a budget is also somewhere, you have to say that it may not be a reasonable goal, but I still think that it has been a fun goal to have to set the 2. The opposites together you must have a high goal and a low budget and. And we must succeed with that and that is what will always be.
EG: Problems when it's like that are injuries, so you you. You can't incur a lot of injuries when you have such a low budget as we compare with Arsenal and Jonas Eidevall who have had 8 key players injured, well then you just go out on the market and buy and the best players are 8 different teams. It's very simple and then you can. You can always, I've been saying for 10 years. Your money doesn't win titles, but money helps. That's how they use your player budget to buy Cooney-Cross and put her on the bench.
EG:No, but it's a bit like that. There is a difference and I have. I've discovered this too with discussions with potential employers. It's that you, you have to answer quite a lot for why you have selected. What was comfortable being for 15 years in a club? So I can. It was not comfortable. It has never been comfortable for what it's about.
Interviewer?: If but you beta that description of building club and the experiences you could you imagine a different mission than being a trainer?
EG?:Gray-haired and can't see well on the computer. Then I can. Me who can I say? But if we ask the question like this then which edition of KDFF do you feel that the hell? There we had the chance to do something even better.
EG:Twenty-twenty, it was completely crazy that we then. Then we are close, I can say, and we are. We are, after all, we cod against Linköping's last match where we are. We tried food that doesn't matter. That was it, it was a lesson there to never believe. Then Växjö goes down to Malmö and loses or beats Rosengård at home. And there we lose second place and we had castle Linköping and we had, I don't know. We had had a crazy season then, then we had entered the ICL as second place and missed this one. The first round and there I would have liked to rewind and do better, I can say.
Interviewer?:What was it that clicked in that edition? So what, what was it that made that team so good?
EG:Yes, that's a good question. We got new kids in, Hailie Mace from the USA. Two players who made us absolutely better, but now. Be enough flow when you get a team in flow, you can, you can take it quite far and like this last year also won 10 matchess in a row and it's a well-known moment. KDFF then chooses some players to go out on the club after the 10th in a row and I've probably never been so angry, I think the dressing room like the days after that and then the 11th match comes and there was a loss and then it was a tough one then there was a tough period there and I think that complacency is called well in English.
EG: What's that in Swedish?
Interviewer?: Yes complacency, like you said.
EG: Then it's so good to yes, but that we could use a momentum and be washed even longer. I think and then this will sound very strange but later this year so it's one of our best editions too, it's you who finish sixth even though we only lose 4 matches, we lose none. We haven't lost since June and I still think we had a reason to be able to finish much higher, but we have too many injuries this year like me. Of course take responsibility for myself and deeply regret that we couldn't prevent better, because I think we really could have finished top 3 and and often done better.
Interviewer: When you look at players because it's been a sign anyway, I don't know if you agree with the monk, but you've found finds that maybe not many others have found and done it. They've done very, very well at you Kristianstads, what do you look for in players like? What does your eye see that others don't?
EG:I don't know if I have such an eye, but before the pandemic, I never sign players without going there and meeting the player myself. I didn't go to Australia to meet her, in sign her but and that was it was maybe my worst signing too me. It's very important that the person fits in. The dressing room and this culture that we have built, I think it is important that you come into a dressing room where you are aware of high goals and winning culture. But on paper we are not the best and you cannot come in and bother about that. Players aren't as good as me, so I recruit Canada's Iceland players, so it can't have the requirements that you have 10 uppers around you, but you get to come in here and be the one. Who is still leading the group in training in the dressing room and and so on. So that's one thing after all. I probably have fairly clear principles, even if I can be very flexible when it comes to it. System or yes system, but very much so.
EG: If we have very clear principles, then I'm looking for, for example, so, we'll play a five-pack line, so. Then I want the central center back this morning and instinct has to have spike and instinct. Then that player doesn't have to be great with the ball. You can always hide players somewhere who are not good with the ball. And, but in the five, I have to have instinct and speed, and that's the only thing I look for and that's what I did as Jordan and the box was no name like who is she? And now we were extremely unlucky with her in terms of injuries, but she was healthy, so she was exactly the player we were looking for, absolutely perfect for us. A bit of the same example with Emma Petrovic. I think few would have thought yes, but Emma Petrovic one and 20 long. She probably shouldn't play central intrebackline, but it works if you're clear with the player. Like that's what she has.
Interviewer::But Beta won't be a way of working either, unless the budget is that big, you don't need to be more careful as your way of working then?
EG: I think I need to be more clear. Position demands on a player and we always yes always every player needs to focus on being able to play 2 positions at least so.
Interviewer: Which lap are you most proud of?
EG:Good question, Evelyn, am I absolutely top 3? Yes, it feels like a given answer. Yes, Lo Barns was also the best center back we've had in Kristianstads, because it was fun to be there now. Melina's gaps are then I put in the top 3. In my opinion, she is the best goalkeeper in the series, so she must be healthy young and will play for a big club in the future. Yes, I agree with us. But you if you think about it? You have more questions.
Interviewer:Continuity has been important to you, but you have also managed to keep large parts of your team, what what? How does that happen, do you think? If we were to ask the players, what do you think they will say then?
EG:No, I think they will. I actually got a book you know where they wrote a lot. So I have the answers. You just throw up in your own mouth when you talk about it.
Interviewer?:Wells or do you believe it?
EG:No, but it is. I think it's the culture that we've built. I think it's. Openness in communication. We're a gang that is. Example. So even one said to me. She said, well, you'll never get to 1 team where I can come to breakfast on mat day and so it doesn't matter if I sit with the head coach or the left-back, but we've never had a coach's table and a leader's table, but we we are us and those who come first breakfast sit together and and we have very open communication and. Take care of each other in a unique way, I think. And I, I also think like this. I always come here first before and I always leave the arena last, so me. I wait until the last players have gone home always, except if there is something that happens at home or something. And I do this because I want the players I book never such development meetings. That's what I was told the first 10 years. You have to book meetings 2 times a year with all players so I I can't have such meetings but it is ongoing, ongoing. They know that they can always come and talk to me before or FN training, that's all.
Interviewer?: I've had the privilege of going around so much in all the clubs and the one that really hits you is at Kristianstad's arena where it's maybe you shouldn't sit and reveal that. But we will reveal it in some TV program. There is then a hat and a wig and it's some wheel and that. It feels like this is how you are struck by the very culture you say if I should ask you the monk for you. You have also been for a long time, how much did you think about building it the culture in Eskilstuna? How do you build a culture like that as a leader?
EG: I don't think I was as good at building this. As Beta talking about me. I was also the first and left last, because I also want to be available. Like the whole thing. I don't think that it happens in development calls that are booked like 30 minutes, 10, 15. It's about catching, catching those reflexes and being really close to me. I wanted to build a training culture. I felt that was my most important goal. Now I wasn't me, I wasn't as long as I was Beta, so that it's clear I might have had time for other parts as well if I had stayed but but for me it's about building a good training culture, because it's the one that gives you, like, good performances or good football actions in the long term, so it's every single thing I was busy with I would say so. That that. It's not possible to compare the Beta to the Beta has done it over time in that way, but but I understand the principles of like this reasonably, like you have the chance to say what you feel and think then later I think that I decided at the beginning more and maybe less at the end, like that.
EG: It was a journey we needed to make, I thought at the time from the outside as well as leadership. But know, do you feel this way in hindsight that there is a danger or that you see this way? Yes, but maybe it was too. It was too. Please. Shall I probably never agree that it has been. Yeah, you don't have to, but it's. Very hard from the outside. To see it like. I really hear that from all the players that they love this balance between it being super serious and proxy to directly when we the corridors then it can be super calm and relaxed. So I think that I so I feel myself a little like schizophrenia, so coach it
Interviewer?: Do you share enough with many coaches?
EG: Yes exactly, we are if we choose this job we are like that, but I. Can can be 5 seconds between laughing to being moved like me this spring. Jordan Brewster had played basketball the night before she injured her thigh and pulled the back so and that was it. It was at a team activity like this and I had tried to stop her several times. But she had probably played basketball a little longer than I knew. So now she had tried to jump like Michael Jordan and you know several times and I just yes, now it's your own dance answer because you'll hurt yourself more fun this week and the next day they pull the back and it goes to hell and I can say this so me. And then I can go completely insane situations like this the faith and a whiteboard and threw at her so that it flew very close to the doctor's eye. A moment that has been. Brought up quite a few times I can say, and that. Is then was it more then a nightclub incident. Oh my God. This is for me only. It should never be able to even never. Never you are a professional athlete and that yes, no, that's how it is.
EG: But she learned a lesson there, I don't think she'll come and do stuff like that in the future and that's always positive. You managed to get something out. But. What do you mean graze for? was like this, but I knew it would be because this is what I had. I almost understood that it would be like this and then you didn't just leave now just go home. You understand, you don't drive anything extra, when you still saw the risk and didn't sort of act on it fully, then I could be who I was. I was almost as angry with myself sometimes as with my surroundings. I also think that it can be fun to run a little as well as shorter questions.
Interviewer: So the monk with Beta just answer spontaneously, you get, you get to break in this monk. It's as usual when we have a guest that you sit and think so much and then there's like no question. No, I know that, I have, of course. I have lots of follow-up questions, but is it better or you when you lead? But we have a question we had before we started, how old are you really Beta? E:Yes, but considering that it has been 15 years IKDF, and then be involved in building goods that exactly how it started in the election when you were 5 with like.
EG: I started when I was 16, so that, no, I am. 47 okay.
Interviewer: Which arena do you think is the most difficult to go to in the OBOS dDmallsvenskan? Which is the most fun to go to?
EG: Hammarby IP: Kanalplan.
Interviewer: You usually do quite well there too.
EG: Yes, it's fun to come there and lots of spectators and such.
Interviewer: Which coach have you had the biggest row with over the years?
Oh. Says the monk now. Stellan. The first years. The monk probably a few times? No, I don't really. I don't have much trouble with coaches. Jonas eats well and grows words, but surely Jonas is at press conferences? Absolutely.
The thing with you Beta was that it was a competition when you competed. Then there was respect before and after, so it wasn't easy to compete against you, I thought so. It was like the thing with you, I think. That's how I feel myself. I remember it was me like mine. It was my fourth match in 2018 we had, we come to KDF, we have 3 straight, just beat Rosengård and so we earned like this.
But damn we can hook up here at the top and then it will be your anti-football match. You wouldn't have watered of course. The plan or you said that after you said no, but it doesn't work. No, of course. You lead with 1 zero. We're chasing a criterion and then there's a poor little ball girl who doesn't throw the ball in fast enough so I scold her after notes and then you painted on me so I felt like a little boy. I feel like this. And then I realized that you were right, of course, so I had to apologize to this poor girl who started crying. So it worked out, but I can, we ran well only at each other 2 times, but then it was respectful, so it is.
Interviewer?: But beta, what do you think about American football?
EG:There was a lot of it. Something internal or not? But we got there once. Then there were 1000 lines on the field because then the American football team had a match the day before so that there was a line every five meters. So that it was. It wasn't. You weren't very proud of it in Kristianstad then. It was what it was. It was just to play, but as I said it looked half funny. So, but how big Is it a problem for you if we just get stuck there? So, because of that, the plan can be pretty messed up sometimes. It is unfortunate that the municipality has chosen to put a hybrid field that will be like 3 yes seniola and will play on. That is then it is men's football, that is us and then there is American football and. The American football club is fantastic, I can say, and that's what's a bit difficult because it hurts in May because I think it's a fantastic association that works hard for its existence and is ambitious and respectful of everything and everyone so I can't say anything negative about the club .
EG/Interviewer?:But it just doesn't fit, so it pours before it's Friday and they have to play and then we come in on a Sunday and the field is ruined. Isn't that good? No. We can say this, we won't ruin the field for them , we don't. No, that's the way it is?
Interviewer: Who is the best player you've seen in the Allsvenskan during these 15 years?
EG:It's like it's no talk, right? No no no talk like that. Marta, did you see? Marta how good then? So when she was good so was she. Excellent as well.
Interviewer?:Yes. I heard you at olof lund. I thought you were very good with the future and so on if we just start with the broad question, what what do you see?
EG:there's muttering and farting and fighting and we've been sitting here all autumn talking about things that can be done better and stuff like that.
EG:At the same time that Häcken goes out and takes 7 points in 4 games in a rather tough Champions League group.
Interviewer?: So, where do we stand, where do we stand, do you think?
EG: I think the series will get better and better if we look at the competition evenly matches. More even players in the squads even if we don't have the same profiles as we had 15 years ago, but then the series became much, much better so I. I think we will keep up with the development because we are better prepared for a lot of other leagues. Yes, so I think we should be proud of what we have built in Sweden and therefore, I am so happy that it is going this way good for the Hedge because I.
EG:It's been 5 or 6 years now that we can take several teams in England. We can take several teams in France, Spain, Italy and the majority of the Swedish teams are better than these teams. the wall as well. Now we're not going to do that and Häcken has. Exactly and then the national team also showed that. Except for the last time? make a longer contract with played under 20 when I'm over 20 I mean I played under 20 no problem, but that you should be able to wind down. Profiles that is, we will not sign in the biggest profiles in the world? Absolutely not, but more and more players are coming from from all countries all over the world so that we should be able to sign yes if I take for example such players as Vien, that you should be able to sign such a player for 3 years be able to develop the player II his environment to be able to sell or yes, achieve success.
EG: You have to sell too. That's probably the challenge. Like the younger generation or the generation that comes here.
Interviewer: Firstly, do you see any difference between them in terms of football and what needs to be done even better in order for us to achieve the next victory?
EG: No, but I think that younger players get better or they come up to the A team and are better than they were 15 years ago when they came up then I thought it was tactical too. Undeveloped. And you had to spend a lot of time on a for them to understand simple things in football. I think the younger players coming now are much, much more ready to come into one of those. But we need more who are like that, so I really think we can get more who are like that and then we have to start putting this money.
EG/Interviewer?:The investments II teams under an A team and it has been very aware of this.IQDSF so we started investing IF 19 17 but not only coaches but also how should we? How should we build, strengthen teams from below, how should what does that environment look like for those players? In terms of training, they would get the times when they. Now it is a problem in Stockholm from what I have understood. You can have the world's best academy, but you have not the time on plan for them so. But what do you really think about, like the physical challenge, like the physical demands of the match? What what? How do you see it?
On that one. Yes, there we are 100% behind. Then I don't know. What is it about then? So what do we train? Too little, we train incorrectly, we train too badly. You are not missing a physical profile in. Youth League II Sweden. I get the feeling that you have not focused on it and I think it is also a matter of resources , so there is definitely a problem with the Kristianstads regarding the youth law. But and we are aware of it. We are trying to do something about it. In slightly smaller steps so that it will be good in the long term, but it is also a matter of resources in Iceland, for example, so you are very aware that you take further if you have a good physique.
And actually you choose physics over technique or tactics, so it feels like there are physical trainers, every corner there. I don't feel that we can find that easily in Sweden. But you touched on that monk here in the last episode as well , and you have been around now for the whole year, is it so neglected and is it like, are financial resources needed or is there a lack of competent staff? No, but I think that when we made our first trip in Eskilstuna there, we were quite careful. Then there was a physical profile, that is, about what you should be able to do. Purely physiologically, everything from brutal bench to push ups to things like that was there something to go on and we did that together with the football high school in Eskilstuna and and and it also gave birth to a culture that as betas are aware that if you're going to leave here from Iceland, you don't have the physics, then it won't enough, so then you work with it so I think it's the easiest of these 4 things in a football action to influence.
EG: It's basic physics, but I think we should dare to be a little braver in saying that if you're actually going to be an elite player, when you're 14 you need to. You need to be able to run backwards or jump about this high. Yes, but. That like find some references that describe the requirements of the future because the risk is that people will only be disappointed later and I'm not talking about selection and I'm not talking about topping. I'm just talking about some reasonable feedback to actually get the chance to become who you might hope to become. But yes, so it's not that difficult.
Interviewer?: Do you find it difficult to Beta so it's a service? A sensitivity to talking about the body with young girls.
EG: Absolutely it has become. It has become more difficult what you could say things 10 years ago that you can't say now. It's also a social problem, simply with girls in or age 12 to 17 it. Where looks start to take over life, like that.
EG: It's a problem, it's absolutely a problem so it's getting harder and harder, but at the same time, perhaps you should start a little earlier, start somewhere around the age of ten. One phys a week now we start adding one, we say again here. Alexander Fridlund came to take over as football developer, Kristianstads FF now who was my assistant and. And I saw a schedule that he sent out last week so when they have added soccer practice. They put a flight training down to. I think it was 10, 10 or 12 and then that's where you have to follow. You need someone who still takes care. The schedule and follows up that all trainers do it because it is easy to bring in parents who are going to train a team number 10 and then they come in and see the responsibility as running football training and then that you have to have the requirements that they understand what a physical training should look like .
EG: They didn't knee control, it was like a tried and tested thing, you know? It was just rolled out because it was important and then everyone understood why it was important because you didn't want to get injured and what I think the pedagogy can be the same without talking I understand body ideal like this, if you do the plank for one minute, it's pretty good when you're 13 because then you'll be able to do 2 minutes. When you put 1.5, like that you have to feed that like the natural thing because the threshold just gets bigger and bigger the longer we wait, I'm thinking about if we're talking elite environments now and that's it, that's it which we are talking about. So, I think I think it is striking to seen WC 20, 19 until today, the 4 years that cycle as well that you see.
EG/Interviewer?: So, it was almost a bit of an eye opener that you see Delphine Cascarino in France. She looks like a 100 m sprinter, so I saw paraquel and live at Malmö IP. It's such a fucking physical monster and they like this. They see their body as a tool to be as good as possible at football, and I think that we are a bit like this. You see it in U23, that is, they are very good footballers, but they are different types of it. Physics as well. But I think so too. It also has to do with choosing the types you can choose. Barcelona can bring in exactly who they want so that. Is part of it, but but another part of it is that everyone can of course. Everyone can be physically good, not everyone can be. Technically, technically, no, everyone is, but that's a bit of the philosophy you had when you trained the Icelandic team. That's, I don't know, often in the week.
EG:I said it to my girls in the locker room that we were going to play the Champions League and I remember that we were going to meet. Hökstan and Potsdam were Champions league champions then and I told them so the first opposition now that we meet there. I know that we won't win on physics because we every week like this. We have to have physically better opponents, that is. We have no chance out in Europe, Potsdam will come and we play one one one one in half in the first game, that's it is quarterfinal in sel one one and I go to interview in half and only AV is so damn good, you know. We had cozied up a penalty that we could easily manage in the half and to finish 8, 1 to then. Unfortunately, you go out like this a little after the game and I can say it was just physics, so nothing else.
EG: It wasn't technique or tactics or whatever it was so the first thing and then we go to Germany they meet in the return match the same thing, one-one at half time. The end 11 toone so we are really blue with 19 2 in the 2 games first I cause I took. The phone. No, calls Potsdam and asks if I can be there for 2 weeks and that only I can come there and hang out for 2 weeks on a study visit in the pre-season and go there. Get there, and I think if you ever thought that you had brought the players to this line where it becomes too much.
EG: No. It's just because in the vicinity of it and so incredibly shocked but and the post office was superior in Europe at the time and but they had a 30 man to believe he told me, I completely give a shit if eight are injured. Then I have 22 healthy ones so you could push the players in a way that was maybe a little supernatural. But I still took this with me to Iceland and started driving this mine a little. The freezing training in Potsdam and I saw the team that way. It was a straight line up. And yes, I don't know I have. I always have, at least in Kristianstads, I think that often we have had physically better teams than the opponents on the field, although we are not better football-wise.
Interviewer?:But, because I think we're like beta describes now like how important it is with references, you know? out in Europe and see that?
EG: Yes, but those we need references and influences that move these boundaries of what is actually possible so half the thing is again a little faith in, as well as what makes it happen and and then that start implementing it because the analysis is not that difficult. It's the execution that's the thing. Just. So, I don't know if you agree, but I think you'll agree with the monk at least now that we've seen so much of the games this season. 2023 is my image that very often almost like this, regardless of whether it is a top match between 2 top teams or if it is the top against the bottom or bottom team.
EG: But in the middle of the second half, the matches break up because the players are so damn tired. So my picture is that. With this modern coaching training, you want to remove everything that is isolated. Well, you prefer to only have football training and it should ideally be as short a warm-up as possible so that you can go straight into football-related stuff and I'm in the other direction and I've had to challenge my employees in these matters too and so that's . I'm going to run sometimes, you just have to run. Well, but girls first and foremost. You have if you want. Now I'm also educated in sports, so I'm a little extra passionate about these questions and everything and I can't do this with start stop, that is.
EG: The difference between a 12 and old girl. In the stat peak moment vs. a guy in the stat peak moment, that's it. We don't even have to discuss the difference. The difference is you can take 10 random girls in soccer and 10 random guys in soccer and then you look at this moment and there it says a difference so that there is not and it is for biological reasons. But it's also for somewhat nerdy reasons, they have. These 10 guys that we had taken out random sy is 100% sure that 8 of the guys watch football regularly while 8 of the girls don't. There they also learn a little about these braking moments. this Click all that, so therefore I think you have to train it in isolation with them at an early age and continue even in a team. So I always want isolated sprints preferably isolated ones.
EG: Rubber band sprints, 200 m sprints, a bit of stuff like that, but it also becomes a challenge when you have to lead a staff and then different people who have to be responsible for different things like that. as well as. No, but we're talking about individual development, but we're becoming more and more a collective me. I've seen a lot of training this fall. I'm looking a little closer at 9 as well as the school hours and so on and what we sometimes think that we work with individual training and development by positionally adapting the training and that is not at all what beta is talking about now because if I need more starts and stops or become more intense or. Have a better left foot or whatever it is, it doesn't come from me getting individual training in the position that is training right now I intend to play and what I I believe in a wider football education in as well as in everyone in all parts that do the player ready to either go to Beta, hit or to someone else's team.
EG: But but to be well enough educated in football to fix both. After all, that is what is a sustainable career if you drag it, like all the way there. Yes, but and it's not like it's like this that that that. It can't be like that big difference, then. Football absolutely, it's a much more complex sport than golf is, but the best golfers. After all, they practice with each club to become very good with that club to have it ready in the bag when they go out and play 18 holes then which you can compare to 1 football match. And I think that we we like. We have to dare to go back to breaking out moments regardless of whether they are physical moments or technical moments.
EG: But they just have to be worn, they have to be worn and worn and worn and worn. Put them in sharp mode. Yes, and it can be done, it can be done. You can combine this. That's it which is the thing, but it requires a bit of planning and I visited a club out in Europe last fall here. They had 2 plans next to each other where they worked collectively and then they went to individually on others then they just changed so they were 22 players they they worked with 11 at a time on each pitch and. It doesn't work in all places, but it is possible to think about also bringing in individual development and not just putting it on the player and saying if you stop 12 minutes after this now, you get to shoot a few more shots. I think it's 1, 1, 1 leadership evaluation question of what will make like the big football action to be better overall.
EG/Interviewer?: I thought we'd start talking a little about the future, but only briefly, so I thought we'd bounce on what you said at Olof Lundh's. With this elite, we've been inside and touched on it a bit now. But precisely the difference elite versus Sweden versus Iceland and so on and it felt like you in Iceland are very It's like no big deal that someone is better when you're a child but you have to be you you have to. It must have been very strange for you to come to Sweden in certain respects like that.
EG:Absolutely and me. It can see this as I want to, and now that I've had time to reflect a little on my time in Kristianstads and how I'm developing as a coach, I feel very clearly that I want to bring some of this back. To. Allow people to be better than others, so that what you should still I think give you nourishment that there will be this individual competition and the competition within the team as well.
EG:That you should really be encouraged to try to be better than those you train next to and that's the way it is, the whole environment in Iceland and I think I've perhaps adapted a little too much. You become a bit Swedish here. When you operate in Sweden, of course for the best and for the best, absolutely, but it is. I think that it is healthy to bring a little competition into one's life is not a little. Yes. We have a lot of competition in our environment, right? Absolutely, but, but I want more, not just this that it's 4 against 4 and you want to win that match, so I'm going crazy one more time people are counting results, that's it, it was among the sickest things I've been through when I moved to Sweden. That you can really complete a game in training and no one has any idea what it says and believe me it chose.
EG: It's common in Sweden, so every time a new young player comes to Kristianstads to train with us, everyone knows that halfway through I'll go straight to that player. What does it say? And then my older players should have helped her with this. You don't come here and don't count results because then she comes and then there will be 50 push-ups for everyone because I. Want push-ups. Yes yes, every time it has to you.Know for.Everyone. 50.
EG: Everyone hates push-ups, you don't want to do?5 yes yes no absolutely absolutely, but I thought that 5 I thought 10 like 50. Of the landing? No, that is. Then it will also be like this that the next time you have to play 5 against 5 as it goes, it comes. The oldest players to the young games. But now you count the result and you have to take care of it yourself because they don't have time to run over there and say it says 2 1. But. You have to keep track of the result, but I want to get more into this too that as I was my whole coaching revolved around this, that I had individual competitions like this within the team as well, so you compete in the Elmodigen and that you won most of the time during the week and this way you Iceland is very much about what you got nowhere about that not. Is the best.
Interviewer?:But the future is a bit more expensive? Eva the monk that we have talked about here in the autumn, that the best should still be the best as well.
EG?:Yes, but that and that I think it exists in a way I I think that when we When you kind of hardly dare to send out the district team by email, do you understand who comes up with the district team from time to time? Then the pendulum has gone way too far, but I'd say the best can be good in general. They can. But. Just like selection can't become an ugly word. But it all depends on the way we do it. It's like what beta describes like competition and and winners' skulls. It's really important, but if you don't meet it with reasonably good behavior with respect or sit together at the breakfast table again in the morning and hold each other's hands when it's done, they can.
EG:Competition also derails and goes wrong so that everything has to meet. But like whichever way you turn, pedagogy. Should also meet it with 1 sensible leadership behavior and that. I think that is one of the most important as well as the development areas that we need to catch up, because we we. There is nothing Beta doesn't know about physics. There is nothing that we at the football association can't do if I say it again about the football itself or the football actions now. Now we have to make sure that a 12-year-old girl gets the right leadership behavior to become your best self in the long run as well.
EG/Interviewer?:Yes, I could continue that discussion for a long time, but I thought we should talk a little in the future with Beta as well. Before we round off where I started by saying ex-football coach. It feels like it's just a break here and I understand that you won't say anything to us of course if it's clear somewhere. But you've been talking about potential potential employers anyway? Will you be coaching a football team on January 8th? That's one you can answer anyway.
EG: It won't. It won't.
Interviewer:No, OK, you won't answer on any of these questions.
EG: I started by answering now. What?
Interviewer:Did you answer then? Did you answer that, no, you will not coach a football team or no, you will not answer.
EG: On that? No, I will not coach a football team January 8, it will I don't do.
What is like yours is it the national team is it the club team so because a new club team is so incredibly new to you when you have been in the Kristianstad FC for so long it becomes. It's like a whole new world, you understand, if you've changed clubs very often, then it'll be OK. Maybe you should aim for confederations or, like, national teams in a different kind of challenge. And this feels like no matter what, it's going to be it a whole new world. So.
EG:That's how it feels and I go into this period with a very open mind and decided early on that my first thought and plan all along was to. Maybe just do nothing for a few months and see what would happen on the way to have some ice in the stomach, so that was the idea all along. Then it still came together. Interesting stuff, so processes are a bit fun in this profession when you have changed a lot, I understand. Now I've never been on the market, so I know, I haven't been in those myself here processes before, but I have stood on my agent and. And people I've talked to and gotten some advice from. It's that the processes have changed a lot that both club teams pick up their top 5 candidates or it often starts with 10 until it becomes 5 and then maybe 2 3 at the end and that are processes that are very instructive and. I can say that I am involved in 2 processes now that I think are very interesting and can both lead to something very, very exciting, so you never know, you may end up with a really good job and you may also end up empty-handed.
Interviewer?: So it is. Exciting, exciting what do we think the monk was where do we think beta ends up somewhere. No, it doesn't sound like Sweden, I think. That if I had to guess something, but I, I also see this trend as beta talking about that before. It's a Friday and then it was finished on Sunday. That is, do you want to train?
EG/Interviewer?:Yes, but it feels OK, now it's now, that's pretty much it. It is. It's half of the salary black. Yes, it's not deep rvjuer in a completely different way, which I think is actually the most developing for the coach in itself than than that than that the club has like complete like. Capacity to assess all parts of an interview like this without being mean to anyone, but I think that. It is extremely developing because you kind of get a clearer picture of yourself, but I think it is also met by the fact that it depends on the assignments is starting to look a little different depending on the club or country or level of the club so that we need to meet, that is to say what what, what is good at now is just as important, what should what should we , what should we have Beta for in this project?
EG: We need to figure that out and then. With what I tried to say at the beginning, it's not, everyone is not completely clear on what mission they are on, because it only takes a couple of matches, then the mission has been changed if it doesn't work exactly as it was intended. I think. I saw. That what men's football. No, I have turned down the assignments that I have been offered in men's football. Because it was the wrong assignment or because it was men's football. Yes, both, I think now. I don't know if the right assignment would come if it were to change my interest, but I. I feel that my competence is in women's football and the knowledge that I have acquired there contacts. And so on it is difficult and I feel that difficult to settle into.
It's almost like going to 1 other sport, getting into the knowledge of all the plays in the game. What can you do in men's soccer that you can't do in women's soccer or vice versa? Well, it is. the questions and came to the conclusion that right now it's nothing for me. It sounds very healthy, doesn't it? Yes, at the same time you become yes, you would like to challenge that, that is, I me, I think you can, you have absolutely the right reflexes to succeed on that side. I have seen quite a few leaders on the men's side who know significantly less than you can bet about. All these complexities that you describe, but where I think your leadership would be very useful. I think so too. I want to be clear in saying that. be good weather. Today great.
Interviewer:What? Is there a special tradition in Iceland over Christmas and New Years? Do you eat something different or?
EG: Yes, you do. You do. It's a little. It's a little different, but.
Interviewer:What's your favorite on the Christmas table?
EG:Christmas ham . Yes, but it is. It's not a Christmas table, but it's 70% of the country eats the same ham and. Sugar potatoes. Sorry, things and potatoes and potatoes. Frying the potatoes in sugar and butter is very useful. Yes, then you'll have good luck with the sweet potatoes then?
Interviewer:And thank you very much beta, it's very kind of the monk that we got to Beta. We're very happy and we'll miss you in town Swedish.
EG?:Really, I think we can say that from everyone huh, thanks for these years.
Interviewer?:It was great fun following you and Kristianstads. Thanks for the conversation itself. Welcome back.
Interviewer?:You know if I'm unemployed in January, I expect that a conversation about what was July 3 to this program. In Swedish children. I promise. I think I think maybe the risk is not so great in and of itself that you would end up unemployed, thank you very much, Cabeta and Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.
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