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[iamonlyperson]

does someone has the same problem when you trying example turn off your top posts but doesn't turn off!? like it doesn't go away. I can turn off on my sideblogs but not the main one (which is this one)

#i have restarted #i have uninstalled and reinstalled the app #log off and back on #i even can't turn off asks or anonymous

[iamonlyperson]

Funny how we trended 4 cumulative days and about two hours ago they stopped trending and now Watcher Entertainment tag is trending

#watcher #watcher entertainment

[iamonlyperson]

Ghost Files Live Update:

The first ever Live Too Many Spirits was great, the audience chanted for Ryan to chug his beer…he managed a sip😂

The tried the Estes method live on stage and the ghost was definitely English, he said thank you when Ryan called him a p*ick

We saw a sneak peek of new season where they have given Ryan and Shane heart monitors which was really cool to see

There was some pretty good evidence in the new episode too, but everyone was laughing too much to tell!

The Q&A was really good but no one brought up the stream app and controversy

Ryan and Shane seemed really nervous at first but I think once they saw the vibe of the audience was good they relaxed

The audience called out a lot which was hilarious, I don’t think they were expecting such an active audience

Overall, it was a great show! And they played Bring Me to Life as the outro song!

#thats good everything went well #thankfully nobody didn't started booing because please don't #i was kinda hoping someone gonna ask them about the streamer but it's also good that #people know their boundaries #overall glad yall had fun #and didn't make this awkward #i think they were ready for getting those questions for sure

[iamonlyperson]

“So you forgive them, just like that?”

i’ve never felt that it was a matter of forgiveness, more of if you accept to continue watching the content and creators even if you disagreed strongly with a business move and they way they presented it. if you can move past it. forgiveness would be more personal, and imply a relationship.. which isn’t the case. i think shane and ryan are great content creators, and i find their content very entertaining, they’ve taken accountability and changed the issues i had with the streamer. why wouldn’t i come back?

“they’re still money hungry, they revealed their true colors!”

they’re a business, and they have 25 employees that rely on them. of course they’re looking for profit, and expand the business. that’s what businesses do

[iamonlyperson]

i have seen some people say that for those, who gonna subscribe to watcher tv, gonna spoil the episodes because they will be posted the next month. i can promise you, if i become a subscriber, i wouldn't spoil anything. even though i want to (examples ph), i never gonna spoil.

#im usually not spoiler free blog but this case where people who not gonna pay #still can see it later #i can wait even though i hate waiting

[iamonlyperson]

wishing best to british lads who are going to the show. Keep us also updated if something gonna happen or are talked about. thanks!

#watcher

[iamonlyperson]

Penguinz0 video about Watcher apology video

#watcher #penguinz0 #decided to post this for those who are interested to see #Youtube

[iamonlyperson]

Just going to make this post, saying im still gonna continue to watch Watcher and continue to support them and keep posting about them. Since this deal, i consider maybe become Watcher TV subscriber (if they fix the international problem). This whole was rough and ugly but the end of the day, it was bad business idea. I hope they learned something from this and trying to make better decisions in the future. Of course you don't have to trust them until they can progress and actually show they can do better than this move.

#watcher

[iamonlyperson]

Congratulations to Watcher for winning two Webby Awards (Mystery Files and Ghost Files)

#watcher #webby awards #ghost files #mystery files

[iamonlyperson]

"to all those who BULLIED Shane and Ryan and Steven into compromising, are you happy now?!????!?!!? 😡😡😡😡" yes thanks for asking.

[iamonlyperson]

people are saying "finally" or "they took too long" .... i did NOT want a next day update. the fact that they waited a few days shows they made proper business decisions that included a lot of debating. if anything it builds my trust in this new direction rather than destroying it

[iamonlyperson]

apology or not, it leaves a bitter taste that they forgot and neglected their international fans

[iamonlyperson]

only one complain more. I wish they post, on streamer of course, multiple shows at once like example i don't want to watch Steven shows (before yall jump, im not interested in his shows but i don't say they are bad) and watch something new. Like two shows at once (like back when they started)

#watcher #watcher tv

[iamonlyperson]

long reaction to the update

ok. so they put out an update video! since i've been commentating for the last three days i might as well subject you all to more of my thoughts today.

main takeaway: this was a good apology video. i mean it. short and to the point, no overproduction, heartfelt and honest (and not a ukelele to be seen. thank god.) they took ownership of the situation, apologized, and restated how much they value their relationship with the fandom.

their solution is to make the watcher tv platform into kind of an iteration of patreon where content is available for early access before it is released onto youtube later. this is clearly a better option than paywalling everything for everyone. i'm not sure what the relative breakdown of costs turns out to be when you compare how much they were making on patreon after the platform took their cut VS how much it costs in overhead to run and maintain their own platform (how much it costs annually to contract via Vimeo, essentially). but i'm sure that's part of the calculation.

all things considered, that does seem like the best option out of all the alternatives. it allows them to not completely abandon any of the pans they have simmering over the fire for the time being. i don't think i ever thought they were going to just say "oops, forget about the streaming thing! let's pretend that never happened!" because at this point they've invested quite a lot of time and money into it, and i don't disagree that keeping it in some iteration may help them make up some of the funds they're lacking.

i would say, it's fine to keep the streamer. this is one of the ok outcomes, all things considered-- but if they're going to do it, they've GOT to do it smart from this point forward. listen to both the fans and the consultants intimately. both are going to have valid points, and both are going to be right. listening to too much of either side will sink this thing because each has motives and expertise that the other doesn't. if the fans say $6 is too much, listen to them-- but have conversations with business consultants about how much you realistically need to charge to make things work.

also, i'd use this whole situation as a learning experience. watcher is a young company, and it's literally inevitable that mistakes will happen. what's different is that the watcher crew haven't really been in a position before where they've been on the receiving end of the internet-angry-justice-hammer to this extent. it's one thing to watch it happen to others, but it's a position of extreme privilege (and a bit of hubris) to think "but that won't happen to me, because i'm built different." naw, man-- two things in life are inevitable: death and fuckups. the callout posts get us all in the end.

what's really important is that they use this as a wakeup call that even the most loyal fandoms will only follow you so far to the cliff's edge, and you don't want to push that. you have to strike a balance between the passion projects that you think are worthy and the stuff that maybe doesn't excite you as much anymore but the people want to see. a little fanservice keeps the lights on, as unfair as that might seem. i'm gonna make 50 markiplier choccy milk memes just so i can make one niche political joke once and a while for 6 likes. it is what it is.

i'd also use this as a chance to take a very careful look at company structure and finances. it's not fun to do and nobody likes it. trust me-- this is hard whether you're a single adult trying to pay the bills or the freaking US government (speaking from experience on both-- i have to read the president's budget for work frequently). but you all have to ask hard questions about the ratio of creative staff you take on VS staff for administrative and other business roles, as well as the costs and benefits of everything you spend money on. how many staff members are essential to location shoots? can this video be shot with 2 cameras instead of 3 and thus you don't need another cameraperson? you might even have to come to the decision that instead of pitching a new show it makes more sense to use those funds to hire your essential non-creative roles or contract firms or freelancers.

paying staff a fair wage with benefits speaks highly of what watcher wants their values to be. it's hard to find such a position in a creative role and still actually get to work on things you care about. but it would be much worse if watcher didn't make realistic decisions about finances and it lead to the death of the company and everyone losing their jobs. the whole watcher company can work, in my opinion, but not without some sacrifices. they're going to have to run it more like a business and less like a youtube-channel-turned-business in the future if they want to survive.

last thing i'll add is that while i do think this was a good apology video, i still think they hurt themselves by not putting out some sort of statement on Friday or Saturday just to say that they were formulating a response. As i've said in other posts, it's ok and in fact beneficial to not make a kneejerk reaction, but it's also very important to communicate that you SEE what's happening. you SEE what people are saying and THAT'S why you need more time to respond. saying nothing and leaving the angry public to wonder if you dropped your phone off the Hoover Dam or just don't care? that's a fumble. it's a common mistake companies make in a crisis, but that doesn't mean it doesn't erode trust fast.

this could have been handled better in many ways. we see that, and i'm glad watcher says they see that too. crucial going forward is taking all this and patching the errors that caused all this to fall apart and learning from the experience.

tbh at this point what i'm most sad about is that the watcher crew have probably been too stressed out and upset to appreciate some of the absolute bangers people have been laying down to clown on them. i think if it wasn't about them they might be touched by the collective attitude and creative spirit. /j

[iamonlyperson]

They can put their clip back in the green

Remaking a meme I made this weekend after the Watcher apology



[iamonlyperson]

OH and quick reminder before I forget!

Companies are not your friends, even Content Creators that put up the parasocial mask to make you feel comfortable. Their aim is to make money off of you above all else. Remember that in the wake of this. Watcher is a company

Ryan and Shane and Steven are business people

Money will always be the thing that binds them to fans.

They are not the exception, they just showed VERY CLEARLY that they are the rule.

Continue consuming their content. I know I will be if anything piques my interest. But remember they are a Company and this is how they have to survive.

[iamonlyperson]

#watcher #watcher tv