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itsmaferart · 2 months
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@whateversawesome I would like to think that Yor will be the one to notice but there will be people or words that will previously notice. For example, when she meets Olka her interaction with her subsequently triggered her purpose. But it was Yor who realized it and assimilated it. Perhaps the Autem can play that role. Each person in Yor's life will be pushing the idea until she eventually finds the outcome.
Spy x Family Poll!
I've talked about Yor having feelings for Loid (here and here), but I suspect, it will take a third person mentioning something for her to realize about it. That being said...
Vote! I want to know what you think. And I'll tell you what I think when this poll is over 😎
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itsmaferart · 3 months
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Loid "No one bothers, accuses or assaults my wife in front of me" Forger
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Very good Endo, Loid Protective Husband is canon.
Now, possible Loid Forger Jealousy is not such a distant dream.
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itsmaferart · 4 months
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Fiona is in shambles
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itsmaferart · 5 months
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Hey Itsmaferart! I got a sensitive question for you: Do you think nowadays, Loid’s more known for Yor and his relationship with her than him as an actual character? It could be me but I noticed a large proportion of posts with him is basically either how smitten he was with her or how he should just kiss her. Plus, I can’t shake this feeling that some people only like him for the Twiyor ship instead of his multilayered character as people don’t discuss his other relationships or character that often.
I’m not oblivious to the fact Anya and Yor are far more popular and loved, as well as, the fact their are some character interactions that we are most invested than others but it’s abit of a personal thing pet peeve of mine when people only value or like a character for a ship when said character has far more complexities and relationships beyond than that. Nothing against the ship itself btw. I like Twiyor too but it feels like a disservice imo, especially since it’s not a romantic animanga.
Hello Thank you very much for your question!!!
Well, I must say that.... yes, and it is quite normal!
I have always believed that physically Twilight has a rather conventional physique but he manages to have enough charisma to attract the reader. As Endo himself says, he has the "just a guy" effect. But you manage to connect with his motivations and actions. Twilight puts his own well-being above the mission many times. He is a man pursuing a noble purpose.
However, I think it is a theme that has developed because of the latest controversy among the fandom and not because it is something that actually happens in the story. I really understand that much of the discontent has been generated because the pace of the episodes has felt slower, Endo's constant pauses due to his possible exhaustion from work, added to the fact that there have been episodic and quiet episodes that may or may not have repercussions in the plot has made much of the fandom question the pace of the series and when it has progressed.
And this was directed at the shipp, specifically with Twiyor. Sparking a dispute that has divided whether or not Yor and Loid have really moved on, or if Twilight has a better relationship with Nightfall….. Valid arguments and some debatable ones.
In fact, we know that it is very common for fandom to focus excessively on aspects of the plot such as shipp or action plots. But as I say, it's more of a dilemma that tends to happen in fandom until eventually it's overcome and the plot continues. I don't really feel it's an issue of Endo forgetting Twilight as a character, but it's clearly necessary to see an evolution. And it's clear that her relationship with Anya and Yor are necessary to see the change between them, and the attachment it has generated.
But I do think that sometimes fandom disputes make people only see Loid as a character destined for a relationship with Yor and forget about all the other aspects. I think they should not be considered as something relevant, and not divide us for unnecessary things.
Evntually, the story itself will take its course with the characters!!! thank you for your question.
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itsmaferart · 5 months
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"I belong to Loid Forger."
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itsmaferart · 5 months
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Hey there! A little question: Why is everyone always accusing Loid of being gay for not kissing or doing all kinds stuff to Yor? I don’t think it’s as easy as they are making it out to be, even though both characters are a catch…..in a mixture of red/green flaggish kinda way. I actually prefer it that both characters aren’t lusting for each other as it makes their relationship more endearing but when they start developing feelings for each other, it’s beyond their attractiveness.
I ship the every living hell out of these two but if Loid does all of those intimate stuff Yor now, I don’t know, it feels less cute, rewarding, and heartwarming and more like a fulfillment of our personal desires. I don’t think Loid is a surrogate or self insert incel character to be like that. I’m sorry if I can’t put it into words, English isn’t my strong suit but that how it feels to me.
Hi, it took me a while to respond but here it is!!
I think it's the fans' rush for couples to consolidate and there's no way to blame them, because really Twiyor is one of the good couples! The Spy x Family universe internally moves in a slow-moving manner, where events are small and focus more on the development and formation of bonds between people. There is no great interest in big events, and getting a romance is not the focal point, but a part of the story.Endo's narrative moves under its own rules and some may like it or despair.
I have read dozens of comments that talk about how slow the story is and that there is simply progress at the speed of a turtle. And yes, they are right (in part).
But the truth is that this is more a conflict of fan expectations and what the story wants to tell and how it is told.The story is not badly written and not badly developed. But not everyone may like it if you are expecting more significant advances.
So, yes, Loid is very slow and Yor very naive.... But...
that doesn't mean there's no love or that it doesn't come to pass.
I understand the frustration of the Twiyor shipper, and it is the conflict of what we interpret as intimacy and closeness. In most conventional romances, intimacy is forced through physical contact, often exaggerated or convenient. Holding hands, hugging, trying to kiss, asking each other out. The story focuses on pushing the characters to get closer and with them to generate a closeness that leads to romance.
That's why most fanfic is about them being in love or having closeness, because that's what we most want to see between them… That's why many see this romance as insipid.
Endo's approach is more emotional, calmer, where trust between two people is more important than whether they are close or not. The times when this is forced, it ends badly. The fact that Loid respects Yor enough to not make her feel uncomfortable, or that Yor wants to be Loid's refuge, speaks of a very balanced mental and emotional intimacy.
It is a more mature romance, where the focus is not so much on passion. Because when they try to make it romantic, they're both fools.
I think Endo is just trying to put his own idea of romance outside of what everyone expects, and that can bore some people.
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I suppose Endo will develop his relationship in his own way. But his main priority is the development of his people through a more everyday and chaotic life, above the spectacularity and action.… until we can finally be together
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itsmaferart · 5 months
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They should kiss to break the tension....
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....and learn a lot from their neighbors
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itsmaferart · 6 months
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Man, if you want to kiss your wife, do it! No need for hints
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itsmaferart · 6 months
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How did you fall in love?
Him: She hit me ….
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so hard!!!
Guy in denial for being too dumb + Beautiful girl who kicks his ass= Love
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itsmaferart · 6 months
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Let's recap…
As I mentioned in past posts… The last few arcs have hinted that plan C: mother-friends, with Yor and Melinda may very well be in action.
That is: the constant mentions of Melinda, Loid getting the V.I.P. archis soon, Fiona's possible participation in the plan (although in her current state we don't know if she will make it), Anya and Damian's friendship (?) moving forward (?)….
In parallel, we have the advances of Twilight and Yor, Twilight recognizing his weakness by being unable to kill his brother-in-law (also enemy from SSS) because he is unable to steal his wife's happiness, and Yuri who thinks if I execute Loi-Loi is to make my sister cry…. And asking directly IF YOR LOVES LOID??
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Things are moving forward people!
I feel that things are pushing that Yor evidently may be the one who is falling in love too much… maybe too much with her husband that she wants to take care of....and wants to see her brother's happiness too
And Plan C may move things forward further....!!
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itsmaferart · 6 months
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Yuri accidentally feeding the twiyor fandom
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Oh, dear, we know you "love him" but you're not ready to say it.
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itsmaferart · 6 months
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Yor felt bad about kicking Yuri out the other day, and feeling his presence she missed him
She probably told Loid that she misses her brother a little, and Loid (remembering that he could have almost killed him).
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That's why he wanted to support his wife, prepare delicious food for his brother-in-law.
Because they both know that Yor's happiness depends on both of them, they may not know it but they need each other to make Yor happy.
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itsmaferart · 6 months
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@eternal-echoes The irony is that Twilight hasn't questioned the countless moments of weakness with Yor, seeing how expressive Yor is with her emotions and het constant desire for effort brings his walls down without realizing it.
It wasn't until the last arc, where Twilight comes into awareness of this weakness having left Yuri alive. And yet, her body can't help but to splutter with relief at her. And yet, a part of him is relieved to have their support.!!
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For a master spy who sticks to the ironclad rule of never letting his emotions show, Twilight sure lets his guard down so easily around Yor. And the thing is, he doesn't even put much effort in keeping his walls up, it's like Yor showing genuine raw emotions melts away his stoicness. He doesn't even stop himself from telling her stuff about his past because she is so genuine when as a spy his past shouldn't exist anymore because he's just a shadow.
I believe he likes that; letting his guard down Yor and telling her his past, because when he's around Yor, he feels seen as a human being.
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Her gratitude towards him affirms his existence.
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itsmaferart · 6 months
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What do you think about the idea that Twiyor and Yor are ace/non-romantic?
Well, if you follow my posts you know I'm a fan of Twiyor romantic couple, so I don't know if I'm the right person to answer! 😊😊😊
Actually, I don't see any problem, each reader has the right to give his own interpretation of the work and this is not so much a matter of reading comprehension or not. After all, whatever Endo does in the manga is canon, but the way we like to understand it is our own decision.
Spy x family does not revolve around romance, so it is normal that their slow progress makes other people identify their relationship as people who appreciate each other as family without being romantic. This does not affect the story.
In many ways, Spy x family addresses many types of love. I think rather than being a debate of whether Loid and Yor are romantically linked, this should unite us as a fandom. Everyone can choose how they see their relationship, and if in the end it's not what we think, understand that this is Endo's work and it's his own vision.
Let's remember that shipps are fan headcanon (until they become official or not). In fact, many ships are sometimes of characters that have not even interacted in the canon. So, whether it's official or not, nothing prevents you from shipping romantically or not.
What I think we should be clear about is that our opinions as a fandom have no bearing on the plot. Let's just let Endo surprise us with his story and try to get along and enjoy it!
I hope I answered your question! Thanks! 😊😊😊
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itsmaferart · 6 months
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I want to believe that when the twiyor ring shows up is when the marriage relationship is at stake, because Yor has it tucked away in her things, and when the relationship gets real!
Grenade Pin!
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All hail the grenade pin! The Twiyor wedding ring has graced us with its appearance after 4 years (Chapter 2).
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itsmaferart · 7 months
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Twilight and Yor every time they say: We're not in love, this family is fake and it's ultimately just for the cover.
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I'm sorry, I'll make a joke out of this image to no end.
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itsmaferart · 7 months
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Twiyor according to the fandom: The hottest couple, full of sexual tension between an assassin and a spy.
Twiyor in reality:
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They are still a little hot, aren't they?
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