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Liz: And how should I look at this? Red: Like a criminal. May come easier than you think. Shall I show you?

PART TWO

(part one here)

Dr: Creel: People with the warrior gene can be triggered. I have identified what those triggers are, and when they occur, it’s not their fault.

TRIGGERED!

Liz: I killed some men. Doesn’t matter that they were bad. That it was them or me.

Lilly: He didn’t kill Mosadek. Liz: I know. I don’t care. Garvey: If I tell you everything I know about Reddington, what guarantees do I have that you won’t arrest me? Liz: Absolutely none. Lilly: He’s innocent.

(she's referring to Tom's murder)

Red: They’ll accept it when I’m dead in the street. They’ll accept it because you’re a criminal. Liz: Is that what I am? Or is that what I am because of you?

Additionally and in conclusion…

Red was an Imposter since Day 1

“Everything about me is a lie”. - Raymond Reddington.

Entertainment Weekly

Jon Bokenkamp [Showrunner and creator of the show]

“The Imposter Theory can be traced all the way back to first time Reddington met Elizabeth Keen and told her: ‘I’m a criminal, criminals are notorious liars. Everything about me is a lie.”

TV Insider

Did you know from the beginning that James Spader’s character wasn’t really Reddington?

Jon Bokenkamp: Since day one. It’s almost impossible to not know the ending before you begin or at least a really strong sense of it. “it is something that we’ve been playing from the beginning, and James has been playing from the beginning that we’ve been working towards.”

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Liz: And how should I look at this? Red: Like a criminal. May come easier than you think. Shall I show you? The Blacklist.

PART ONE

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This line makes a parental connection between Liz and Red.

Episode 4.22

The second crucial line in the pilot that showrunners confirm was an Imposter clue is the “Everything about me is a lie” line.

Parental connection via the criminal parallel +

Red is not her father but an imposter of her father. =

Red is The Mother.

Wild ass speculation:

The mother died of WEAKNESS AND SHAME as per what Red told Liz in the pilot. Interestingly, that line about weakness and shame was different on the draft pilot script dated 2012 that somehow made it online and fans have decided to dissect it carefully. LOL.

In the original draft, her mother worked two jobs to keep Liz in school and out of juvenile court. Some anti-Redarina fans say this is evidence that Red was originally not supposed to be the mom as the mom would have raised Liz until she was 14. That same draft has Liz's age as 36 later changed to 29/30. Liz: There was a fire. I was fourteen. Mr. Kaplan: You tell people you got it when you were 14. Why is that? Liz: To hide the truth?

I disagree that any of this disproves Redarina. It is possible that her mother still could have disappeared and re-emerged as the imposter.

Liz's age was changed to 4 because maybe they realized that if Liz was 14, she could've remembered Red or saw something in him like his eyes. Changing her age to four years old IMHO, would've made it less likely for Liz to remember details, like Red's eyes. In the Luther Braxton Conclusion episode, it seemed Liz recognized that Red was at the fire by his EYES. She saw her mother in Red's eyes in the season 8 finale so. Add in the fact that Red had her memories erased.

And anyway, if they had kept it that the mom worked two jobs, etc, etc.. She still went somewhere and was out of the picture> Liz told Cooper she raised herself so both parents were out of the picture. Liz: Like most kids who raised themselves, I can display narcissistic behavior. I can be withdrawn, disconnected.

THINK LIKE A CRIMINAL. The showrunners talk about Liz’s darkness and how she's becoming more like Red.

SEASON 3 - THE AU REVIEW

(When Liz and Red went on the run)

John Eisendrath: In terms of where Liz is heading, I think she’s struggling with this notion that there’s a piece within her that is criminal. Red told her in the very first episode of the show ‘think like a criminal, it may come easier to you than you may expect’ and I think that sort of haunts her, and now, even though she has whispers of a criminal past that we’ve alluded to, now that she’s being confronted with actually being a criminal, she’s had to rely on these instincts that she wants to ignore and pretend like they’re not there – and now she needs them.” So, not only is Liz forced to embrace a darker side that might be within her, we’re also getting to go out and travel with Red and to see him take the reigns and see how he operates and where he goes and stays in ways that we haven’t really seen before. Liz is going to take the audience by the hand and go into Red’s world a little bit more and learn about how he moves and operates which is going to be a lot of fun.

SEASON 5 TV GUIDE - SEASON 5

Daddy issues. If you thought the discovery that Red is her father would put an end to Liz's identity crisis once and for all, think again. "Her father is essentially the devil," Bokenkamp says. "She's confronting some frightening questions about who she is and what's in her DNA and that fight between good and evil. ... Liz is going to be combating that instinct to perhaps break the rules and fighting a darker side of herself that she knows is probably right under the surface." But in some twisted way, embracing her true nature may make Liz even better at her job. "Is she like Reddington?" Bokenkamp wonders. "He told her early, 'Think like a criminal. It may come easier than you think.'"

SEASON 5 ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY

How is Liz dealing with the truth that Red is her father?

Jon Bokenkamp: It’s going to be interesting to watch it play out, because I think she’s secretly terrified, or maybe not so secretly terrified, that the devil is her father and that she may have some of those instincts. He told her in the pilot, “Think like a criminal. It may come easier to you than you think,” and we’ve seen aspects of that. She murdered the Attorney General and has been on the run in the past. And so, I think she’s going to plant her flag early on that she’s a cop first and that is probably going to be a season-long struggle for her.

Elizabeth Keen No. 1 on The Blacklist.

SEASON 8 ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY

Megan Boone: I was definitely hoping it would be Liz at No. 1, but I didn't want to presume," Boone says. "I have to say… it's an honor.

SEASON 8 ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY

John Eisendrath: From the second Reddington walked into her life, a dark path was always a possibility for Liz. "One of the dramatic questions from the beginning is how this master criminal's desire to connect with this innocent FBI agent would change her life," Eisendrath explains. To find Blacklisters, Reddington has encouraged Liz to understand the mindset and think like a criminal. "She's learned at the feet of a master," he adds. The FBI agent's key moments, including learning she has the Warrior gene in her DNA and covering up a murder she committed, coupled with what Reddington has been teaching her, have been leading her to this place. Now, she's been pulled far enough into the dark side to be at the top of Red's list.

Red told Cooper that what Liz did by betraying them in this episode and kidnapping Dom was her “destiny.” What does that mean?

SEASON 8 THE WRAP

Bokenkamp:

I think what Red was talking about goes to the core of who Liz is. Is she fundamentally good? Is she fundamentally bad? Has she reached a tipping point that she can’t return from, or was this meant to be because it’s in her DNA? We’ve seen Liz dip her toes in the dark waters over the years — she’s certainly not that innocent, young FBI agent that we met in the pilot — and this season is going to explore her darker side. I think the real question lies in seeing how she navigates these dark waters and, if she does survive this, how she looks when she comes out the other side.

Eisendrath:

This has been a question since the pilot. First when she thought Red was her father; later when she realized Katarina Rostova was her mother — how much of a parent’s behavior is a child destined to repeat? In Liz’s case, how much bad behavior?

The murder of Attorney General Tom Connolly (Reed Birney) was more about Liz than it was about her executing him. "It reflected to the audience about how far Liz is willing to go," Bokenkamp says. "That murder is very telling of who she was, and perhaps even who she was in the process of becoming." It got at the core of a debate the writers had for years, which was whether she's destined to embrace her darkness or it was free will that she chose to do these things. Liz's desperate action was not just a considerable character turn, but it sent her on the road with Reddington. Spending time with him meant seeing that she was more like him than she wanted to admit. - Entertainment Weekly

The Warrior Gene - Dr.Linus Creel Episode 2.04

The episode did not confirm that Liz had the warrior gene though it was implied. In later interviews, the showrunners confirm that Liz DID possess it.

Samar: I received everything Creel had on file at the hospital patient records, test results Including yours. We logged everything else into evidence, but I thought perhaps you would want that. It’s probably meaningless, right? Do you think Reddington could have known, when he gave you this case, that you’d find out?

Part two

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Liz: And how should I look at this? Red: Like a criminal. May come easier than you think. Shall I show you?

#the blacklist #reddit

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Red: Elizabeth couldn’t sleep. Colicky. But more often than not, when she scrunched that bunny against her cheek, she was calm, quiet. 9X12.

XYZ

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"This flag was deliberately placed at half-mast so when it landed on Reddington and the glasses, I thought this was a nice, iconic image to introduce this guy." - Joe Carnahan, Director. Ep 101 Pilot.

#the blacklist #james spader #raymond reddington #1.01 #pilot #joe carnahan #newton phillips #flag #american flag #half mast #half-mast

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Season 7- The Katarina Rostova aka Fakerina Arc.

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Redarina in Season 1 - The way Sam told the story.

The way Sam told the story.

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The Blacklist, Season 6, Episode 19 "Rassvet"

Dom: What you need to do is to thank me for putting all of this behind you. Red: Is that what you think you did? Because I think you may have made things worse. So, from the start what did you tell her, word for word?

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When did Red's mother die? Lena Volkova aka Virginia Lopatin aka Virginia King.

From a Redarina perspective? I propose it was during the time he was in prison. Posted below is a timeline of Red's prison arc and how it reconciles with Katarina's mother dying around that time.

R E D A R I N A

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ishipsharpwin side blog

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The Blacklist - Megan Boone as "Elizabeth Keen"

First and Last Scene

S1 (Sept 2013) & S8 (June 2021)

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NBC The Blacklist- Pilot Gif

"Oh, I think you're very special.

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The Blacklist - Brainstorming Raymond Reddington's Fingerprints and DNA.

Also posted on Reddit.

A little theorizing.

Red's fingerprints.

In the pilot episode, Red is identified as "Raymond Red Reddington" by FINGERPRINTS and by a visual identification from the Assistant Director of The FBI Harold Cooper. Red's fingerprints were a match to the prints of Raymond Red Reddington stored in the FBI's database [AFIS]. RR was on The FBI's Most Wanted list for Treason among many other charges.

We later found out in Season 4, Episode 22 that Assistant Director Harold Cooper did consider taking DNA from Red in the pilot but only in so far as he suspected that Red and Liz might be related. Liz: Procured a sample of Reddington’s blood? From evidence? That’s tampering. Cooper: Yes. And I should’ve done it the day he surrendered.

Red's DNA

Red is an imposter and not the real Raymond Reddington as is later revealed in So how did his fingerprints match?

The writers may have given a possible explanation.

Samar: What’s with the long face?Ressler: We pulled a print off the Fowler crime scene.Samar: Reddington’s?Ressler: Possibly. If it is, it ties him to our murder. Haven’t run it yet.Samar: And you don’t know if you should.Ressler: Oh, I know I should, but if I do, this could all end and we might end up in jail.

Gale: And? Ressler: It didn’t match. Gale: [ Chuckles ] What? Ressler: The print it’s not Reddington’s. Gale: That’s impossible. Did they even run it through AFIS? Ressler: Yeah, the unsub wasn’t in the system. Gale: Well, there you have it. The system’s rigged. Ressler: What are you talking about? Gale: [ Chuckles ] The system’s rigged by Reddington, for Reddington. It’s the only explanation. I mean, he’s he’s got somebody on the inside. You said so yourself. Ressler: I was kidding.

Liz: How’d you do it? How’d you change the fingerprint? Red: The fingerprint? Liz: Don’t play dumb. The one Gale and Ressler found that connects you to the death of Diane Fowler. Red: I assure you I know nothing of it.

Additional:

Gale: He’s listening to “Sundown.” The strum of the guitar, the voice of a man who’s seen too much sorrow. You know, there is a chance this music was on before Reddington got here.

Doubtful that music was on. Red put that record on. This was an alternative explanation to "the prints didn't match Reddington"

more wild speculations:

Conclusion (Imho): The show is trying to say that the system is rigged by Red. It's the only explanation. Not surprising given the episodes Room 417 and The Morgana Logistics Co in Season 10.

Fingerprints and DNA cannot be changed even in the universe of The Blacklist. Not even Red's. Rigging/falsifying/manipulating on the surface is just trickery. The show told us how the magicians do their tricks but they also told us how the truth is easy to unravel. [proper testing, etc]

Katarina faked the DNA report to fool Kirk into believing he was Liz's father. Liz took a new test between her and Kirk and it was revealed that he was not the father. Retesting properly would reveal the actual truth.

Same thing with The Alchemist episode. Yes. medical science is portrayed as being competent. Just like they don't show the FBI being incompetent all the time. The DNA from 4.22 ACCURATE. The DNA from 5.22 ACCURATE. The Dna report between Red and Liz that Liz ran in Episode 1.02 would have been accurate. There is a reason the show couldn't and didn't address running a DNA report between the two in the beginning of the series or even throughout the whole show. It's the biggest mystery so understandable the show needed to preserve this secret to stay on the air. The DNA from 5.22 between the real RR and Liz matched as parent/child. Red's and Liz's would also match as Parent and child because Red is the Mother.

The Philomena Episode

Agent Gale was trying to solve the murder of Diane Fowler. What was shown was that when Red was at Fowler's house, he handled the record and the record player.

Those things were scrubbed and cleaned of any DNA or prints. The chair Red was sitting in had no trace of anything. For some reason, the record brush was the only item that had many fingerprints on it.

*There is a reason the writers wrote this and it was a big part of the episode.