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Guys, I'm thankful and flattered, but please, let it go, don't feed the trolls. Let's keep our spaces safe for us.

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It's this article even real? I found it hard to believe someone would read the manga or watch the show and decide that Naruto "doesn't need the overdone Sasuke Arc".

First and most importantly, Sasuke singlehandedly moves the entirety of the plot forward, he doesn't have an entire arc dedicated to himself because he's relevant for every single arc the story possesses, and he's the reason key characters behave the way they do; taking away Sasuke's journey to make him a complying tool of the state wipes out the reasoning behind every villain's actions, therefore, it destroys them as well.

It's hilarious how this article exists to take away Sasuke's relevance within the story to give it completely to Naruto, something his fandom has wanted since the very beginning of the manga and that Kishimoto never complied.

In the Naruto series, Sasuke was Naruto's rival in the Hidden Leaf. However, he was training to kill his older brother, Itachi, for wiping out their clan. In time, Sasuke would learn Itachi did what he did to protect Konoha as their Uchiha kin wanted a coup. This enraged Sasuke, who nonetheless vowed to kill Itachi and exact revenge on Konoha.

Okay so, we start awfully, and no surprises there. Sasuke killed Itachi and later on, through Obito, learned about the reasoning behind his brother's actions. It's after this that he vows to bring down those who allowed and encouraged the construction of a system that pushed the Uchiha to rise up against this power dome and forced his brother to murder his entire family.

Regardless of the circumstances, Sasuke hated the fact he had to grow up alone. This is the reason he joined the Akatsuki, formed his own terrorist cell called Taka, and tried to murder Naruto after the wars against Obito and Madara.

No. You cannot use "regardless of the circumstances" when those circumstances are detrimental to his character's actions and the functioning of the system against which he, like other characters throughout the plot, stands. He not only hated having to grow up alone (a consequence of, once again, the genocide carried out BY THE STATE ITSELF through his brother), but also the indiscriminate murder of his relatives, both those who engineered the coup and those who were profiled based on biological conditions over which they had no control.

Also, there was one single war against Obito and Madara that stretched through a couple of days for which he participated in bringing down both of them as his idea of revolution didn't partake in their idea of absolute control of people's minds.

The Naruto movie (and obviously, the sequels) would be better served by doing something unpredictable. The Evil Sasuke arc is overdone, especially since it comes up in the Boruto era. In the latter case, a redeemed Sasuke keeps using it as a lesson to teach Boruto and Kawaki why they should not let rage guide them. Fans don't like being reminded how unnecessary this was in the source material.

Overdone? Did this guy actually watch the anime at least? The entirety of the plot focuses on the system flaws that even the protagonist is "set to change", Sasuke's arc is detrimental to the story as both Naruto and Sasuke observe the same issue from different standpoints, the former wants to keep the system and make gradual changes as not to "bring chaos" and the latter wants its complete destruction as a gradual change only guarantees greater injustices being committed over time until it is "changed".

Take Sasuke off of this equation and there's no reason for Naruto to even go on or have any introspection on the matter of Konoha's political and military system --and I'm being incredibly kind about this as even when Sasuke blatantly exposes it Naruto has a hard time grasping the most basic concepts to rebel against.

Additionally, Sasuke's villain arc would be a lot to condense into live-action, even if it's done over a trilogy. It could be done the way the MCU took 10 years to build the Thanos fight in Avengers: Endgame, but by that time, the story would be stale. Everyone would know what happened. The advantage the MCU had while adapting the source material is that it subverted the lore and crafted an original story. c

Does this author actually know what "adaptation" actually means? Or what it entails? What they seem to want is a reversion of the story as they desire to modify the entirety of the character that is the main plot device within the original product, not an adaptation. Also, what's with the last phrase? How can Sasuke be a loyal rogue? That's a contradiction in itself, is he a rogue of Konoha or is he loyal to Konoha? Pick one -you can't have both.

The advantage of Sasuke being a rebel without defecting from Konoha is that Naruto would have the help needed to fight the big villains of the franchise: the Ōtsutsuki. 

Sasuke fought alongside Naruto against Kaguya, bringing the union of former Team 7, without having to compromise his original ideals... did they just... forget?

Kaguya was the first alien who came to Earth, got sealed away, and then tried to return to enslave it. Naruto and Sasuke were reincarnations of her sons (Ashura and Indra, respectively), but the manga and anime didn't spend much time detailing how they would form their clans down the line and the emotional impact Kaguya had fighting her descendants.

Haha, come on, this is clickbait isn't it? Ashura and Indra are not Kaguya's sons, they're her grandchildren that reminded her of her sons, bet your ass this is a Boruto fan that just heard about the original series and wrote whatever this was without eyeing the og manga.

but the manga and anime didn't spend much time detailing how they would form their clans down the line and the emotional impact Kaguya had fighting her descendants.

That's because one of Kaguya's sons went to live on the moon and the other one, Hagoromo, had two sons on Earth (Indra and Ashura) who -as the manga establishes, founded their own clans (Uchiha and Senju respectively) that were at war until Konoha's foundation.

It focused heavily on Sasuke plotting in the shadows, and Naruto forming an army, realizing much later in the story of their link to Kaguya.

What? They learned about their connection to Kaguya through Hagoromo before fighting her, Sasuke also never plotted in the shadows, he blatantly tells them he wants a Revolution and later on decides to kill Naruto as he's his last connection to his past! That's the whole reason they fight!

By switching this up and making lineage a primary and not secondary arc, the movie can dial more into the emotional core: Sasuke and Naruto exploring their family tree and the overall theme of dynasty. Sasuke could learn more about how Indra developed a dark side, which passed down to the Uchiha, while Ashura's light gave way to the Senju and Uzumaki (Naruto's family) clans.

That's incredibly explored throughout the manga. The Senju are the only clan linked canonically to Ashura himself, the Uzumaki obtained Ashura's attention after the Senju disappeared as they were distant relatives.

Also, love the distinction of "Indra developed a dark side which passed down to the Uchiha" and "Ashura's light gave way to the Senju". Hagoromo favored this distinction by granting the totality of his power to one of his sons and expecting the other to be functional to his brother's decisions. If Hagoromo considered that Ashura's position was better than Indra's, why did he not teach his eldest son to make similar decisions? How is it that Indra decided to form a clan and a collective group of people if his idea was to move and gain power alone? How is it that Ashura, the being full of light, decided to fight his brother for power instead of seeking a peaceful solution to work together if what he wanted was power through union? Why did he not question the idea of a single person having the totality of command?

This would allow the movie to not hinge on Naruto and his fate with his Nine-Tailed Demon Fox (Kurama).

This just proves my initial point.

Instead, Sasuke would become a key player by garnering clues as to who Kaguya is. This would also unearth her plan to place everyone in a dream state (via the Infinite Tsukuyomi genjutsu technique) and drain their chakra. In other words, he would be the egotistical brains of the operation, while Naruto functions as the go-lucky muscle.

What's the point of doing all that if this exact thing ends up happening anyway without having to destroy any character's core? Are they serious?

This would not be different from what's been seen with Iron Man and Captain America, and Batman and Superman.

Brain minimized by the same comic story over and over again, what's the point of seeing a dynamic story repeated hundreds of times in different products? Is the main idea of this theme to make audiences like this guy believe that he possesses some kind of intellect because he can predict a plot he has seen thousands of times before?

According to his page, Renaldo Matadeen, "author" of this abysmal take, focuses on: As a filmmaker and scriptwriter, Renaldo loves to dissect the nuances of stories, especially narratives involving people of colour, minorities, and the socially-displaced. He believes art is a medium to reflect and provoke, and loves engaging in content that evokes this energy. 

So you mean to tell me that Sasuke, a metaphor for the socially displaced people, a survivor of a state-sanctioned genocide, and a revolutionary is somehow better by being stripped of any value inside a story that focused on his struggles, to begin with? That somehow the story would be better if he, a minority, was more complacent with the State that represses him?

#sasuke #sasuke uchiha #pro sasuke #pro uchiha clan

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#konan #the best jutsu design by far

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#pretty boy #sasuke #uchiha sasuke

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Dude relax a little bit, me and that Harry Potter account are not friends. It was all a coincidence that she found my comments funny in your post. Plus, nobody called you any names. As I said, I was just joking with the fact that you are a Sasuke stan, but just because I found your post attacking Hinata fanbase in the tag. You can make any critical you want but just let the fanbase out of this. Hinata fans are not attacking Sakura. The biggest hate against female characters comes from the incel base of the fandom, you are creating a rivalry between two characters that doesn't exist.

And yes, your critical is superficial but so what? As you said they are fictional characters, they don't know we are exist and guess what? THEY DON'T EXIST!!! So enjoy your crying emo kid and chill.

I'm not exaggerating by defending myself from you. If you want to "chill out" the situation how about you just leave? You keep telling me to "relax" yet you do nothing to allow me such a thing, you kept replying to my post and now you send me an ask?

Leave.

Maybe you just need to stop telling women to "relax" whenever they feel attacked, that's not very feminist of you.

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You know, I don’t mind one or two responses filled with insults, I’m used to this sort of behavior from this fandom. You tend to engage in a correctly tagged post, and blame the author for Tumblr’s shitty layout (it’s not our fault Tumblr doesn’t work properly and we are entitled to use the ‘anti’ tag as it’s quite literally ours to use, you can easily ignore it as we ignore the anti-Sasuke posts that are tagged correctly and Tumblr shows), you come throwing insults, calling me names, then you can’t accept the criticism and go running away to your friends?

This is my blog, I write what I like, I was kind enough to allow you to insult me and not escalate it further, yet you keep doubling down on your efforts to defend a 2D character that doesn’t know that you exist (it’s quite more complicated than that, you see, you’re not defending Hinata, you’re defending yourself as you both see yourself in her and feel the need to justify why you like her, so me criticizing her stance in the narrative is criticizing you and your tastes). Let’s just ignore the fact that a pro-Hinata fan (known slave owner and daughter of a brother torturer)  just made a joke about family violence; I would’ve let that slide hadn’t been for your noticeable lack of care on the matter.

Your friend didn’t do you any favors either, so is Hinata a goodlywritten female character or isn’t she? You can go and talk this out on your own. My post was written well enough that it was left alone for five months until you two had a problem with it (what a coincidence two Hinata stans reply to it the same day!).

"I don't think the problem is your criticism" vs. "criticizing female characters in 2024 without thinking they were made like this on purpose by a man is just misogyny".

So which is it? Is there a problem with my criticism or there isn't one, pick your fighter and try to don't contradict yourself in the process challenge.

Your "Also, I never saw anyone saying these characters are well written" is immediately challenged by your friend's "and you're talking about a well-written character." I don't even know what are you arguing about, I literally said that a character's value amidst the narrative relies on how well they represent their theological narrative, and I presented evidence as to why Hinata and Sakura don't matter that much in that front, so them having "depth" isn't necessary.

Oh well, jeez, you two keep going. Take Sasuke out of the narrative and you're left with nothing, there's no goal for Naruto to achieve as the entire manga revolves around him chasing Sasuke down, he had to be taken off The Last for Naruto to concentrate on something that didn't involve him.

You needed to bring Sasuke into the discussion because lord knows you can't go anywhere without putting him down, you know, a genocide survivor. You thought that insulting him would make me go as feral as it did to you that I criticized Hinata, but I'm far smarter than you give me credit for and I have his canon relevance to soothe my wounds.

Criticizing female characters isn't "misogynistic" when such female characters and their fandoms follow patriarchal tropes. I would take more time to express this point to you but I don't see my efforts going anywhere.

You wanna enjoy Tumblr? How about you go do that? You don't see me jumping in pro posts despite them also appearing in the anti-tag, so why would you? Is attention what you seek? You've got it, now you've lost it.

Here, I'll add no tags.

Bye. PS: In the original post, I literally stated that I want to defend Sakura from her attackers, it isn't my fault most of them are inside the Hinata fandom, that's your doing, not mine. If you don't identify with the portion of the fandom that criticizes Sakura in such a manner, why are you defending it?

I spoke about an abstract figure from which you can detach yourself if that's your wish as you don't want to "confront two female characters", so why would you be so triggered when I criticize the portion of the fandom that does? You also defended such an abstract figure from my critique by attacking me personally with insults and allusions to family violence (if you don't want people to take such claims seriously maybe don't use them as a "gotcha!" moment?) and decided to call back up from a person not involved in the matter when I already established I wouldn't be replying further. You wanted this to escalate and continue, you encouraged an aggressive situation where there was none, and when I decided to cut it short you deepened your actions by bringing in another person instead of giving me clear and concise reasons why I was wrong, deciding to attack me instead of my analysis.

Your friend also went as far as to blame me for your insults, deciding that I deserved such treatment for expressing my point of view against, once again, an abstract figure, how can you call yourselves feminists and deem me a misogynist when you abide by the patriarchal weapons you claim to detest?

You know there’s a weird connection between the fandom’s perceived idea of “good writing” and their personal feelings about specific characters. “I like this character, therefore, they’re well written” and viceversa, “I dislike this character, therefore, they’re badly written” –I’ve seen this in many fandoms and with different characters, but there’s no fandom where this is more noticeable than in the “anti Sakura” portion of the audience.

Before we start, let me be clear on something: I don’t personally like Sakura, I don’t consider myself a fan of hers (or her stans, which are just as annoying as Hinata’s), nor I believe she’s the “heroine” of a story that has no room for a character with such status (I’ve said this before, Naruto is the hero and Sasuke is the antagonist -there’s no necessity nor space for anyone else as Sakura is merely the female character with most panel time, yet she doesn’t move the plot forward and she isn’t relevant to the development of other key characters, as most of them completely ignore her existence).

“Likeability” isn’t a determining factor when it comes to labelling a character “well” or “badly” written, such notion relies on subjective factors which makes it impossible to objectively determine the overall value of a character inside a story.

The most important factor to label a character “goodly written” has more to do with how well they represent their theological narrative. For instance, Danzo -who I genuinely despise, is amazingly written, as he spot on tackles the subject of extreme-nationalistic world view, while Itachi -on the other hand, is sort-of all over the place as he subscribes to Danzo’s ideology and defends it with the same actions, yet Kishimoto desperately wanted to keep him inside the “good guys” group, which ultimately failed and took down anything Itachi might have had going for him (besides other inconsistencies as he’s presented as a genius who made nothing but mistake after mistake). There’s a reason why the antagonists are often the ones with the best characterizations, as they aren’t tied to been “morally correct” or “likeable” in order to reflect their thematic plot, which is why the better characters in Naruto happen to be Uchiha (Sasuke, Obito, Madara).

Sakura has no weight inside the plot, as she is mostly used for support of either Naruto and (to a lesser extent) Sasuke, she stands narratively in the same spectrum as most “good” characters of the show, so she’s thematically not much more relevant than the rest of K-11; yet she’s given more depth than many other characters, as she’s a layered character of whom we see both her strengths and flaws, something we can’t say for other characters, such as Hinata.

In the Hyüga princess™’s case, her personality is mostly one dimensional as she is a thematic piece used to deepen Neji’s character. In case you haven’t noticed, she was constructed in opposition to him: She needs to be shy in order for Naruto to take pity on her when Neji insults her (as Neji is mostly arrogant and outspoken), she’s comically bad because Neji is a prodigy, she’s “a freak” (said by Naruto himself) because Neji isn't, she’s a slave owner because Neji is her slave, and so on –the only thing she has that wasn’t built in order to oppose her cousin was her infatuation with Naruto, something she makes a priority.

Everything we “know” about Hinata was mostly fandom-made, Hinata is shy and soft spoken, why is she considered “nice”? We never saw her worrying about anyone but Naruto: She was glad Kiba lost his match and offered Naruto the ointment to treat his wounds, she diminished her cousin’s trauma and endorsed the oppressive system of her clan, we never see her visiting Kiba after he returned from his mission to bring Sasuke back to Konoha (something we see Ino and Sakura do with their respective teammates, and while Hinata was recovering from Neji’s attack, she had enough strength to train and go see the Chünin Exams final stage, at no point is mentioned she was bed-ridden, as Sasuke had enough time to recover from Gaara’s attack before escaping the village), she thought about Naruto’s warm hand seconds after her cousin died and she was the only character not shown to be glad about Shikamaru being alive as we saw her pouting and thinking about how much she wanted to be beside Naruto. Furthermore, is there any scene in which she appears where she’s not thinking or talking about Naruto or where he is not the main focus?

How come a character designed to be nothing more than support (for Neji and Naruto, as her infatuation with him was built in order to have some oppositional force to the idea of “nobody likes him”, as Naruto has an unrequited love for Sakura during the whole duration of the manga) is “better written” than Sakura, who despite herself being also support she has far more thematically ground to move around (Kishimoto explores through her different themes, even if they aren’t relevant to the plot itself, such as romantical obsession, low self-esteem and the decisions/characteristics that are driven by it, female friendship, and few others).

Honest question: It’s her sad background reason enough to like Hinata? Do you truly need a “compelling” backstory in order to claim a character is “better written” than others? Sakura was bullied because she was shy, Hinata -being the Hyüga heir, wasn’t shown to suffer the same fate at the hands of her classmates. Think about it this way, while Sakura was being bullied and had to be helped by Ino, Hinata was being trained by her father and witnessing Hiashi torture her uncle while Neji cried, helpless! –and just a few years later, she used that exact knowledge to insult him! So she’s not really that nice after all!

What is it with the obsession of both fandoms with the idea of “potential” and how, apparently, they were “robbed of it” (what “potential”? When did Hinata even hint at improving her fighting techniques? She was defeated every single time! When did Sakura, who canonically has a smaller chakra pool than both Sasuke and Naruto, have the possibility of surpass literally Ashura and Indra’s reincarnations? Them having more panel time will mean absolutely nothing as we’ll see them doing the exact same thing we already see them do only twice as much. “Potential” is about exploring a latent ability of them, Hinata has none and Sakura’s chakra flux control was properly exploited!).

There’s more to say about this, but I’m honestly tired at this point…

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they just keep going, lmao

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he should have killed those kids

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Only Kishi can write Sasuke right

Anime fillers,novels,fanfictions,doujins...all of them get Sasuke's characterization wrong

There are alot of subtle details to his personality(which makes him more humane) which these amateur untalented writers cannot even comprehend

But fandom will shit on kishi and hype these below average authors because they finally get their self insert fantasy

I've seen some fanfictions that did Sasuke quite right, yet I'll say something here that might be controversial: The current Sasuke (that is, the one that appears in Boruto), isn't as good as the original despite being also written by Kishimoto.

Besides the fact that having a spin-off was never Kishimoto nor Ikemoto's intention (they genuinely thought SP was going to make a new version of the story with Ikemoto's art style, like a reboot of sorts), which forced Ikemoto to come up with a new story and that Kishimoto had to take over; Sasuke's character consists mostly in an exploration of topics/human emotions, Kishimoto used Sasuke as a way of exploring issues that went far beyond his comprehension, seeking possible answers to questions such as "what is one to do in the face of social injustice?" and so on.

Since these conundrums were answered (or left unanswered as in doing so it posed more thematic issues to be explored within an almost exhausted narrative), Sasuke's main core as a character was fulfilled, so extending his "life" beyond his narrative importance inside a product in which he does nothing more than contradict his original purpose (he is no longer the explorative force of any topic, being a benefactor of the protagonist), kills any leftover of his original characterization.

#sasuke #sasuke uchiha #anti boruto #anti naruto ending

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It’s practically 2014 and you guys still don’t know how to google if an article is real or not before giving it 100,000 notes

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For those asking (I've decided to take the pics down)

Kushina asks Minato if he doesn't want to be with her (their relationship is already established) and he immediately denies not wanting to be with her.

Minato admits to Kushina wanting to create the Rasengan to protect her, he even thinks of teaching it to her so she can use it, as it's more powerful the more chakra the user has. Kushina even names the technique.

Minato thinks of Kushina when fighting two jinchuurikis.

Minato admits to Kushina that he doesn't want to lose her, hence the technique.

He admits to Kyuubi and her that he likes strong people and that Kushina is stronger than him. He also claims out loud that he loves her and can't bear to lose her. He also tells her he won't ever leave her and that he'll always be within Kushina to help her with the Kyuubi.

It's confirmed that Kushina taught Minato the Sealing Techniques he knows.

Kishimoto had no reason to make this one-shot focused on Minato and Kushina's relationship, as people voted for a Minato story, yet this is what he chose to do, meaning he was capable all along of writing a "romance" story/chapter. Is this one-shot romance good? Well, debatable...

Lastly:

Vs.

hehe.

Just read Minato's one shot and man I have bad news for the SS and NH fandom that tried to convince themselves that Kishimoto didn't write romance because he sucked at it, lmao.

#anti ss #anti nh #anti sasusaku #anti naruhina #anti naruhina fandom #anti sasusaku fandom

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Just read Minato's one shot and man I have bad news for the SS and NH fandom that tried to convince themselves that Kishimoto didn't write romance because he sucked at it, lmao.

#anti naruhina #anti sasusaku #anti nh #anti ss

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I got Konan but what on earth the filler arcs (which I've never seen) have to do with personality traits.

I wanna say no to at least the latter points, but I forgot who Ben Shapiro is, so. One sec.