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Adrien trying not to laugh at Ladybug's pun

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Not adrien slamming his game character’s head into a wall repeatedly after quitting being chat noir 😭

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The kids are not alright actually

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my favourite part of this cat walker identity discourse is that we have made fun of marinette and adrien not being able to figure each other’s identities out but here we are fighting over the new kid

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TURN UP THE WATERWORKS, WHY DON'T YA?!?!?! 😭😭😭😭

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How am I so suppose to live, laugh, love in these conditions.

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now I gotta wonder: how did Adrien get down that roof

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which one of you asked for a ladrien moon scene. this is your fault.

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This fandom is so hilarious I love it here

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Plagg and Adrien's talk at the end translated

Adrien: You big plan didn’t work, Plagg! Plagg: Are you kidding? It went better than I planned! Goodbye quiet and serious! We’ll finally be back being the super cool cat again! Adrien: And what if I can’t? What if I can’t go back to old Chat Noir? Plagg: Relax! Be yourself and he’ll be back. It’s kitty’s play. Adrien: But does that mean that Chat Noir is who I truly am? Deep down? Plagg: You’re not Chat Noir but you’re not Adrien either. You’re both. You’re the perfect son that is successful in everything you do, but you’re also Chat Noir, who just wants to enjoy life and have fun! One doesn’t exist without the other. And I’m very happy to have both back.

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YOOOOOOOOO THE TRUE SELVES THEORY GOT CANONICALLY SMASHED

To those that want a quick translation right at the end Adrien asked if Chat Noir was who he really was inside. And Plagg said that he was neither and both

He was Adrien who was the perfect son, and Chat Noir, the rebel cat. One couldn't exist without the other. And Plagg was happy to have them both

I really loved all the Plagg and Adrien moments this episode gave us omg

#miraculous ladybug #chat noir #kuro neko

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adrien agreste has pajamas appreciation

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It's clownbug time

ma'am

You are officially clown supreme oh my gosh

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My familia thinks I look a little like Dolores from Encanto so here’s my remake. 

(If there is a live action consider this my resume)

#encanto #dolores #disney #latina

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my favorite characters !! this movie was so sweet ;_;

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So! Me and my brother are watching season 4 of miraculous ladybug, at one point we forgot what had happened in style queen so we decided to rewatch that before watching optigami and I pointed how proud Gabriel looks when audrey compliments Marinette on her hat design

Which made my brother think of an interesting idea. Back in season 1 Marinette was very interested in fashion design, and although that's basically disappeared throughout the show it would've been interesting if that had actually been a plot point and played a role in the show. So In season one we see Marinette win a contest with her hat and Gabriel compliments it and seems impressed by it

What if she didn't just win that competition, what if that had an actual impact on the show and plot? What if they added another episode in season one where Marinette once again does something, maybe wins another contest on fashion design and Gabriel recognizes her as the hat girl. Impressed by what she's done so far and seeing potential he decides to take her on as a apprentice of sorts, she takes on the role of an intern, she helps Gabriel with things while also learning things about fashion. This would open the door to a very interesting dynamic

1. The idea of the hero and the villain both spending time together and learning from each other and forming a bond without even knowing who the other is an very interesting idea and dynamic

2. When the reveal does happen. When they learn who hawkmoth is it actually impacts BOTH characters. Marinette really doesn't give a shit about Gabriel at this point and I know they're going to make her sympathize with Gabriel whenever that reveals does happen but that doesn't make sense. But if we go with this idea it absolutely makes sense. She would've bonded with him by that point and formed a connection with him so both Adrien and Marinette would have conflicted feelings and would be emotionally impacted and it would make sense

3. In every episode where Gabriel finds out who ladybug and chat noir are (before the time is reset or they go back in time and fix things) he goes "my son!! And... Some random girl! Ok!" There's no emotional impact. If he has a connection to BOTH our heroes suddenly it's a lot more emotional and he has more conflicting feelings about it

4. Instead of having Lila keep an eye on Adrien which makes no sense and was also dropped almost immediately after.

We can have Gabriel slowly manipulate marrinete (I've said it before and I'll say it again I would love to see Gabriel be more manipulative and clever) into giving him information on Adrien

5. It helps the ship. Right now the two barely speak to each other or know each other. Adrien going "my love is also my best friend!" Doesn't make sense right now. They're not best friends they barely speak to each other. But if she's always at his house we can have more scenes of them talking, maybe bonding over how cold Gabriel can be, her learning more about Adrien and comforting him when he's sad and him talking to her when she gets stressed. It would give them common ground, stuff to talk about and a opportunity to make them more vulnerable and open up more to each other. So when the reveal does happen them both being happy and excited at finding out who it is makes sense from both of them.

6. We can see more of Gabriel and make him more sympathetic. We mostly see hawkmoth and we rarely get good scenes of Gabriel talking about his grief but if we have Marinette there it could make for some really good scenes of him at least starting to open up a little. Could make him a bit more sympathetic. We can have Marinette question why Gabriel is being so strict with Adrien and have Gabriel explain that while he knows it's hard on Adrien, Adrien is all he has left so he can't help but be strict and over bearing. Making him seem less like an asshole and more sympathetic making him a more complex villain.

The entire idea seemed great and opened up so many doors. But then we had ANOTHER idea!

Let's stick with all of this. Marinette becomes Gabriel's apprentice but let's also say, the episode "wish maker" happened in season 2 instead of the season 4 and it takes a slightly different route. This time Adrien is still trying to figure out what he wants to be but at the end of the episode he's talking to plagg and plagg makes some joke about how Adrien likes sweets and likes making people happy why not combine the two and become a baker? (This can also be plagg trying to set up marrinete and Adrien lol) he thinks about it and the episode ends. Next episode he's asking Tom and Sabine if he can help them out and they feel bad, they know a bit about this kid's home life since Marinette talks to them about it, so them being so caring, decide to give him a safe place after school to relax and just be himself and also teach him how to bake. He helps out around the bakery, cleaning and learning how to bake a bit. This once again provides opportunities for the show

1. It's kind of symbolic that Marinette and Adrien lives are intertwined. Marinette becomes a part of Adrien's life by working for his father, Adrien becomes a part of Marinette's life by working for her parents

2. Once again gives them more to talk about and time to be together

3. At first I think Adrien would still try to be the perfect kid but after a while he feels he can be himself with this family and we see him acting more like chat, we see him making puns, being silly, cracking jokes. Then, again, when the reveal happens it's not such a shock to Marinette cause at that point she can see them being the same person, and she'll actually KNOW Adrien, not the persona he plays when he's out of the mask, but all of Adrien. Making the relationship and reveal way more satisfying when it happens.

4. We Can have Adrien learn and develop and grow more. All he knows is toxicity. All he gets is shit advice. Imagine Tom and Sabine actually giving him advice and giving him a place to be open and vulnerable and learn from them and become a better person both as Adrien and chat noir

All in all I thought this was a great idea and would improve the show so much and if done well would solve the majority of the problems I have with the show. It would stop having Marinette be fucking creepy and putting him on a pedestal and allow her to actually talk to him, get to know him, and be friends with him. We could actually see some development. We could have them learning from the adults around them and we can see how your environment influences who you become. We could see more of Gabriel and actually get some development there. And it would also make for some great scenes.

Me and my brother were watching wish maker and just Imagine these scenes.

Except instead of Luka immidietly resetting the time, say he gets distracted, has to fight something off. They BOTH detransform and hawkmoth sees BOTH of them. He has adopted Marinette as a apprentice and formed a bond with her at this point and he finds out she's ladybug and his son is chat noir. At this realization we see him have a mental breakdown and he starts to question if he should keep doing this. If it's worth it. He loves his wife but is he willing to hurt two children he cares about and also loves? He begins to question this and he starts to realize, no it's not worth it, Luka, unaware of this resets the time.

This makes an impactful scene, makes a sympathetic and complex character, and would've made a very emotional reaction from the audience (for this to work we'd also have to change chat Blanc.)

I don't know I just feel like this would fix the majority of the flaws in the show. What do you guys think?