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anyway, I'm obsessing over this still and the more I think about Lae'zel's specific phrasing when she's trying to get you to fight her, the more insane and convinced of this I get.

Because she definitely uses very possessive language from the jump, but that's usually directed at her being possessive of you/sex with you but the last thing she says to get you to fight her is this:

"Bruise me so that you might possess me" is like a very specific request that sounds absolutely insane even in this context but the way she says its, its like she's begging you. And before this she tells you to prove that you're worthy of her obsession (by fighting her).

And like based on her reactions to either outcome of the duel, it seems like this is very much not a Lae'zel feeling like you need to prove yourself to her sort of thing, but a Lae'zel feeling like you need to prove yourself to githyanki standards so that she's less confused about what she's feeling sort of thing.

And like either outcome you fuck that up for her, because if you lose, she still wants you and realizes she wants to be gentle to you. If you win, she also eventually realizes she wants to be gentle to you, but as mentioned in the original post, it reframes everything your relationship has been so far.

But her specifically asking you to bruise her so that you can possess her is like her basically admitting that she wants you. She wants to please you and take care of you, but she can't unless you hurt her and prove that you're stronger. So she's begging you to do that and justify her desires and let her act on them.

Only you fuck that up either way.

its so fucked how she's basically just begging you for permission to love and she doesn't even know it. And she doesn't even know that she's been doing it the whole time and the duel is what makes her realize it because either you lose and it makes her realize she doesn't want to follow the rules or you win and it gives her permission but also makes her realize that you hadn't needed permission this entire time and have been treating her how you wanted, not how you were supposed to treat her.

Like GOD the girl confesses her love for you without even using the word because she doesn't understand that's what it is. She clearly does not have knowledge on what's going on with her feelings and doesn't know how to deal with it because she doesn't even know the word "love" or to use that to describe it.

I'm just saying I understand githyanki sex rituals now and they fucked with Lae'zel who just wants to be soft and loved in a way that she thinks can't be allowed without someone hurting her which she would never allow anyone to do. Until YOU were the person that she begged to hurt her.

honestly I'm just constantly obsessing over the Lae'zel romance scenes, but like I think I've finally decided which version of the duel (you winning or her) I prefer from just like a character standpoint.

because in the moment I went back and forth with both versions because I wasn't sure, but then ended up staying with the version where I win, and I think that's my preference now because it just feels like a subtler but more intense mind fuck to Lae'zel if you take everything that happened up into this point into account.

and do not get my wrong, i think the version where she wins is absolutely a mind fuck to her for many reasons, and I do love it. like her realizing that you aren't weak and she's like horrified at having hurt you and that very concept confusing her? amazing. we love her for it.

but if you win the duel, I feel like that forces her to recontextualize soo much more if you played the romance how I did at least. because basically any time she told me to submit, i did. I never tried to be the dominant one. I never even really teased her for being soft in certain circumstances or got snarky with her or got upset when she'd be like possessive and demeaning.

and I imagine that the githyanki sex rituals dictate that like the weaker one is submissive one and so obviously Lae'zel was the stronger one your relationship and if you did nothing to dissuade her of that fact then you obviously agree. there's no love or preference in it. There's just like desire and physical need and ability that decides who's doing what.

and I feel like this is backed up by the conversation when you can turn the one night stand into a two night stand, where she's like "you look weak and pathetic when you look at me. you look terrified." And also the fact that you can request that she stay and cuddle you afterward in that scene and she's like, baffled and upset by that suggestion. She calls it pointless grappling and a waste of muscles. like sex is combative to her. If you're not fighting for dominance or directly getting off in that moment, then what's the point? and if you embarrass her by suggesting she's never cuddled before, then she tries to get back at you by pointing out that she killed some kind of creature and you haven't. like do not get it twisted. dominance in sex is like expressly tied to actual strength and weakness outside of sex to her.

So if you win the duel? If you've been unquestioningly letting her dominant you in every sexual encounter and then only to turn around and fucking annihilate her in battle the first time you're actually going head to head, 1v1?

Imagine how much that must fuck with her perceptions what your relationship has been up until this point.

Because now its not even just her realizing that she has feelings for you that she doesn't know how to deal with. Oh no. She's realizing that every single time she's told you to submit and you did, its not because you couldn't dominate her. Its not because you were afraid of her or thought you were weaker than her. Its not because you couldn't flip things around on her. its not just that you were so lustful toward her that you submitted just to be able to have sex. It's because you specifically wanted to be the submissive one and you wanted her to do what she wanted with you.

You coulda kicked her ass at any time. And you never even tried. You never even hinted at it.

and god, the cuddling? You didn't want that just to distract or as some trick to exhaust her? You just wanted to cuddle? you wanted to be soft and hold each other just for the sake of it?

and the fact that its only after the duel that she asks you to be gentler with each other now and she says its the most terrifying thing she's ever done just kinda hammers that home for me. Because she realized it isn’t weakness that makes her (and you) want those things. It’s still scary to ask for though…

Like I'm just saying, if you've just unquestionably submitted to her and then you kick her ass, then she's not just grappling with the fact that she's having feelings. She's grappling with the fact that you've been having feelings this entire time and were much more aware of it than her, and that didn’t make you weak, so maybe it doesn’t make her weak either?

#I'm just saying that Lae'zel tells you she loves you above without ever saying the word #and she also says you showed her freedom #and that's not just freedom from Vlaakith #lae'zel #bg3 #baldur's gate 3

[moghedien]

#pushing daisies #like holy shit I’m never over that #I was watching that then it was airing and it was the greatest show of a generation and FOR WHAT

[moghedien]

anytime you see me post about "Shadowheart" know that before I posted I went back and deleted "Shart" and typed her full name

#every time #I like sometimes am like 'maybe I shouldn't just call her that all the time casually in every post'

[moghedien]

anyway I can't wait to do my durge playthrough and romance Shadowheart so that we can have many romantic dates of just staring across from each other saying nothing because we remember fuck all about our own lives and have nothing to talk about

#we're just two silly goofy amnesiacs with silly goofy problems what could go wrong

[moghedien]

honestly I'm just constantly obsessing over the Lae'zel romance scenes, but like I think I've finally decided which version of the duel (you winning or her) I prefer from just like a character standpoint.

because in the moment I went back and forth with both versions because I wasn't sure, but then ended up staying with the version where I win, and I think that's my preference now because it just feels like a subtler but more intense mind fuck to Lae'zel if you take everything that happened up into this point into account.

and do not get my wrong, i think the version where she wins is absolutely a mind fuck to her for many reasons, and I do love it. like her realizing that you aren't weak and she's like horrified at having hurt you and that very concept confusing her? amazing. we love her for it.

but if you win the duel, I feel like that forces her to recontextualize soo much more if you played the romance how I did at least. because basically any time she told me to submit, i did. I never tried to be the dominant one. I never even really teased her for being soft in certain circumstances or got snarky with her or got upset when she'd be like possessive and demeaning.

and I imagine that the githyanki sex rituals dictate that like the weaker one is submissive one and so obviously Lae'zel was the stronger one your relationship and if you did nothing to dissuade her of that fact then you obviously agree. there's no love or preference in it. There's just like desire and physical need and ability that decides who's doing what.

and I feel like this is backed up by the conversation when you can turn the one night stand into a two night stand, where she's like "you look weak and pathetic when you look at me. you look terrified." And also the fact that you can request that she stay and cuddle you afterward in that scene and she's like, baffled and upset by that suggestion. She calls it pointless grappling and a waste of muscles. like sex is combative to her. If you're not fighting for dominance or directly getting off in that moment, then what's the point? and if you embarrass her by suggesting she's never cuddled before, then she tries to get back at you by pointing out that she killed some kind of creature and you haven't. like do not get it twisted. dominance in sex is like expressly tied to actual strength and weakness outside of sex to her.

So if you win the duel? If you've been unquestioningly letting her dominant you in every sexual encounter and then only to turn around and fucking annihilate her in battle the first time you're actually going head to head, 1v1?

Imagine how much that must fuck with her perceptions what your relationship has been up until this point.

Because now its not even just her realizing that she has feelings for you that she doesn't know how to deal with. Oh no. She's realizing that every single time she's told you to submit and you did, its not because you couldn't dominate her. Its not because you were afraid of her or thought you were weaker than her. Its not because you couldn't flip things around on her. its not just that you were so lustful toward her that you submitted just to be able to have sex. It's because you specifically wanted to be the submissive one and you wanted her to do what she wanted with you.

You coulda kicked her ass at any time. And you never even tried. You never even hinted at it.

and god, the cuddling? You didn't want that just to distract or as some trick to exhaust her? You just wanted to cuddle? you wanted to be soft and hold each other just for the sake of it?

and the fact that its only after the duel that she asks you to be gentler with each other now and she says its the most terrifying thing she's ever done just kinda hammers that home for me. Because she realized it isn’t weakness that makes her (and you) want those things. It’s still scary to ask for though…

Like I'm just saying, if you've just unquestionably submitted to her and then you kick her ass, then she's not just grappling with the fact that she's having feelings. She's grappling with the fact that you've been having feelings this entire time and were much more aware of it than her, and that didn’t make you weak, so maybe it doesn’t make her weak either?

#lae'zel #bg3 #baldur's gate 3 #lae’zel

[moghedien]

If you play as Shadowheart and turn to Selune and then go confront Viconia with Jaheira, Minsc, and Minthara, I feel like that should do enough psychic damage to instantly kill her

Like imagine you kidnapped a kid and raised her in a cult and took all her memories and sent her off on a mission and she somehow managed to not just turn against your religion, not just turn to the religion in direct rivalry with yours, not just defy you and turn to her own goals, not just come back and confront you over it, but she came back with two idiots you used to hang out with over 100 years ago who definitely just came here to shit talk and annoy you, and the most unimportant loser ass Baenre she can find who still has a massive superiority complex

That’s like a targeted hate campaign at this point and should kill her right there. Boo will handle the rest of them.

#to be clear Minthara is a loser and that’s part of her charm #I love her #minthara #minthara baenre #jaheira #minsc #viconia devir #shadowheart #bg3 #baldur's gate 3

[moghedien]

I like how I see people’s posts and comments who were shocked at the way Lae’zel talks to you during the romance scenes, in that she’s like clearly thought up lines of poetry about you or else is coming up with them on the spot sounding like she wrote them beforehand.

honestly I was not surprised by that because I remember like one of the first camp conversations with her where she was nice to me was when I asked her about her studies and she talked on and on about all the time she spent in the library in her crèche. Like she yelled at me to stop asking questions but when I asked her about that she was like “oh ok I’ll talk about that” and her tone softened like she was very eager to talk about it.

Girl was too into reading to not be some kind of literary dork, poetry just makes sense for how she was raised to revere big figures and concepts

#lae'zel #bg3 #baldur's gate 3

[moghedien]

It’s so funny dealing with Lorroakan because I fully convinced the man that I had personally killed Aylin already and she was super dead I’m just very powerful. And I get to camp and all my companions are like “Fucking hilarious lying to the wizard and him falling for it, good job! Now go tell Aylin so we can all go kill him”

like it’s funny that I more or less solved the situation at hand but every single one of them was like “Wizard blood! Wizard blood! Wizard blood!” and like obviously I was still gonna go tell Aylin about it so we can go kill him together, I just wanted to make sure he was sad and miserable first because it is funny they’re all so right and get me so well

#dame aylin #lorroakan #bg3 #baldur's gate 3

[moghedien]

I’m still mad at that duergar from the society of brilliance that was like “the gith (inside the egg) won’t show you affection back” as if there isn’t a gith chewing on my ear through this entire conversation

#and shes gonna fucking kill you once she stops #lae'zel #baldur's gate 3 #bg3

[moghedien]

love that she got mad at me the second we got Minsc back because she knew it was gonna be like this

#the way she was like 'maybe I shouldn't be trying to get you in the same room...' as we got closer to finding him #minsc #jaheira #bg3 #baldur's gate 3 #tav

[moghedien]

the moment that actually has me considering just flat out murdering an NPC for the first time all game

#DONT LIKE THE WAY YOU SAID THAT AT ALL BUDDY #DIE BY MY (Lae’zel’s) BLADE #bg3 #baldur's gate 3

[moghedien]

Baldur's Gate 3 - Jaheira 1/?

#she calls me cub now 😌 #jaheira #baldur's gate 3 #bg3

[moghedien]

had to do it to em

#minthara #baldur's gate 3 #minthara baenre

[moghedien]

Minthara suddenly judging Shart for having mommy superior issues over a DeVir

#I was hoping she’d comment on it lol #minthara #Minthara Baenre #bg3 #baldur's gate 3

[moghedien]

I was taking a picture of Jaheira talking to rats but it actually made me realize that Minthara has no sheets on her bed and she’s the only one who has none….girl what

#don’t tell me it’s because she’s an elf and they don’t sleep #because that rule is barely followed and also Astarion has all kind of shit on his bed #minthara #minthara baenre #bg3 #baldur's gate 3

[moghedien]

The way I’m obsessed with this old lady is unreal

#Jaheira #bg3 #baldur's gate 3

[moghedien]

Take the test

You can only do 12 options in a poll so if you tie choose which one you prefer???

#wizard is the highest at 70% #but the next two are monk and warlock at 65% so they;re close #honestly I expected it to be wizard or monk #surprised warlock is that high even if it is my favorite class