Only here to vent to the void for a minute.
4 years ago my mom died from pancreatic cancer. A couple of months ago, just after I moved and started my new job, my aunt passed away unexpectedly. A couple of weeks ago, I found out that my other aunt has been diagnosed with pancreatic cancer. A few days ago, she was put on hospice.
I donât even know how to put into words how I feel right now. Lots of painful memories flooding back. Knowing that I donât have a motherly figure to turn to when I get married is hard. And even worse, my dadâs wife will probably try to assert herself. I miss my mom, I miss my aunts. I feel like I got gypped to not have my mom for most of my adult life. And I feel selfish for feeling this way which just makes me feel worse. And nobody knows how I feel and how much this is affecting me.
I cannot verbalize anything else at the momentâŠIâm glad to have a place to have been able to verbalize what I did.
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I know this is just going out into the universe and I most likely wonât get any answer from this, but I have a question for my female ADHD / Autistic friends.
Firstly, I have not been diagnosed with either and I try to not diagnose myself, but I do wonder about both of these sometimes. And I donât know exactly how to explain this, so Iâm going to do my best.
Iâve realized that when I meet someone new, sometimes it takes me a while to figure out how to respond to the things that they say. A lot of the time, I just wonât respond because I have no idea how to react. But once Iâve gotten to know them and can figure out how to respond to them, we have pretty seamless conversations. In my revelation about myself, it seems like I am figuring out how they react and then I respond to them however will be the best reaction from them. So it feels like Iâm masking and when I donât know someone, Iâm trying to figure out how to mask. I hope Iâm making sense here.
This revelation came to me because I was recently told by my new boss that I listen, but I donât hear what people say. That it feels like Iâm trying to figure out what to say next. Iâve talked to a lot of people about this and nobody else has agreed on that. So is it because I can have a conversation with them since I know how to respond to them? Is it me masking with them, but not being able to with her? Or could it be the things that Iâm thinking of, but not be related to ADHD or Autism at all?
If you made it through this, thanks for listening! I should really go talk to a therapist đ
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@mennaislost cheerfully Catholic has me blocked so I canât see your replies further than whatâs in this screenshot đ€·đ»ââïž
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reading this makes me realize, if you can be strong I can too.
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but I will ask again, do you experience bliss constantly in that state?
In the state of ignorance? Definitely
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Iâm glad people like you are empathetic enough to understand when someone is hurting and you reach out to them to give them support. Simply reading this comment made me think twice about the same shit
Always!! Iâm unsure of which comment youâre referring to, but people deserve to be treated like human beings. And they shouldnât be bullied just because of their views
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I bet you light up a lot of peopleâs lives. People like you are rare, I hope you know and cherish that about yourself.
Thank you đ„° I always hope that I make others happy, but you never know whatâs going through someone elseâs head
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good morning and happy is it really tuesday tuesday
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I live in Oklahoma and Iâm honestly glad abortion was banned. I used to be pro-choice but I now I realize it was just an excuse for us women to be careless with our bodies and murder innocent humans. A baby doesnât just magically appear, looking back I would have wanted an abortion to absolve me from a sexual mistake. I now, no longer hook up and want to wait until Iâm married to have intercourse again. Women should value their vaginas and only sleep with men who are dedicated to them for life and have financial resources to take care of a family. Pro-life is pro women. It makes women value their bodies more.
I feel very sorry for you and everyone else in OK who can get pregnant.
When I was anti choice, I thought the same as you. That it was just to escape responsibility. Then I actually researched the subject and realized that itâs so much more than that. So letâs break down your ask.
Abortion is not murder no matter how hard you try to say it is. Murder has very specific criteria that abortion does not meet
Next, saying that ZEFs are innocent is just an emotional buzzword anti choicers use to appeal to emotion. Truth is, ZEFs are incapable of being either innocent or guilty. Unless you are talking about innocence in the religious sense, which if you are, then you donât get to force your religion onto others.
Nobody is saying a baby magically appears. ZEFs develop into babies if we continue gestation and birth them. Thatâs not an argument for forcing someone to continue pregnancy.
Cool. You can abstain. Thatâs your personal choice. But you donât get to make that choice for others. Not to mention that married people also get abortions. People with kids also get abortions. Youâre putting this weird stigma on people that get abortions that they just are having hundreds of one night stands and thatâs simply not true.
âWomen should value their vaginasâ this is a really really creepy sentence. A lot of what youâve said already makes you sound like an incel posing as a woman, but that sentence right there especially makes you sound like that. And the follow up of thinking that women need to rely on men for financial support also really makes you sound like an incel posing as a woman. Thatâs also an abusive mindset. Not to mention that people can respect and value their body while having one night stands.
Anti choice is actually anti woman. You guys donât think we, and others who can get pregnant, are capable of making our own decision. You advocate for torturing and enslaving us. There is nothing about that that is pro woman.
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Murder is a legal term, not a moral one đđđ stop trying to twist the narrative so that you donât have to feel bad about torturing and enslaving people.
Great! So weâll make our own decisions, including denying use of our body to others (including ZEFs) even if they die as a result. Glad youâre on board!
I live in Oklahoma and Iâm honestly glad abortion was banned. I used to be pro-choice but I now I realize it was just an excuse for us women to be careless with our bodies and murder innocent humans. A baby doesnât just magically appear, looking back I would have wanted an abortion to absolve me from a sexual mistake. I now, no longer hook up and want to wait until Iâm married to have intercourse again. Women should value their vaginas and only sleep with men who are dedicated to them for life and have financial resources to take care of a family. Pro-life is pro women. It makes women value their bodies more.
I feel very sorry for you and everyone else in OK who can get pregnant.
When I was anti choice, I thought the same as you. That it was just to escape responsibility. Then I actually researched the subject and realized that itâs so much more than that. So letâs break down your ask.
Abortion is not murder no matter how hard you try to say it is. Murder has very specific criteria that abortion does not meet
Next, saying that ZEFs are innocent is just an emotional buzzword anti choicers use to appeal to emotion. Truth is, ZEFs are incapable of being either innocent or guilty. Unless you are talking about innocence in the religious sense, which if you are, then you donât get to force your religion onto others.
Nobody is saying a baby magically appears. ZEFs develop into babies if we continue gestation and birth them. Thatâs not an argument for forcing someone to continue pregnancy.
Cool. You can abstain. Thatâs your personal choice. But you donât get to make that choice for others. Not to mention that married people also get abortions. People with kids also get abortions. Youâre putting this weird stigma on people that get abortions that they just are having hundreds of one night stands and thatâs simply not true.
âWomen should value their vaginasâ this is a really really creepy sentence. A lot of what youâve said already makes you sound like an incel posing as a woman, but that sentence right there especially makes you sound like that. And the follow up of thinking that women need to rely on men for financial support also really makes you sound like an incel posing as a woman. Thatâs also an abusive mindset. Not to mention that people can respect and value their body while having one night stands.
Anti choice is actually anti woman. You guys donât think we, and others who can get pregnant, are capable of making our own decision. You advocate for torturing and enslaving us. There is nothing about that that is pro woman.
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coworker once told me "seeya tomorrow" as i left work. i replied "only if the rope snaps"
Thatâs some dark dark humor there. And I hope that it is just humor and there isnât any truth to it. Hope youâre okay anon!
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Babies have the basic human right to not be killed. Being pregnant is a natural normal process and unless the woman is dying, the baby shouldn't die either. You care about womenâs bodies unless she's in the womb I see. We can't kill people just because the inconvenience our lives. A baby isn't viable after you give birth either, you have to take care of them with your body as well or else they die. So just kill them too? If the abortion argument is that people deserve to die based on their physical development and viability.
RTL is the right to not be killed *unjustly*. There is nothing unjust about denying use of your body to someone else and them dying as a result. What would be unjust is forcing someone to let someone else use their body.
There are no women in wombs. If they were there they would suffocate and die. And completely ignoring us and just calling us a womb is extremely dehumanizing.
You are literally the only one in this conversation who has talked about killing people for convenience. But thanks for proving that youâre not here in good faith, otherwise you wouldnât downplay pregnancy and childbirth by calling it a mere inconvenience.
Did you really just say that an infant isnât viable? đđđ do you know what viable means? Here, Iâll help you out:
No, you donât actually have to take care of them with your body or they die. *Someone* has to take care of them or they die. It does not fall to one specific person like gestation does. And nobody is forced to take care of a child. So why are you trying to force people to take care of ZEFs?
âIf the abortion argument is that people deserve to die based on their physical development and viability.â
Thatâs not our argument. Maybe you should try to actually understand our argument instead of just listening to anti choice propaganda. Hereâs a hint: unlike anti choicers, we are for equal human rights. We donât believe a ZEF is more valuable than the person who is pregnant. And we believe itâs wrong to torture and enslave someone just because they got pregnant.
Next time, maybe try coming up with an argument that isnât so easily refuted/debunked.
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Thank you for the discourse. I used be liberal as well, but now I feel like conservatives respect women more than liberals. To me it seems like they see women as more than sex objects. Liberal Men will tell you that free sex is ok, take these birth control pills and if anything happens just get an abortion! Like ewww, they want you to be non-selctive with your sex life so they can have their turn with you. Conservatives want you to be selective with who you have sex with because they hold a woman's body in higher regard. That's at least why I became conservative. I used to be pro-abortion as well but now I see the logic of it doesn't hold up. I think Ben Shapiro explains the best secular, scientific, and legal definition of why Abortion is murder. Maybe it will change your mind too! I hope this helps. Much love
I used to be conservative until I saw all the harm and republicans do.
Republicans definitely donât respect us. If they did, then they wouldnât be trying to take away our access to human rights. Republicans see us as tools they can use and control. Nothing more. Thereâs a line from a golden age musical that goes something like âa wife is a maid youâve tricked into thinking she has partial ownership over the household.â Thatâs exactly how republicans view us.
You do realize that liberal men want and have children, right? And conservative men will have an affair and then force them to get an abortion (which isnât okay to force).
âThey want you to be non selective with your sex life so they can have their turn with youâ youâre now talking about incels, not liberal men. Incels tend to be conservative, btw.
Conservatives want you to be selective because they donât want a âused, worn out, womanâ and thatâs extremely disgusting. They want someone they see as âpureâ. Itâs creepy and gross.
But again, why are you so obsessed with other peopleâs sex lives? Itâs really really creepy. Just let people sleep with who they want to sleep with. Stop trying to force your ideals onto others. You literally said that we shouldnât try to force others to believe what we believe and the only person trying to do that here is you.
Youâre going to hold Ben Shapiro in high regard here? đ the man thy canât satisfy his wife and uses pseudoscience and twists things to make it seem like heâs right? But if you actually look at his words against facts, his argument dissolves in an instant. That Ben Shapiro?
I already gave you the definition of murder and proved how abortion isnât murder. But it would seem youâre not open to listening to facts. I hope someday youâll open your eyes to the truth!
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That weird "hooking up is bad for women" asker is giving me serious radfem misandrist hysteria vibes more than any incel crap. Like just the way they're talking about "valuing the vagina"? How men are somehow the villains even in situations where women are willingly and knowingly seeking out casual sex? Yeah, that's radfem 101.
Anyway, sex releases good endorphins and relieves stress, it's a fun and healthy activity. So regardless, that person is just plain weird and incorrect.
You are 100% correct in everything youâre saying. I went to their page the first day to see if anything confirmed the hunch that they were an incel posing as a woman and there were so many things tagged as radfem that they retweeted
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I live in Oklahoma and Iâm honestly glad abortion was banned. I used to be pro-choice but I now I realize it was just an excuse for us women to be careless with our bodies and murder innocent humans. A baby doesnât just magically appear, looking back I would have wanted an abortion to absolve me from a sexual mistake. I now, no longer hook up and want to wait until Iâm married to have intercourse again. Women should value their vaginas and only sleep with men who are dedicated to them for life and have financial resources to take care of a family. Pro-life is pro women. It makes women value their bodies more.
I feel very sorry for you and everyone else in OK who can get pregnant.
When I was anti choice, I thought the same as you. That it was just to escape responsibility. Then I actually researched the subject and realized that itâs so much more than that. So letâs break down your ask.
Abortion is not murder no matter how hard you try to say it is. Murder has very specific criteria that abortion does not meet
Next, saying that ZEFs are innocent is just an emotional buzzword anti choicers use to appeal to emotion. Truth is, ZEFs are incapable of being either innocent or guilty. Unless you are talking about innocence in the religious sense, which if you are, then you donât get to force your religion onto others.
Nobody is saying a baby magically appears. ZEFs develop into babies if we continue gestation and birth them. Thatâs not an argument for forcing someone to continue pregnancy.
Cool. You can abstain. Thatâs your personal choice. But you donât get to make that choice for others. Not to mention that married people also get abortions. People with kids also get abortions. Youâre putting this weird stigma on people that get abortions that they just are having hundreds of one night stands and thatâs simply not true.
âWomen should value their vaginasâ this is a really really creepy sentence. A lot of what youâve said already makes you sound like an incel posing as a woman, but that sentence right there especially makes you sound like that. And the follow up of thinking that women need to rely on men for financial support also really makes you sound like an incel posing as a woman. Thatâs also an abusive mindset. Not to mention that people can respect and value their body while having one night stands.
Anti choice is actually anti woman. You guys donât think we, and others who can get pregnant, are capable of making our own decision. You advocate for torturing and enslaving us. There is nothing about that that is pro woman.
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Hey thanks for responding. My first question is what is a ZEF? Second how is telling women that they should wait for a man who deserves to have sex with her make me an incel? Don't incels believe they should be able to fuck any women they want? Hooking up is not good for women, because we are the sex that gets pregnant. Why give up your vagina to some random guy who doesn't deserve it? Wouldn't it be pro-women to say that you deserve a man who loves you, to have sex with you. Not some random guy who sees you as a sex object and forgets your name after one night? How is that pro-women? Hooking up only benefits men and makes them see you as a sex object. Women are worth more than a one night stand, they deserve a man who wanted them for more than sex. Also, saying married people and people with children are pro-child sacrifice doesn't make the child sacrifice any better.
Iâm more than happy to answer!
ZEF stands for zygote, embryo, or fetus.
It wasnât that you want people to abstain until marriage (which is creepy obsession in and of itself), it was that you said they should âvalue their vaginaâ. And implying that we need men to financially support us didnât help and is an abusive mindset. Incels are cis men who hate women because nobody will sleep with them. They think itâs their right to have sex and women are denying them that right.
Hooking up can be great for us. Even though we can get pregnant doesnât mean that hooking up is automatically a bad thing. Some people enjoy it, some donât. Why are you so obsessed with other peopleâs sex lives? Itâs really creepy. Your continued use of treating us like a vagina is continuing to make you sound like an incel posing as a woman.
Whatâs wrong with women having sex, just using that person for sex and then forgetting their name and that they ever existed? Why do you think that itâs only men who do that? And whatâs wrong with women not caring if a man does that? And why is it any of your business? Yes, itâs extremely anti woman to think that only men enjoy one night stands and then forget about the other person. Itâs anti woman to think that having a one night stand is a bad thing for people who arenât you. Itâs anti woman to say that they arenât âvaluing their vaginaâ or are just âgiving up their vaginaâ. Itâs extremely anti woman to police our sex lives.
I didnât say anyone was pro child sacrifice. What a strange strawman argument
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Oh, itâs disgusting and super misogynistic. If they want to live that way, thatâs great! Thatâs their personal choice. But they shouldnât expect everyone to want what they want.
This belief stems from white patriarchal Christianity. Itâs meant to keep white cishet men in control and to keep others dependent on them. Itâs abusive. Itâs not healthy. And itâs scary that some cis women agree with this
I live in Oklahoma and Iâm honestly glad abortion was banned. I used to be pro-choice but I now I realize it was just an excuse for us women to be careless with our bodies and murder innocent humans. A baby doesnât just magically appear, looking back I would have wanted an abortion to absolve me from a sexual mistake. I now, no longer hook up and want to wait until Iâm married to have intercourse again. Women should value their vaginas and only sleep with men who are dedicated to them for life and have financial resources to take care of a family. Pro-life is pro women. It makes women value their bodies more.
I feel very sorry for you and everyone else in OK who can get pregnant.
When I was anti choice, I thought the same as you. That it was just to escape responsibility. Then I actually researched the subject and realized that itâs so much more than that. So letâs break down your ask.
Abortion is not murder no matter how hard you try to say it is. Murder has very specific criteria that abortion does not meet
Next, saying that ZEFs are innocent is just an emotional buzzword anti choicers use to appeal to emotion. Truth is, ZEFs are incapable of being either innocent or guilty. Unless you are talking about innocence in the religious sense, which if you are, then you donât get to force your religion onto others.
Nobody is saying a baby magically appears. ZEFs develop into babies if we continue gestation and birth them. Thatâs not an argument for forcing someone to continue pregnancy.
Cool. You can abstain. Thatâs your personal choice. But you donât get to make that choice for others. Not to mention that married people also get abortions. People with kids also get abortions. Youâre putting this weird stigma on people that get abortions that they just are having hundreds of one night stands and thatâs simply not true.
âWomen should value their vaginasâ this is a really really creepy sentence. A lot of what youâve said already makes you sound like an incel posing as a woman, but that sentence right there especially makes you sound like that. And the follow up of thinking that women need to rely on men for financial support also really makes you sound like an incel posing as a woman. Thatâs also an abusive mindset. Not to mention that people can respect and value their body while having one night stands.
Anti choice is actually anti woman. You guys donât think we, and others who can get pregnant, are capable of making our own decision. You advocate for torturing and enslaving us. There is nothing about that that is pro woman.
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