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niobiumao3 · 7 hours
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Ventress: Clock's ticking. *leaves*
Hunter: wrecker you don't have a detonator on you, do you?
Wrecker: no?? <checks> yeah not me
Crosshair: she's probably just crazy
Hunter: yeah guess so
<CL's Hello Bitches plays in the distance>
I do love that the harbinger as a title implies that like Ventress is going to subtly warn them about what's to come as an omen but instead she slaps them across the face and says in extremely clear words YOU ARE GOING TO BE ATTACKED HERE AND YOU NEED TO LEAVE and the batch still goes "I can't hear suddenly idk" and doesn't leave.
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niobiumao3 · 7 hours
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I found an interesting thread on twitter about how fandom puts the well- being of fictional characters above that of actual abuse victims and I wanted to share it cause some of y'all really need to read
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niobiumao3 · 8 hours
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So. I think Omega is force sensitive with the potential to be trained because otherwise why even bring it up? And I think that it will be relevant that the boys now, and especially Hunter, now know that when she doesn't.
But I don't think that we're actually going to see Omega leave to get trained. I think she'll consider it. She might even decide to do it. But I think in the end she'll choose to stay with the Batch. Look at the rest of the show - its all been about sticking through tough times with your community, loyalty and belonging with your family, the efforts to bring the batch back together.
Specifically I'm thinking of Tribe too. Gungi was our last featured force sensitive character, and he gets returned to Kashyyyk because "Jedi or not, he's still a child. He needs his people." We get that line from the elder, "When a young one leaves the trees weep, but when they return the trees sing." It doesn't sound like a show that eventually plans to have Omega leave her family that she's tried so hard to stay with.
(And isn't it interesting with that quote that the tree Ventress sends her to is the "weeping" maya tree?)
Much like the first two seasons push to reunite the family fall flat if Tech is dead for good and we never see the family together, Omega leaving in the end would utterly obliterate most of the central theme that the first two seasons spent all that time setting up. It turns from a family fighting to stay together to a story about how Omega really needed to separate from them all along for everyone's own good. It's a complete dissonance from every other theme that we've seen, and I just don't think they set up that you need to stick together with your people to survive just to use season 3 to knock it all back down and say that actually isolation and permanent separation from your loved ones is the way to go.
So why introduce the idea? Because for Omega's choice to stay to have any weight, she needs a viable alternative that she could have chosen. She needs to see another path at all, maybe even needs to think she's going to choose it at first, but I think that in the end she's going to return to the batch and to the family that she's grown so much with.
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niobiumao3 · 9 hours
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mace windu is amazing, he's the best, he has a purple lightsaber, the master of the order, the master of vaapad, he tried diplomacy with droids, he was going to kill palpatine, he's as bald as his commander, he's played by samuel l jackson in the movies, he's fucking hilarious, he trained master depa billaba, he's actually nice to jar jar, if you hate him you simply are stupid, thanks, have a nice night
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niobiumao3 · 9 hours
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Early days of the batch.
I had to draw something from their clone wars arc.
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niobiumao3 · 9 hours
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how i sleep knowing tech is gonna be revealed to be alive and all of the bad batch is gonna live and raise omega who is gonna grow up safe and sound and happy
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niobiumao3 · 10 hours
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an indirect kiss?
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niobiumao3 · 10 hours
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niobiumao3 · 11 hours
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They never give you an option to name the cub but in my heart this is Absolute-ly (haha) canon.
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niobiumao3 · 12 hours
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it's so interesting to see people weighing anchor with Ventress and Crosshair after he helps her on the Marauder, but to some of these same people TechPhee despite 4 episodes of direct interactions is 'rushed'.
almost like there's a fundamental difference. wonder what it could be!
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niobiumao3 · 13 hours
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Batcher is an official service hound now, she's a good good girl
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niobiumao3 · 14 hours
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friends
brothers (gn)
countrymen (also gn)
I present….
Socks Tech would wear
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niobiumao3 · 14 hours
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*through sweat, blood, and tears* YOU WILL NOT EDIT THE FIRST DRAFT AS YOU GO. YOU WILL NOT EDIT THE FIRST DRAFT AS YOU GO. YOU WILL NOT EDIT THE FIRST DRAFT. AS YOU GO.
YOU. WILL. NOT. EDIT. THAT. FIRST. DRAFT.
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niobiumao3 · 14 hours
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STAR WARS: THE BAD BATCH | 3.09 THE HARBINGER
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niobiumao3 · 15 hours
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The Bad Batch in hats!
I saw ep 3.4 and thought... "wait, why is Crosshair in a ball cap actually fire??" And I just went from there!
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niobiumao3 · 17 hours
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I'm back y'all 😹
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Baby yoba and the metal man
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niobiumao3 · 17 hours
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Like, here's the thing
Wolffe's denial of Rex in Extraction is a direct mirror of Cross' denial of the Batch in Kamino Lost. That is the point. They are offered a chance to do right and change, and turn it down, but also let their friends go (in Cross' case by covering for them and claiming they're all dead). It's a sign of hope for them amidst them doing objectively Bad Things. They can (and as we know, will) turn it around.
This doesn't work in the presence of magical brainwashing. That means no one made their own choice to not be the thing the Empire wanted them to, they were True and Good All Along. That's not the plot--the plot is, you can be railroaded into bad shit, but given a chance to turn that around, do you?
Amnesia and scifi brainwash don't work in that plot. it's a non sequitur.
The point is, Omega did NOT give up on Crosshair, Mayday didn't give up on Crosshair, and their belief in him helped him save himself. Rex does the same for Wolffe, we know this from Rebels. They were saved from bad choices they made as well as ones forced on them. If the choices are just forced on someone, if they have no agency in the decision, it's...it's not the same thing. The impact isn't there.
Okay but here's my main narrative issue with CX-2 as Tech within the canon context: it utterly undermines Crosshair's plot and goes in the face of the entire TBB throughline of agency and choosing to do and be the right thing even if it's hard.
Crosshair's plot--and the plot of all the regs--is one of agency after moral injury. The chip made them do horrible shit, but then its influence fades (or it's removed) and they're left with the reality of having done something they thought was right but know, deep down, was not. And this is horrifying, and breaks all of them in various ways. There's a series of contrasts being laid out in this, which Tech as a CX simply doesn't work with.
Those who made it out:
Cody, Howzer, and Crosshair all save themselves from it over the course of their personal plots. Rex is saved by Ahsoka but left with the emotional scars and determination to save others from it.
Those who are trapped:
Wolffe, a good man convinced he's doing the right thing. Other regs like Wolffe. And then we have the CXes.
The CXes being magically brainwashed, unlike Wolffe and the other regs who are caught by the moral injury of their chips, clashes with this and simply doesn't fit. But what does fit is the type of cult indoctrination and brainwashing we see in our own world. People who are highly vulnerable being targeted by such groups and recruited. That is a similar trap that Wolffe is in, he's just (in effect) recruited himself.
Why 'Scifi Brainwashing' the CXes is a Bad Plot
Scifi-magic-brainwashing is no different than a fully active control chip. It's the same thing, and the whole POINT of S2 was how those were failing or wearing off (or being removed). Why would the plot just roll back on that? 'Well now it's some torture horror method and not a biotech chip'. Okay why not just say Hemlock figured out how to make the chips work again? Hemlock's entire elevator pitch in The Summit was that he'd found a way to NOT NEED fancy biotech brainwashing. That was his point, that he'd found a way to 'convince' them instead. So Scifi-magic-brainwashing doesn't make sense here plot wise, and while Bad Writing is always an option, much of the season has been top tier. I don't think they'd negate their own plot so thoroughly.
What IS CX Conditioning
What Hemlock seems to be doing is more traditional cult indoctrination and brainwashing. You put people in a Situation--this probably does involve torture but that's not the same as mindflayers and control chips--and now you're testing their resilience (emotional AND physical). Conforming becomes a choice, and is once again about agency and deciding to do the right thing. This kind of decision is a common theme in TBB, and is undermined by magically forcing people to be something they're not. I grant you, the choice might be 'convert or die', but since Cross was resisting and still alive and not even completely physically wrecked we can assume it's survivable. Awful, but you can get through it.
And a traditional conditioning would fail on Crosshair precisely because he saved himself from the aftermath of his chip already. He slowly realized what was happening, what he was part of. He finally broke free by killing Nolan, a sort of reverse of the situation with Caleb/Kanan. The regs being conditioned, though, they've not already had this breakthrough, they're much more vulnerable to choosing the CX route. Crosshair has been through this rodeo, he knows it's all bullshit.
What about Tech?
Tech, IMO, wouldn't be susceptible to it either; I guess you can argue he might, but I think that gets into some ugly stereotypes about autistic people being amoral and morally gray and etc. Simply put, there's no reason for Tech to be vulnerable to cult brainwashing just because he didn't have to fight it off the first time. I know some people have tried to push back on this with 'anyone CAN be brainwashed' but like...okay we're back to, why would Tech choose that. That's the thing here--what motivation would Tech have for falling to that beyond 'make the torture stop'? Our mans walked on a busted femur for HOW long, defeated 3 clones with one? And this person would fall to traditional cult mentality? I don't know that I can agree on that.
Then there's the added narrative complications:
Tech would have revealed Pabu the second Omega escaped if he was a CX
...unless he had amnesia, which would fit with him being vulnerable to CX conditioning but now we have CX and amnesiac Tech??
How is this being resolved in 4 episodes, given we know the earliest they can reclaim him is ep 10/11 because we see CX-2 as part of the Pabu invasion?
Sure, they can magically fix him somehow (feel free to choose your preferred method) but now we're back to, this flies in the face of the TBB plot of choice and living with what you actually chose to do, as well as what you were forced to do. It negates Cross' plot, which was a 3 season journey of repairing himself. Now we'd repair Tech from the same thing in one episode? I don't see that happening.
Anyways. This is a perfectly fun plot for fics and the like, where we can fudge bits of the story, stretch it out like taffey, imagine different options. But the canon has severe runtime constraints which would hamper this kind of plot without hurting other narrative threads they've established. You'd need a good season to really lay out a Tech-CX-2 plot which wouldn't conflict with Cross's own plot. They don't have a season, they have 6 episodes max, probably less.
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