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[patbimagines]

So this is gonna be a long one, but I’m gonna do my best to address everything brought up here. Take what you will from this.

I’ll move past the first topic since I already talked about it prior, but I do want to make one correction about the anti-zadr callout. again, not the main point of this post so i’ll keep things brief;

I want to clarify that this was about my blog description being featured in a section of said callout that was just screenshots of people’s dni banners and such in order to prove that antis were being ‘discriminatory’. This was my only involvement in that callout, and there was nothing in it about doxxing. I’m not sure if this is something that happened later on down the line but I had no part in anybody being doxxed and this is the first i’ve heard of it.

yeah it was aggressively worded but I was 15 at the time, nobody is normal at 15.

as for the “patb nsfw artists my despised”, this was directed towards one infamous artist rather than all of them. context of this was toontownwarner/brainsister added a reaction meme onto a post, and another artist reblogged from him with a redraw of it. if you don’t know what the issue with ttw is, here’s the gist:

there’s no screenshot of the post itself because they deleted their rb when informed and added their drawing on another reblog instead, (which is good! nothing against them for making a mistake) but here’s proof that this happened at all

(pronouns are outdated at this point, I apologize). Was it a generalization? Yes. this wasn’t intended to be posted publicly, or even leave my friend group. maybe if this were something I posted on tumblr, I’d understand but there’s no reason I can’t use hyperbole around my friends. Not to mention this screenshot was unrelated to the conversation it was placed with in your post

i’m sorry to hear that your friend received those anons, but nobody in this group was responsible for them. death threats are obv a very serious accusation and I wanted to be sure there was a basis for those claims. my partner’s post that you used as an ‘educated guess’ however was actually made because of the shitty anons they got, which i included in a previous post, as well as that claim of being “notorious for sending death threats” which was months before this happened.

we do not know who the person sending the accusatory anons was, and i was pretty out of the loop for that whole thing, but I am curious about what they said. if you’re comfortable sharing the screenshots privately it would be a big help. also just to set the record straight, we do not agree with their statement on nsfw spaces, and having a separate tag for that content would be a really good solution.

I will say, I appreciate you adding a section on the crap that Maddie/Ruby has pulled. It’s been a long time coming, and I wish I could have provided more for that part. However, I think including that vent post was in poor taste, especially without asking. I know the point of this was to call us out, but when you want to discuss someone who’s shown predatory behavior, it’s generally. Not a good idea to include stuff from people who were affected by said person without their consent.

I realize how it comes off when we act aggressively about adult content being in the main tag, but considering nearly everyone mentioned has had bad experiences with being exposed to nsfw/kink art as minors- Ruby being the major reason why- we’re understandably defensive about it. Once again, we think having a tag completely separate from the main one is a great idea, and it’s one i’d like to push for.

I really think having a one on one conversation in dms or on discord would be beneficial for everyone so we can come up with a solution that works for everyone and prevent things like this happening in the future. If you’re up for that, let me know.

By request, here is the compiled evidence of people in the patb fandom being shitty. I didn't really have any plans to post this because I'm not sure what good it would do, but people will continue to deny these events ever taking place if I don't. Read it or don't.

[patbimagines]

Yeah it's Bri LMAO I mean I haven't exactly went lengths to conceal that this burner is me anyway and I only made it to look at the PaTB tag from time to time cause I don't have a Tumblr anymore.

The rumours are very much real, I will not hide that at the time of them coming to my attention I have overreacted about them, I was off my medication and it triggered a major episode in me, trust me it's embarrassing to have a mental breakdown so publicly, I'm seeking help for it. Anyway, they're real, I got added to a server by a mutual and it turned out it was from the group of people currently anoning you. I left as soon as I noticed that cause I was uncomfortable and I knew they'd probably be uncomfortable with my presence too. Yet a couple hours later I get a angry DM from said mutual yelling at me about not telling them that I've harrassed people online and regretted ever being associated with me followed by a series of screenshots of someone making false accusations about me. I've already addressed those so whatever.

Also yeah, I was a completely different person at 17 than I am now. Might seem impossible but guess what, during your teenage years you're gonna mature very fast. That's normal. I wasn't uncomfortable with the concept of PaTB nsfw i was uncomfortable with the specific post I found which was graphic fetish art. I'll spare you the details. Don't know the context= don't put words in my mouth LOL.

I wanted to get that off my chest and out in the public for a while and I don't have a Tumblr to do it anymore, this exact situation was what prompted me to delete it, it's better for my mental health ^^ I hope that clears things up

Oh thank you for coming forward and elaborating, i appreciate it

#not imagines #I hope you’re doing better now this really sucks

[patbimagines]

about the recent stuff thrown around about my friends on @patbimagines​. i would appreciate if you all didn’t put words into their mouths without showing receipts. when have there ever been death threats. when have we ever harassed anyone about porn on the main tag. when have we ever expressed that you lot can’t draw porn. we would love to see proof of these things happening. but right now, what it seems like is a bunch of you are throwing fairly baseless accusations around about a bunch of minors and at the time minors who just simply don’t wanna see uncensored/unhidden porn for a show with a target audience of kids/families on the main tag, which, by the way, is a perfectly reasonable ask.

and, i implore you all to look at the definition of harassment,

and reevaluate how this definition relates to you and your position. are you the ones being aggressively pressured or intimidated here?

#yeah i’m putting it here too #I haven’t exactly kept my main a secret who give a shit

[patbimagines]

ngl you are doing some good work out here telling people to be normal in the main tags, I’m not even in the patb fandom anymore (for… these exact reasons.) but I salute you o7 godspeed

thank you it’s not an easy job but it’s my job 🫡

#you’re so brave for this anon #not imagines

[patbimagines]

As far as I know, no one thinks they were harassing patb people over nsfw. Not sure where that rumor started, or if it even exists. Only issue is that they aren't a fan of it and are friends with you guys :) Which only matters if they're out looking for 18+ servers to join when your group has been blacklisted from most of them.

Don't worry. You'll get whatever proof I have whenever I finish compiling it. You've spent a lot of time being insufferable after all, so sorry if it takes a bit of time to organize.

We did it!

#also that’s just what their tweet said lmao as i said before I don’t know what went down for that burner to be made #also they’re like 19 now #if they want to join a group of people their own age that’s literally Normal #18+ servers don’t necessarily mean nsfw-centric

[patbimagines]

Crazy but your actions still have consequences. If you act a certain way when you're 17 people aren't going to suddenly forget everything you ever did when you turn 18.

yeah sure ig, but also why is expressing personal discomfort with nsfw something that requires consequences? i looked more into this and found out they were being accused of ‘harassing people for drawing porn’ and that burner was mainly using that old tweet to deflect the argument to be “well actually you said this so you’re not that innocent” instead of providing real proof that they were supposedly harassing people. kind of like how you’ve deflected this argument to be about something that happened on a completely different platform instead of showing me that proof you said you had of death threats and harassment.

#or are you just too scared to send images bc that means coming off anon #here’s what to expect during your off anon message 👻😈👹👺💀👽

[patbimagines]

I don't think anyone is in a fight with them to begin with. But it's a pretty normal assumption that someone isn't going to change their opinion so drastically in just one year. Why would they lie about that?

see when you’ve been an adult for a little while you start to mature

#not imagines

[patbimagines]

about the recent stuff thrown around about my friends on @patbimagines​. i would appreciate if you all didn’t put words into their mouths without showing receipts. when have there ever been death threats. when have we ever harassed anyone about porn on the main tag. when have we ever expressed that you lot can’t draw porn. we would love to see proof of these things happening. but right now, what it seems like is a bunch of you are throwing fairly baseless accusations around about a bunch of minors and at the time minors who just simply don’t wanna see uncensored/unhidden porn for a show with a target audience of kids/families on the main tag, which, by the way, is a perfectly reasonable ask.

and, i implore you all to look at the definition of harassment,

and reevaluate how this definition relates to you and your position. are you the ones being aggressively pressured or intimidated here?

#^ #no death threats? *megamind

[patbimagines]

Bri: I've never said anything about not liking nsfw

Some guy: Here's you saying it makes you physically sick

You and Bri: This is harassment

Evidence is harassment now. Got it.

idk all the details of whatever fight y’all had with them but like that’s a tweet from when they were 17 and they said themselves that their opinions on nsfw have changed, and some guy who was too scared to post it on a real account thought it was still relevant as a ‘gotcha’.. so far the only evidence y’all have shown me is kids being uncomfortable with porn

#not imagines

[patbimagines]

So they're against harrasment? Remember when they made a new twitter burner account just to dig up someone's post from A year and a half ago and harrass them when they tried to distance themselves from the situation? 😐

22 year old patb fans finding the most inconsequential reason to fight with children

#also how does the twitter part of the fandom of all people know how to filter their horny stuff better than the tumblr part #not imagines

[patbimagines]

That's not an unrelated person who agreed with you, love. If Steve wants to go around spreading rumors and "warning" people to stay away from artists he doesn't like idk what you're expecting. People aren't going to like him very much. Again, if you could be honest for two seconds it would really help your case.

show me that proof you were talking about before

#tell me about those death threats man #until you do I don’t think i can be the dishonest one here

[patbimagines]

btw dragging unrelated people into this because they agreed with me doesn’t exactly make your case better jsyk. i’m sure your evidence is some really wicked stuff though.

Mild criticism such as death threats, harassment and wild accusations. If you guys ever approached things normally like you say you do there wouldn't be a problem. But at this point people are so tired of your bs that no one really cares what you have to say. Ya'll have harassed people that have kept their art behind paywalls and shit (don't worry. I have proof). You don't care what goes in the tag. You get off on policing other people's content to feed your own sense of moral superiority and saying it's to keep the tag safe is just an excuse that looks better at face value. A lot of people have already stopping buying it. You'd be better off just saying you dislike patb nsfw art and people who make it. At least people could respect you for being honest for once.

yeah man i’d love to see that proof and while we’re talking about accusations and harassment here’s some of the shit my partner has been sent for making posts that say essentially the same thing that I did. not really sure what you have to show me but mocking someone’s triggers isn’t a great look for you

also the anon I received months ago who claimed they were “notorious for sending death threats” still hasn’t followed up on that soo. beginning to think there’s not much weight to that one anyhow. but then again I haven’t seen your proof go ahead and wow me.

not to mention when the actual minors who have stated being uncomfortable with more risque content not being properly filtered have been dismissed or told to stay out of ‘adult spaces’ (which is the tag of a kids cartoon ig). nobody gives a shit if you draw that but you won’t get it drilled into your thick skulls that there’s a time and place for it and that public fandom tags are generally not the place.

#included discord screenshot bc i do not need anyone thinking that’s me and going after him #not imagines

[patbimagines]

Mild criticism such as death threats, harassment and wild accusations. If you guys ever approached things normally like you say you do there wouldn't be a problem. But at this point people are so tired of your bs that no one really cares what you have to say. Ya'll have harassed people that have kept their art behind paywalls and shit (don't worry. I have proof). You don't care what goes in the tag. You get off on policing other people's content to feed your own sense of moral superiority and saying it's to keep the tag safe is just an excuse that looks better at face value. A lot of people have already stopping buying it. You'd be better off just saying you dislike patb nsfw art and people who make it. At least people could respect you for being honest for once.

yeah man i’d love to see that proof and while we’re talking about accusations and harassment here’s some of the shit my partner has been sent for making posts that say essentially the same thing that I did. not really sure what you have to show me but mocking someone’s triggers isn’t a great look for you

also the anon I received months ago who claimed they were “notorious for sending death threats” still hasn’t followed up on that soo. beginning to think there’s not much weight to that one anyhow. but then again I haven’t seen your proof go ahead and wow me.

not to mention when the actual minors who have stated being uncomfortable with more risque content not being properly filtered have been dismissed or told to stay out of ‘adult spaces’ (which is the tag of a kids cartoon ig). nobody gives a shit if you draw that but you won’t get it drilled into your thick skulls that there’s a time and place for it and that public fandom tags are generally not the place.

#we already had the bar set so low in 2015 with stephen’s galaxy and undertail #this is not a new concept #not imagines #also my bf’s offer to donate money still stands if you’re interested

[patbimagines]

I think you should get to send these fools into orbit

ty anon the reading comprehension on here is piss poor <3 get well soon everyone

[patbimagines]

couldn’t reply directly to that last reblog bc they have my main blocked for some reason lol anyway y’all gotta stop playing dumb, you know full well i’m not getting worked up over characters looking at each other, and to be honest most of y’all in this fandom should re-examine how you react when people bring up concerns like this. i just got one or two people mocking my initial post which y’know weird way to go about it but i’ve seen people get genuinely harassed and sent anons for calling out weird behavior and it’s like. most of y’all are in your early to mid twenties not being able to handle mild criticism, not even of the content itself, but how you handle posting it and it’s a little sad tbh. like if people say “hey, that’s probably a little too much for this tag that a lot of younger fans frequent” and your response ranges from rolling your eyes at it to accusing them of puritan culture (not what happened here but something that i have seen a lot in this fandom) that’s probably something you should work on.

TL;DR you guys could be a bit more normal about where you put your horny rats

#probably the last post i’m making about this on here. this is a dead gimmick blog i just put this here bc its patb related #umm bye #not imagines #patb

[patbimagines]

mouse sex on my dash

#yeah by definition that is what looks like. do you know what words mean #also it’s on your ““spicy”” blog. the one you have porn on #if you wouldn’t put it on your main blog why would you drop it in the main tag no community filters no nothing #not imagines #sorry people who still follow me this just needed to be said #we let this shit go unchecked way too much in here i gotta say something

[patbimagines]

mouse sex on my dash

#can we stop putting softcore p*rn in the main tag. I think that would be good #pinky and the brain #not imagines