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plan-d-to-i · 8 hours ago
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We all heard the wwx wears Gusu colours and lwj just "wei ying,....., ,,.. in white and..... , , , blue.......my colours" and just looses his mind
But have you considered lwj wearing black and red and wwx absolutely foaming at the mouth going batshit insane
ahhh I haven't considered it, but I'm considering it now!!! WWX would totally just try to make up some silly role-play and fail spectacularly bc how can he focus w LWJ looking like THAT in front of his salad.
♥️👄♥️.
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plan-d-to-i · 8 hours ago
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I'm laughing so hard re-reading this part wondering how much of a crush Lan Wangji already had on Wei Wuxian at this point and exactly how he felt to have the object of his affection suddenly warp himself around him :
Wei Wuxian: “I said, ‘Fine!’, stopped fleeing, and threw myself at him head-on. I caught him, wrapped my arms around him, and we tumbled outside of the Cloud Recesses’ walls!”
“…”
“So both of us landed outside the boundaries of the Cloud Recesses together! The fall was so hard I saw stars dancing before my eyes.”
Already dazed, Nie Huaisang said, “He didn’t struggle free?”
“Oh, he tried,” Wei Wuxian replied. “But my hands and feet were deadlocked around him. He couldn’t have escaped if he wanted to. There was no way for him to climb up from my body, and he was stiff as a board. I told him, ‘Now what, Lan Zhan? Now you’re outside of the Cloud Recesses too. We’ve both violated curfew. You can’t be strict on others but make exceptions for yourself, after all. If you punish me, you have to punish yourself too. Everyone has to be treated equally. So now what?’”
Wei Wuxian continued. “After he got up, his expression was horrible. I was sitting beside him, telling him that he didn’t need to worry and that I wouldn’t tell other people about it; only the sky, the earth, and us two would know. But without a single sound, he left." (Chapter 18)
WWX what are you doing to LWJ's ...heart! lmao
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plan-d-to-i · 8 hours ago
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I don't know how big you are on reading but i think you would like the Cut & Run series!
haha I'm pretty big on reading :) Have added the series to my reading list. thank you! xx
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plan-d-to-i · 9 hours ago
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Ugh that post about jcs horrible influence on jl makes me think about a post-canon scenario I like to think about when I'm falling asleep, where jl is so traumatized from everything that he doesn't want to cultivate anymore (for a while or permanently is changeable depending on how much angst I want at any given moment) and the only one showing him sympathy about it is wwx. In my book character development for jc is very unlikely to happen post canon but I have absolute faith in jl becoming a better person as he matures
Re THIS post.
That sounds like a very sad thing to think about while you're drifting off!! 🥲
I agree with your post canon impressions. In fact we have JingYi saying jc is right back on his bullshit- “Lan JingYi pouted, "They seem pretty fine. Sect Leader Jiang is the same as before, always lashing out at people with his whip.”". Meanwhile Jin Ling is a hands on Clan Leader who gets very upset to hear people are being turned away from Koi Tower without aid and makes it his priority to help! <3
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plan-d-to-i · 9 hours ago
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It's so funny everytime jc stans try to twist wwx & jc's relationship and make wwx the one codependent to jc, bc their canon dynamics will always be the opposite. It's literally the distracted boyfriend meme where the red lady is lwj, wen remnants or jfm's teachings/influence; and jc the blue lady😂
lol! Completely agree. The whole Cloud Recesses arc is basically Wei Wuxian running after LWJ and jiang cheng trying to constantly shoot it down. Like jc is that leech person who attaches themselves to the extrovert and acts like cutting remarks and put downs are "humor" or "concern". It's a good thing WWX is as self assured as he is, and even so jc's constant comments about LWJ hating him get to him and he starts doubting himself in the Xuanwu cave. People really overestimate the impact of being forced by circumstances to grow up together. When you get older the people you keep in your life are the ones you share world views and common interests with. The ones who are a fucking chore get phased out.
jc is the building in the bg:
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plan-d-to-i · 12 hours ago
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I cant help but gush on that post about WWX brainrot when his in LWJ's prescence 🤣 cause same WWX, u are so lucky to have a LWJ. I wish everyone had a LWJ 🤧
Wei Wuxian's interactions with Lan Wangji are everything. The way he's drawn to him like a moth to a flame, and he can't help but tease him and yearn for his attention. It's all very sweet like :
Hey, pay attention to me! Look at me, please, Second Master Lan.” Lan Wangji finally deigned to acknowledge Wei Wuxian’s lowly presence and glanced at him. “Why did you follow me here?” .....
Jiang Cheng spoke. “You should shut your mouth. The thing that swam past us wasn’t a water ghost. It was nothing more than a set of clothes!”
Of course, Wei Wuxian had seen all this perfectly clearly. Only, if he didn’t needle Lan Wangji, his entire body would start feeling out of sorts. (Chapter 17)
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plan-d-to-i · 14 hours ago
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jiang cheng stans: jc is the most beloved, softest Clan Leader ever. All the disciples adore him and are his adored, spoiled ducklings 🥺
canon:
"Jiang Cheng smiled coldly. “No need!” He chose to reverse course and take a leisurely stroll down the mountain. His disciples followed behind him silently, their faces miserable and marked with anxiety, knowing that when they returned, there would be no way to avoid their Clan Chief’s wrath." (Chapter 8)
... 🌝
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plan-d-to-i · 15 hours ago
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Reareading the novel and damn if jiang cheng is not absolutely insufferable from the start. This type of person that should be avoided at all costs bc they only know to put others down. 🤮🤜 Ex:
Wei Wuxian chewed on the piece of grass and yelled down at them. “He had questions for me, so I answered, he told me to leave, so I left. What else does he want from me?”
Nie Huaisang said, “Old Man Lan really seems like he’s coming down especially harshly on you. Every time he reprimands someone, it’s always you.”
Jiang Cheng grunted. “He deserves it. What kind of answer was that? He can get away with saying that sort of nonsense at home, but he had the nerve to say it to Lan Qiren’s face. He was practically asking for the old man to kill him!” (Chapter 14)
Nie Huaisang barely knows WWX yet he sees and acknowledges that LQR was being unfair towards him meanwhile jc is just happy to be yzy 2.0. Like what the fuck does WWX get away w at home where he’s always punished and singled out for punishment?!!!! Jiang cheng is just a nasty, bitter person. Better an enemy than such a "friend"
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plan-d-to-i · 16 hours ago
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Were JC's stans actually upset about the final donghua episode? When I watched it I felt it portrayed him quite sympathetically, even with the added seclusion bit.
I agree, but the stans were VERY mad. First day was the best because they were just cursing the donghua up and down and throwing an absolute shit fit on twitter 🍿. Then they started coming up with "theories" and it started being less amusing and more cringe. Like "MDZS Q shows jc and WWX/LWJ interacting so reconciliation is canon >:-/". lol I've never been a huge fan of the donghua, but minus a few canon divergences they did manage to land that finale. 👌
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plan-d-to-i · 16 hours ago
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Just saw someone try to put jc and lxc on that “you know other men?” Meme like… realistically it’d go like
JC:you’re the most jealous man i know
LXC: bitch I barely know you and who even let you in? Who’s jade toke did you steal? Security!!!!
"security!!!"- head canon accepted 😆
jc stans want jc to have his own LWJ so bad they just wipe away LXC's entire personality (and jc's homophobia)! It's also wild that anyone who is dating jc is suddenly meant to be super possessive and jealous, bc jc is so sO special and DESiRABLE. mate no one wants him in canon. That's the point. Whoever is self destructive enough to date him can rest easy. Even gold digging social climbers passed.
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plan-d-to-i · 18 hours ago
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JGY just saw opportunities when it came to WWX. As for LXC, I think JGY enjoyed the way LXC saw him. He liked seeing himself through his eyes and he enjoyed the respectability that their connection brought him. The most interesting parts of JGY, and probably truest to who he was are when he's interacting w Xue Yang in the novel and in the villainous friends extra. Even in the end his actions ensured that LXC would always feel conflicted about him and messed up emotionally because he put him in a fatal situation and then "saved" him. Talk about a mind game.
Jgy didn't hate wwx he simply never gave any fucks about wwx or lwj. He only cared about his position in the cultivation society. As long as the person is a threat to his position or his plans to reach where he wants to he have to take them out. Be it nmj or wwx or even lxc if it boiled down to it. He is a manipulative bitch who played lxc until the end.
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plan-d-to-i · 21 hours ago
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"okay anyway, jiang cheng regularly visits cloud recesses and spends his days gleefully yelling at and being loud with wei wuxian who lets him in every single time. #mdzs#the untamed#yunmeng shuangjie#jiang cheng#wei wuxian#just in case anyone forgot"
JC STANS ARE SO DELUSIONAL THEY THINK SOCIAL MEDIA IS CANON. THIS FANDOM IS A MESS.
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"okay anYwAy -🤪🥴". 🌝
jc stans: the novel doesn't affect me bc MXTX created the character didn't understand jc like I understand him. she clearly hated him and did him dirty >:-/
also jc stans: this social media post that some rando typed up clearly gets it 🤡
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plan-d-to-i · 21 hours ago
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💯👆.
I have to say, seeing the mess in the mdzs fandom (still relatively new here!) has me genuinely worried for any possibility of tgcf (main fandom!) ever blowing up in popularity like that (hopefully not). There are already many shitty takes around, especially wrt HC (is it just a black-red character thing? Ppl are so desperate for them to be actually evil or morally grey 😐), we don't need any more... I guess I'm mainly wondering if MQ stans would ever get as bad as JC stans. MQ as a character is definitely better than JC with actual redeeming qualities as you've pointed out yourself in the past (and he admitted to his faults in the end, ergo he is aware that he has them and made mistakes), but you still see many stans trying to take away his flaws and make him a purely soft but misunderstood poor boy who gets antagonized unfairly by everyone. Wwx and lwj barely even did anything to JC and ppl act as if they are devils incarnate, compared to that HC is fully hostile to MQ (with good reasons, imo, and I actually try to see both sides) and XL often points out MQ's shortcomings and ofc, FX's... everything, lol.
I think for svsss, SJ would be this specific character? (More extreme than the other two, though.) Ngl, I was actually surprised how much sympathy and love SJ gets in the fandom (Bing-ge doesn't get even half of it).
Anyway, sorry for rambling! The drama in the mdzs fandom and how much stans villanize actually good characters to defend their flawed favs shocked me, lol. And it's just confusing to me how ppl try to sympathize with their meow meow but never try to understand why other characters treat them the way they do. But blind stans...
ah ramble away!! We're absolutely on the same page. Truly nothing had prepared me for this fandom. I don't really project on characters when I read. I just want to be entertained, so to see so many ppl stan these underwhelming (to say the least) side characters so hard that they feel the need to change canon to make them into uwu soft babies and shit on the genuinely heroic characters!!? can't relate.
Shen Jiu has been almost totally ruined by his own stans 🥲. They just turned him into a generic YA heroine. rip Shen Jiu, you were so much cooler as you were written.
So I can understand the trepidation w tgcf's adaptation. There are already people bitching about how Xie Lian isn't "really that good! and his relationship w HC is toxic"🙃. I don't even think it's Mu Qing stans you have to watch out for. As you said Mu Qing is demonstrably better than jc and is thus rewarded with a reconciliation with the mc. I don't exactly vibe with that personality type but even I had to admit by the end Mu Qing was not in fact a shitbag. Just the fact that he broke the rules to take supplies to Xie Lian means something. All jc gave WWX when he was helping the Wens was a gut wound. Anyway, welcome to my theory : Qi Rong will be JC 2.0 sad angry uwu baby green grape 💚. The "eating people thing" was just mean rumors. He just wanted Xie Lian's love and attention >:-/ they were CoUsinS!! Xianle Bros! Cousins! Look at the way he cared for Gu Zi! # 1 DAD! Also he's known as the Green Ghost! DUH OBVIOUSLY this means he's Aromantic. And the way he helped Xuan Ji get revenge by killing all those women! Can you say FEMINIST KING!
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plan-d-to-i · a day ago
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I found it funny that all the fandom i entered in has a whole banquet of drama and discourse as soon as i opened the door 🤣 Heck i was so focus on mdzs fandom that i saw my prev fandom burning in flames yesterday that i didnt need to search for it since i know it earn a place at kiwifarms so i rather go there than twitter.
BAHAHAH I had never heard of kiwifarms before and now it's one hour later and I know all about a german man called Dragonlord (Drachenlord)
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plan-d-to-i · a day ago
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I have to say, seeing the mess in the mdzs fandom (still relatively new here!) has me genuinely worried for any possibility of tgcf (main fandom!) ever blowing up in popularity like that (hopefully not). There are already many shitty takes around, especially wrt HC (is it just a black-red character thing? Ppl are so desperate for them to be actually evil or morally grey 😐), we don't need any more... I guess I'm mainly wondering if MQ stans would ever get as bad as JC stans. MQ as a character is definitely better than JC with actual redeeming qualities as you've pointed out yourself in the past (and he admitted to his faults in the end, ergo he is aware that he has them and made mistakes), but you still see many stans trying to take away his flaws and make him a purely soft but misunderstood poor boy who gets antagonized unfairly by everyone. Wwx and lwj barely even did anything to JC and ppl act as if they are devils incarnate, compared to that HC is fully hostile to MQ (with good reasons, imo, and I actually try to see both sides) and XL often points out MQ's shortcomings and ofc, FX's... everything, lol.
I think for svsss, SJ would be this specific character? (More extreme than the other two, though.) Ngl, I was actually surprised how much sympathy and love SJ gets in the fandom (Bing-ge doesn't get even half of it).
Anyway, sorry for rambling! The drama in the mdzs fandom and how much stans villanize actually good characters to defend their flawed favs shocked me, lol. And it's just confusing to me how ppl try to sympathize with their meow meow but never try to understand why other characters treat them the way they do. But blind stans...
ah ramble away!! We're absolutely on the same page. Truly nothing had prepared me for this fandom. I don't really project on characters when I read. I just want to be entertained, so to see so many ppl stan these underwhelming (to say the least) side characters so hard that they feel the need to change canon to make them into uwu soft babies and shit on the genuinely heroic characters!!? can't relate.
Shen Jiu has been almost totally ruined by his own stans 🥲. They just turned him into a generic YA heroine. rip Shen Jiu, you were so much cooler as you were written.
So I can understand the trepidation w tgcf's adaptation. There are already people bitching about how Xie Lian isn't "really that good! and his relationship w HC is toxic"🙃. I don't even think it's Mu Qing stans you have to watch out for. As you said Mu Qing is demonstrably better than jc and is thus rewarded with a reconciliation with the mc. I don't exactly vibe with that personality type but even I had to admit by the end Mu Qing was not in fact a shitbag. Just the fact that he broke the rules to take supplies to Xie Lian means something. All jc gave WWX when he was helping the Wens was a gut wound. Anyway, welcome to my theory : Qi Rong will be JC 2.0 sad angry uwu baby green grape 💚. The "eating people thing" was just mean rumors. He just wanted Xie Lian's love and attention >:-/ they were CoUsinS!! Xianle Bros! Cousins! Look at the way he cared for Gu Zi! # 1 DAD! Also he's known as the Green Ghost! DUH OBVIOUSLY this means he's Aromantic. And the way he helped Xuan Ji get revenge by killing all those women! Can you say FEMINIST KING!
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plan-d-to-i · a day ago
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Hiiiiiiii
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Hi !! xx <3
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plan-d-to-i · a day ago
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I think they changed it to 'ready to fight JL' but I'm pretty sure anon's talking about this one: songofclarity (.) tumblr (.) com/post/665617926822510592/i-read-your-post-about-jiang-chengs-seclusion-and
Ah, thank you! (Re THIS post)
oof, I could've gone the rest of my days without reading that trip through the land of fantasy and delusion that jc stans live in.
"Key points that prove Wei Wuxian cared: he stayed" >:0
IT WAS A HOSTAGE SITUATION LMFAOOOOO.
What's the point of jc stans including quotes at this point when they're not going to interpret them correctly anyway? jc could be telling WWX “FUCK OFF AND DIE" and they'd be like "omg! he cares! I only tell people I love to fuck off and die 🥺"
"I have never interpreted this conversation and scene as Wei Wuxian just wanting to forget it all so he can live happily ever after with Lan Wangji. Wei Wuxian found a new way to live and he’s trying to share this with Jiang Cheng." -hahah haven't interpreted anything else correctly so far either why start now.
"He trusted Wei Wuxian. He never betrayed him. Even when Wei Wuxian returned, Jiang Cheng never betrayed his identity or tried to hurt him."
YES Successfully strategizing a siege based on his knowledge of WWX and his weaknesses and leading it with the express purpose of killing him and spending 13 years hunting and torturing anyone who might be WWX is actually just super supportive behavior. Let's get one thing clear. JC didn't tell anyone WWX returned because NO ONE would have believed him. JIN LING didn't believe him. HIS OWN NEPHEW THOUGHT HE WAS FUCKING NUTS. He already accused MXY/WWX of being WWX and whipped him with Zidian in front of a big ass crowd of people and ZERO things happened. Everyone already thought he was a "mad dog" chasing after anyone he suspected of demonic cultivation in case they were WWX. JGY himself calls jc a mad dog. Add to that, WWX was under the protection of LWJ who was the bother of LXC who was the sworn brother of JGY who was the CHIEF CULTIVATOR- jc would only look like the rabid moron that he was if he stared raging about how MXY is WWX. Only his stans would be inane enough to suggest this meant he cared.
The concern of jc stans with canon at this juncture is ironic considering the head canons they try to shove into canon. It's not that WWX hates jiang cheng, he's never hated him, he just doesn't want him in his life. They have completely different world views, they were always going to grow apart. That relationship was 99.9% work for WWX. More importantly WWX has found someone whose world views match his and who is the only person he wants to be with and that's Lan Wangji. WWX’s relationship to jc is NOT the central one in the story, the meeting of hearts and minds between Wei Wuxian and Lan Wangji is. The donghua distilled WWX's 2 encounters with jc to move on to the main event: WangXian. Just like WangXian moved on at the end of the novel without looking back.
“After a moment of hesitation, his lips moved slightly, as though he wanted to say something else. However, Wei WuXian had already turned to Lan WangJi.”
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