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shaz-ni · 2 years
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Has anyone else noticed the parallel between Lucifer pretending to be Jessica in season 5 and the Empty pretending to be Meg in season 15? Because I think about that every damn day.
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shaz-ni · 2 years
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Destiel shippers really go off and say that the writers would never do what they done to Dean and Cas if it a heterosexual pairing. Do they forget Megstiel, it was far more canon than Destiel ever was, they even kissed. It had exact same ending Meg sacrificed her life for Cas and was never mentioned again up until season 15. Just the same as Cas sacrificed life for Dean and Dean didn't care and never spoke about him again. The writers weren't homophobic they just hated Cas.
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shaz-ni · 2 years
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I swear someone who does video editing and doesn't ship destiel needs to make a video of every time Dean has abused Cas or ignored him or yelled at him or being mean or sent him to his death to the background noise of Cas' big speech of Dean being the most selfless loving man he ever knew just so some of the shippers can see reality without their rose tainted glasses.
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shaz-ni · 2 years
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This is the difference between Cas' feelings for the Winchester's and the Winchester's feelings for Cas. Cas loved them, he'd never allow them to sacrifice themself, would always try and protect them and offer himself in exchange.
The Winchester's where more than willing to let Cas sacrifice himself time after time, never tried to stop him and viewed him as nothing more than collateral damage. They never once told him that his life was important or that he was anything more than a tool to them. Never once did anyone tell Cas his life mattered.
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shaz-ni · 2 years
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Jensen is only one that understood Dean and Cas. He sees it exactly as it was a one sided friendship where Dean saw Cas as nothing more than a supernatural creature with no feelings.
And that is exactly how Dean treated Cas, like shit, never once did he consider how Cas was feeling about anything, he spoke to him and treated him like trash. He ignored Cas being suicidal, he ignored Cas grieving his son, he ignored all the speeches that Cas made about loving or caring about him or rest of family. Dean literally either stared at Cas in silence while Cas poured heart out or yelled at Cas in every single scene they shared in twelve years.
We the audience know Cas had feelings, that he experienced grief, love, sadness and attachment. But Jensen is talking from Dean's point of view and Dean as a hunter couldn't see a angel as capable of feelings or emotion. He never said Cas didn't love Dean he said Dean didn't recognise or see Cas as capable of love.
So he's not trying to invalidate anyone, he's not being homophobic, he's talking as his character and his character's viewpoint. I'm not a Dean fan but I like Jensen and I actually think he explained what went on with Dean and Cas better than anyone. At first I hated the whole Cas has no emotion then I realised that Jensen was talking about Deans point of view and it summed up how Dean treated Cas exactly.
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shaz-ni · 3 years
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Instead of constantly asking questions about Cas' love for Dean at cons I wish someone would go to con and ask Misha about his views on how Dean treated Cas and Jack. Like ask him about Dean blaming Cas for everything, ask him about Dean sending Cas to hell and being ready to close it. Ask him how Cas thought Dean was the most loving selfless man on earth only hours after he yelled Jack's not family and tried to sacrifice him.
I know he can't really say anything negative about main leads but I do want his opinion. Does he really see nothing wrong with these relationships.
He said Cas knew he was loved because Jack was loved. Does he really think the way Jack was treated and abused was loving.
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shaz-ni · 3 years
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Everyone thinks Cas only one who had free will because chuck wasn't controlling him but it was basically just Cas transferring his loyalty and devotation to Dean instead of God and heaven. Like he went from I serve my father and heaven, I will die for my father and heaven to I serve Dean and I will die for Dean.
And Dean just like God and heaven expected him to be a tool, to give him one hundred percent loyalty and follow orders without question.
And just like with heaven if he questioned orders or done anything for himself he was punished. Except with Dean the punishment wasn't quite as harsh as heaven. Dean's punishments were hurtful words like no one cares your broken or your dead to me and the silent treatment and orders to go to hell and abandonment once in hell which wasn't quite as harsh as literal torture or mind programming.
So because Dean was slightly less harsh on him Cas thought his new God was the most selfless loving caring person he ever knew. Once upon a time he had the same complete awe and faith in Chuck.
Like even his "we are real" scene. Cas desperately needed something to be real. For there to be some divine righteous being for him to serve because as much as free will was talked about Cas never had it.
He never got out of the mindset he had to serve someone, he had to be useful to have a meaning, his whole perceived purpose of himself was to be a sacrifice when the right time came.
He never learnt he mattered or he could be his own person. We came close in s15 ep03 he stood up for himself he left but then he came back because he had to serve had to be useful in the fight.
And his death scene wasn't really free will it was him giving up his life for this new God that Dean had become in his mind. Like that speech made Dean into some kind of God no one on this earth is the most selfless the most caring the most loving person that has never done anything wrong and has no faults unless you view them in some unrealistic Godlike pedestal. He paid his undying love and worship to his new God before laying down his life.
And I think Chuck knew this and was mocking it. He watched Dean and Cas and he pulled Cas on his self loathing and how he never done what he told because he knew Cas would hang himself on the metaphoric rope. The rope being Dean.
It wasn't that Chuck by blindsided or didn't notice Cas. Why bother with someone you know is going to do your own dirty work for you. Cas was going to doom himself completely on his own.
Chuck likely helped it along by nudging events to happen like Dean's prayer. The prayer was very likely Chuck's doing because at the time Chuck was trying to break Sam by telling him that him and Dean needed others that Dean would give up without others and him and Sam alone wasn't enough for Dean.
Chuck showed Sam a future where Dean gives up because Cas is in box and their other friends die whilst Chuck is forcing a situation where Dean is crying over Cas and not by Sam's side.
Two birds with one stone, try to weaken one target (Sam's) faith while strengthening the other targets faith (Cas) in the rope (Dean) that Cas is going to hang himself on.
If anything Cas was the one who Chuck got most satisfaction with. He let the story write itself apart from directing a few scenes with Dean and he got his tragic twisted story. The self loathing angel who longed to serve to be useful sacrificed himself for the man he had transferred all his loyalty to.
It was his happiness moment just saying he loved him and dooming himself into the empty a place worse than hell while the object of his affection had no reaction, didn't care and instantly forgot he had ever existed.
Chuck would of seen it as some type of mix between tragic storytelling of unrequited love and revenge on Cas for worshipping a fake God.
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shaz-ni · 3 years
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Misha Cas saw love and acceptance in Dean's eyes
What? Where? Dean looked disgusted or at very best bored.
He didnt grieve him, he didn't talk about him apart from telling Sam not to be an eeyore.
In heaven he didnt care Cas was alive never wanted to see him again so where's the love.
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shaz-ni · 3 years
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It's sad that even as God all cas wanted was to be told he's loved and he never got up. His supposable happy ending was him accepting he'll never be loved by anyone and being happy about it
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shaz-ni · 3 years
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If they wanted to make Cas gay they could of had that scene of him in the rupture telling Dean he was moving on and then gave us a glimpse of him somewhere between ep 18 and 20 on the beach hand in hand with a guy maybe even a audio I love you with some guy that would of being better than sacrifice for unrequited love and forgotten about. We would of known he safe and happy and had found someone who cared about him. Not either in empty dreaming of his worse regrets or eternity in heaven living his worst nightmare alone and unloved and forgotten for eternity.
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shaz-ni · 3 years
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No matter how you look at it Cas got a bad miserable ending. Cas helped either means his sacrifice helped and he's still in empty or Jack pulled him out and put him in heaven and he's alone forever in heaven separated from everyone he ever cared about for eternity because people forget he's not with Jack. Bobby said Jack left so for Cas who's whole arc was depression wanting to fit in wanting to be loved he got eternity alone with the people who he cared for loved and sacrificed for all forgetting about him never wanting to see him again
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shaz-ni · 3 years
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Dean
Blames Cas for everything why is it always you
Also Dean
Is the sole reason Cas dies so many times. Is the sole reason Cas lost and gave up everything his angel family, his home, his son, his self worth, his powers. Led him into trap and Cas has to yet again sacrifice himself to save him when it was Dean who was wrong again about Billy and too angry to listen to anyone. But Cas gets months of abuse for any mistake even if it's trying to save people he loves while Dean claps himself on back for saving the world and getting Cas killed and eats pie no remorse no grief no respect for the sacrifices made for him nothing
No Dean WHY IS IT ALWAYS YOU!!!!
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shaz-ni · 3 years
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Both Winchester's were more emotional about the loss of Sam's shoe than Cas' death and people still out there saying he was family to them or shipping him with any one of them
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shaz-ni · 3 years
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A lesson Cas really needed to learn
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shaz-ni · 3 years
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Yup he was lost, and he lost his family, he lost his wings he was homeless he died numourous times, he was alone, he learned that he should never be happy, that his happiness should just be loving someone who didn't love him back and that he himself was expandable and then he was forgotten about
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shaz-ni · 3 years
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All this and no one ever told cas they loved him or cared for him he lost everything loved everyone and in 12 years he got one offhand comment of "Cas helped"
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shaz-ni · 3 years
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The destiel thing is funnier when you realise that in s15 Dean didn't speak more than the one line to Cas about "Why is it always you" the other interaction they had was Dean aggressively glaring at Cas when he says he's moving on, hanging up phone on him and standing emotionless and silent during confession. Prayer barely counted because it was a prayer not directly to him so where's this love or longing
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