honestly steve deserved to be a little meaner in civil war
âsteve you have to sign the accordsâ
âoh right i totally should sign my rights away to a government who i exposed to have been infiltrated by nazis for DECADES. iâm sure nothing bad will happen if i do thatâ
âi should let the government dictate my life when all iâve ever done is save the world by going AGAINST the government. sounds like a great planâ
like t0ny stans love to say he was being horribly selfish and mean in civil war, which he⌠wasnât, but i think he should have been
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May Parker absolutely despises Tony Stark and you canât convince me otherwise.
If I found out that some womanizing billionaire lied *to my face* and coerced my 14 year old kid into going to GERMANY to fight *actual trained soldiers* because he has superpowers, I would be in jail for murder
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never forget that when peter punched flash thompson so hard he flew down the hall & the whole school thought he was a freak, harryâs response was damn that was hot
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*Valkyrie arrives to help her gf*
Kamala: wlw, 17K words, Heroes To Friends To Lovers, Carol Danvers whump, Marval, hurt/comfort.
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Tony Stark: I have to babysit Peter Parker. He's a bit annoying. I guess he's alright.
Carol Danvers: Everyone clap for Kamala Khan right now or I'm blowing this fucking building up with you all inside of it.
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One part I really liked in The Marvels was after Carol snaps at Kamala during battle she apologies?? And says âIâm sorry, I shouldnât have spoken to you that wayâ?? Like she understands that Kamala is young and looks up to her, and considers that her being harsh could hurt her confidence?? Tony Stark would never Iâm just saying
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I'm obsessed with Carol Danvers. She's socially awkward. She's a war criminal. She's a cat mom. She's a Disney princess. She hates everything. She could beat the shit out of everyone. She's 60. She's half alien. She's a comedian. She's in a glass closet. She's a girlboss. She's a girlfail. She's everything to me.
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The Marvels
âOh captain, my captainâ.
Still canât get over with their chemistry and I miss them already !!
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There's things I am understand from Tony Stans when they write 'Steve mistake ',
1. They will using reason Steven choose bucky over tony
2. Steve hide / lie the fact about tony parents death
3. Steven is not read accord and not make negotiations about accord
4. Steve recruit clint, sama and wanda and make them in raft. So it's steve mistake
From the four point the third point is bothering me. I am not gonna lie I kind forget the detail civil war but, steve did and the only one that read accord. Also if I am not wrong Ross didn't give chance go steve and everyone to negotiations about accord at all, I meant he said avenegrs onel have three days accept or retired. I menat what kind f&** is that. They have no time to negotiations about accord at all
And Tony said the can make negotiations after they sign the paper, that not how work. You can't make negotiations after to signed the papers, the UN won't considered that they want control, you signed you follow what is inside
So I think it's was weord they blame steve no want negotiations at all. Because there's no time for that, also Steven considered the accord if they for innocent protection and not for government to controlling innocent peoples. So why they keep point that?
I think they need to come up with excuses, half-truths and lies because no matter how hard the Russos tried to paint both teams as equally right, Team Cap is the only one in the right.
To your first point, Steve is against the Accords way before Bucky is even in the picture.
This is something that not only the haters but many fans seem to forget: Not everything Steve does has to do with Bucky. He has a separate life and a mind of his own, and those Accords go against everything that makes him who he is.
To your second point, Steve had no way of knowing Bucky had murdered the Starks. Zola said this:
Zola: "For 70 years, HYDRA has been secretly feeding crises, reaping war. And when history did not cooperate, history was changed."
Natasha: "That's impossible. S.H.I.E.L.D. would've stopped you."
Zola: "Accidents will happen."
And this was shown:
This required Steve to assume Bucky had been the only Winter Soldier at the hands of Hydra. He could have guessed but he didn't know for sure. And going to Stark to tell him "I found out your parents were murdered but I'm not sure of what happened", over 20 years after the fact is not exactly ideal. Not to mention Stark had hacked Shield's systems two years prior. He didn't exactly do a good job of digging there, and Steve and he weren't that close.
To your third point, whoever says that is lying. Steve is the only one shown reading the Accords:
My man has perfect memory. He knew very well those Accords were an abomination.
And to your last point, Sam, Clint and Wanda have agency and they knew what they were getting into before they went to the airport. Unlike Peter Parker who was lied to by Stark, Steve was very clear that he wanted his team to know who and why they were fighting, and the consequences of doing so. Even with a stranger like Scott:
They chose to follow Steve because they knew it was the right thing to do. Clint left his family, Wanda risked her life and her freedom, so did Scott, Bucky and Sam. All of them followed and did the right thing because they're heroes, it's what they do.
Ross knew very well what he was doing. As Secretary of State, not only did he keep the Accords under wraps until only three days before the UN meeting, he kept from the entire team that an Accord is not the same as a law and it was a constitutional violation to try and enforce it on the team and the citizens.
They had no time to negotiate. They would have needed to lawyer up and do everything in a short period of time: the meeting was in Vienna and they were in NYC, if you count the time it would have taken them to get there, the time they needed to find a lawyer they trusted to go through the whole thing and come up with a good enough case to stand up not only to the US Senate but the UN⌠yep, they had no time to do so. That was Ross' plan all along.
Stark telling Steve the Accords could be amended after he signed them was no more than an attempt at manipulation. There is something important to keep in mind here: Stark would NOT be affected by these Accords at all. As shown in the movie, he broke them when he flew to Siberia and nothing happened. Ross called him and he put him on hold, and nothing happened.
Stark is used to doing whatever the hell he wants (like basically telling the government to suck it when he refused to give them his suits. What happened to him? Nothing) and facing no consequences whatsoever. So in his mind, signing these papers means nothing, he can break them whenever he feels like it and he'll find a way to get away with it. For Steve and Wanda, the Accords were a direct violation of their civil rights. It's not the same.
Steve was never against accountability. The Accords were:
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mobius standing there, surrounded in GREEN AND GOLD LIGHT as he talks about waiting a while and letting time pass, only for the next shot to be loki HEARING HIS VOICE and fucking SMILING. are we joking rn are we kidding like this GOT to be a fucking joke
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anyway the person Loki went back to ultimately ask what he should do was Mobius.
the person who couldnât continue the job theyâd been doing for eons because it was too painful without Loki was Mobius.
the person who stood alone in the second to last shot was Mobius.
the person whoâs voice Loki heard at the end of time was Mobius.
if you donât think thatâs winning i donât know what to tell you.
give me painful, bittersweet, star-crossed lovers over nothing at all any day.
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