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piosplayhouse · 2 years
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No SV summary is complete without the mention that the main protagonist's father underwent a tragic character arc paralleling his son's in which he fell in love with someone who he finally thought could accept him for what he was despite their relationship being demonized by the world until he was manipulated into believing she had betrayed him when she actually died giving birth to their only child, the existence of which he doesn't even know about, and neither of them had had the chance to say goodbye to each other before he was permanently placed in solitary confinement for little reason other than that he wasn't human. Oh you want to know what he does in the canon timeline? He just reads rpf erotica for fun. Yeah
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Obi-Wan Kenobi: Part V | The Last Jedi
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tarisilmarwen · 7 months
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Ahsoka "The Jedi, The Witch, and The Warlord" Liveblog
Woo boy, there were certainly some Choices in this.
Yeah yeah, I'm late and spoilered to hell I know, look, I have been Going Through It out in realspace and my priority has been finishing Whumptober fics, cut me some slack.
Anyway.
Lars Mikkelson continuing to crush it as Thrawn.
"Even I fell victim to the... heroics of a single Jedi." Looooooool another bit for my collection of Pissy!Thrawn moments.
We're not going to get an explanation for why the Nightsisters and Thrawn are so tight, are we?
Morgan looks a little bit trepidacious about all of this ha ha.
All right, a point in this show's favor, this look at Nightsister rituals and culture is interesting.
And the flaming sword is cool, I'll admit.
Ngl, the editing really needs to be tightened up in this scene, we really only needed the one or two establishing shots before cutting into the interior.
Eman continues to be the perfect Ezra. I love him. 10/10 no complaints.
Ngl, this is sweet on the surface that Ezra's new saber has pieces of Kanan's buuuuuuuut *waves Green Saber Ezra Supremacy flag*.
Sabine, let him borrow y'all's lightsaber and YOU build a new one.
Ah goody, an Exposition Reveal.
-_-
This... doesn't actually explain Baylan's "Your family is dead because your Master didn't trust you." line btw. JUST SAYING.
I don't even know what the narrative wants anymore re. Sabine's choice to gamble Thrawn's return for Ezra.
Aaaand please not to be reminding me of the Wrong Jedi arc kthnx.
Oh good an action scene.
Ezra and Ahsoka being cool Jedi together, nice. Could be more emphasized and staged even more coolly tho.
Well poop, I guess that's the reason why we had to risk stowing away on Thrawn's ship.
Oh good! This holomap thing is exactly the kind of plot device I actually needed for one of my Sabezra Week fills.
Lol Thrawn be taking NO chances lololol.
Oh hello finally some of Thrawn's theme in the score here. Thrawn using the men's loyalty and fanaticism towards him personally to achieve his goals, fits the culty vibes, sure.
I am liiiiiviiiiiiiiiiiing for the subtle nervousness in Ezra's voice when talking about Thrawn finding the Dathomir castle and waking the witches. PLEASE CAN I HAVE A THOUSAND WHUMP AND ANGST FICS ABOUT THE IN-BETWEEN BEFORE EZRA'S ESCAPE FROM THE CHIMAERA?
His arms are so comfortably around Sabine awwwwww.
Thrawn be all srs bznss and I'm loving it.
Yeah no, Jedi!Sabine is REJECTED, she did not have any kind of necessary mental or emotional breakthrough, she wasn't shown calming her mind properly, sorry Dave THE LEGWORK AIN'T THERE, Imma fix this to be Ahsoka in the inevitable rewrite/fixfic that I've apparently decided I'm doing.
Oh Ahsoka is helping too, well I'm still not having Sabine be able to do it.
HAAAAAAAAAA THAT PISSED LOOK OF THRAWN'S OH MAN THE SNARLING LIP CURL, THE RAGE, YES PLEASE MORE.
The struggle to recompose himself OH MAN.
This is peak Mirrorverse!Thrawn and I'm here for it. I love seeing my headcanons playing out onscreen.
Aaaaaand this would have been the perfect scene to have Ezra and Sabine sharing the Our Lightsaber, meanwhile Sabine should be fully kitted out Mando style.
*simmers*
STAGE THIS DIFFERENTLY SO THAT SABINE'S BESKAR IS NOT CONSTANTLY LITERAL PLOT ARMOR PLEASE.
Aahhhhhhh Ezra my love! <3
Should have either let him use the Our Lightsaber or continued with the Force martial arts though, pick a lane. Or have a conversation about why they need to actually get him another saber.
Eman is... waaaaaaay better at this than Rosario, sad to say, lol.
Look at him GO THERE'S MY BOY.
I love him.
Oh what are we doing now?
Ohhhhh the zombie!troopers!
Lol Ezra must have left before the Nightsisters could show Thrawn their zombie techniques.
Eman makes this look flawless, I am in love.
Battle Couple Sabezra moment, awww.
"I missed you."
FAKSJHFAKJFHHKKHHHFHFH OKAY DEAD.
DEAD AND DECEASED.
LIKE THE ZOMBIES LOL.
Aaaaaaaaand I'm gonna adjust this in the fixfic, because right now it looks like they were waiting to actually dock.
And my typing is being slowed down hang on a second.
Still dumb.
Okay back.
Thrawn basically telling Morgan, "Right, so you're going to have to go fight the Rebels and stall die for me, mmkay?"
She's looking like she might regret all of this now lolol.
I do like how the finale is making it very very easy for me to fix later lol.
Like here. Morgan should have attempted to stop Ezra and Sabine. Just a small attempt, and then blocked by Ahsoka, and Ezra and Sabine run around and outmaneuver them.
BATTLE COUPLE SABEZRA. :D
Aaaaand final trailer shot accounted for.
Okay, can there be a little more effort on the choreography there please?
Oh no Sabine, EZRA SAVE HER.
Or we could retcon Sabine into actually legitimately being Force Sensitive and have her pull the Our Lightsaber.
SIIIIIIIIGHHHHHHH.
*grumbles, takes down notes about how to fix this in my rewrite*
Oh come on Ezra, you can jump that.
Catch me melting at the sheer and utter trust Ezra has in Sabine's abilities.
(But also, screw this, she's getting a jetpack in the rewrite.)
Aaaaaaaaaand I do hate that they got separated again, screwing alllllll of that.
Nice of the troopers to just politely stop shooting.
Yeah so, this is basically gonna be a 1 v 100 for Ahsoka when I rewrite it, let my girl have a hard fought climactic battle, she can take it.
"Your friends are dead." Uhhhh nah they ain't what does this bit of dialogue even connect to?
Lol Ezra gets to put on the big boy stormtrooper armor.
The vaaaaaaaaaguely panicky twitches that Thrawn has here. A+, excellent, no notes.
No kill like overkill LOLOLOL.
Thrawn, internally: Shitshitshitshitshitshitshiiiiiiiiiiiiit.
Ah Thrawn is going to try Break Them By Talking. Ezra tanked this let's see if Ahsoka can do the same.
Nope, she's Affected.
Aaaaaand he out.
Bye Thrawn!
Hmmmmgh, yeah no, because in my rewrite I'm axing the entirety of Sabine actually becoming a Jedi it's going to be better that she goes with Ezra on the Eye of Sion instead of stays with Ahsoka, if she stayed a Jedi then yes that's what the conclusion should have been that makes narrative sense now that I see it.
But also again, I Do Not Like That Plot Point so--*grumblegrumble mumble*
Hi Morai!
Bandit queen Shin? I could dig it.
Baylan chilling with Mortis god statues.
I STILL DO NOT SEE ANY SOLID EVIDENCE THEY'RE GONNA DO ABELOTH GUYS, SORRY.
And Thrawn is setting up base on Dathomir. Lol wait til he finds out that there's basically nothing there anymore lololol.
Those uh... those be a lotta dead troopers. Probably most of the Chimaera crew.
...Cripes did they die naturally, did Ezra kill them, or did Thrawn pull some kind of Jonestown thing in order to enact his eventual revenge?
Oh maaaaan what if it's that last one, that would fit with the cult-like chanting in his intro omgghghhhggkajsfkjh.
Frick man, Thrawn fixing to unleash an undead army on the GFFA that can really only be taken out by lightsabers.
Oh come on, you're telling me Ezra was on the Eye and didn't pull some last minute shenanigans before he left?
Didn't screw Thrawn over one last time for nostalgia's sake?
(He and Sabine are blowing up some engines before they skedaddle, in the fixfic.)
HERA AND EZRA SHOULD HAVE BEEN ALLOWED A HUG, FILONI.
The attempt at bookends here is cute but no. LET HERA HUG HER SON.
THIS DOESN'T EVEN REALLY WORK AS A BOOKEND.
YES THE PART WHERE CHOPPER RECOGNIZES HIM IS CUTE BUT THIS IS WASTED DRAMA. THERE'S NO REASON FOR THIS.
LET HERA HUG HER SOOOOOOONNNN.
This whole scene just doesn't work because we're trying to shoehorn it into being a bookend for the opening, it doesn't wooooooooooorrrrrk.
THEY SHOULD HAVE HUGGED.
*furiously taking down notes on how to rewrite this scene*
*grumbling*
Blah blah Sabine can feel Anakin there but Ahsoka can't? blah blah blah.
Aaaaaaand closing us out with "As The Sun Sails And The Moon Walks"
Well.
Where do I begin?
Okay so... final verdict... I DO actually like this show.
THAT BEING SAID.
There was soooooooo much about the execution and so many of the narrative choices that I just NEEDED to be better and it frustrates me. Because this show by all rights should have been a spectacular emotional thrill ride like Kenobi and it just wasn't.
A lot of the problems and nitpicks I had with Kenobi are exacerbated here, especially under Filoni's brand of, "I didn't care for what Lucas did with the Prequels, here let me fix it." NO FILONI IT DIDN'T NEED FIXING IT WAS FINE! HOW THE FORCE WORKED WAS FINE! THE JEDI WERE FINE!
But there's such GOOD STUFF in here that I can't discount it all fully like I can with the Sequel Trilogy. (Which, believe me, I have attempted to workshop and fixfic but ultimately gave up on.) The purrgil lore! The Ancient Dathomiri! Another galaxy! Whatever Baylan was up to! Sabezra being adorable! Thrawn!
Soooooo yeah, basically join me sometime in the future for when I inevitably create a fixfic AU for this show like I did for Aldnoah.Zero because unfortunately I can't give up on this show I need to fix it, just hand me the characters and story and I can fix it.
Can't do much for the camerawork, choreography, and occasional stiff acting (Not you Eman, Natasha, Ray, Evan, and Lars, you're all great.) but I can at least salvage that part lol.
Ultimately... mid. Excellent premise and cool concepts brought down by subpar execution and some frankly baffling narrative decisions. But gimme like a week and I will workshop a Fanon AU that I can be completely happy with.
Hopefully we get a Season Two? Maybe? Or resolve everything in the Mandoverse movie?
Peace out, y'all.
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short-wooloo · 2 years
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I realized something about Kenobi
It's basically what we wanted Last Jedi to be
You've got this lonely sad old man who is a little bitter (but not an all consuming bitterness) who unfairly blames himself for what his fallen student has done
But he gets his resolve restored with the help of a plucky, wide-eyed young force sensitive
The old man's fallen student hunts his former master and is completely ruthless and there is no attempt made to justify the fallen student, who also refuses to take responsibility for his own actions while blaming his master for them
The fallen student has a squad of dark side minions who are actively involved in the plot and are not just set dressing
The Jedi are appreciated
Oh, and while hunted and few in numbers, the Jedi still survive
And the eventual end of the story is the old man restored to the Jedi we know, regaining his confidence and his fire
It reminds me of something I saw on Luke in TLJ: basically the film breaks Luke down and then builds him back up (the classic deconstruction-reconstruction), but the problem is too much of the film is spent on breaking Luke down, and too little on building Luke back up, compounded by having him die immediately after getting the Luke we know back
And like I said, Kenobi is shaping up to be what we didn't get with TLJ
At some point (4th or 5th episode by my estimate) Obi-Wan's going to "get his groove back" so to speak, and become more like the Jedi we know from ANH (or Rebels if we're speaking chronologically)
And unlike Luke, we get to enjoy good old Master Kenobi before he dies
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thund3randrain · 3 months
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Listen, I hate The Last Jedi as much as the next avid movie-goer. But I loved the whole idea of Rey coming from nothing. Her parents being scavengers who sold her for drinking money.
So much of star wars is built around the idea of family making you important. Who you're related to making you special. You backstory defining you. That was the whole point of the prequel trilogy. They do it to so many characters. Kylo Ren is important because he's a Skywalker. Leia is important because she's a Skywalker. For a while we thought Rey was gonna be important because she was gonna be a Skywalker, or even a Kenobi.
Rey starting out a nobody, but still being able to affect the galaxy and have her own story is so powerful, and throws the finger right in the face of everything that came before. You don't need to have some mythic ancestry or powerful backstory to be important. Anyone can be a hero, and anyone can make a difference. Rey was so convinced that her parents were important, that knowing them would explain everything, but in the end they didn't matter. She mattered. And that's really moving
And then JJ said fuck it she's a Palpatine Skywalker now UwU
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a-manda-lorian · 1 year
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Mando took me back to the TLJ mood today 😬 I always loved the throne room scene and how Rey and Kylo fought their way through the Praetorian Guard, but now I have infinitely more respect for the scene! After watching the guard take down Paz (who has proven to be an extremely skilled fighter!) with EASE, I am convinced that the TLJ scene is straight up unmatched Dyad power 😳 And say what you will about Kylo Ren, but there was a moment in the throne room that he was taking on 4 guards at once!! Now all I want to see is more Kylo/Ben raw fighting power!!!
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knight-hunter · 1 year
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To be honest, this latest episode of The Mandalorian kind of worried me about the direction the show might take...
That VERY long segment on Coruscant bothered me for two reasons:
1) this is The Mandalorian, I wanna see the mandalorian and follow closely his adventures, I don't wanna NOT see him for 3/4 of the episode (and, yes, that applies for what happened on tbobf too: while I was happy to see Din, Grogu etc, that was Boba's show, it didn't felt right)
2) I have the nasty feeling that, sooner or later, they're gonna start and show connections, through the shows, to the last sequels trilogy. And this episode might have started that. And here I have a HUGE problem: personally, for my healthy state of mind, I don't consider the sequels trilogy canon. I just can't. It was an insult to everything that I love about star wars. Hell, to everything that I love about storytelling. I tried, but I couldn't.
So, I'd REALLY hate it if they'd start to use The Mandalorian as a tool of connection to those "movies". Just make a separate series, and don't use The Mandalorian.
And, yes, I know I maybe wrong seeing how the story on Coruscant ended, but this episode kind of put me on guard.
I wanna follow Din Djarin and Grogu. I want THEIR stories. Please, do not ruin this too.
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My parents and I watched the season 3 finale of Star Wars: Rebels tonight and I can't believe my mom was the one who was like "WHY ARE THEY* ALL DYING?!" and I was the one being all, "don't worry I'm sure it will be fine." this is the most role reversal we have ever done.
(*to clarify I mean the rebels in general, the main cast was fine)
#star wars#star wars rebels#star wars rebels spoilers#what's really funny is that this season ended pretty much like 'the last jedi' did it with hardly anyone making it out#and them all crowded on the main iconic ship#and I HATED the last jedi#but like it just felt so much more HOPEFUL in rebels Idk man#also yeah I did make this post as a way to shamelessly react post in the tags#Idk even where to start#the first part of the finale was crazy man their leader literally CUT AN IMPERIAL SHIP IN HALF by ramming his command ship into it#like if you're gonna die doing a kamikaze run let it be by CUTTING ANOTHER SHIP IN HALF#and what the FUDGE is bendu WHAT was his deal even#kanan showing up yelling at him like merry with treebeard in the LOTR movies#'but you're a part of this world! aren't you?'#my mom was so mad at bendu for refusing to help akjghljasgdhfdgjags I'm over there like 'wait until they ACTUALLY ATTACK HIS PLANET'#and haha I was right#okay this is so silly but I'm so happy they didn't kill off agent callus that dude has really grown on me#he was doing his best thrawn's just insane with strategy#also THRAWN aklghfjaskgdls okay I LOVED his reaction to bendu being “?!?!? shoot it?!?!” *windows error noise*#man was foiled by his own underlings and angry force rafiki#HERA CALLING KANAN 'MY LOVE' OH MY WORD JUST *MARRY* EACH OTHER ALREADY YOU BASICALLY ALREADY ARE#'looks like the family's back together' STOP#the yavin base name drop#me through the entire space battle: do you know what we need right now? the battlestar galactica#just looked it up and apparently a star destroyer is actually not much bigger than a battlestar which is. FASCINATING to me#they'd be like the same class of ship#which tracks yeah#anyway#they did have a few ships get away so they did actually have a better success rate than in TLJ#but of course they had MANDALORIANS to help them out here so
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gabriella0807 · 2 years
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absolxguardian · 2 years
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Something very small about Andor that I like is that we got two separate lines about ship parking (the cops threatening Cassian including that they'll impound his ship and the old man bothering Luthen talking about how expensive Ferrix parking is). One (imo, unfair) criticism I've seen about the Canto Bight section of TLJ is that Finn and Rose's ship getting impounded is stupid stakes. Andor is almost lampshading it by doing subtle worldbuilding that Corporate Sector planets are super anal about parking. Which makes sense, these planets have no public land and parking is about land use when you really get down to it.
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piosplayhouse · 2 years
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wait WHAT. can you please explain the potion thing. what the fuck
"Luo Binghe's shoulders trembled.
Shen Qingqiu made sure to emphasize every word. 'If I were [Su Xiyan], no matter how venomous that drug was, I would have drunk it down without hesitation, then escaped the Water Prison. Afterward, I would draw all its effects into my own body. No matter how agonizing the process, no matter if the price would be the complete destruction of my martial aspect, no matter if it meant a horrible death: I absolutely would not allow my child to suffer even an ounce of harm.'" (Book 3, pg. 318)
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Obi-Wan Kenobi: Part VI | The Last Jedi
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pandora15 · 2 years
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it kinda just hit me that the kenobi series makes what luke says about obi-wan in tlj 10000% sadder because. we see exactly how difficult it was for obi-wan to overcome and find himself again, and that luke himself had a big part to play in that, especially since obi-wan climbed out of the rocks in the final episode when he thought of leia and luke.
but then luke says that darth vader was obi-wan's fault in tlj and i'm —
sad.
especially when you think about the fact that force ghost obi-wan was probably watching him when he said that and we know exactly how much he struggled with his guilt over what had happened to anakin and i just.
i've been meaning to write a fic centered around obi-wan reacting to luke's comments and i outlined it but never got around to it. hm.
anyways, star wars is pain, thanks for coming to my ted talk
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crookshankscrew · 1 year
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when they bring back the Praetorian Guards and every anti has to comment with “I hate the sequel trilogy but I love them” or “I hate the last Jedi but the guard was so much better in this show”
shut the fuck up
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the-force-awakens · 1 year
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Teva wearing the same jacket as Poe in tlj (+ a background NR pilot having a similar one but with a fur collar) has me SO FUCKING happy and now I'm curious if Poe inherited the jacket from someone else (Shara? L'ulo?) or if pilots in the NRDF just get one of those and Poe's had it since he joined and that's why it looks so weathered because he's had it for over a decade by tlj
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djarin-skywalkers · 2 years
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Obi wan's plan is very similar to the battle of crait and Leia was there to witness it bye
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