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anghraine · 6 months

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A few days ago, I briefly mentioned Wickham's take on Lady Catherine, and it's stuck in my mind. At least, this specific part of the description has:

She [Lady Catherine] has the reputation of being remarkably sensible and clever; but I [Wickham] rather believe she derives part of her abilities from her rank and fortune, part from her authoritative manner, and the rest from the pride of her nephew, who chooses that everyone connected with him should have an understanding of the first class.

I mean, in fairness to ... Wickham (ugh), it's evidently true that Lady Catherine is not actually clever and her power and force of personality do a lot of the work of giving her a reputation for it. But I do think the way he manages to link this to Darcy is interesting.

Wickham seems to assume that Darcy can just choose that everyone connected with him has a reputation for high intelligence, which I think is pretty debatable. On top of that, Wickham assumes that Darcy would choose to do that, because of pride. He's set up an odd framework in which Darcy cares deeply about everyone around him being perceived as clever (but only for nasty pride reasons, of course!), and in fact cares so deeply that he'd bring his influence to bear in maintaining Lady Catherine's reputation for it.

I don't think Lady Catherine's reputation for cleverness rests on Darcy just wanting his family to be seen as clever or requires that explanation at all. But I find it intriguing that Wickham thinks so, or at least says he does, given the Ch 4 description of Darcy:

In understanding, Darcy was the superior. Bingley was by no means deficient; but Darcy was clever.

So I suspect this may be part of Wickham's attempt to acknowledge Darcy's good reputation and qualities enough to cover his ass later, while tying everything good about him to his pride. Wickham doesn't quite admit that Darcy's (alleged) desire for those around him to be seen as clever derives from Darcy being clever himself and valuing the quality, but I think it's kind of implied, and at the very least, he could suggest that he'd said something to that effect.

It's a bit how he describes Darcy's careful guardianship of Georgiana (which Wickham certainly has reason to know about!). He mostly attributes it to Darcy's reputation for being a good brother, finds a way to make it somehow about pride, and barely wedges in a grudging admission that Darcy actually has some real affection for Georgiana. I suspect he only does the last because it's so incredibly obvious that it'd be suspicious if Wickham suggested otherwise.

I do wonder, though, if part of the reason that Wickham associates Lady Catherine's reputation for cleverness with Darcy's supposed desire for his family/connections to be seen as clever is Wickham's own fixation on Darcy. Wickham knows Darcy is seen as clever and likely that Darcy values intelligence. Darcy and Wickham were brought up together as companions in the same household. And tbh I don't think Wickham himself is, or has ever been, particularly clever in the way that Darcy and Elizabeth are.

Wickham suggests that Darcy was insecure and jealous from childhood (and some readers have really wanted to believe him!). But my headcanon is that, growing up with Darcy, Wickham was the more insecure one. He was the one who was supposed to go to school and Cambridge and become a clergyman; he was supposed to be quick-thinking and good at his books and morally restrained. Darcy was the heir; he could be anything he wanted to be. Yet I would guess that young Wickham was continually outstripped by Darcy in those terms, that he came to resent Darcy's freedom and what he did with it, and that it's very easy for his mind to link Lady Catherine's supposed cleverness to Darcy's.

In Wickham's head, the connection must somehow be causal. But he can't bring himself to quite admit to anyone that Darcy's cleverness is real any more than he can admit that Darcy's generosity or moral rectitude are real. It's got to be about pride, reputation, family, fortune. And I suspect Wickham can't admit the truth to himself, either.

#i feel like wickham really blurs the lines between what qualities ly c and darcy actually have and what they have the reputation for having #because he's so much about the appearance of things and doesn't engage with the reality of them #oh and i also have headcanons about how darcy himself relates to this but that's a post for another day #anghraine babbles #long post #austen blogging #lady anne blogging #george wickham #fitzwilliam darcy #lady catherine de bourgh #anghraine's headcanons #pride and prejudice #jane austen #austen fanwank

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bethanydelleman · 30 days

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Hello!

I liked your post about Anne de Bourgh probably just being sick, and another question came to my mind with regard to her.

I am quite astonished to see, that in a lot of JAFF, when he can't get Elizabeth, Darcy marries Anne de Bourgh. Usually there is some hidden motivation behind that: for example she is pregnant and he wants to save her reputation, or he wants to give her an opportunity to escape from Lady Catherine (relying on the non-canon assumption, that Anne is suffering under her mother's care) etc. For me it is a big question whether Darcy would marry her under any circumstances, and I am curious to hear your opinion about that. I always love your thoughtful answers!

Thanks

This question is in reference to this post.

As a general rule, I think that if Darcy meant to marry Anne de Bourgh, he would have already done it. So no, I don't think he'd marry her.

Anne's age is unclear, but the cradles line implies that she and Darcy are close in age, which is around twenty-eight. That isn't terribly old for Darcy, but it is for Anne if she's expecting to produce some children. I do think Anne being around Darcy's age makes sense, because it makes Lady Catherine more desperate. She's probably been previously thinking to herself, "Darcy is enjoying his youth, lots of time to marry" but now the deadline is feeling near and she's starting to wonder when Darcy will do his duty... (because obviously he's not going to squelch on her, right? RIGHT?)

Often I'll see in JAFF Darcy giving up on love after Elizabeth and marrying Anne out of duty, but that seems out of character to me. There are lots of women out there, I feel like Darcy would just try again. He's only twenty-eight, he can find someone else he loves! I really think that before he met Elizabeth at Pemberley, he was planning on doing just that. He thought it was over.

As for saving Anne from her mother, which I don't think is a real concern, there are other ways to do that if Darcy really thought it was a problem. He could invite Anne for a visit to Pemberley or his house in London. He could talk to his uncle, who would have more standing to talk to his sister about it. But it's unlikely he would see this as his duty or even as something he interfere with. Lady Catherine is Anne's mother, he is the nephew, it's not his place. Those hierarchies were very important in that era.

If Anne were pregnant or something... this one bothers me so much! It's SO OUT OF CHARACTER! Darcy cares about Pemberley, he would not want some random kid as his possible heir! If he has already rejected Anne as a suitable wife, why would he accept her now that she is "ruined"? If he really cares about Anne, he could find her a suitable husband with his money, power, and connections, he doesn't have to marry her himself. And again, this isn't his problem. This is Lady Catherine's responsibility.

(Not to mention how freaking misogynistic it is for JAFF to imply that Lady Catherine is so incompetent that Darcy has to help her run her estate. Women can run their own freaking estates!!!)

So to sum up: No, Darcy would not marry Anne, under any circumstances. Maybe if Lady Catherine kidnapped Georgiana and held her for ransom. (Don't write that, I beg of you)

#question response #thank you for the compliment!#jane austen fan fiction #JAFF #mr. darcy #anne de bough #lady catherine de bourgh #pride and prejudice

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inkbutterflyuniverse · 2 months

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Because I'm (again) reading too many Pride & Prejudice fanfics here some memes.

The colonel is always placing bets on when Darcy will propose, and he always lose.

In a lot of fanfictions Darcy is equal to himself and always outdone himself to make Elizabeth hates him more.

And as readers, it can be very frustrating sometimes.

When they are courting at Pemberley and Georgiana is like "I like her I want her as my sister" and Darcy is like "well in fact I already proposed to her but she has every reason to refuse because..."

And at end of his story, Georgiana is taken aback by his stupidity.

Just Lady Catherine sending an angry letter when learning that Darcy is marrying someone else than his daughter.

Anne, in a lot of fic, doesn't even care about this marriage and is happy when he's marrying Elizabeth.

And the best for the end, Caroline ruining her reputation by making a fuss when learning about Darcy and Elizabeth.

Bonus point for when it happens in the middle of a big event where all Town is here, and when everyone sees her losing her mind and signing her social death.

#pride and prejudice #pride and prejudice fanfiction #pride and prejudice memes #mr darcy #elizabeth bennet #caroline bingley #anne de bourgh #lady catherine de bourgh #colonel fitzwilliam

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sophsship · 1 year

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Pride And Prejudice

(2005)

!SPOILER WARNING!

Do not proceed if you have not seen the movie.

Hi.

So, I had my doubts in wanting to write about such a spectacular story, for the simple fact that I have not finished the book yet.

But this masterpiece is just too beautiful to not be talked about.

I mean, I know I definitely am not the first one talking about this movie version of the story, written by the lovely Jane Austen, that has inspired so many people.

Let’s start from the fact that I love this movie.

It is just so calming, especially when it comes to the background music.

(Dario Marianelli be serving some wholesome romantic vibes)

For me, watching “Pride And Prejudice” is like eating a hot pancake with blueberries.

The plot is just so wonderful and stable, as expected from a Jane Austen novel.

The characters are all very well-written and well-portrayed in this version.

But honestly, I have no idea where Elizabeth gets the courage to be such a savage.

If she ever comes around I have to ask her to let me borrow some of that courage.

She absolutely got it from Mr. Bennet, one of my favourite characters in the entire novel.

I want to have the calm that he keeps when Mrs. Bennet goes crazy.

The Bennet sisters have all different personalities, which gives “Little Women” vibes.

I love Jane’s and Charles’s relationship.

THEY ARE JUST SO CUTE.

I do not understand why Caroline is always such a b*tch.

Why can she not just be happy for her brother??

I just hate her.

Like Lady Catherine.

Man, that woman needs to come down a bit.

I mean, I feel sorry for Anne.

What a poor girl.

Then there is Charlotte, the sweet bestie we all want.

(Or at least, I would)

I hate the fact that she has to marry Mr. Collins.

He is a neat but damn.

I think she could have had someone else.

But that is just my opinion.

And now we come to the man everyone loves and adores.

Fitzwilliam f*cking Darcy is one of the best fictional men in the world and I do not know anyone who is against this statement.

Not mentioning the fact that him being more introverted makes his character so relatable.

He is always there for his sister, he is secretly generous and he arranges all the final events that lead him to gain the courage to show his true feelings to Elizabeth.

Their romance is just so beautiful.

(Jane Austen really is the queen of enemies to lovers).

The places in this movie are just perfect.

Pemberley is *chef’s kiss*.

Eventually, I would like to add that this story is one of the best ever and I absolutely understand how it managed to become so renowned everywhere around the world.

This kind of stories are what makes us dreamers when it comes to romance, and everyone loves them.

I hope that future generations will also learn to appreciate and respect this fascinating tale.

Thank you for reading.

Have a good day!!

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bookfanficsthoughts · 9 months

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On Mr. Darcy's Matchmaker

Just a brief overview of this novel I read. Not gonna lie, I wanted to show this to the world and that is why I have made this side tumble account.

Title: Mr. Darcy's Matchmaker

Author: Summer Hanford

Link:

Goodreads Link

Amazon Link

Premise and A Brief Review A Pride and Prejudice Variation which I think has one of the best portrayal of Anne de Borough and where we see how human is all of the cast. With the first chapters of the cast's younger years (Both of Darcy's side and Elizabeth's side), we have more insights of the characters as we can directly compare them to how they were before; which part have stayed the same, which part have changed for the better and which part have changed for the worst. Each character has their own flavor and the plot of Elizabeth and Darcy's will they or won't they have a different flow with the intervention of their "matchmaker" Anne de Borough.

Though their matchmaker, dont be mistaken that Anne is just a bridesmaid plot device. No, she has her own thoughts and characters and carefully takes into account the events that are happening and how she can weave her own happiness. She is not the kind of matchmaker who micromanages those she has her eyes on and isn't exactly obsessed with her charges. She has her own life to live after all. She is not afraid to confront Darcy on his prejudices but has also grown to be a confidant of sorts of Elizabeth! I love love love her in this novel!

Anyway in this novel, young Anne had the maturity to know that Wickham might take advantage of the young Mr. Darcy and has an inkling of his rakish (the unattractive and compromising young ladies kind of) ways. As such, she has the best eyes in all of the novel lol.

A cute blurbs on the cast of characters!

Anne (confined in the small area of Rosings gave her insight in things that matter in life and made her know when and how to present her true thoughts and intentions),

Darcy ( Mainly his struggles to let go of prejudices ingrained in him since he was young and we also get an inventive insight on the reason of the fallout between Darcy and Wickham and why he didn't relent. ),

Elizabeth (As she is reflecting on her rejection of Mr. Darcy's proposal, circumstances have her stay with near vicinity of the man she rejected and said man's well connected aunt who knows of the proposal and vehemently opposes it. I like how headstrong Lizzy is here as we see her cleverly confront the barbs spoken by Lady Catherine. )

Colonel Fitzwilliam (what it means to return to society after military and searching for better future)

Lady Catherine (more cunning and charm and deviousness),

Mrs. Bennett (having her own pride and love for her family and daughters)

Kitty (is more observant than people are led to believe and though not knowing of the future, knows how to appreciate the happiness she can afford to take. )

That is all! I hope you guys liked it and put this novel into your to-read list!

#Pride and Prejudice #Pride and Prejudice Fanfiction #Mr. Darcy #elizabeth bennet #anne de bourgh #Pride and Prejudice variations #JAFF #P&P Fanfic #Summer Hanford #Mr. Darcy's Matchmaker

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lothiriel84 · 1 year

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Reserve and Respectability

Aroace-spec!Darcy, as seen through the eyes of those close to him.

A Pride and Prejudice ficlet. Aroace spectrum!Darcy.

On the eve of Fitzwilliam’s twelfth birthday, Mr Darcy summoned his son and heir to his study, and proceeded to enlighten him on creation’s greatest mystery, the act of procreation; he then made sure to impress upon the boy how it was his duty as a gentleman to attend to his own needs without imposing on vulnerable females within his employment, or – heaven forbid – ruining the reputation of unmarried ladies of good breeding.

Young Master Darcy listened very attentively, as he always did, and promised to do his best to comply with his father’s instructions. Then he begged leave to go and visit little Georgiana in the nursery, and the entire conversation was soon forgotten.

“Oh, yes, George, like that,” the milkmaid murmured encouragingly, and he dipped his head lower to press his mouth to her creamy bosom. As the son of Mr Darcy’s steward, he had his pick of pretty young females willing to share their favours with him, and he was determined to enjoy every second of it.

His hand was creeping steadily up under her skirts, and he had very nearly reached his goal when a pointed cough came from somewhere behind them, and Ann – or Mary, or whatever her name was – promptly let out a horrified shriek, pushing him away and hastily covering herself up in a belated attempt at modesty.

“Miss Parker, allow me to escort you back to your father’s,” Fitzwilliam Darcy had stated calmly, turning a cold glare on his childhood friend. George had glared right back, adjusted his ruffled clothes, and stalked back through the woods.

Just because the proud scion of the Darcy line was uptight enough to shun female company, it didn’t mean he was entitled to ruin everyone else’s fun. It would do him a world of good if someone were to teach him a much needed lesson, one day.

“She’s the most handsome woman I have ever seen,” Captain Fitzwilliam whispered in his cousin’s ear, turning a discreet glance across the room. “Surely even you cannot disagree on that.”

Darcy stiffened at his side, and replied in a distinctly offended voice. “Even I? And what could you possibly mean by that, Richard?”

He sighed, and made a mental note to watch his tongue more closely. Relations or not, it wouldn’t do for him to unwittingly insult a man of Darcy’s station; still, he valued their friendship too highly to let the matter slide completely, and as the elder between the two of them, it was his duty to guide his younger cousin where he could.

“Only that you don’t appear to take much pleasure in female company, that’s all.”

His cousin had the good grace to blush, but he could see the way his shoulder hunched, almost defensively. “If you mean to imply your brother was correct in his assumptions, I will have you know – ”

“Not at all,” he cut in with some urgency, raising a placating hand for good measure. “My brother was way out of line last night, and I do apologise for the way he conducted himself. Rest assured our father took it upon himself to check his behaviour in this regard.”

“Thank you,” Darcy replied stiffly, and it was testament to the length of their acquaintance that Richard was able to detect a modicum of warmth carefully disguised under the sharpness of his tone.

“Mama will hear none of it, as you can probably imagine, but I do not think I wish to marry at all,” Anne sighed, shaking her head somewhat dejectedly. “I do not feel strong enough to – to subject myself to a husband’s attentions, let alone providing him with the heir he surely requires. And I believe you, of all people, might understand how I feel.”

Her cousin pressed his hand to her own, and offered her one of his rare smiles. “Even your mother has no power to make you marry against your will. For my part, I will never consent to her scheme of uniting our estates in such a way, and she will eventually have to accept that.”

“Thank you, William,” she smiled weakly, leaning back against the couch and reaching for her smelling salts. “I wish you every joy.”

Never in all her – admittedly short – life had Georgiana Darcy experienced such grief as during the ride back to Pemberley after the whole Ramsgate debacle. Her dearest, most beloved brother had been sitting beside her the whole time, and yet, it was as if the distance between the two of them had been progressively increasing with every mile.

At last, when she felt like she couldn’t bear it any longer, she dared to glance up, and was met with a look of such undisguised sadness on her brother’s face that she all but cried out. “William, words cannot express how ashamed I am of causing you any pain, and I will not blame you, should you wish to send me somewhere far away from your sight.”

Her brother looked momentarily startled, and quickly reached between them to gather her hands in his own. “It is I, and I alone, who ought to be ashamed of myself, as I deserve the worst censure for failing in my duty to protect you.”

“Do not say so! How could I expect you to, when I was foolish enough to conceal my true intentions from you, and forgot myself so entirely as to throw all propriety to the wind for the sake of a mere infatuation? It’s a wonder you’re still willing to recognise me as your sister, for I am sure you would never conduct yourself in such an indecorous manner.”

“No more of that. You are the only family I have left, and the one I love more dearly in this world. If our dear parents were still with us, I feel sure they would have done better by you, but alas, I fear I share neither Father’s sense nor Mother’s sensibility when it comes to – matters of the heart.”

“What I have done to be blessed with such a kind and honourable brother, I do not know,” Georgiana declared in between her tears. “But I thank God every day for bestowing such a generous gift upon me.”

“Oh, come on, Darcy, it was just the one kiss,” Charles Bingley protested most vehemently, as his friend closed the door to the study and stood before him with an air of cool disapproval.

“Yes, I am sure that is why Miss Harriet was half reclining on the chaise, with her stays untied and her petticoats all bunched up around her knees. You do realise, had anyone else walked in the way I did, you would have had no choice but to marry her, do you?”

Bingley paled a little at such an unappealing prospect – yes, Miss Harriet was charming, and he had been more than pleased with how willingly she had welcomed his attentions, but – marriage was for all one’s life, and he couldn’t see himself embarking upon such an endeavour anytime soon.

“I will have to be more careful in the future, that is clear,” he sighed, valiantly ignoring the blush that was undoubtedly colouring his cheeks at this very moment. “But I am only flesh and blood, after all, and I feel sure you understand – ”

“I do nothing of the sort,” Darcy replied haughtily, and for a moment there, Charles was left to wonder whether the rumours concerning his friend were, in fact, much closer to the mark than he ever had reason to suspect.

“Oh, Mr Darcy, if only you could bring yourself to dance, I feel sure you would put everyone else in the room to shame.”

If the man at her side all but winced, she put it down to the foul mood he had appeared to be in all week. Caroline Bingley felt nothing but optimistic when it came to her pursuit of Mr Darcy’s hand and heart – well, she could do without his heart, she thought, if only he could bring himself to overcome his natural reserve and acknowledge the mutual advantages of choosing her as new mistress of Pemberley – and the sooner she could get him to offer for her, the better.

“I thank you, Miss Bingley, but as I fear I would not do my partner justice in my present state, I shall not impose my poor company on any of the ladies present at this ball.”

Caroline sighed – making sure to put her décolletage to full advantage – and resigned herself to yet another disappointing evening.

“Fitzwilliam!” Elizabeth Darcy laughed giddily as her husband leaned down to press a heated kiss to the side of her neck. “You promised you would behave.”

“I’m sorry, my love, you look way too appealing in this dress. It ought not to be allowed.”

“And whose fault is that, I wonder?” she chided him, still laughing. “I seem to remember a certain gentleman having it made most especially, and sending for it all the way from London.”

“Mmm. Such a scoundrel,” Fitzwilliam murmured, his fingers tracing a deliberately teasing pattern along the underside of her breast. “Whoever he is, I should call him out for being so daring as to disrespect my wife like that.”

Elizabeth closed her eyes momentarily, but she knew she was fighting a losing battle, and when all was said and done, it was one defeat she was most willing to concede. “You ought to see to your wife, Sir, for I have reason to believe she will disport herself most wantonly, should you fail to check her.”

“Minx,” her husband said with the utmost delight, and proceeded to demonstrate just how much he appreciated the way her dress put her pleasing figure to the best of advantages.

Bennet Darcy frowned as his father calmly explained everything there was to know about the caring of sheep, and how – as his eldest son, and the heir to the estate – he was expected to be knowledgeable on such matters. At nine years of age, it had never come upon him to question where lambs came from, until they had happen to be riding along a field where a ram was busy seeing to the ewes, and his father had thought it prudent to talk his son through the entire process of lambing.

“Father?” he ventured to ask at length, as a most peculiar thought dawned upon him. “Is that how you got my new brother or sister into Mama’s stomach, as well?”

Ben was suddenly faced with the most incongruous sight of his father’s cheeks colouring to an alarming shade of pink. “I – that is, well – your mother will be much better at explaining than I am, I feel.”

“I will ask her, then,” he nodded, and spurred his pony back to a trot.

#Pride and Prejudice #Mr Darcy #Mr Darcy's father #George Wickham #Colonel Fitzwilliam #Anne de Bourgh #Georgiana Darcy #Charles Bingley #Caroline Bingley #Elizabeth Bennet #original child #Elizabeth/Darcy #aromantic spectrum #asexual spectrum #aroace spectrum headcanon #I wrote a thing #Pride and Aroace-spec (collection)

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whetstonefires · 4 months

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Oh yeah I recently had a moment of realization, which is that Lady Catherine's main underlying motive for pushing the Darcy/Anne marriage isn't actually her ideas about keeping property in the family etc, or her agreement with her late sister at all.

The number one reason she's so wedded to it is the same basic reason Mrs. Bennet is so eager to have Mr. Collins as a son-in-law.

Because while Rosings isn't entailed, which has allowed her to lady it over the demesne all this time on the strength of her daughter's status as heiress, property law is such that as soon as there's a man in the family--as soon as Anne weds--it will all belong to him.

And while she won't be forced to find other lodging or anything unless a truly dreadful groom winkles his way in, she'll no longer be the mistress of the place as she has been all this time, not even as much the mistress as she was before she was widowed, because that will be Anne's place now. She will be only the mother of the wife of the master of Rosings.

And there is not likely to be any great supply of fellows of sufficient distinction and lineage to meet her high standards, who will want Anne (whose main appeal is her property), who will also allow their mother-in-law to rule the roost.

Darcy is a known quantity, who doesn't especially want Rosings and can be relied upon to prioritize Pemberley. And he is very respectful of his honorable aunt. Lady Catherine makes it clear she believes her sway over him is considerably higher than it actually is, because he values his family so highly and hates a fuss, so she has always always gotten her way with him before.

If she could get Anne married to Darcy, then she could fulfill her maternal obligation to Anne, and her lineal obligations to the de Bourghs and the Fitzwilliams. Without having to give hardly anything up herself.

And it's really cool how it's set up like this! Because the fact that the system is rigged so a woman fulfilling her duties to family and society inherently obliterates any power base of her own is totally fucked up, and wanting to resist that is understandable and sympathetic.

But as is so often the case, the easiest way to resist or evade such compulsions and injustices is by finding a way to exploit other people, and gain your own security and independence by taking theirs away.

And so Lady Catherine, like Mrs. Bennet, is ultimately a tacky and appallingly selfish human being.

#hoc est meum #pride and prejudice #lady catherine de bourgh #gender #inheritance law #Austen engages so delicately with human motivation #with the drama that exists perfectly well in the world without having to contrive transgressive melodramas #when the normal systemic injustices of society operating as intended #are quite upsetting enough

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firawren · 2 months

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Austen brOTPs

I did polls for best and worst Austen sibling duos, so how about the non-sibling and non-romantic duos?

Again, please vote by book depiction, not movies.

In alphabetical order by last name for fairness, so read the whole list first before you vote!

I have a silly version of this poll with inanimate objects and concepts that you should vote in too!

#i think i'll do a run-off poll after this to find the ultimate austen duo out of all my duo polls #jane austen characters #jane austen #polls

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lands-of-fantasy · 1 year

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Pride and Prejudice

Classic and loose adaptions from 1940, 1967, 1980, 1995, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2012, 2016, 2018, 2019

The second of Jane Austen’s novels, first published in 1813, is the most often adapted, inspiring various different takes on it. The ones pictures above are detailed below:

Pride and Prejudice (1940 Film)

This black and white film departs from the original novel in some (or should I say many?) points

Written by Aldous Huxley and Jane Murfin, adapted from the stage adaptation by Helen Jerome; directed by Robert Z. Leonard

Starring Greer Garson as Elizabeth Bennet, Laurence Olivier as Mr. Fitzwilliam Darcy, Edward Ashley Cooper as George Wickham, Maureen O'Sullivan as Jane Bennet, Bruce Lester as Mr. Charles Bingley, Ann Rutherford as Lydia Bennet, Melville Cooper as Mr. William Collins, among others.

Pride and Prejudice (1967 Miniseries)

6 episodes x 24min. Black and White footage Written by Nemone Lethbridge, directed by Joan Craft

Starring Celia Bannerman as Elizabeth Bennet, Lewis Fiander as Mr. Fitzwilliam Darcy, Richard Hampton as George Wickham, Polly Adams as Jane Bennet, David Savile as Mr. Charles Bingley, Lucy Fleming as Lydia Bennet, Julian Curry as Mr. William Collins, among others.

Pride and Prejudice (1980 Miniseries)

5 episodes x 54 min Written by Fay Weldon, directed by Cyril Coke

Starring Elizabeth Garvie as Elizabeth Bennet, David Rintoul as Mr. Fitzwilliam Darcy, Peter Settelen as George Wickham, Sabina Franklyn as Jane Bennet, Osmund Bullock as Mr. Charles Bingley, Natalie Ogle as Lydia Bennet, Malcolm Rennie as Mr. William Collins, among others.

Pride and Prejudice (1995 Miniseries)

6 episodes x 54 min Written by Andrew Davies, directed by Simon Langton

Starring Jennifer Ehle as Elizabeth Bennet, Colin Firth as Mr. Fitzwilliam Darcy, Adrian Lukis as George Wickham, Susannah Harker as Jane Bennet, Crispin Bonham-Carter as Mr. Charles Bingley, Julia Sawalha as Lydia Bennet, David Bamber as Mr. William Collins, among others.

Pride and Prejudice (2003 Indie Film)

Loose adaption set in modern Utah, USA Written by Anne Black, Jason Faller, Katherine Swigert; directed by Andrew Black

Starring Kam Heskin as Elizabeth Bennet, Orlando Seale as Will Darcy, Henry Maguire as Jack Wickham, Lucila Sola as Jane Vasquez, Ben Gourley as Charles Bingley, Kelly Stables as Lydia Meryton, Hubbel Palmer as William Collins, among others.

Bride and Prejudice (2004 Film)

Bollywood-style Musical. Loose adaption set in modern India and England. Written by Paul Mayeda Berges, Gurinder Chadha; directed by Gurinder Chadha

Starring Aishwarya Rai as Lalita Bakshi (Elizabeth), Martin Henderson as William "Will" Darcy, Daniel Gillies as Johnny Wickham, Namrata Shirodkar as Jaya Bakshi (Jane), Naveen Andrews as Mr Balraj Uppal (Bingley), Peeya Rai Chowdhary as Lakhi Bakshi (Lydia), Nitin Ganatra as Kohli Saab (Collins), among others.

Pride and Prejudice (2005 Film)

Written by Deborah Moggach, directed by Joe Wright

Starring Keira Knightley as Elizabeth Bennet, Matthew Macfadyen as Mr. Fitzwilliam Darcy, Rupert Friend as George Wickham, Rosamund Pike as Jane Bennet, Simon Woods as Mr. Charles Bingley, Jena Malone as Lydia Bennet, Claudie Blakley as Charlotte Lucas, Tom Hollander as Mr. Collins, Donald Sutherland as Mr. Bennet, Judi Dench as Lady Catherine de Bourgh, among others.

The Lizzie Bennet Diaries (2012–13 Webseries)

160 episodes x 2-8 min, available on Youtube Loose adaption set in modern US, told in a vlog format

Created by Hank Green and Bernie Su, from Pemberley Digital

Starring Ashley Clements as Elizabeth Bennet, Daniel Vincent Gordh as William Darcy, Wes Aderhold as George Wickham, Laura Spencer as Jane Bennet, Christopher Sean as Bing Lee, Mary Kate Wiles as Lydia Bennet, Julia Cho as Charlotte Lu, Maxwell Glick as Ricky Collins, among others.

Lizzie’s videos amount to 100 episodes + 10 Q&A, but shorter series enrich the story by offering other characters’ perspectives, most notably Lydia’s (and also Georgiana’s). A playlist at Pemberley Digital’s Youtube channel features them all in order.

The series has also been adapted into a book, The Secret Diary of Lizzie Bennet (2014), and spawned a sequel novel, The Epic Adventures of Lydia Bennet (2015).

Pride and Prejudice and Zombies (2016 Film)

Loose adaption inspired by the 2009 novel of the same name by Seth Grahame-Smith, which adds zombies to Austen’s original story. The movie makes alterations from the zombie book as well.

Written and directed by Burr Steers

Starring Lily James as Elizabeth Bennet, Sam Riley as Colonel Fitzwilliam Darcy, Jack Huston as George Wickham, Bella Heathcote as Jane Bennet, Douglas Booth as Mr. Charles Bingley, Ellie Bamber as Lydia Bennet, Matt Smith as Parson William Collins, among others.

Orgulho e Paixão (Pride and Passion) (2018 Telenovela)

Brazilian telenovela in Brazilian-Portuguese

162 episodes x 30-40min (original version) Loose adaption set in 1910s São Paulo state, Brazil

Created by Marcos Bernstein, directed by Fred Mayrink

Starring Nathalia Dill as Elisabeta Benetido, Thiago Lacerda as Sr. Darcy Williamson, Pâmela Tomé as Jane Benedito, Maurício Destri as Camilo Bittencourt (Bingley), Bruna Giphao as Lídia Benedito, Bruno Gissoni as Diogo Uirapuru (Wickham/Willoughby), among others.

The story takes inspiration from all 6 of Austen’s major novels (plus Lady Susan), but mostly from Pride and Prejudice. Others stars include Chandelly Braz as Mariana Benedito (Marianne Dashwood) and Anajú Dorigon as Cecília Benedito (Catherine Morland).

Features 100 episodes in the International cut. The telenovela has been broadcast in other countries and languages (such as Spanish) but as far as I know, not in English.

Pride and Prejudice: Atlanta (2019 TV Film)

Loose adaption set in modern Atlanta, USA. All-black cast. Written by Tracy McMillan, directed by Rhonda Baraka

Starring Tiffany Hines as Elizabeth Bennet, Juan Antonio as Will Darcy, Raney Branch as Jane Bennet, Brad James as Charles Bingley, Reginae Carter as Lydia Bennet, Carl Anthony Payne as Rev. Collins, among others.

*****

Personal favorites: 2005, then 1995. But also: The Lizzie Bennet Diaries, Orgulho e Paixão

I also enjoyed Atlanta and, while it’s been a while since I’ve seen Bride and Prejudice, it’s got Indian musical numbers so c’mon, one gotta watch it.

Back to the closer adaptions, despite its age, 1980 is also good! 1940 is...very different, but fun in its own way.

In fact, while I find some of these versions weaker, I could find enjoyment in all of them - but maybe that’s cause I’m a sucker for P&P.

#pride and prejudice #elizabeth bennet #fitzwilliam darcy #pride and prejudice 2005 #pride and prejudice 95 #orgulho e paixão #period drama #the lizzie bennet diaries #jane austen adaptations #pride and prejudice atlanta #bride and prejudice #pride and prejudice and zombies #jane bennet #charles bingley #lydia bennet #mr darcy #mr bingley #I'll post about the other novels later #pep2005

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anghraine · 6 months

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5 AM blogging: another female character we know little about who lives rent-free in my head is ... well, there's even less of an excuse, since she comes from a canon full of distinctive female characters.

But I've been weirdly obsessed with Lady Anne Darcy née Fitzwilliam from Pride and Prejudice for years. My first P&P fic was about her and she haunts several of my other ones in different iterations. There are even more fanciful versions of her in my head that I simply refuse to write. Someone once commented that I clearly dislike her because some of the depictions are unfavorable and it was like ... oh no, these are just some of the many ways she rotates in my head.

I mean ... do I subscribe to the idealized maternal figure version of Lady Anne that P&P fandom has often gone for? No—she was basically a good person, but I think the implication is clear that she was the more flawed and less personable of Darcy's parents.

Do I think she was opposed to her sister in perspective generally or in particular about their children's future marriage? No, I don't think there's any reason to assume so. I imagine her as smarter and kinder than Lady Catherine (Wickham is the first person to mention Lady Anne and doesn't seem to have any particular grudge against her), but by no means opposed in character or opinions. Yet she remains extremely blorbo-shaped in my mind.

There are other scraps, like ... Lady Catherine's chilly remark about daughters not being of much consequence to their fathers. What exactly was the dynamic between the late earl and Lady Anne and Lady Catherine? :\

And both sisters married into quite similar sort of families (not peers but influential old money grand landowners), which inclines me to think the Fitzwilliams were after something there rather than that they were grand romances. Lady Catherine seized control of her life and everyone else's in her vicinity. What did Lady Anne do? Who knows?

These are scraps from a very few offhand statements. Lady Anne is barely mentioned in P&P and we can only piece together a few scarce hints some time after her death (we have no idea how much time) while nearly everyone who knew her and the late Mr Darcy praises her personable, benevolent, kindly husband to the skies. And what little we know suggests IMO that she was ... a messy figure, let's say.

But honestly, I find him annoying and Lady Anne immensely lovable. I don't know!

#practically perfect in every way mr darcy senior fucking up with wickham #while lady anne ... well my headcanon that darcy is very much her son will never be shaken #i just find the whole situation a delightful mess #but mostly lady anne herself is :)#anghraine babbles #anghraine's headcanons #austen blogging #austen fanwank #lady anne darcy #lady catherine de bourgh

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bethanydelleman · 1 year

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Okay totally crazy theory: Wickham disparages everyone that he dislikes during Ch 16. He mostly dislikes people for harming his own fortunes. We know he tried to marry Georgiana and was prevented so he smears her too.

But we don't know any specific slight from Lady Catherine or Anne de Bourgh and they are also attacked. What if Wickham tried to make a pass at Anne and got throw out on the street? Hilarious possible backstory, where Lady Catherine gets to exercise her disgusted speech muscles.

#JAFF #go ahead and steal my idea I'm doing nothing with it #wickham #jane austen #pride and prejudice #lady catherine #anne de bourgh #georgiana darcy

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iwouldservehim · 1 year

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Dawned on me it's obvious that who would marry Anne de Bourgh now is Colonel Fitzwilliam of course. He needs money and Lady Catherine wanted a family connection but Darcy is out of the way now.

#jane austen #pride and prejudice

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sailforvalinor · 1 month

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As this week is show week for Pride and Prejudice, here are some of the show's biggest hits:

This script is just 10x more chaotic in general--lots and lots of shouting and overlapping lines, screaming from Mrs Bennet, etc. This Lizzy is also 10x more awkward, which while I don't think is necessarily very true to her character, is pretty entertaining. To give you an example, the moment when she and Darcy meet is when she accidentally bumps into him and spills punch all over him during the ball.

This show uses bells for a lot of sound cues to signal different moments in all of the romantic relationships--for example, a bell rings when Jane first sees Bingley, and vice versa, and a bunch ring when Lizzy and Darcy stare at each other after she spills punch all over him. Because I'm also in the theatre production class this semester, I was involved in some of the production process, including the sound cues, and by far my favorite bell cue happens after the first ball, when Lizzy and Darcy are the last to leave the stage, and stare at each other over their shoulders before exiting, during which a boxing bell goes "DING DING DING." I advocated very hard for that boxing bell, lol.

Opening night, somebody kept wolf-whistling every time Darcy came on stage and it was so funny that I almost broke a couple of times, lol.

This version really goes ham on characterizing Bingley as a dog, to the point where it’s hilariously overt—he idly plays with a ball at Netherfield, at one point when he’s trying to send up a sick Jane her sixth round of tea, Darcy shouts at him to sit and stay, which Bingley does, and then Darcy hands him the ball and says "good boy"--but my favorite bit has to be that at one point, he starts bringing Jane a bunch of random objects to impress her. By the time the show itself rolled around, we'd settled on a ball, a pillow, a ball of yarn, and a shoe, but during rehearsals, he was just grabbing whatever objects he could find offstage, the best one being when he carried out an entire chair and put it on her lap.

Mr. Collins (played by our Bingley) is kind of made into a bit more of a creep in this version, which I can't say I was the biggest fan of? But I understand why--it's hard to make why Mr. Collins is so objectionable to Lizzy as a potential love interest is difficult to do in play format, and going over-the-top on the characterization is kind of the *thing* in this adaptation. He is still hilarious, my favorite part being during when he starts to propose:

Mr. Collins: *gets down on one knee*: "Elizabeth Marie Bennet--"

Lizzy: "--not...not my middle name."

When Lizzy goes to visit the Collinses, the scene opens with Mr. Collins singing "BING.....BONG......BING....." along to the church bells in the distance, and it has the audience in stitches.

Anne De Bourgh wears a bunch of veils, and speaks nearly exclusively in indecipherable sighs, groans, and mumbling.

The Darcy proposal scene absolutely slaps, and is the part that kept the most original dialogue. Staying true to the theme of knocking things over, though, Darcy backs Lizzy into a desk and she knocks over an inkwell, spilling ink all over Charlotte's carpet.

In the penultimate scene before Lizzy and Darcy's final romantic scene, Lady Catherine comes to confront Lizzy, Darcy brings Bingley so he can propose to Jane, and thus every single character ends up in the Bennet house, very very confused, and they just end up shouting names at each other: "'Lizzy?" 'Jane!' 'Mama?' "MR. BENNEEEET!!!' 'Fitzwilliam!' 'Darcy!' 'AUNT CATHERINE???'" It's just fantastic.

#also things learned from stage kissing: shaving cream tastes awful LOL

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misscrawfords · 9 months

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I'm reading Pride and Protest by Nikki Payne, a modern retelling of Pride and Prejudice and I'm struggling.

I actually find what Payne has done with the characters and setting really interesting and there are some touches I really like, especially turning Mary into Maurice - an "activist" who changes his activism regularly and lectures others on what they should be doing. (Any interpretation of Mary that isn't "misunderstood, shy, nerd girl who isn't-like-other-girls and is actually just like me, a misunderstood, shy, over-looked nerd girl" gets a positive vote from me.)

However, I really very much dislike her interpretation of Darcy (Dorsey) and Elizabeth (Liza)'s relationship and that is... kinda crucial!

It's waaaaaay over sexualised. Like, I get this is a romance book, but, like, I'm reading along enjoying the story and plot and then suddenly Dorsey is thinking about burying himself in Liza's breasts and I'm like "wooaah!" It's like it's impossible for the author to show them having feelings for each other without it being explicit and I find that out of place both with the source material and with the rest of the narrative.

Secondly, it is sexual... immediately. It commits the cardinal sin of saying "Darcy and Lizzy were hot for each other from the start and all the tension is ~ s e x u a l tension". The 2005 abomination does this too with the near kiss in the rain. And pretty much every single P&P inspired enemies-to-lovers narrative out there does it too. The problem is... this is a really, really inaccurate interpretation of the original book. Darcy is, admittedly, attracted to Elizabeth very quickly. Something that he manages to show not at all to anybody. Only Caroline Bingley, who is intensely interested in Darcy's romantic feelings, spots it. Later on, arch observer Charlotte and good friend Col Fitz also suspect something but by this point in Rosings Darcy has given into his feelings and is trying, albeit terribly, to court Elizabeth. Not that she notices. Darcy is completely able to conceal his sexual attraction to Elizabeth from everyone who isn't thinking about Darcy sexually. He is not quite so able to conceal his romantic interest later on. But crucially, at no point does Elizabeth notice a thing. She has LITERALLY NO IDEA. This is because Elizabeth has no concept of Darcy as a romantic prospect for her at all. She laughs at thinking what a good match he'd be for Anne de Bourgh, a probably sexless in appearance invalid. She doesn't hate him in a ~sexy~ way, she just really does not like him and does not consider him as a romantic option.

If Elizabeth is aware that Darcy has the hots for her, this changes the dynamic completely. If she is actually attracted to him in the first part of the story, that changes the dynamic completely. And both of these changes alter and potentially cheapen Elizabeth's character. If she is aware on some level that Darcy likes her and is interested in her, then she ends up looking like an idiot when the first proposal comes around. Or she ends up looking coy and like she is actually flirting with him. Yes, there is banter but Elizabeth is not consciously flirting or trying to attract him! Elizabeth spends the whole first part of the novel with a crush on Wickham. Austen is perfectly capable to showing to the audience without needing modern explicit language that a character has the hots for another character. Elizabeth fancies Wickham, not Darcy! As the meme goes, Darcy and Elizabeth are experiencing two very different kinds of tension! That's part of the comedy. And if Elizabeth is aware that she is attracted to Darcy, it just becomes a different story, and a less interesting one. Elizabeth becomes yet another romance novel heroine who likes the "bad boy" and tries to persuade herself not to, until the tension is sooooo strong and she ~snaps.

But one of the major points is that Elizabeth doesn't like bad boys! She falls for (well, crushes on) Wickham because she thinks he's good. She dislikes Darcy because she thinks he's bad. She only starts to consider Darcy positively when she understands and sees for herself the truth of his character. That is what she finds attractive, not him being a buttoned up jerk! "One has all the goodness, the other all the appearance of it." That is central to P&P's story and its message.

Unfortunately, in the aims of writing a "romance" novel, Pride and Protest gives us heaving busoms and erections and almost-kisses and therefore completely destroys my interest in Dorsey and Liza's relationship at the same time as well as finding it just a bit tasteless because it feels like there are two stories going on: an interesting exploration of how the context and characters of P&P would work in a highly politised and racially diverse modern USA - and a very generic romance novel story which doesn't do either Darcy and Elizabeth justice. A shame.

It does make me wonder about how to update Austen's novels in terms of sex. Because obviously one of the major changes between the 1810s and now is that having extra-marital sex is totally normal and people date and break up without social repercussions. So unless you are setting the update in a community where that is not the case, you've got to deal with sex being freely on offer. I guess there are different ways around it but I think if how you deal with sex means that the fundamental beats of the narrative and character development are changed, then something's gone wrong somehow. And I feel that Elizabeth's total obliviousness to Darcy having any positive feelings towards her at all until the moment he proposes to her is a crucial part of the plot and a source of unending humour.

#pride and prejudice #pride and protest #modern retelling #jane austen #fitzwilliam darcy #elizabeth bennet #darcy x elizabeth

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