#ゴルドー

[uten4]

Chaos UNICLR Bisexuality Masterpost

A couple people have expressed interest in me posting my thoughts on the subject of Chaos potentially being a character who is attracted to men. So I hope that this post will be food for thought, both for people who already believe wholeheartedly that he is gay, and for those who have never considered that idea before.

In short, I do believe that Chaos was written to be into men. I specifically read him as bisexual. So, I will get the brief but strong evidence that he's into women out of the way first.

Chaos' specific power, Umbral, is to make a manifestation out of a book, and the physical characteristics of the manifestation correspond to the topic or other feature of the book. A short time after gaining this power, he's internally monologuing about his experimentation with Umbral, and he says this.

This is a suspiciously specific denial, which he makes out of nowhere. It's easy to read this as an indication that he was imagining using his powers for this purpose, and therefore finds some female idols attractive.

[Edit: The line above was mistranslated. In the Japanese, Chaos straightforwardly admits that it crossed his mind. This doesn't effect the fact of him liking men, and I'm not editing the post beyond this clarification, but do with that fact what you will.]

It would have been creepy for Chaos to actually make a living manifestation of an idol's swimsuit pictures, but he didn't do that; that's not what he's poorly trying to conceal here. He's defensive about anyone-- the viewers? Himself?-- even thinking that such an action has crossed his mind. Upon some examination of other things he's said and done, it becomes evident that this defensiveness extends to the subject of men, too.

Let's take a look at the first line. It's suggesting something to us. Let's consider the situation of a standard female character saying something like, "I'm really interested in that girl. Uhhh, not like that though!" Our reaction as readers would likely be that unless she created the reason, there's no reason for anyone to think that she's interested in another girl like that, i.e. in a romantic or sexual way. So it is a clear indication that there is something up with the character's feelings on sexual orientation.

In the original Japanese for this first line, Chaos' "that Gordeau character intrigues me" is 「あのゴルドーって男が気になる。」 The phrase 気になる, similar to "interested in" in English, can be used to demonstrate romantic interest or even love confessions. (Here's one source for that, but several others are available on the internet.)

However, Chaos did not in fact actually say "it's not like that, though" or a similarly loaded line to correct himself. So on its own one could take this line as him being tsundere about Gordeau in a friend way.

But then we look at it in the context of his other line with Enkidu. This is an extremely similar format and joke-- Chaos says something that could be pretty innocuous, but then thinks he said it wrong/weirdly, and then rephrases it. We know that the Under Night writers are capable of having subtle running gags between different parts of the story (ex. the concept of rolling someone up in a blanket like sushi to capture them is brought up in Wagner, Merkava, and Seth's Arcade modes), so this is intentional. And what's the common denominator of these lines? It is only that Chaos says something which could be taken as an implied attraction between two men.

Therefore, if he keeps rephrasing such sentences, he thinks and worries about gayness... kind of a lot.

There are also instances of other characters associating Chaos with gayness. In the timeline, the earliest one is during Enkidu's Chronicles mode, wherein Hilda uses the word 恋女房 (koinyōbō, "one's dear wife") in reference to Chaos and Gordeau's relationship two times. Chaos is there for the first instance, and Hilda is responding to him explaining Gordeau's feelings. The second instance is after Chaos leaves the meeting to check up on Gordeau.

For the second one koinyōbō was not translated at all, so I put the Japanese for it. It is along the lines of "Yeah, yeah. Good grief, when it's about [his] beloved wife, [Chaos] sure is single-minded..."

In both cases, Hilda is pretty clearly making a joke out of the fact that Gordeau and Chaos are so close, and Chaos is so loyal to him.

The other time Chaos seemingly gets accused of being gay is during his Arcade mode. He comes across Yuzuriha, who seems to be a stranger to him, and she complains about a "belly-flashing pervert" who she just encountered. Chaos realizes she's talking about Gordeau, and questions her intensely on his whereabouts. After that, Yuzuriha says this--

So, she thinks he's gay. And she finds it creepy likely because she already thinks Gordeau is creepy... simply because Gordeau wasn't wearing a shirt, so she's jumping to pretty big conclusions in both cases.

From these examples we can see that the writers made a point to have characters joke about/accuse Chaos of being into Gordeau, and for Chaos to think about gayness himself, multiple times. Why would they do that? We can narrow it down to one or more of three potential reasons.

1. They think it's funny.

2. They're trying to make a point about this innocent straight guy being accused of gayness just for caring about his friend.

3. He IS gay, and the writers are nudging us in that direction.

Let's pick up this other interaction from Enki's Chronicles mode which could provide support to any of these points.

First Chaos avoids leaving the party with Enkidu. In the Japanese he says 「男２人で一緒に帰ろう」, "two men leaving together," which makes it even more clear that he feels odd and conflicted about leaving with another man specifically. This is another example of Chaos worrying about being perceived as gay or thinking about gay men.

Then Enkidu makes a reasonable point about how Chaos' worry is strange and contradictory. The translators seem to skip an entire line before "I guess I won't say anything...", which is 「端から見た際の問題であろうしな。」 If I were to take a stab at translating it, I'd say it is "I suppose it's a problem of how the situation is viewed from the outside." If I'm being generous, that provides a bit of support to option #2 for why the writers would do this, because Enkidu seems to be reluctantly identifying that perhaps two men would be mistaken as lovers by outsiders.

But I do ultimately think the answer is a combo of #1 and #3-- the writers think this is funny, and Chaos is attracted to men.

If the writers really wanted to have a theme with Chaos about not assuming guys are gay just because they're close to another guy, then when Chaos is alone and not recently accused of being gay, or when Chaos and Gordeau are alone, then nothing gay should happen. If under those conditions, gay thoughts or actions or words still appear, then they would be delegitimizing their own theme.

But gay thoughts do still seem to happen when Chaos is alone and not recently accused of being gay. For example, the "that Gordeau character intrigues me" line. That was from his Chronicles mode, which is his earliest appearance at any point on the timeline. It was before the viewers were shown any gay accusations being flung at him. If we aren't shown it or told it, then we have no reason to believe that Chaos has exterior reasons to worry about being associated with gayness... but that line still seems like it's him worrying about being gay.

Let's take a look at this other part from his Chronicles mode.

There is admittedly nothing overtly and undeniably romantic about these lines, but they have a romantic feel to them. This is after Gordeau asks Chaos to join Amnesia, and they throw the pros and cons of the arrangement back and forth for a while. Chaos doesn't think there are enough pros to join, but this is the main thought that pushes him to eventually say yes. He's joining for Gordeau.

And Chaos' reaction to his own feelings also makes perfect sense in the framework of how defensive we know him to be regarding gayness. He dismisses his feelings here, as ridiculous, laugh-worthy.

It is notable that the word he uses for "drawn by" is 惹かれる, which is often used in romantic or sexual contexts. It is also notable that this scene is not a joke.

And that's the evidence that Chaos thinks about gayness even before he's been accused. There are also gay occurrences between Gordeau and Chaos when they're alone.

Before I present those things, I want to clarify that I don't think Chaos and Gordeau are the bi male rep of the century. I am just presenting things as they are, even though some of it may be cringe-y, poorly written, or stereotypical. If you plan to make content about them please use critical thinking before just going along with whatever the UNIB writers did; for example you might want to refrain from applying the label of "wife" to either of these characters.

Anyway, at the beginning of Gordeau's Arcade mode, he has this interaction with Chaos.

When Gordeau jokes that he’s Chaos’ master, he uses the word 亭主 teishu, which can mean “master”, “household head”, “owner” of an establishment, or “husband.” “Master” is a fine translation, but this gag is repeated later and for that it's good to remember that it also means husband.

Later on, Gordeau refers to Chaos as his faithful servant, for helping him. We can see that the word he uses is 女房役 nyōbōyaku, "manservant", and happens to contain some of the same kanji as koinyōbō, the word Hilda used in reference to them several months prior. On its own, the 女房 nyōbō part just means "wife"... and Chaos uses that word in the next line.

When he argues against being Gordeau's servant, for some reason he shortens the word nyōbōyaku to nyōbō (the red-underlined portion here). I’m not sure whether this is a normal abbreviation of nyōbōyaku or if it is indeed very loaded, but the Japanese fanbase often acts in a way that makes me think it could be the latter. In which case he’s saying, “Who’s the wife? No… whose wife am I supposed to be?!”

Then there is the green-underlined portion. Chaos is saying "If you're talking about the nyōbōyaku in baseball, maybe you're correct in that case?"

In baseball, nyōbōyaku, the term Gordeau used for "servant", is also a term for the catcher. Why would Chaos say this? How is he like Gordeau's catcher in baseball?

The localization makes this common innuendo more obvious--

"Granted, I'm always on the receiving end, but still."

I won't assume the writers are dumb; I'm sure they knew what they were implying, and it's clear that the localizers did too. These characters are gay, Chaos is bisexual.

Here's the image that comes right after, by the way. They could not have picked more romantic lighting if they tried.

I suppose people could argue that the Arcade modes aren't canon so Gordeau and Chaos being together isn't canon even if you take the line that way, but I believe the plots are what's not canon, not the characterization. If the characterization in the Arcades isn't correct then what's the point of having a story in them at all, when it's one of the few story elements in the game? Not to mention that it's characterization which is reflected many, many times in many parts of the game, as I have detailed above. This is just one massive drop of confirmation for something about Chaos which has been demonstrated many times. Good for him!

#unib #under night in birth #uniclr #kei asuma #chaos unib #gordeau unib #op #sorry if my intro seems self-important or smth writing introductions has not gotten much easier since high school #chaos

[chiyoha1488]

「もう食べられないよ～」ってベタな寝言言ってたから起きた後よくよく話を聞いてみると、ごちそうが出る夢ではなくゴルドーになった夢だったらしい

[kijiatsume]

[yozlog]

新年

#星のカービィ #kirby #ゴルドー

[toxgo]

孤独狸固

"TVer"は革命であり、テレビを持ってい���い僕にとってはメシア的な存在。好きなバラエティ番組はほぼこのTVerから視聴しています。いつも大変お世話になっております(感謝) バラエティ以外にも期間限定の懐かしいドラマ再放送のカテゴリーをチェックするのですが、最近はキムタク特集にブチ当たってしまいました。その中で主人公の"久利生公平"が自分と同じ名前な所にシンパシーを感じているからなのか、何故か無性に観たくなる周期が定期的にやってくる“HERO”を全話鑑賞しました。"コウヘイ"と言えば忘れてはいけないのが、ガッキー主演の"ハナミズキ" この中で生田斗真演じた木内コウヘイの上京を見送る際の「コーヘーくん！」と叫ぶシーンがあったのですが、ここで日本中のコウヘイがザワザワしたとかしてないとか。ちなみに僕はザワつきました笑 ガッキー脱線してしまいましたが、HEROで1番好きなのはシリーズ屈指の豪華キャストだった2006年放送のスペシャルドラマです。

皆さんの"キムタクドラマ"と言えばなんですか？ 僕は2作品あります。まず１つ目は謎の残るラストシーンが印象的で、竹内まりやの“カムフラージュ”が流れるOPが実はストーリーのネタバレになっていた「眠れる森」　細かい詳細はうる覚えですが、OPだけは今もしっかりと覚えているくらいです。もう１つは月曜日の夜は街から人が消えるとも言われた伝説の月９こと「ロンバケ」は外せないですよね。言わずと知れたスーパーボールのシーンは実家が"セナマン"と同じ３階だった���でトライしてみましたが、あんなにキレイに跳ね返って来るはずもなく笑　終いにはマンションの住人にめちゃくちゃ怒られました。原作者の北川悦吏子さんが「続編はありません」とコメントされていましたが、SPドラマだけでもいいので令和の“南と瀬名”を見てみたいですね。

そして、"HERO"以上に見たくなる周期がやってくるのが"HUNTER×HUNTER" その昔"めちゃイケ"に極楽の山本が復帰した回の加藤浩次に怒られそうなくらい休載が"当たり前"になり過ぎて、ガチ勢達のYOUTUEB考察などでストーリーを自己流に完結させないといけないのではないのかと最近マジで思ってきている同作です。

天空闘技場編、幻影旅団編、G.I編など、どこを切り取っても面白いのですが、僕のお気に入りはシリーズ屈指の人気を誇る"キメラ＝アント" このシリーズは数多くの人気キャラや名シーンのオンパレード。でもやっぱり1番は「2度言わすな」が口癖な蟻の王"メルエム"と、東ゴルドー共和国の捕虜で、軍儀(朝鮮将棋と囲碁を合体させたボードゲーム)の世界チャンピオンの盲目の少女"コムギ"のストーリー。メルエム達は東ゴルドー共和国を支配し、食糧か兵隊の二択に分ける“人間選別”を始めるまでの暇つぶし程度に考えていた"軍儀" ところがコムギの存在がそうはさせませんでした。

キメラ＝アントの王メルエムに初めて"敗北"を教えたのがコムギでした。彼女との軍儀に熱中するメルエム。しかし一向に勝てません。あるときコムギの軍儀に懸ける思いが"命"に匹敵すること知ります。家族からは蔑ろにされながらも、大会に出て賞金を稼いで貧しい家族の稼ぎ頭になっていた彼女は、軍儀界の格言が「軍儀王、一度負ければただの人」 だと伝えます。つまり"負け＝死"であると。そんな彼女の持つ強さを知ったメルエムの中の"人に対する価値観"が少しずつ変化し、強さとは武力だけではないのでは？と悩み始めます。しかし、たかがボードゲーム。"武力"でコムギを殺してしまえばこの悩みは一発で解決するはずだと決意します。そしてコムギを匿っている部屋に向かうと、カラスに襲われながらも助けを呼ばないコムギが居ました。血だらけになっている彼女を見て、怪我の具合を真っ先に心配したメルエム。ついさっきまで殺す気満々だった自分の感情と、咄嗟に取った行動の違いに驚きを隠せません。この時に人に対する"思いやり"を初めて知ったのです。

ネテロがメルエムについて、「蟻と人の間で揺れている」と言っていた事を表していた名シーンでしたね。

ハンター会長のネテロはキルアのじいちゃんゼノ＝ゾルディックの念能力"龍星郡"の力を借り、メルエム達に奇襲を仕掛けます。そこで2人は驚愕します。キメラ＝アントは"人を食糧"としか思っていないはずだったのに、そこには奇襲の犠牲になってしまい、瀕死状態のコムギを抱き抱える王メルエムが居たのです。その光景を目の当たりにしたゼノの「話が随分違うじゃねェかよ」が全てを物語っていました。

ネテロとの決闘において、ネテロが自分の死を犠牲にした最後の攻撃"貧者の薔薇"の毒に犯されたメルエム。これにより自身の命は長くないと悟りました。そんなメルエムの最後の願いはたった一つ。それはコムギに会う事。そして一緒に軍儀を打つ事。その為に唯一、居場所を知っている潜伏していたハンターのパームこと人間に頭を下げてまで教えてほしいと願ったあの王メルエムを誰が想像できたでしょうか？ここには驚きよりも感動の方が増しました。

其方→貴様→お主→コムギと少しずつ呼び方が変わっていて、確実に蟻よりも人間に近づいていたメルエム。遂にコムギを見つけて迎えるラスト。自分の犯された毒は伝染すると伝えるメルエムでしたが、コムギもメルエムと同じ気持ちでした。そして最後まで一緒に軍儀を打ちたいと。

アニメと漫画でラストの描き方が少し異なる所がありましたがどちらも最高でした。アニメはその回のみの特別EDバージョンでしたし。しかし個人的には漫画版に一票です。ラストでメルエムの死に際が近づき、会話のみで描かれたページ。最後の最後の言葉がコムギの「おやすみなさい、メルエム」には涙腺崩壊でした。

メルエムに"様"はいらぬ！と言われてからの最後の最後にそれ持ってきたり、軍儀の一手一手がキメラ＝アント編の敵と味方の展開を表した内容になっていたりと、考察や解説を読んでも難解な伏線を仕掛けている冨樫先生はやっぱり化け物です。

アニメ版でメルエムの声優を努めたネガティヴ王子こと内山 昂輝さんは、憎めない悪役キャラをやらせたらピカ１だと思ってます。そして最後にもう一つ。このシリーズのEDテーマはゆずの"表裏一体"だったのですが、このイントロを劇中で入れて来るタイミングとナレーションのコンビネーションは神がかり過ぎていました。

NARI

#HERO #眠れる森 #ロングバケーション #HUNTER HUNTER #キメラアント #TOXGO

[cr-s01]

ok as i previously promised here's all of hyde's unused character-specific round start lines translated poorly by yours truly below the cut of course. theres a bunch (also im gonna skip putting the audio files somewhere for now but if anyone wants em i can just toss em into a .zip or gdrive folder or something. just send over an ask and ill grab em for ya)

- Versus Specific Characters - "Hyd00_7100" - リンネ！（対リンネ） Linne! "Hyd00_7101" - おっさん！（対ワレン、ゴルドー） Old man! (vs. Waldstein, Gordeau) "Hyd00_7102" - カーマイン！　（対カーマイン） Carmine! "Hyd00_7103" - マッカチン！（対カーマイン） Crayfish! (vs. Carmine) "Hyd00_7104" - 原田さん！（対オリエ） Harada-san! (vs. Orie) "Hyd00_7105" - ゴルドー！（対ゴルドー）　Gordeau! "Hyd00_7106" - メルカヴァ！（対メルカヴァ） Merkava! "Hyd00_7107" - 黒いの！（対メルカヴァ）　Black thing! (vs. Merkava) "Hyd00_7108" - バティスタ！（対バティスタ） Vatista! "Hyd00_7109" - 裸の！（対バティスタ） Naked person! (vs. Vatista) "Hyd00_7110" - セト！（対セト）　Seth! "Hyd00_7111" - ゆず姉(ねえ)！（対ユズリハ） Yuzu! (vs. Yuzuriha) "Hyd00_7112" - ユズリハさん！（対ユズリハ） Yuzuriha! "Hyd00_7113" - パラドクス！（対ヒルダ） Paradox! (vs. Hilda) "Hyd00_7114" - ヒルダ！（対ヒルダ） Hilda! "Hyd00_7115" - エルトナムさん！（対エルトナム）　Eltnum! "Hyd00_7116" - ナナセ！（対ナナセ） Nanase! "Hyd00_7117" - この厨房が！（対ナナセ） You troll! (vs. Nanase) \\ theres a lot to unpack in this line alone \\ "Hyd00_7118" - ケイアス！（対ケイアス） Chaos! "Hyd00_7119" - めがね！（対ケイアス） Four-eyes! (vs. Chaos) \\ he's literally just calling him "glasses" but i feel like "four-eyes" works better here \\

#unib #under night in birth #hackerman stuff

[merozart]

Caravan Stories character fanart 

the first - 戈德（ ゴルドー）

the second - 戈拉德（ ガラッド ）＆以賽雅（ イザイア ）

#inktober2018 #inktober #caravan stories #fanart

[s-gamer]

UNDER NIGHT IN BIRTH ExeLate. Gordeau vs Carmine [ゴルドーVSカーマイン]

Without recording made a cool reception with a scythe. Sorry could not repeat :-(

#under night in birth #gordeau #carmine #game #plants #gameplay #walkthrough #playthrough #let's play

[hunter-x-hunter-mobage]

王/対局への覚悟

      第一級隔離指定の危険生物、キメラアントの王。東ゴルドー共和国の宮殿をアジトとし、そこに暮らす国民を選別して、キメラアントの兵を作ろうとしている。空いた時間に将棋や囲碁のチャンピオンたちと娯楽を行っていたが、その中でも軍儀の世界王者であるコムギと接し、少しずつ心に変化が表れているようだが…

#Meruem #Chimera Ant #Hunter x Hunter #Hunter x Hunter mobage #Hunter x Hunter mobage cards #Hunter x Hunter All star battle #Hunter x Hunter Cards #HxH #Cards #SR

[uten4]

Thanks to this account I was able to learn what Chaos says in some of his in-battle lines that I was previously unsure about yayyy ^D^

「すまないね、コイツ行儀が悪くて。」

"Sumanai ne, koitsu gyougi ga warukute."

"Sorry. This guy has terrible manners."

(Winning a match)

「洒落にな���ないね…」

"Share ni naranai ne..."

something like "That's not funny..."

(Losing a match)

「やあゴルドー、こんなところで会うとはね。」

"Yaa Gorudō, konna tokoro de au towane."

something like "Hey, Gordeau. Didn't expect to see you here."

(Encounter with Gordeau)

「その手を放せ。」

"Sono te wo hanase."

"Hands off." or "Let go."

Lit. "Release that hand."

(Throw tech)

#if i found an account like this for BYAKUYA or Wagner or something I would be v happy #also kinda disappointed this one didn't have Kei's IWE line </3 i'm so curious about it #so far i think i can hear 万物の根源、普遍たる真理、我は解を求め、我は献饌す! #op #unib #chaos

[getrend]

ゴルドー投げてるだけのデデデ（ペンギン）、調子に乗りすぎている模様ｗｗｗｗｗ

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[rehkzero]

星のカービィ うごくジオラマアクリルスタンド 1 シーソー(カービィ&ワドルディ) ("Kirby's Dream Land" Moving Diorama Acrylic Stand 1 Seesaw (Kirby & Waddle Dee))

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[yozlog]

無敵の巣窟！

#星のカービィ #ゴルドー #キャプテンステッチ #kirby

[pirafudoria]

ゴルドーかっけ〜#アンダーナイトインヴァース #格ゲー #ゲーム好き #アークシステムワークス #ゴルドー #格闘ゲーム #おうちで過ごし隊 https://www.instagram.com/p/CKDsQzvBmAM/?igshid=1i24sym0lsnyv

#アンダーナイトインヴァース #格ゲー #ゲーム好き #アークシステムワークス #ゴルドー #格闘ゲーム #おうちで過ごし隊

[masashi-sugiura]

また出たいと思っている拳真館の空手大会には、またゴルドー氏はゲストで来るんだろうか•••。 #gerardgordeau

#gerardgordeau

[petapeta]

5:なりたのぶや氏「ゴルカヴァが優勝に絡んでこないで良かった…ｗ」 ソース:本人Twitter 発言日：2015年1月20日 元の発言：「ゴルカヴァ（＝ゴルドー、メルカヴァ）が優勝に絡んでこないで良かった…ｗ　って言うとまた荒れるかもなんですが、やっぱワレンとかユズリハとかが勝ってくれると嬉しいです。参加者の皆様良い試合をありがとうございましたm(_ _)m」 それに対して：「世評（要するに僕らが原因）である「ぶっ壊れ2強」みたいなのを覆して勝ってくれて嬉しいなーって話なんで、そんなネガティブにとらないでおいて頂ければと。」 さらに：「「言い方が悪い」「それをいちいち表に出すな」「そもそも成田死ね」ってのは全部理解しました。すいませんです；；」

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