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yebreed · 6 months
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Dragon Kings of the Four Seas
Renowned Shanghai painter’s Dai Dunbang (戴敦邦) 20th century illustration for the Chinese Ming dynasty classic “Journey to the West” (《西遊記》) attributed to Wu Cheng'en (吳承恩).
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the-monkey-ruler · 1 month
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Which translation/adaptation of JTTW is best for beginners? Besides maybe Dragon Ball (doubt it counts)
Heh yeah I mean it’s a great anime but I don’t think you would have a good Xiyouji experience per se. Usually, I see Dragon Ball used as a gateway for people to THEN read/watch Xiyouji content but like it doesn’t really have much Xiyouji plot wise even if the characters are homages.
I would say that if you want an ACCURATE Xiyouji experience then you can choose between three shows. That being the classic 1986 which is many people's first Xiyouji experience as the cast is so iconic you see these designs in dozens of movies and their influence in future performances. The second is more family-friendly but still one of the most charming and fairly accurate portrayals is the 1999 Xiyouji animation, I would say far more younger people's first piece of media and without a doubt the best Xiyouji animation series thus far personally. That last I would suggest is 2011 Xiyouji series which is one of the more newer shows and I would say I would that if you want more modern effects and humor than this might be a preferance to the 1986 version. They both have their own charm but just depends on what you are looking for!
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Now while these are the most accurate there are some Xiyouji media I would still recommend even if they take far more liberties.
This without a doubt being the 1996 tv series. This is portrayed as more of a drama but between the characters and the pure HEART AND LOVE that is in this show that you will be falling in love with the characters. It vaguely follows the Xiyouji monster of the weak formula but taking far more time to humanize each enemy and having our main cast overcome not only physical obstacles but also their own emotional obstacles as well. Fantastic show. Another is Chinese Odessey (please note this is a two part movie)! This does NOT follow the journey at all instead more of an introspective of the character Wukong. This is more of comedy but this is a cult classic as one of the first romance films with Wukong to show him as more of a complex hero which was a deviation from how he was portrayed in media for years as this point. This movie is silly but it is actually very heartfelt and makes you feel for these characters's plights. If you don't know Xiyouji I would say you will be confused, but you can fall in love with these characters anyway! Whil I can't suggest Dragon Ball I can suggest another Son Goku from My Son Goku! This is a Japanese production but the animation is so fluid and the characters are not only charming but there are some heart reaching scenes in this very cute art style! I would say give this a watch if you enjoy anime but also can appreciate angst even in a cute style.
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If you are looking for more just great Xiyouji movies that you can pop in and a fantastic one is the 2015 Hero is Back! This was the Wukong come back animation-wise since 1999 and a lot of people first Wukong in the big screens! Does take liberties story wise as we don't see Sha Wujing or any of the journey really, but the HEART and soul of Sun Wukong is there. Another great one is just watching the first and classic 1961 Havoc in Heaven! This was the staple of Wukong iconics for decades and even now you see this Wukong in commercials! This is just a beautiful art style and without a doubt charming and feel good vibes. This one is surprising but actually Nezha Reborn where Sun Wukong actually makes a cameo appearance, but I hear so many people got into Xiyouji just cause how much they love him. So while it's not Xiyouji I would say give it a watch if you are a die hard Sun Wukong fan.
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There is also Monkey King Reborn which while less known I still think is wonderfully popular and shows both great animation and also how all three characters of Wukong, Bajie, and Wujing interact in a movie. There is also Monkey King 2 which I know that usually I would say which the first movie but honestly the second movie is my personal fav. You don't miss much without watching the first as the second starts right at the begging of the journey and we are introduced to some of the best designs for these characters in my opinion. This last one is kinda of a hit-or-miss but Conquering the Demon! This one follows Sanzang as a demon hunter in a loosely based story of him finding his disciples, each more monstrous than the last in a dark-comedy! If you enjoy Stephen Chow films then you know what kind of humor you are going to get but it is new take on Xiyouji films in a unique but still entertaining manner! They really make you feel for Sanzang as a character and one of the best humanizations of him really as a man still learning about the world himself.
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There some other that are great but I would suggest more on a second watch or if you know the story more! Saiyuki / The Great Alakazam was the first eng dub saiyuki piece of media that came to the USA and still had a lasting influence with the beloved character Rinrin! There is also Monkey King 2009 that only looks at the story BEFORE the journey, adding so many elements to Wukong's childhood and his relationship with the Six Eared Macaque. I would also suggest the Monkey King Netflix Movie as while it is fast-paced it really makes you understand how dangerous but also how complex Sun Wukong is. I think it was a charming movie so give it a watch!. Last is Immortal Demon Slayer! This movie was based on a web novel that was extremely popular in the early 2000s which was based off Chinese Odessey funny enough! This is a movie I would suggest if you know Xiyouji already but it such a tragedy I have to share if you love angst.
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If anyone wants to share their what was their first Xiyouji or their favorite Xioyuji please let me know!
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chevngmi · 8 months
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inkwiththeeyes · 27 days
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Sun WuKong | outfit first draft (JTTW VisDev Project)
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Yeyehehehehehheheheheeh
I am sorry for the lack of post regarding JTTW. Things have been some what busy in my life and I am behind on some assignments for my animation class. So I don’t have they much time to draw personal projects as I used to. Anyways this is Sun WuKong before he gets humbled by the gods and gets his headband and red eyes. I don’t know if I want to render this or not because this was originally meant to just be something to revive stress for me, but them it evolved into this. I will also probably change this design a lot because I really don’t like some aspects of it.
I swear I will eventually be drawing more.
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ruibaozha · 3 months
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On Finding Sun Wukong Attractive, And Why You Should Not Feel Shame if You Do
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This is adapted from an ask, but I feel this is generalized knowledge that should be shared; bearing in mind Sun Wukong is a variety of non-human entities and daily qualifies as a yaoguai. But what is that?
Yaoguai is a very broad term to describe non-human entities in Chinese mythology and folklore, they themselves having four primary types whom are demon like or ghost like, or a non-human creature who has specific abilities. There is not always a negative connotation to be attached depending on which yaoguai is being discussed. For our dear Sun Wukong, the negative connotation drops completely.
Historically, numerous times in Chinese mythology and folklore, yaoguai have often disguised themselves as humans or otherwise to seduce humans. Zhu Bajie himself is “guilty” of this. Within JTTW a Lynx Demon is similarly “guilty” of this. What then of the white snake demon within the legend of The White Snake or the fox demoness Su Daji in FSYY?
Moreover, monkey demons within the Zaju portion of Chinese Opera are known sexual deviants, which is why Sun Wukong is or can be very perverted in these operas. Of course this isn’t the only image of Sun Wukong but it’s worth noting within the performing arts China has developed.
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The monkeys of Huagoushan watching Sūn Wùkōng disrupt the peace in Heaven, waging war on them and then going back only to wage ANOTHER war after stealing fruits, wine, and pills of immortality, pissing off Lǐ Jing, Nezha, and Erlang (don't forget the venerable Yù Huáng and pretty much the entirety of Heaven), getting cooked in the brazier, defeating the Heavenly Army yet again, and then graciously pissing on Buddha's hand:
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lortuk · 3 months
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lyselkatz · 5 months
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Cave of the Silken Web 盤絲洞
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b-y-2022 · 2 years
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金猴降妖(2018)
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teddy-bear-queen · 9 months
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Did I mention that I have a Sun Wukong design?? Cause I do. He’s a goofy goober, usually, but today I wanted to draw him kicking ASS.
This is probably my favourite part of the book so far, when Wukong exits the Brazier of Eight Trigrams. It’s such a small portion, but idk. Just the amount of rage he must have felt is something that I think about every now and then.
I RESEARCHED A LOT ON ARMOUR FOR THIS SO I REALLY HOPE ITS ACCURATE!! If not please tell me!!
This is the song I listened to while making it
Reblogs appreciated,, <3
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dpf-log · 5 months
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西遊記。小さい頃から大好きなお話。
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saykamachuhirik · 5 months
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2 day | stoking |
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the-monkey-ruler · 10 days
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Didn’t jttw’s publisher see the book’s success and wanted to replicate it with north, east, and south? I thought I read that somewhere but it’s been a while.
I can't say I know anything about that, or at least I haven't heard about it. If you find the link to where you read that I would love to see it! The story of Xiyouji was popular before Wu Cheng'en's version, hence why there were so many different versions around it, just that it was theorized that Wu Cheng'en was able to connect multiple of the one-off tales of them fighting demons and finally put it together in a coherent narrative. Wu Cheng'en's version started to become the 'canon' because of its popularity but that doesn't discredit the popularity or notoriety of previous Xiyouji media.
Xiyouji was based on The Story of How Tripitaka of the Great Tang Procures the Scriptures 大唐三藏取經詩話 which was released around the late-13th-century, giving a good few centuries for the story to rise in popularity before the Wu Chengen's 1592 cut. From there we do see other versions of the story, such as the early-Ming Journey to the West zaju play 西遊記雜劇 which was created between these productions.
If we want to see when the other novels were created it's just a matter of trying to put them in order.
Late-13th-century ~ The Story of How Tripitaka of the Great Tang Procures the Scriptures 大唐三藏取經詩話
Early-Ming ~ Journey to the West zaju play 西遊記雜劇
1522-1526 - Journey to the East 東遊記 by Wu Yuantai
1566 ~ Journey to the West: The Biography of Tang Sanzang 西游唐三藏出身传 by Yang Zhihe
1570s-1580s - Journey to the South 南遊記 by Yu Xiangdou
1592 - Journey to the West 西遊記 by Wu Cheng'en
1602 - Journey to the North 北遊記 by Yu Xiangdou
I think that considering how close the publication dates (even the estimates) that it would be fair that most of these pieces of media were either inspired by previous interpretations of Xiyouji and it took some time before Wu Cheng'en's version finally became popular enough to be considered the 'canon' as it is referred to as today. I can't say how fast the spread of literature was back in the 16th century but I assume it would be much slower by today's standards at least.
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chevngmi · 15 days
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inkwiththeeyes · 4 days
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Flower Fruit Mountain VisDev | JTTW VisDev Project
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JTTW VisDev Project
A plant that is on Flower Fruit mountain. I have decided to draw fragrant osmanthus because it is a plant that native to Asia and grows in China. I mostly selected this plan to be in Flower Fruit mountain because it is really pretty when it blooms. Also I am struggling with how I should even develop flower fruit mountain and what I should base it off. I know Mount Huaguo is a real place but it can be debatable if Flower Fruit mountain in JTTW is even in China. So basically I am struggling with what place I should even base Flower Fruit mountain off but we will see what I decide to do eventually.
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ruibaozha · 6 months
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Does Investiture of the Gods happen before or after Journey to the West? What about the Lotus lantern? Is there a chronological order to the stories? Which happens before or after?
Hello!
Technically Canonization of the Gods occurs before Journey to the West. Canonization itself is a heavily fantastical retelling of the collapse of the Shang Dynasty and the rise of the Zhou Dynasty, so figure around 1046BC, while Journey to the West is set in the seventh century - itself a fantastical retelling too.
However, it is extremely detrimental to assume the two are connected in any way, and this includes assuming the story of the Lotus Lantern to be related to the aforementioned stories. Canonization and Journey to the West were written down oral retellings by two very different people in two very different time periods. The ‘release’ of the Lotus Lantern was during the Tang Dynasty predating both Canonization and Journey to the West by a minimum of 500 years.
I understand the desire to want to make such connections though and have a well established timeline regarding the deities involved, but the fluidity of these stories and conflicting information within other external tales is a testament to the thousands of people who have listened to and retold such pieces of folklore.
Myself and @digitalagepulao were theorizing earlier about the sheer amount of story variation in China while Greek literature doesn’t seem to have many changes. Decidedly it’s a combination of sheer territorial expansion differences and Greek literature cases like the Iliad had actual lists of family names that needed to be maintained because any variation was seen as blasphemy; especially after the involvement of Christianity.
It is worth speculating on, especially for anyone involved deeply with the examination of various global mythologies and the many influences these belief systems were subject to. I hope this answer wasn’t too confusing, and thank you for asking!
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