I finally finished cyberpunk 2077 and a good chunk of it I've spent in a bad brain fog and not dealing with my health issues very well, so I didn't pay as close attention to some of the dialogue choices. I had no clue how important it was in the pistis sofia to tell Johnny if you would take a bullet for him or not. So I got V to tell him he would, and honestly it made sense for his mindset at the time.
(rambling under the read more because I have so many feelings)
But then V makes connections with more people and, most importantly, met Kerry, and that went out the window. Suddenly, he has friends, a found family, someone who loves him, even if it is still very early on. It gives V hope and a future to envision, a life worth living. But that also means going back on his word to Johnny.
It's interesting, the whole time in this playthrough, V and Johnny have never been on the same page about V's future. At first, Johnny wants V dead and V wants Johnny gone. Then, V learns how bad of a situation he's in, goes into a deep depression and is grieving for Jackie and now himself, and is just so tired. Maybe it would be better for Johnny to take his body. Yet Johnny is beginning to like V because despite what people have told V about Johnny, despite V seeing his memories and how shitty he could be first hand, he's still nice to him and cares about him. Johnny doesn't want that on his conscience, taking time and life from someone like that. As much as he is a gonk.
And then, in Mikoshi, Johnny still wants V to live, but damn is he hurt when V goes back on his word. Because even though he feels he doesn't deserve it, he wants a second chance. He doesn't want it necessarily at the expense of V's life, but V's already been soulkilled, and V had said he wanted Johnny to have his body. A man's word means a lot to Johnny and it feels like a betrayal when V goes back on his, no matter that Johnny's mind has been changed and that he wants V (well, V's construct, to be precise) to live out the rest of his life his way.
On the other hand, he understands that for once in his short but chaotic life, V found some happiness and he doesn't want to let that go so soon. Could you really blame him, jumping for a second chance like that even when the odds are against him? Johnny would be a hypocrite if he did.
It's like a dance between these two, both initially wanting their own lives and hating each other, to becoming closer than they'd been with anyone else and practically begging each other to take V's body and live. When he chooses himself at the very last minute, V breaks away from that dance and leaves Johnny wondering whatever happened to him wanting Johnny to have his second chance. It's the decision Johnny wanted him to make, the decision he had been hyping up this entire fucking time in hopes of changing V's mind, but damn does it feel like abandonment in its worst form now that V agrees with him.
Worst still, he doesn't hide his feelings. V knows Johnny well enough that he didn't have to be so obvious in his disappointment, but Johnny can't help it. But he won't say anything in his own defense either, doesn't want to put that extra amount of pain on the kid, because at the end of the day V doesn't deserve it. He didn't ask for any of this. That doesn't stop his disappointment from haunting V when he leaves Mikoshi.
It doesn't help that he feels he's disappointing Kerry in not spending enough time with him even though he's fighting to find a way to have more than 6 months with him. He's aware he might not make it back from the Crystal Palace and might be ruining their chance to have whatever time he has left to be with each other, but the chance to have a lifetime with the man he loves is impossible to ignore. He has to try or he'll hate himself for letting himself fade away.
"Never stop fighting," Johnny had said, and yet fighting for his life hurt the two most important people in his life.
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With the way the symbiote is portrayed with Mac I always just go you know what. I think it's fair for it to be enraged at the exact moment. Mac unfortunately got to be Venom while we were going through the Bitterly Divorced era. Eddie is also running around at this point acting like he's been 'cured' of a disease other than the cancer (which. Might be an interesting unintended allegory for catholic guilt and internalized homophobia) so they're both working through some feelings. But uh it definitely says some things that Mac has an entire section of his Wiki page dedicated to his personality and how various writers have characterized him
naw see there's a difference in my mind between like, going around killing and eating people in a fit of rage and hurt and betrayal, and going around killing and eating people because you're nothing more than like a rabid animal who has no control over your impulses, yknow? and i mean yeah i only read a handful of mac!venom comics but it definitely comes across as the latter instead of the former
this whole era in venom comics was just. so messy. im still mad about the eddie dumping symby thing because like it was so out of the blue? literally he decided to do it OFF SCREEN (unless im missing comics?) it just makes no sense and this whole era was during the whole ohhhh the symbiote is corrupting him from the inside ohhh spectacular spiderman vol 2 bullshit. and then ofc the whole animalistic depiction in thunderbolts 97. it was just a mess. it was a mess. i take canon during this era with a grain of salt, as in im more typically mad at the writers for how they depict things than the characters themselves, because the characters feel so strange and misaligned with how they were in comics published even just a few years before
as i always say i think the way it turned out could theoretically be interesting - in fact, i never thought of it the way you phrased it, as an allegory for internalized homophobia + catholic guilt (especially because it was literally watching the passion of christ that apparently made eddie dump the symbiote...??? which i also have issues with because i mean like - watching a fucking movie of all things is what changed your mind, dude? is your constitution THAT weak? do you have no backbone? #NotMyEddie) but just the way it was carried out feels less like an exploration of the characters and their flaws and more like the writers just like A. not knowing what the fuck theyre doing or B. purposefully twisting the narrative into something else, like instead of an exploration of internalized homophobia its just. Homophobia from the writers themselves
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Muse: Abigail Hobbs
The brains
People are not so much your forte. You are more at home with thoughts, ideas, hobbies, skills. As such, you probably have to learn how to work well with others -- but once you do, hey, it has its moments. While you are treasured for your ability to solve problems, people also have this unique love of novelty. When you break from your schedule, when you say something no one is expecting -- that’s novel. You are as curious and lovable as the subjects you study. You are family. this place is not the same without your witty comments and wry observations. You definitely feel more comfortable when someone needs a straightforward answer than a shoulder to cry on, but it’s not impossible to give both. Know that your family loves you for more than that, though, and will (usually) remember to respect your boundaries.
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