#(...túrin be like <<<)

[redbootsindoriath]

Apparently in my absence this post had its 1000-notes-iversary.

This time we get to see the culprit responsible for ruining our heroes' lives as well.

I've really missed you guys, by the way. I know I've said that already, but I'm serious. Once or twice this year I've been right on the brink of coming back but schedule stuff always keeps me from letting myself commit to that again, and that in turn has kept me from posting anything at all. But I've been in an unexpected drawing mood lately and so if I can get enough stuff to set up a queue we might pretend I'm back for a month or so sometime this year. Maybe. Hopefully. We'll see. No promises though. That's why I'm hiding this paragraph under the cut.

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[Beren:] "Uhhh...barkeep...I think he's had enough now..." [Tolkien:] "No, I don't think he has...!"

#beren #bilbo #frodo #tolkien #túrin #the man the myth the legends #beowulf except everybody is short #one shiny #three shinies #everyone deserved better except mîm #what's this a happy ending #my trash #is this actually funny or am i just tired #i'm sorry professor tolkien #/end classification tags #túrin keeps becoming a bigger and bigger guy in my drawings and at this rate he's going to be way taller and broader than he should be #canonically he was really tall and broad but i don't think the professor meant like THIS #at least it makes him really distinct i guess #gonna be sufficiently intimidating for the dagor dagorath #but in the meantime he's just making beren look like a schoolkid in this doodle #(and as i'm sitting here writing these tags i suddenly realize i forgot túrin's white hair streaks again) #(tsk tsk shame on me) #(and didn't it say somewhere that beren's hair also turned grey...? i can't remember where it said that though) #(0 for 2 i have failed all of us) #ANYWAY in my absence tumblr apparently changed formatting again which is not cool but whatever #it's nice to draw again #i've had art block for like 9 months straight #and suddenly this month i suddenly was able to write AND draw again as if i never stopped #i've had writer's block since maybe 2021 so that was the most surprising part #weirdest thing ever but i'm not mad about it

[anghraine]

I feel like Tolkien's insistence on so many of his female characters being overwhelmingly fantastically beautiful should bother me more than it does, but I can't really bring myself to care. Maybe it's the breathless descriptions of Túrin, Fëanor, Dior, etc, idk.

#the emphasis on how much túrin looks like his awesome hardcore super hot mother is like ... so much happening there #tolkien has a type and while he's faaaaar from gender-blind he does seem super into it regardless of gender #anghraine babbles #legendarium blogging #deep blogging #gender blogging

[outofangband]

Having (probably stupid) thoughts on Húrin and Aerin parallels (a rare post where it’s mostly in the tags because I’m unsure if it means anything yet)

#the children of húrin #it’s the captivity and continued defiance and being forced to watch the suffering of your kin #whether among them on the ground but still set apart from them (Aerin) #or chained from afar (Húrin) #and like #if you consider the Wanderings to be canon also the fires #I know the fire in the Wanderings is not exactly the same but like it could be! #also these parallels make me even more angry about Túrin’s treatment of Aerin #Aerin #Húrin #they have fired the hall

[bretwalda-lamnguin]

🐅 with any narn character

🐅(characterisation): Túrin is musically talented! From the Lay of the Children of Húrin:

“in weaving song he had a minstrel’s mastery, but mirth was not in it, for he mourned the misery of the men of Hithlum”

I feel like it’s a thing that goes ignored, Túrin isn’t just some walking disaster who can’t do anything right. He’s a very capable and talented, and at times can be very charismatic. But there’s so much to imagine with this in particular! Young Túrin singing for Thingol and Melian, or playing music for Nellas to dance to as they play at being Daeron (or even Beren) and Lúthien! Beleg first noticing how beautiful he’s become when he sings for him. There's also the Laer Cú Beleg!

On an angstier note (heh!) because I’m evil, Túrin singing Nienor songs from his childhood while she’s recovering. She can’t say she’s ever heard them before, yet their strange familiarity comforts her…

#Sorry for taking so long with this #it’s been a busy week for me! #túrin turambar #coh #i just love this little detail and feel it gets left out a lot of the time #let túrin leave the entire court of doriath sobbing with his magical voice! #he's lúthien's brother he should get to act like it sometimes

[sparkliebarbie]

they just aren’t writing dying in someones arms like this anymore

#middle earth tag #the silmarillion #silm #túrin turambar #gwindor #hey i love you but also fucking hate you and also can you go save my ex fiancé whos in love with you but youre not into her #also! watch out for your family curse adiós #and if they are writing dying in someones arms like this or better plz plz cc me im begging

[ettelenethelien]

It's almost easy to think of Beren and Turin and Tuor as belonging to the same generation, because theirs are the three Great Tales, but Beren is, in fact, part of the generation of Hurin and Huor (and he's literally Morwen's cousin of course). And upon further thought, it might be said that he paved the way for the other two in some ways. Turin certainly only gets to be raised in Doriath because of events described in the lay of Leithian and often seems to almost be in the shadow of his famous kinsman. Beren's story seems to be the motivation behind the ill-thought plan of waging solo guerilla warfare a teen Turin comes up with, and the memory of Beren definitely precedes him in Nargothrond. One could speculate that its the association with his cousin, his famous love story and the hope he brought that causes Finduilas to fall in love with Turin, and his experience of Nargothrond both stems from and undoes developments caused in the lay. We know far less about Tuor's stay in Gondolin, but it seems likely the knowledge of Beren would also influence how he was taken in there (and of course Tuor was also Beren's cousin once removed, though he's far more often connected with his Hadorian heritage)

In fact both the other Great Tales start right after that of Beren and Luthien ends - with the Nirnaeth, inspired by the successful theft of the Silmaril as the link in between.

#my post #mini essay #tbh I don't really like my voice here and I'm not sure if there was a point in writing it #but since it's already written... #// #tolkien #Silmarillion #tolkien meta #Beren #túrin #the Great Tales #I have to write a proper essay about Beren vs Turin one day because they're often contrasted in text but that's not for now

[helyannis]

"Stay with me!"

#tolkien #beleg #túrin #oh look it's the boys again #beleg's canonical pointy shoes #not his canonical shorts tho I just can't #urgh i'd like to be good at drawing people one day. I should practise more ...

[serregon]

Captains of Dor Cúarthol 🗡🏹🍃

#i spent forever on turin’s chainmail and i still don’t really like it rip #silmarillion #tolkien #beleg #túrin #turleg #cuarthol #my scribbles

[milkywaystarboy]

so when i worked at heb doin overnight stocking, i was allowed to wear earbuds for music, etc. i have so many music playlists that it's ridiculous but i really wanted some other things to listen to. consuming *new* media is often hard for me n so that crossed off all the podcasts i've ever considered listening to. in the end i subscribed to audible solely to get audio book versions of tolkien's works. i listened to children of húrin this way over the span of a few nights n i really jus have been on a revival of hyperfixation since then

anyways i've been thinkin about beleg n túrin so much n there's a few things i took away from my rereading this time, so i thought i'd share.

1) túrin is hella autistic. he jus is. maybe this isn't a new take to anyone else but it's new to me n as someone who's recently discovered that i'm autistic it really jus. makes So Much Sense (n also explains why the hell i was so "omg he is me" about túrin when i was 11 readin the silmarillion for the first time)

2) you ever think about anglachel? how melian warned beleg "this sword will not love the hand it serves and it will not be with you for long" (paraphrasing)? i've always operated under the assumption that the prevalent interpretation of those is that indeed anglachel hated beleg n betrayed him (death by its blade in túrin's hand). but i saw art on here recently that was like "anglachel doesn't have nice things to say to túrin" n it was jus the sword goin "i hate you hate you hate you" as túrin held it. n it made me do a real think.

beleg didn't really need a sword. he's known as the strongbow for a reason, right? but he thought he might need one in case he does more close up battle w orcs n stuff while on his hunt for túrin. he ends up pickin anglachel n then keeps it anyway despite melian's words; n if we go by melian's words n túrin's later interaction w it, then we can assume the sword is maybe a lil bit sentient. so maybe it appreciates that beleg kept it despite the warning. n maybe it sensed a person who would appreciate it in turn, for it was made of starmetal n beleg was one of the unbegotten.

anyways it's literally not mentioned at all after that until the Big Thing later. like. this supposedly malicious sword is w beleg for how long??? the entire time beleg serves túrin while among the outlaws, n never once is it mentioned that the sword brings about any mischief. literally nothin bad happens w the sword until it is tasked to cut túrin's bonds, n *then* it slips to cut him directly, n that leads to beleg's death. people read this as a betrayal of beleg, right, but i argue it's not. i think the sword sensed túrin's doom, n knew he would lead its master, beleg, to doom as well, n looked to hinder túrin w pain w/out considerin that túrin would wake n think beleg an orc n kill him.

i know it's kind of an ehhhh argument but my last point, hear me out: the sword confirms it only ever thought of beleg as its master. when túrin is gonna commit the die n asks the sword if it'll end him quickly, the sword answers "i will drink your blood so that i can forget the taste of the blood of my master, beleg, and of brandir unjustly slain" like??? the sword has loyalty AND a sense of justice? anglachel, even after bein reforged n renamed to gurthang, still thought of beleg as its master. i don't think it hated beleg - i think it hated túrin, the hand it served in the inexorable twists of doom that surrounded the son of húrin

anyways i'm on a kick again i might post more Hot Takes

#i'm sure people have said all this already #but fuck them i will ramble about my special interest all i want #also there's an added level of Oh... to consuming tolkien lit now bc like #we have a beleg fictive in our system #i dane will always have this connection to tolkien's works #but it's jus interesting. beleg was one of our first system mates #beleg cuthalion #túrin turambar #anglachel #the children of húrin

[irisseireth]

For the Silm asks: 6 (👀), 13, 20, please!

6. Best m/f ship?

You already know the answer to this one, but I feel like I'm cheating if I say Andreth/Aegnor, since they aren't even on the published silm, and THAT'S A TRAVESTY. I have so many thoughts and feelings on this pairing that it would require its own post (or blog lmao).

If we don't count them I'm not very emotionally invested in the canon ships of the Silmarillion, to be quite honest. I do like the interracial pairings though: Beren/Lúthien, Idril/Tuor. I am also quite intrigued by the dynamics of Finarfin/Eärwen.

A non canon m/f ship I quite enjoy is Elendil/Tar-Míriel, both as one-sided when they were young, or in an AU where Míriel survives. I also enjoy the dramatics of Tar-Míriel/Sauron, as in both pretend to like each other to further their political goals, but in truth absolutely detest each other.

13. Where in Middle-Earth would you most like to live?

Is it cheating if I say Númenor? Since it's not technically Middle Earth but... it is supposed to be paradise, a variety of climates and ecosystems, always near the sea, and at least until they started getting weird with the human sacrifices, a peaceful and prosperous place to live. Early Númenor would be my first choice.

The second option would obviously be the Shire, for similar reasons: peaceful and prosperous, apparently quite nice weather. Points deducted for being far from the sea.

Other places I'm curious about and would visit, but probably not live: Gondor (too close to Mordor), Arnor (while it existed), Lindon (Gil-Galad seemed like a pretty chill guy who would allow other races into his realm), Laketown (the Venice of Middle Earth!), Gondolin (if it were possible to get an exit visa lmao), and Nargothrond (what? I'm curious).

20. Funniest moment in the Silm?

It has to be the moment Beren tells Thingol he has a Silmaril in his hand, but it just happens that his hand is not here. Gotta love Beren, what a legend.

Silmarillion asks

#asks #verecunda #silmarillion asks #my phone corrected Lindon to London... no thanks been there done that #you knew the answer to the ship question c'mon #nobody ask me about Gil-Galad's parentage or you'll get an essay lol #elendil/míriel was a ship i did on my rp blog and i really liked the autumn romance vibe they had #túrin/nienor for the tragedy is delicious too

[wyllzel]

should i watch rop 😭 ive heard so many things... i don't want to see my silm faves in shambles 😭 but i also want to judge for myself...

#i heard celebrimbor is crusty #and maedhros doesnt have his LITERALLY iconic red hair THAT HE WAS NAMED AFTER #and elrond & galadriel's characterizations are questionable #like ive literally heard nothing good LOL #except the diverse casting 👌👌 #i stand by doriath being east asian 😢🙏 #missing him (túrin) #the indomitable human spirit etc etc #chelle.txt #i know some ppl were mad about the elves not having long hair too 😢 #at first i was like ehh that's just an aesthetic thing but like #its also a pretty big part of how tolkien wrote elvish culture #like lúthien chopping her hair off to save beren was a big moment bc elves traditionally keep their hair long #so like. :/ wigs are a thing #ok i give in i will maybe try the pilot lol #my 2nd age knowledge is rusty at best but

[redbootsindoriath]

Knowing Bilbo’s effect on elvenkings and elven lords (and elves in general), it’s probably just as well Thingol never made it to the Third Age.  He wouldn’t have stood a chance.

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[Thingol:] “...” [Bilbo:] “...” FIVE MINUTES LATER [Thingol:] “Everyone, meet Bilbo.  He is my own personal hobbit and anyone who so much as threatens to harm him shall die, no questions asked.  He has looted the royal storehouses twice so I’ve decided to make him my new foster son.”

#bilbo #thingol #the man the myth the legends #beowulf except everybody is short #three shinies #canon is great and all but what if #my trash #is this actually funny or am i just tired #i'm sorry professor tolkien #/end classification tags #move over túrin you've been replaced #by someone one tenth your height #with furry little rabbit feet and no evil curse #honestly tho thingol would have broken down in about thirty seconds i think #bilbo would rob him blind and thingol would just be like ''this is the best thing that's ever happened to me'' #''please come back and burglarize my hidden kingdom whenever you like'' #''bring your friends if you have any'' #...and then third age finrod would show up and be like ''HOLY VALAR YOU KNOW ABOUT HOBBITS TOO??''

[anghraine]

I love the Númenóreans for a lot of reasons (peak problematic faves!), but a big one is how much they love the Edain.

#anghraine babbles #legendarium blogging #'we also are daughters of the great' is about living up to the legacy of the edain #númenóreans in gondor still name their kids húrin or morwen #not only do they not forget what they come from they think it's fantastic #elrond pretty evidently can't think of greater praise than comparisons to beren and túrin #(yes he counts as númenórean for these purposes) #i'm really fond of edain and every time i see a thing about how the silm is about elves behaving badly #part of my mind is like 'uhhhh what about the edain' #beren and narn and akallabêth erasure!!! and plenty of other things too! #so it is nice that in-story my fave people are like 'the edain were important and awesome actually' #legendarium fanwank #team edain #team dúnedain

[outofangband]

Even before Thangorodrim, Húrin is shown images depicting the death or harm of his family. Some of these are framed as current reality, some of them framed as threats or future. Sometimes his memory of an illusion will be removed so he can be shown an altered version. Soon, he has no idea what to truly believe and mourns a hundred times for a hundred reasons, all before he will inevitably be chained to watch more of their suffering

#the silmarillion #húrin #the children of húrin #on that note I always wondered how extensively the curse covered his kin #like when Túrin was in Doriath especially could Húrin see Aerin? #in the iron hell

[bretwalda-lamnguin]

I have a horrible headcanon that Túrin and Nienor’s marriage in Brethil involved cutting each other’s hands and intermingling their blood. This parallels Túrin and Beleg’s “blent in battle the blood of their wounds” but also, it's already the same blood...

#túrin turambar #nienor níniel #twice beloved #coh #I have many thoughts on Túrin and weird rituals of intimacy #he and beleg definitely mixed plenty of their blood #intentionally and otherwise #but túrin and nienor also have their own brand of weird codependency #It's like a blood sibling oath but they're already blood siblings...

[hildorien]

If anyone wants to talk modern Arda hcs, please hit me up.

#tea with milk #i have many thoughts about the idea of modern human archaeologists would classify elvish skeletons #or how super scary sacred places are totally mined for materials in a few centuries bc other people needed them #or wondering how modern Arda would classify their own histories like with elves and so on #and oh! how I def think reborn as Túrin Turambar is a modern Arda YA trope